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Offline WSWeather

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All of the high-resolution Terminal Doppler Weather Radars appear to have "frozen" on December 17 and have not returned, showing "down for maintenance" now for over a month.  That's particularly unfortunate (for me at least) in that the O'Hare TDWR is practically in my backyard and is very useful.

Just another nail in the WU coffin...

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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2020, 03:43:36 PM »
This shows the blue blob heading for you just fine...Got the correct radar this time. #-o

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/index.php?type=LOT-N0Q-1-24

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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2020, 04:56:16 PM »
That's the NWS's NEXRAD WSR-88D (LOT) at Romeoville.  I'm talking about the FAA's TDWR terminal radars (ORD, MDW) which are no longer available via WU (see the drop-down list).

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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2020, 05:38:52 PM »
That's the NWS's NEXRAD WSR-88D (LOT) at Romeoville.  I'm talking about the FAA's TDWR terminal radars (ORD, MDW) which are no longer available via WU (see the drop-down list).

So you're saying that the weather portion/display of the ASR (airport surveillance radar) that's used by ATC was available online? If so, that would be incredibly surprising to me.
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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2020, 06:02:34 PM »
So you're saying that the weather portion/display of the ASR (airport surveillance radar) that's used by ATC was available online? If so, that would be incredibly surprising to me.
What I am saying is the local high definition terminal weather radar was available (see above).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_Doppler_Weather_Radar

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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2020, 06:06:19 PM »
Well I'll be...I had no idea such a thing existed. In my defense, it was implemented just as I retired. ;)
Thanks for the education!

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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2020, 07:53:46 PM »
I can shed some light on this subject, though it won't help until WU makes some changes.
 
The NWS issued this service change notice back in September. I'm linking to both the normal product and a cached version, because some NWS sites are having issues with some pages, including the SCN page.
 
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:FbM-gL_LtIAJ:https://www.weather.gov/media/notification/scn19-82tdwr_terminations.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
 
https://www.weather.gov/media/notification/scn19-82tdwr_terminations.pdf
 
Don't let the "tdwr_terminations" title scare you. It should really have been called "replacements".
 
Bottom line:  Some products have been upgraded to the higher resolution version of the same product. These have different naming conventions as well as different WMO Headers to receive them.
 
I sent WU an email quite some time ago. Of course, I never received anything more than the canned response, thanking me and assuring me they will look into my issue.
 

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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2020, 08:49:11 PM »
This shows the blue blob heading for you just fine...Got the correct radar this time. #-o

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/index.php?type=LOT-N0Q-1-24

LOL, what's the holdup still about converting from Flash to HTML5 video?  Staff have no idea how to do it?  If true, I expect yowindow to eventually just disappear and die.

Also the 2nd home page using modified AltDashboard 6.95 at http://stillwaterweather.com/wx/2ndhome.php

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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2020, 09:05:16 PM »
This shows the blue blob heading for you just fine...Got the correct radar this time. #-o

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/index.php?type=LOT-N0Q-1-24

LOL, what's the holdup still about converting from Flash to HTML5 video?  Staff have no idea how to do it?  If true, I expect yowindow to eventually just disappear and die.
Don't ask me...ask them. They say they're done with Flash at the end of this year. All I know is I really like their site.

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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2020, 11:39:25 PM »
LOL, what's the holdup still about converting from Flash to HTML5 video?  Staff have no idea how to do it?  If true, I expect yowindow to eventually just disappear and die.

That site is run as a part of a much larger curriculum of the College of DuPage, which is a community college.  My property taxes help pay for it. :)  Not everyone is as arrogant about HTML5 as you, and I'm sure they'll get to it when they need to.

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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2020, 02:49:50 PM »
LOL, what's the holdup still about converting from Flash to HTML5 video?  Staff have no idea how to do it?  If true, I expect yowindow to eventually just disappear and die.

That site is run as a part of a much larger curriculum of the College of DuPage, which is a community college.  My property taxes help pay for it. :)  Not everyone is as arrogant about HTML5 as you, and I'm sure they'll get to it when they need to.

It will be interesting to see if they really do by the end of the year.

Also the 2nd home page using modified AltDashboard 6.95 at http://stillwaterweather.com/wx/2ndhome.php

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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2020, 05:25:03 PM »
Well I'll be...I had no idea such a thing existed. In my defense, it was implemented just as I retired. ;)
Thanks for the education!
Really, you had no idea they existed?
That's surprising.
Time to turn in that weather nerd card. :-P

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Re: TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radar) appears to be gone for good
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2020, 05:52:12 PM »
Well I'll be...I had no idea such a thing existed. In my defense, it was implemented just as I retired. ;)
Thanks for the education!
Really, you had no idea they existed?
That's surprising.
Time to turn in that weather nerd card. :-P
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