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Offline Gyvate

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Hi everyone,
the Fine Offset clone model overview has been updated, some more useful info added.

See the change log at the end of the thread

it's worth passing by every now and then  8-)
have a look  :-)

https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0
« Last Edit: December 01, 2020, 03:42:56 PM by Gyvate »
Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
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Re: Fine Offset Clone Model numbers etc update
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2020, 02:25:24 AM »
This is an excellent tool. Thank you for all your work.

One quick question: Is there a reason that Ambient's clone of the WH2650 Wifi, the ObserverIP, is not listed?

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Re: Fine Offset Clone Model numbers etc update
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2020, 03:27:50 AM »
as far as I know, the Ambient ObserverIP is still the old, LAN based version which FineOffset also had in their portfolio.
That doesn't have the functionality of the of new WiFi version (Fine Offset WH2650, Froggit WH2600Pro).
This is also mentioned on the page in the respective footnote.
I guess you mean the WS-1550-IP (earlier WS-1400IP)
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https://ambientweather.com/amws1500.html

I didn't see the WiFi version at their web site. The term "wireless" refers here to the transmission between sensor and console and not to the communication of the console with the local network.

In the WiFi version, the LAN outlet is closed/covered and the LEDs on the front are differently labelled (Link old, WiFi new).
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« Last Edit: November 21, 2020, 03:50:07 AM by Gyvate »
Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
Ecowitt 5763, 5764; WU ISAARB3 (WH4000SE), ISAARB22 (HP2553); Weathercloud 3011399141, http://meshka.eu/meteo/template  -  http://meshka.eu/Weather34

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Re: Fine Offset Clone Model numbers etc update
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2020, 08:56:19 AM »
further update on table and footnotes - 21-Nov-2020
Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
Ecowitt 5763, 5764; WU ISAARB3 (WH4000SE), ISAARB22 (HP2553); Weathercloud 3011399141, http://meshka.eu/meteo/template  -  http://meshka.eu/Weather34

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Re: Fine Offset Clone Model numbers etc update
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2020, 11:12:35 AM »
Yes, what Gyvate said 100% true. The Ambient ObserverIP is not the same as the WH2650. Ethernet vs WiFi. But most importantly the firmware is completely different. The new WiFi version uses the same firmware as the GW1000, whereas the ObserverIP version will not show live data on the WS View app. This is because the ObserverIP version (Ethernet) uses the embedded webserver pages to configure and to see the live data. It isn't just because of it being Ambient firmware, as the same is true for the Aercus version of the ObserverIP which I believe they call a WeatherLogger.

The two may look the same at first glance...but when you inspect the LED lights which are named differently and you notice no Ethernet port on the back of the WH2650 you start to realize it is a different device altogether.
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Re: Fine Offset Clone Model numbers etc update
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2020, 11:16:45 AM »
Yes,
Thank you Gyvate for the great work on this new version of model/part chart.
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Re: Fine Offset Clone Model numbers etc update
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2020, 11:28:16 AM »
HP3500/HP3501 can not receive multiple sensors (like WH31)?


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Re: Fine Offset Clone Model numbers etc update
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2020, 01:08:23 PM »
@droiddk
with firmware > 1.6.2 it can receive several more extra sensors, but not all.
see updated matrix.
It can receive WS68, WS80, WH40, 1-8 WH31/WH31-EP, 1-4 WH41, 1-8 WH51, 1 WH57, 1 WH32.
It cannot receive WS80, WH45, WN34, WH55.
« Last Edit: November 22, 2020, 12:08:53 PM by Gyvate »
Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
Ecowitt 5763, 5764; WU ISAARB3 (WH4000SE), ISAARB22 (HP2553); Weathercloud 3011399141, http://meshka.eu/meteo/template  -  http://meshka.eu/Weather34

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Re: Fine Offset Clone Model numbers etc update
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2020, 06:28:38 PM »
In the WiFi version, the LAN outlet is closed/covered and the LEDs on the front are differently labelled (Link old, WiFi new).

I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for the clarification.

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The AW list needs updating.

https://ambientweather.com/amwepmpmwiin.html

 Ambient Weather PM25IN PM2.5 Wireless Indoor Particulate Monitor for OBSERVERIP, WS-2000 and WS-5000



https://ambientweather.com/amwh31la.html
   
 Ambient Weather WH31LA Leak Detector for Models WS-2000, WS-5000 Weather Stations


https://ambientweather.com/amwh31p.html

 Ambient Weather WH31P Water Proof Probe Sensor for WS-0265, WS-1550-IP, WS-2000, WS-3000, WS-5000 and ObserverIP Series Weather Stations
« Last Edit: November 22, 2020, 08:34:22 AM by platokidd »
2-WS-2000 | WS-2902A | GW1000 | AW MeteoBridge |
CWOP:FW5295 | :FW6969
WINDY:pws-1f06e86b4 |
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WU:KILPLATO3 | :KILROCKF100

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Thanks for the hint.
These buggers had these sensors in a different section ...   :roll:
matrix updated
Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
Ecowitt 5763, 5764; WU ISAARB3 (WH4000SE), ISAARB22 (HP2553); Weathercloud 3011399141, http://meshka.eu/meteo/template  -  http://meshka.eu/Weather34

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 :!: HP3500/HP3501 works with WH32.

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:!: HP3500/HP3501 works with WH32.
correct - it's not explicitly mentioned but you can tell from the picture - will update the matrix accordingly
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Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
Ecowitt 5763, 5764; WU ISAARB3 (WH4000SE), ISAARB22 (HP2553); Weathercloud 3011399141, http://meshka.eu/meteo/template  -  http://meshka.eu/Weather34

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added Weather Network support by the consoles to the table/matrix
Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
Ecowitt 5763, 5764; WU ISAARB3 (WH4000SE), ISAARB22 (HP2553); Weathercloud 3011399141, http://meshka.eu/meteo/template  -  http://meshka.eu/Weather34

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added a few more rebranded consoles, mainly from European resellers and updated the Weather Network info
see change log https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.msg419166#msg419166
Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
Ecowitt 5763, 5764; WU ISAARB3 (WH4000SE), ISAARB22 (HP2553); Weathercloud 3011399141, http://meshka.eu/meteo/template  -  http://meshka.eu/Weather34

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One more discovery: HP3500/3501 supports up to four WH55.

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correct - since firmware 1.6.9 - in the manual it still says "pending".
But I've updated the matrix.
Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
Ecowitt 5763, 5764; WU ISAARB3 (WH4000SE), ISAARB22 (HP2553); Weathercloud 3011399141, http://meshka.eu/meteo/template  -  http://meshka.eu/Weather34

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also added console sizes - screen diagonal or device size where displayless
so people can have a better idea what these pieces look like in real life
This info is often missing in the manuals.
Also added information pertaining to latest firmware versions
« Last Edit: November 25, 2020, 02:59:17 PM by Gyvate »
Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
Ecowitt 5763, 5764; WU ISAARB3 (WH4000SE), ISAARB22 (HP2553); Weathercloud 3011399141, http://meshka.eu/meteo/template  -  http://meshka.eu/Weather34

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Re: Fine Offset Clone Model numbers and related information - discussion thread
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2020, 03:54:55 PM »
Hi Everyone,
I know that the related thread "Fine Offset Clone Model numbers, compatibility matrix and other useful info" risks to become what we call in Germany a 'honey-sweating, egg-laying, wool-milk-pig' (in plain English probably a Swiss army knife or a jack of all trades device) ...

still having certain important information at a central place can be very helpful and can make our weather enthusiast life easier and provide orientation.

So if you feel that something is missing, some information is not correct or incomplete, feel free to post in this thread (as some of you already did before).
And there is a good chance that the missing or suggested information will find its way into the "Fine Offset Clone Model numbers, compatibility matrix and other useful info" thread.

We have chosen this approach to have the main information thread locked in order to remain clearly arranged while related discussions can be held here.  :grin: 8-).
Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
Ecowitt 5763, 5764; WU ISAARB3 (WH4000SE), ISAARB22 (HP2553); Weathercloud 3011399141, http://meshka.eu/meteo/template  -  http://meshka.eu/Weather34

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Re: Fine Offset Clone Model numbers and related information - discussion thread
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2020, 06:57:42 AM »
WiFi firmware update to V1.5.6 was updated in the firmware section.
Froggit WH4000SE (=Ecowitt 2320E) 1.5.6 / Froggit DP1500 1.6.3 (+ 2 x Ecowitt GW1000 1.6.3 test/backup) /  HP1000SE Pro (=Ecowitt HP2551) 1.5.6/1.6.9
Ecowitt WS80, WH40, (WH65), WH31 [T/H] (3), WH31-EP [T&H] (1), WH32 (1), WH32B [T/H/P] (1), WH57 [Lightning] (1), WH41 [PM2.5] (2), WH51 [SoilMoisture] (5)
Meteobridge Pro 5.0 2 Dec 2020 build 14124 FW 1.4 - Barani Meteoshield Pro - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder
Ecowitt 5763, 5764; WU ISAARB3 (WH4000SE), ISAARB22 (HP2553); Weathercloud 3011399141, http://meshka.eu/meteo/template  -  http://meshka.eu/Weather34

 

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