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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2019, 10:00:14 PM »
So, if I don't have a 'smart' cellphone, it's not gonna work for me?!?
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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2019, 03:39:32 AM »
So, if I don't have a 'smart' cellphone, it's not gonna work for me?!?

You don't need a smartphone to run WLL. You won't be able to see live (local data refreshes on what looks like a 2.5 second frequency on the WL app) updates on the local network, but that's the main limitation.

HOWEVER: The standard setup method uses a Bluetooth connection from a smartphone or tablet so you may not be able to get a new unit going unless you can beg/borrow/steal a smartphone for the initial set-up. (There is also a cabled network interface but not clear yet whether there's any way of doing the set-up this way - I haven't seen a manual yet but hopefully sometime this week.)
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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2019, 04:37:02 AM »
This smartphone/Bluetooth setup requirement has been proven a nightmare and failure with other technologies in recent times, rather a dumb idea this type of setup methology 

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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2019, 05:12:30 PM »
This smartphone/Bluetooth setup requirement has been proven a nightmare and failure with other technologies in recent times, rather a dumb idea this type of setup methology
Yep! Reminds me of my ISP asking "why?" I only gave them one STAR (there was no NO STAR box to check) for their VOIP take-over/transfer of my previous 'copper-wire based" landline telephone number; to which, my response was: "How do I call you (ISP) to report a computer or TV-media problem when the phone can't get THRU your 'failed' computer/media interface?" There was a L-O-N-G delay before the ISP caller responded.
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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2019, 07:00:09 PM »
Update for the WL Android app came out today. Few new improvements but it did say it supports WLL.

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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2019, 07:26:40 PM »
This smartphone/Bluetooth setup requirement has been proven a nightmare and failure with other technologies in recent times, rather a dumb idea this type of setup methology

My experience with configuring the WeatherFlow Hub via Bluetooth using a smartphone was the furthest thing from a nightmare, so I would not call configuring the WLL using the same methodology a dumb idea in the 21st century.

Does anyone know if Davis has published even a draft copy of the WLL local API yet?  Just curious to see how much work will be required to develop a new station driver.....
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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2019, 09:00:19 PM »
This smartphone/Bluetooth setup requirement has been proven a nightmare and failure with other technologies in recent times, rather a dumb idea this type of setup methology
Does anyone know if Davis has published even a draft copy of the WLL local API yet?  Just curious to see how much work will be required to develop a new station driver.....

No word on API yet. No ETA.

But here is an idea. Use APK Extractor to get the APK file to your computer. Then use some tools like Android SDK and dex2jar and JD-GUI  Android Eclipse or Studio and a lot of know how and you can basically decompile the app. A decompiled app means you get to see the source code. With the source code you can see how to talk to the WLL, basically revealing the API. Now you use the API and build your own Python script or WeeWx driver or whatever you program in to pull data. You can go through all that work or wait. What's the rush anyway, it's not like anyone has a WLL...yet. Hopefully the API will be out at the same time as the WLL.
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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2019, 03:19:00 AM »
Hopefully the API will be out at the same time as the WLL.

Probably not, I'm afraid, unless there's some change of plan at Davis. I'm expecting WLL to be available maybe in the next 2-3 weeks but API is scheduled for 'summer'. Plans can change of course  ;)
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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2019, 05:24:32 AM »
What's the rush anyway, it's not like anyone has a WLL...yet. Hopefully the API will be out at the same time as the WLL.

It seems that I have become the de-facto WeeWX UDP station driver developer.  If they are throwing out UDP broadcasts of station data on the local subnet, I need to budget to buy a WLL and set aside plenty of time to write another fork of my existing drivers to support it.....
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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2019, 06:10:06 AM »
What's the rush anyway, it's not like anyone has a WLL...yet. Hopefully the API will be out at the same time as the WLL.

It seems that I have become the de-facto WeeWX UDP station driver developer.  If they are throwing out UDP broadcasts of station or on the local subnet, I need to budget to buy a WLL and set aside plenty of time to write another fork of my existing drivers to support it.....


You should set up a Patreon or gofundme or PayPal for contributions. You shouldn't need to buy the hardware. Let people show you their appreciation by everyone chipping in a bit.
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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2019, 07:21:53 AM »
You should set up a Patreon or gofundme or PayPal for contributions. You shouldn't need to buy the hardware. Let people show you their appreciation by everyone chipping in a bit.

My philosophy is that 'tis better to give than to receive.  Quoting the boilerplate last paragraph of every readme file that I've ever shared on GitHub:

Code: [Select]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Finally:

This is the part where I am supposed to put in a PayPal link and ask for
donations if you find this code useful.  Since I am financially solvent (and
would starve to death if I had to make a living as a programmer), :-)  I would
like to encourage anyone reading this to make a small donation to a local
not-for-profit school, hospital, animal shelter, or other charity of your
choice who appreciates philanthropic support.

Honestly, I'm just hoping that if Davis is actually doing UDP broadcasts from the WLL (which is still not known) that they do it "right" using proper native JSON...and not some of the current vendor-specific things that others are using in their stations.....
WU Gold Stars for everyone! :lol:

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Re: New WeatherLink Live Hardware Coming Soon! on Davis Website
« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2019, 09:28:37 AM »
You should set up a Patreon or gofundme or PayPal for contributions. You shouldn't need to buy the hardware. Let people show you their appreciation by everyone chipping in a bit.

My philosophy is that 'tis better to give than to receive.  Quoting the boilerplate last paragraph of every readme file that I've ever shared on GitHub:

Code: [Select]
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Finally:

This is the part where I am supposed to put in a PayPal link and ask for
donations if you find this code useful.  Since I am financially solvent (and
would starve to death if I had to make a living as a programmer), :-)  I would
like to encourage anyone reading this to make a small donation to a local
not-for-profit school, hospital, animal shelter, or other charity of your
choice who appreciates philanthropic support.

Honestly, I'm just hoping that if Davis is actually doing UDP broadcasts from the WLL (which is still not known) that they do it "right" using proper native JSON...and not some of the current vendor-specific things that others are using in their stations.....

Hats off to you kind sir.
WS-2000 & WS-2902A | ObserverIP | WeatherBridge (Meteobridge) | Ecowitt GW1000
WU: KFLWINTE111  |  PWSweather: KFLWINTE111
CWOP: FW3708  |  AWEKAS: 14814
Windy: pws-f075acbe
Tele-Pole flag pole is here (not installed yet)