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Offline CW2274

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #50 on: January 10, 2020, 04:39:00 PM »
The sensor appears to have some settings that users can control. As of now I have chose to leave them default as I received it.
Are you referring to the "Lightning icon appears when then Dew Point exceeds 70 oF, which signifies conditions may be possible for lightning storms to form in the area."?
Does it really do that?? T-storms can and do form at all various surface dew points, including below freezing.  :roll:

It is on page 21 of the ws2000 manual:

https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@site.ambientweatherstore.com/ssl/Manuals/WS-2000.pdf

Correction ...page 22.

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That icon has already cause many to think that a lightning sensor is built in. Now that a real lightning sensor exists I wonder how many more people will be confused.
Wow. That's unbelievable... I can see it now, "Yes, little Johnny, you can go outside and play....my screen says it's only a dew point of 69F".

"Yes your Honor, I'm suing Ambient for $100 million because little Johnny was struck and killed by lighting and my screen said the dew point was only 69F".

Think it can't happen? Besides...it's just plain stupid.

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #51 on: January 10, 2020, 04:53:05 PM »
70 degrees, humidity 82%, NWS has tornado watch #3 in my area until 10pm tonight Central, severe weather in my area is rated a 3 out of 5 for happening in the next few hours...

No lightning icon on my WS-2000.  I remember seeing that in the instructions.

Oops.  Guess I might have to rely on the arm outside the window method to determine if there is a hazard.  Never mind the ham radio and scanner equipment in front of me that will go off the moment a warning is issued.  Surely this line of storms off to the west heading this way cannot be severe, even though its a nice band of red.  My weather station has no lightning symbol so I'm perfectly safe!  Time to go fly a kite with a key on the string!

(/sarcasm)

On a serious note, of course the storms are timed to arrive about a half hour before I'm supposed to head to work.  That's just totally typical.

Edit:  Central not Eastern on the time.  Even with sarcasm, I feel the need to correct that.  I'm in North Central Texas in case anyone is wondering where this is happening.
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #52 on: January 10, 2020, 05:10:31 PM »
As we speak, folks ahead of the cold front have dews in the upper 50's, lower 60's with obviously t-storms and tornadoes to boot, some possible strong and long tracked.

I guess some oblivious Ambient owners will be planning a picnic... #-o

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #53 on: January 10, 2020, 10:25:08 PM »
So where did you guys order it from?  I don't see it on the ecowitt website...

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #54 on: January 10, 2020, 11:10:27 PM »
Ju got tu hav da connections mang.

It isn't out yet. This is pre production testing.
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #55 on: January 10, 2020, 11:24:29 PM »
Gotcha, gotcha.  I'll wait a year.  [tup]

Just kidding, hopefully its only a few months or so.  Probably won't be ready for this spring's T-Storm season in TX though.  But usually you can hear those coming like a freight train anyway.

Thanks for the info!
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #56 on: January 11, 2020, 03:41:46 AM »
Hi!

With reference to this post: https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=38193.msg396371#msg396371 - could a tester post an Ecowitt-output line with lightning-sensor data please?
Thank you!

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #57 on: January 11, 2020, 05:18:41 PM »
The sensor appears to have some settings that users can control. As of now I have chose to leave them default as I received it.
Are you referring to the "Lightning icon appears when then Dew Point exceeds 70 oF, which signifies conditions may be possible for lightning storms to form in the area."?
Does it really do that?? T-storms can and do form at all various surface dew points, including below freezing.  :roll:

It is on page 21 of the ws2000 manual:

https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@site.ambientweatherstore.com/ssl/Manuals/WS-2000.pdf

Correction ...page 22.

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That icon has already cause many to think that a lightning sensor is built in. Now that a real lightning sensor exists I wonder how many more people will be confused.

I had an older version of the manual. It looks like the page numbers changed when they added info about the air quality sensor.

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #58 on: January 15, 2020, 10:16:21 AM »
Amazon were giving me a tiny discount last night, so I thought i'd try this - £9.80 sterling

https://warehamwx.co.uk/lychee/view.php?p=15791013414596


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #59 on: January 15, 2020, 12:00:22 PM »
nice screen and perfect for the lightning detector
Is there a Amazon link you can share?

Currently thinking of trying it in the roof space as that should be a good location
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #60 on: January 15, 2020, 03:14:52 PM »
I wonder if the lightning icon appears if lightning is detected when the dew point is below 70°F. It’s rare, but sometimes we have lightning during intense snowstorms. (Edit: Never mind, I see that it doesn’t)

The majority of our lighting occurs in the summer though, once the dew point hits 75°F we often see spontaneous thunderstorms pop up along the sea breeze boundary. I hope this is available for purchase before then.
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #61 on: January 15, 2020, 03:42:38 PM »
nice screen and perfect for the lightning detector
Is there a Amazon link you can share?

Currently thinking of trying it in the roof space as that should be a good location

Amazing how prices can vary over night: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B017ILZF6C/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It was £12.80 last night (I had a £3 discount) but its up to £14.06.

I didn't feel like making something this time around, so I didn't mind paying for it.  :-)


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #62 on: January 16, 2020, 06:19:25 PM »
Are there any clever scripters here?

Now that I have managed to get the lightning info to show on my website, I was wondering if there was a way to make a text alert show up on my site when a lightning strike occurs? I don't know enough to be able to accomplish that, unfortunately.

At the moment, I get Cumulus MX to process the webtags and upload them via a php file every 30 seconds.

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$lightningdistance = "3.1";
$lightningtime = "13:05 - 16/01/2020";
$lightningstrikestoday = "1";

To show the data, i simply use:

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<?php if ($lightningstrikestoday == 0) { echo "None"; } else { echo "$lightningstrikestoday"; }?>
Obviously, the value will only change if the web page is refreshed. It'd be cool to somehow show "Lightning detected within the vicinity in the last 5 minutes" on the web page without a refresh of the whole page itself.

It's probably a tall order, though. :)


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #63 on: January 17, 2020, 03:48:03 AM »
Hello Tina

you can simply create a simple css notification it doesn't need any jquery or anything complicated

if the timestamp is numerical i.e 20200117110240 or can be converted to single numerical number without dots and dashes etc

$lightningtime ='20200117110240';// timestamp  year month day hour minutes seconds 2020 01 17 11 02 40

$lightningtimeago<600 = 15 minutes ago (600 seconds) you could set that to anything you wish

<div class=notifications> would be the appearance and positioning of the alerts
example
<?php if ($lightningtimeago == 0) { echo ""; } else if ($lightningtimeago<600){ echo "<div class='notifications'>".$lightningdistance."</div>; }?>

example of what appears on my site

if you need help let us know but don't expect anything overnight but do a search on google for css notifications and look for some ideas or inspiration how you would like it to appear here is a starter https://freshdesignweb.com/jquery-css-notification/

ps I like you new web design easy to read and informative

example of what appears on my site and disappears after 10 seconds and continues to appear every 2 minutes upto 15 minutes if no strikes within last 15 minutes nothing appears .

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #64 on: January 17, 2020, 07:04:03 AM »
Thank you Brian.

I'll have a look later when I am back at the computer.

Incidentally, I now have the lightning sensor showing on my consoles. An alarm gets triggered when lightning is detected, and an icon flashes.  \:D/

Edit: I think it should be possible to get $lightningtime to show a pure numerical string, because I am already formatting it during the processing of the wetag

ie;

$lightningtime = "<#LightningTime format="HH:mm:ss - dd/MM/yyyy">";

Would need to be(?):

$lightningtime = "<#LightningTime format="yyyyMMddHHmmss">";

Edit: There we go.. it returns 20200117115825
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #65 on: January 17, 2020, 07:28:53 AM »
OK folks, first look at the firmware V1.5.9 for the HP2551 that provides support for the WH57 lightning sensor
This is still Beta at the moment
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As you can see they have taken a bite out of the extra humidity circle in order to accommodate the data and moved the soil moisture reading left
{edit} - Whats changed is the roundel now displays the circle depending on humidity, so 50% humidity would show half a circle.
Its early days yet so I cant say how this will go.
We did discuss the lightning icon flash for 30 minutes after a strike to follow the standard lightning safety convention of 30-30 but not certain if that was adopted. { It does indeed flash for 30 minutes! }
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #66 on: January 17, 2020, 07:29:07 AM »
there we are good to go then , just drop,an email if you need help or get stuck its really not that complex if you have timestamp to work off so i can give you a simple php script to get timeago from the timestamp of last strike .. im around sunday morning if you need help . but have a go yourself if you can get itworking then you can understand it better if it goes a bit pete tong for whatever reason.

as del boy would say “he who dares wins” or your case “she who dares wins”



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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #67 on: January 17, 2020, 09:11:38 AM »
Thank you Brian.

I'll have a look later when I am back at the computer.

Incidentally, I now have the lightning sensor showing on my consoles. An alarm gets triggered when lightning is detected, and an icon flashes.  \:D/

Edit: I think it should be possible to get $lightningtime to show a pure numerical string, because I am already formatting it during the processing of the wetag

ie;

$lightningtime = "<#LightningTime format="HH:mm:ss - dd/MM/yyyy">";

Would need to be(?):

$lightningtime = "<#LightningTime format="yyyyMMddHHmmss">";

Edit: There we go.. it returns 20200117115825


You could use two variables, one formatted for the code, one for display.
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2020, 05:43:03 AM »
Will this work with the HP2551?

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #69 on: January 20, 2020, 05:37:26 PM »
Can you set an audible alarm on the console when a strike is detected?

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #70 on: January 24, 2020, 07:11:04 AM »
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #71 on: January 26, 2020, 06:59:29 AM »
Can you set an audible alarm on the console when a strike is detected?

An alarm beeps by default, nothing to turn on. It'll beep for quite some time unless you hit a button to stop it. The icon also flashes.


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #72 on: February 09, 2020, 09:17:23 PM »
Just thought i'd drop a post in..

I picked up my first genuine lightning strike just a moment ago. It came in at 19.3 miles away. I waited for the ATD lightning radar to update, and sure enough, it appeared on the map, so I know it's the real deal. I did a measurement check too, and it's pretty much on the ball.

I'm impressed as it is filtering out any background noise. I had that issue on the WeatherFlow station, I kept on getting phantom strikes and then it wouldn't pick up real ones.

All good so far! 😁


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #73 on: February 10, 2020, 10:12:45 AM »
13 Strikes from heavy showers passing by today.


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #74 on: February 10, 2020, 01:14:42 PM »
Jealous, still waiting for a good storm to produce lots of strikes!
Got just one from Storm Ciara yesterday which was a let down!
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