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Offline Shvedi

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Lightning detector
« on: November 17, 2019, 10:38:54 AM »
More than 6 months has past since this topic: http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=36581.0.
Are there any news from Ecowitt? I realize you can set alarm on ecowitt.net but in ecowitt.com can't buy lighting detector yet.

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2019, 11:03:13 AM »
Its very nearly ready.
I hope to start testing it soon, thunder and lightning permitting!
I'll post when there is more to reveal!
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2019, 11:31:57 AM »
Will this display on the Ecowitt dashboard?

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2019, 01:02:50 PM »
Its certainly my expectation that this will be so.
The GW-1000 will read it so I expect that the on-line dashboard ecowitt.net will show the data.
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2019, 09:05:54 PM »
Any news on the lightning detector?

Very cool gadget has me curious

How is the ws80 working?
Snowy rainy climate here.  Curious as freezing rain coated anemetr other day
Can this be used also with the non ultrasonic anemometer? Console and on ecowitt.net?
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2019, 05:12:28 AM »
No its still in development in Shenzen, though I don't think it will be too long before it goes out for wider testing.
Here is a snip from Ecowitt.net for one of the test units to wet your appetites
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As I mentioned before I promise I will share what I can when possible or Lucy will.

As for the WS80, its been great. We have seen some cold temperatures down to -5C but no issues or drops so far in performance.
The production version will be sold with a heated plate embedded which folks can connect up via long extension cables to power the heater. They are also looking at developing other alternatives for powering the heater plate. So in theory the ultrasonic anemometer will be suitable for all climates. My test unit has the heater embedded in the design but no cable and its not possible to retrofit so I have been watching the performance closely.

I meant to add that you can have both traditional anemometer and the ultra-sonic if you want, but you must choose on the console settings or GW1000 which array you want to take data from and upload etc
I have 1 Console and 2 GW1000 so I have the capability to mix and match what I want to monitor.
« Last Edit: December 11, 2019, 11:41:04 AM by Mandrake »
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Ecowitt WH51 (x4) Soil Moisture Sensor
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2020, 11:51:04 AM »
It's getting into the thunderstorm season here in Melbourne and was wondering if any of the Lightning units are available to purchase yet? I'd love to test this out during our summer. During Jan/Feb we tend to get quite a few thunderstorms.

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2020, 12:35:14 PM »
Unfortunately not.
Its very much still in development in the Lab.
We were expecting some prototypes out for field tests in December but this was delayed due to an issue identified.
Watch this space though as there will be posts when there is progress.
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Ecowitt WH51 (x4) Soil Moisture Sensor
Ecowitt WH41 PM2.5 AQM Sensor
Ecowitt WH31 (x8) Thermo/Hygro Sensor
Ecowitt WS80 Ultrasonic Anemometer (pre-prod test)
Ecowitt WH57 Lightning Sensor (pre-prod test)

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2020, 01:43:42 AM »
Can't wait, thanks for the update.

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2020, 05:29:45 AM »
I can confirm that the first prototype of the lightning sensor is ready, and I think to start the first tests in next days

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2020, 05:38:22 AM »
Great news, I'll certainly first in line when they start selling them to the public. We get lots of thunderstorms here in Melbourne.

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2020, 05:55:15 AM »
Just had news that the test devices are winging their way across the world so will let you all know when we have some more information.
I shall look forward to testing this...just hope I have some thunder storms soon to test with!
Its been rather a quiet winter season so far!
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Ecowitt GW1000 (Mk2) test environment driving CumulusMX on a RPi 3b
Ecowitt WH51 (x4) Soil Moisture Sensor
Ecowitt WH41 PM2.5 AQM Sensor
Ecowitt WH31 (x8) Thermo/Hygro Sensor
Ecowitt WS80 Ultrasonic Anemometer (pre-prod test)
Ecowitt WH57 Lightning Sensor (pre-prod test)

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2020, 08:25:50 AM »
Move to Southern Australia we've had quite a few in the last week alone.

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2020, 10:31:59 AM »
From what I have seen of the news you poor guys are being roasted alive at the moment.
Its one thing to have record temperatures but another when the place is alight all around as well.
Lightning must be last thing you want with all the bush tinder dry!
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Ecowitt WH51 (x4) Soil Moisture Sensor
Ecowitt WH41 PM2.5 AQM Sensor
Ecowitt WH31 (x8) Thermo/Hygro Sensor
Ecowitt WS80 Ultrasonic Anemometer (pre-prod test)
Ecowitt WH57 Lightning Sensor (pre-prod test)

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2020, 10:42:52 AM »
Yeah true, we've had lot's of dry lightning here in Victoria in the past week. Hopefully will improve over the next week.

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2020, 08:03:51 AM »
The first image of the final prototype, same cabinet oh wh31/32 sensor

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2020, 08:41:53 AM »
Some extra data on the lightning detector that I know you are all keen to see.

The Chipset is based on the AS3935
Here is the datasheet for those keen to understand the detail!
http://www.embeddedadventures.com/datasheets/AS3935_Datasheet_EN_v2.pdf

A summary of some of the chips features:
Lightning sensor warns of lightning storm activity within a radius of 40km
Distance estimation to the head of the storm down to 1km in 14 steps
Detects both cloud-to-ground and intra-cloud (cloud-to-cloud) flashes
Embedded man-made disturber rejection algorithm

Obviously this might vary slightly from the spec sheet of the lightning detector as made by Ecowitt
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Ecowitt WH51 (x4) Soil Moisture Sensor
Ecowitt WH41 PM2.5 AQM Sensor
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2020, 12:35:04 PM »
Another data sheet from Ecowitt on the AS3935
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I don't think it differs much from that I have already posted, but I have included it for completeness.
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Ecowitt WH51 (x4) Soil Moisture Sensor
Ecowitt WH41 PM2.5 AQM Sensor
Ecowitt WH31 (x8) Thermo/Hygro Sensor
Ecowitt WS80 Ultrasonic Anemometer (pre-prod test)
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2020, 09:56:40 PM »
The first image of the final prototype, same cabinet oh wh31/32 sensor

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Does the lightning symbol flash white, when lightning is detected? Is white the only cabinet color or is black an option?

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2020, 03:54:27 PM »
The first image of the final prototype, same cabinet oh wh31/32 sensor

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Does the lightning symbol flash white, when lightning is detected? Is white the only cabinet color or is black an option?

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No, but there is a red LED which long-flashes to indicate lightning, as well as a short flash to show it's sending the transmission.


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2020, 05:43:10 PM »
This is defiantly something I would be interested in!
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2020, 08:33:26 PM »
Is white the only cabinet color or is black an option?

Nothing a rattle can can't fix. I myself have painted some IP cameras from white to black. Just be sure to remove all electronics before painting. Then let it dry well to vent off all VOCs before reassembly.


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2020, 12:41:32 AM »
Do you reckon that all the Fine Offset models will get the lighting sensor at the same time as Ecowitt. For example will Tycon, Misol & Ambient lightning sensors come out at the same time?

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2020, 12:57:58 AM »
Do you reckon that all the Fine Offset models will get the lighting sensor at the same time as Ecowitt. For example will Tycon, Misol & Ambient lightning sensors come out at the same time?

Definitely not. Just going by past examples; PM2.5, soil, GW1000, WS80, WS68, WH40.
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2020, 04:57:12 AM »
Do you reckon that all the Fine Offset models will get the lighting sensor at the same time as Ecowitt. For example will Tycon, Misol & Ambient lightning sensors come out at the same time?

Its extremely unlikely that the other rebranding folks will get the new sensors immediately.
That said I doubt it will be a long delay, more than likely simply a delay to agree manufacture costs for these folks since they will be doing everything in bulk.
The key point though is since most of the rebranders (excepting AmbientWeather) just use the stock firmware there is no reason why you cannot mix and match as long as you use the correct frequency for your console or GW1000 and sensors.
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Ecowitt WH51 (x4) Soil Moisture Sensor
Ecowitt WH41 PM2.5 AQM Sensor
Ecowitt WH31 (x8) Thermo/Hygro Sensor
Ecowitt WS80 Ultrasonic Anemometer (pre-prod test)
Ecowitt WH57 Lightning Sensor (pre-prod test)

 

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