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Offline hiljo

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Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« on: June 13, 2022, 12:51:51 PM »
Hi!

Since a week or two my PM2.5 WH41 sensor gives strange results. Two weeks ago the PM2.5 sensor first gave a 1000PPM amount, and after that, it was completely 0, for about 2 weeks long. I first thought that it was a battery problem, so replaced them. I checked if the fan was spinning, is the red light came on when inserting the battery, but it all seems to be OK.

I removed the sensor body from the protective shell. There, I found some spider webs and cleaned that. I also blew the sensor itself. Afterwards it gave again some results (no more zeroes! Yay! :grin:).

The last days however, it gives again 1000PPM values, and later on the values are completely 0. My feeling is that the sensor itself is dirty or has some spiderwebs inside maybe.. I used the sensor cleaning thread (https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40596.0), but I also have the Plantower sensor, as depicted in the latest post:


Does anyone knows if there is a way to open that sensor to check it inside and clean it? Ecowitt support thought that it is a battery problem, but also on USB power these 1000PPM values occur. So my feeling is, that thats not the problem.

Thanks for your advice in advance.
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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2022, 04:24:48 AM »
You could try getting a air can (compressed air) to blow through the sensor.
When I have had super high readings it has always been dust and spider detritus that's been the cause.
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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2022, 10:42:49 AM »
Thanks, I tried that, with no success. I've contacted Ecowitt, but no solution so far. I'm a bit afraid to open the sensor like was described in the other topic. Don't wanna break it or loose warranty  :?

So if anyone has experience opening the Plantower sensor, that would be helpful.
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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2022, 11:50:26 AM »
Thanks, I tried that, with no success. I've contacted Ecowitt, but no solution so far. I'm a bit afraid to open the sensor like was described in the other topic. Don't wanna break it or loose warranty  :?

So if anyone has experience opening the Plantower sensor, that would be helpful.

Yeah as the OP of the other thread, this is different. I would, try searching on the Google :), using the part number on the side of the sensor. I have no doubt that there is a way to open the unit as this happens frequently, also the unit is used in other devices, not solely Ecowitt. If you have a value that is not changing, sounds like you might have a stubborn particle on the mirror or the light emitter. These are easy to see in the other model, no idea on this one.

Edit: It is a bit confusing that you have 1000 and 0 values, any values in between?  I mean i guess it could be software correction of some sort, but usually we haven't seen this, normally either higher than normal values, or in some cases , lower than normal . I am surprised Ecowitt has not come back with a better response.
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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2022, 03:48:20 PM »
So this evening i opened the Plantower sensor and guess what? Spider webs were inside. I cleaned it, and post a manual for future references.
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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2022, 03:52:37 PM »
To clean the WH41 PM2.5 Plantower sensor, use the following instructions:

1.  Remove the unit from the mounting, pinching the white tabs to make this happen
2.  Remove the batteries
3.  Pinch the black tabs on both sides, and gently slide the sensor away from the case. Be careful there is a wire connected to the solar cell, so do this gently and leave the wire intact. It has enough length to allow you work on the unit.
4.  Now you’ll see the metal casing of the sensor itself. You cannot take this out from the other part of the sensor. So you’ll have to mess around a bit to get the metal casing off.
5.  Gently pull out the white connector from the upper half part of the sensor. Do not clean it, it is made greasy to prevent any rust.
6.  The next part is the hardest: You can peel off the sticker with the brand and type information, or cut through it. Use a knife or a flat screw drawer to get under the metal outside of the sensor. The goal is to get under the metal casing and bend the metal up slightly to lift it off the black slide clips the metal is attached to. I used wooden toothpicks to keep it lifted.

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7.  Once you can get it off on three sides, the fourth side will release also. Take the metal casing off the sensor. There are 2 springs under the metal casing and they will jump out once you take it off. Don’t let them fall on the floor and get lost  #-o
8.  Take a very tiny Philips screwdriver (I used a jeweler's screwdriver) to remove the three screws.

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9.  Take off the plastic cover to see the sensor board
10.  Disconnect the fan plug by pulling the red-black-yellow wire until it dislodges from the back of the board

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11.  Take off the sensor board. Again, be careful of two other springs that are under the board.
12.  You will now be able to see the interior of the sensor. You can blow it out or use a cotton swab (q-tips) to clean the inside. E.g. remove some spider webs or some dust. Try to avoid water or high pressure compressor to not damage the inside.

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13.  On the other side of the sensor board, there is the lens and the receiver. If necessary, you can clean this using distilled water and a cotton swab. Take a small amount of distilled water and dip one end of a swab in. Carefully go over the lens of the sensor with the damp swab and the IR receiver. Use the other end of the swab to gently dry off the sensor and wait a few minutes for it to air dry. Make sure to not to touch the tips of the swab with your hands, as the oils from your hands could get on the swab and may affect the sensor. Also make sure no ‘hairs’ of the swab remain on the sensor. This can result in false readings.

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14.  Reverse procedure and assemble the unit.
A tip is to first plug in the white connector and insert batteries and check if the sensor is working correctly and measurements are normal, before you’ll put back the metal casing.

Happy cleaning!  \:D/
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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2022, 05:10:08 PM »
Great description.

I started pulling a WH43 down but stopped when I didn't have time to persist with the metal case.

I did manage to easily remove the complete Plantower unit though.
3 screws up from the bottom secured it. Bit of hot glue on the connector as well.
May also have removed the PCB to get at the 3 screws.

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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2022, 12:26:22 AM »
Yeah, tried the three screws too, but didn't want to remove the glue etc. So therefore I left it on the battery compartment.
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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2022, 10:16:00 AM »
The newest sensor looks like this.
Sensor details:
https://sensirion.com/products/catalog/SPS30/
Cleanining would not be easy:
https://www.mistywest.com/posts/teardown-sensirion-particle-matter-sensor/

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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2022, 10:50:42 AM »
Just so I'm clear, the  WH41 has had three sensor versions:  Honeywell, Plantower, Sensirion?
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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2022, 03:48:41 PM »
Missed this, but I do have a couple of SPS03's here.

Both are running on WeatherDuino AQM-III's.
Great Sensor, just a shame Ecowitt is only picking up PM2.5 & not the other values.

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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2023, 12:20:54 PM »
I just did a teardown of the Sensirion.  The pictures posted from the above link, specifically: https://www.mistywest.com/posts/teardown-sensirion-particle-matter-sensor/ were helpful, although they did not talk about the mini spring that does make contact with the metal box.

I will post pictures of the process a little later.
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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2024, 01:27:10 PM »
My Sensirion unit kept producing radical numbers at random times .. for a while I thought it was related to when it was being hit by direct sunlight.    I've cleaned it a few times but the problem persists.  It also tended to drain the batteries twice as fast as my other unit.  So, I purchased a new unit while Ecowitt was having a sale and also ordered a replacement sensor from Aliexpress for $25. (Shamefully,  I couldn't justify the price Amazon was charging for them.) 

I was hoping the new purchase from Ecowitt would yield a different sensor version (there are three), but alas it's another Sensirion.
No matter... I repaired the old unit with the replacement SPS30, and now have a new Ecowitt unit next to it to compare with it.  I'll see how the readings go over the next week.

I will mention that it does get a bit mental/OCD when you have multiple sensors of the same type and you have to ask yourself which is the real reading?    [tup]
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Re: Cleaning PM2.5 WH41 sensor?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2024, 02:16:47 PM »
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I will mention that it does get a bit mental/OCD when you have multiple sensors of the same type and you have to ask yourself which is the real reading?    [tup]

Really?, lol, like us having multiple WH40s, WS90s,  etc? ... naw just curiosity, and you learn stuff. I swear I don't have any identifiable mental condition. :) :)

I can't speak for others :)

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