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Offline Wheelsandroads

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Hi all,

Iím a total newbie with a Vantage Pro 2 and Weatherlink IP. Got everything up and working today, and was pretty happy until I fired up the Weatherlink software. Honestly felt like Iíd time warped back to the 90s. So clunky and awful. My want/wish is to see all my data online both current, and historical, and then also to download it into excel on a regular basis to play around with it. The only options Iíve discovered so far are:

1/ Use the horrible Weatherlink software. Download to txt file every week (Iím on 5-min logging) and then convert to excel. Not ideal since I have to be on my PC every week (what if Iím sick, or donít have it with me?) plus the whole conversion process isnít ideal. And yeah, that 90s feeling  :-P

2/ Use Weatherlink.com. It seems ok and will extend my download intervals, but it looks like I have to pay every month (on top of everything $$$ I just bought) to get the graphing and download to csv options that I want.

Other options?

Would love to get some recommendations from the experts!

Nina
« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 05:15:27 PM by Wheelsandroads »

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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2018, 05:43:32 PM »
Can you say "...DOS-based..."? Sure you can!
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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2018, 05:48:34 PM »
Yes it is from 1995. It is needed for set up.

There are alternatives.

I am a fan of Weatherdisplay. You can set up your own site  with a template or your design. and use it to send info very fast.

Then we will all get into the discussion of VirtalVP and run both at once.
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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2018, 07:05:35 PM »
Didn't they just release a 2018 version? Called WL2  or something like that. There was a thread here somewhere about it.
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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2018, 07:09:08 PM »
Never mind it was just update on website called WeatherLink.Com 2.0
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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2018, 07:16:37 PM »
Actually, most software in 1995 was much better.  :)

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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 07:50:08 PM »
Lot's of stuff was made better in 80's & 90's. When most was being made at home not overseas. Not sure about software but its not unusual for appliances like refrigerators still chugging along from the early 80's, while now seems we are very lucky to get 10 years out of anything new.
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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2018, 10:12:43 PM »
I got a pretty good chuckle from your post mentioning 1995 software.  I have been running Davis hardware and software since August 1, 1995. I went with your option 1.  I have set up the WeatherLink software to save the 2 day archive a few times a day and I wrote some VBScript that is run by Windows scheduler every 15 minutes to read and parse the text file and store the new entries in a MySQL database. The script could be easily modified to transfer the data to an Excel file. I would be glad to share the scripts and settings with you, if you like.  Here is a link to my data lookup page. http://www.kd4pyr.net/dblookup.htm

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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2018, 11:05:27 PM »
If it works then there's nothing wrong with 1995 software or 1985 software for that matter. And the other thing that was very true before people got tangled up with over hyped smart phones and now Windows 10 is if it's not broke then not need to fix it.

WeatherLink (the software) will not apparently get an update as unfortunately there must not be many thinking people left at Davis who now think everybody lives in the cloud and everybody will now be controlled by the cloud clowns. 

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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2018, 02:25:40 AM »
Thank you all for your replies! Iím located in France so I didnít catch up until this AM.

By the way I have no issues with hardware from the 90ís, or 80ís, or 50ís or any year. In fact I have a microwave from late 80ís thatís still working and which I use everyday (although admittedly I do stand several feet away when it runs, just for good measure). But software from that era is not something I get nostalgic about. I did love Lotus 1-2-3 back in the day, but am very happy with the new version of Excel.

@chief-David - thanks for the tip on Weatherdisplay! I will check it out.

@KD4PYR - a Microsoft script...of course! Brilliant idea. I havenít written one in years, but yes Iíd love to check it out. Should I PM you?

Nina
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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2018, 03:25:00 AM »
You can open free account on WeatherLink.com 2.0
Using WheatherLink PC you can send data there.
If you have newest version of WL PC - February 28, 2018: WeatherLink for Windows Update, 6.0.4
You can download archive records  from WL2 from your free account.
There is a lot of options to download data from console and send it to the Internet, but only a few can care about archive records with export functions of those.

In my opinion for archive records WheaverLink PC is very good. It's store it properly, gives easy access etc.

My WiFiLogger can work as WL PC and export data to WL.com 2.0. Next using your own software, or WL PC 6.0.4 you can download archive records from WL 2.0.
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=34312.0

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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2018, 04:29:12 AM »
You can open free account on WeatherLink.com 2.0
Using WheatherLink PC you can send data there.
If you have newest version of WL PC - February 28, 2018: WeatherLink for Windows Update, 6.0.4
You can download archive records  from WL2 from your free account.

I did open a free account, but I did not see any option to download from the web without upgrading to PRO version?
The only option I saw was downloading via Weatherlink software on my PC, which can only do txt file?

Nina

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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2018, 04:46:00 AM »

The only option I saw was downloading via Weatherlink software on my PC, which can only do txt file?

Nina

Yes, You are right. Only txt. I recommend WL PC and WL 2.0 because it has best transmission system, for Excel is useless.
WiFiLogger has CSV file.

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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2018, 05:09:19 AM »
The WeatherLink Export records .txt file imports into excel fine

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Re: Weatherlink software seems like it’s from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2018, 07:33:41 AM »
I bought my original Weatherlink software back in 94. It came with a 5.25" floppy :shock:. Version 2.1, I never owned v1.0. I think it did exist. I am using 6.0.3 right now. Anyway, I only use it for downloading the Data from the Data-logger once every 15 days and to set the EST or DST time on my one older station (Vantage pro) not 2.

I'm not even sure why I do that as I use Cumulus 1.9.4 (1099) and am very happy with that. All of the data is stored there in the data directory at the archive interval for the Weatherlink Data-logger. That text data is easily importable into Excel.

For Me anyway, I'm not sure of what the advantage of pumping this info up to the Davis site is other than the fact the IP module can do it sans computer.

For safe keeping, I use Cobian Backup to do a daily backup of the Cumulus data to my google drive.
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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2018, 02:43:32 PM »
Other options?

There are 'many' pieces of software that you can host which look much better.   Hundreds and hundreds of people use weewx to name one solution.  Works great on a raspberry pi, so you're talking $50 max for the computer itself.

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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2018, 02:50:15 AM »
Thanks again everyone. Lots of good options here.

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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2018, 10:30:49 AM »
There are a quite a few alternatives.  I like Weatherdisplay.   It has a lot of options and a lot of information.   The author regularly updates with new features and fixes. He responds quickly to any question or request.  That is a huge plus .   

Cumulus is another,  and really if you do an internet search for this:    https://www.manula.com/manuals/pws/davis-kb/1/en/topic/third-party-software     for example
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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #18 on: Yesterday at 10:03:45 AM »
Davisnet announced earlier this year that they won't be doing any improvements on their software , they are going cloud .     You still need Weatherlink installed on your computer. you need it to set things if you have an Envoy rather than console.  Console you see what you have and can set it from the console,  Envoy, nope.
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Re: Weatherlink software seems like itís from 1995...alternatives?
« Reply #19 on: Yesterday at 04:29:58 PM »
Davisnet announced earlier this year that they won't be doing any improvements on their software , they are going cloud .     You still need Weatherlink installed on your computer. you need it to set things if you have an Envoy rather than console.  Console you see what you have and can set it from the console,  Envoy, nope.

Some of us oldfolks are content with using WeatherLink software to collect and archive data, and upload to our own sites (easily understood, non-fancy presentation), to Weather Underground, APRS, WeatherLink.com 2.0, etc.

http://www.thecoys.net/weather/Current_Vantage_Pro_Plus.htm

There are very few improvements that could be made to the existing WeatherLink software that might not break existing functions that are dependable and "just work".  Changes to make a resulting personal-website display look "non-1995" would actually be completely new additions.

That's something that Davis does not need to do - because, as pointed out in this topic, there are MANY alternatives to choose from.  Why should Davis duplicate the work that others have done?

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Davisnet announced earlier this year that they won't be doing any improvements on their software , they are going cloud .     You still need Weatherlink installed on your computer. you need it to set things if you have an Envoy rather than console.  Console you see what you have and can set it from the console,  Envoy, nope.

Some of us oldfolks are content with using WeatherLink software to collect and archive data, and upload to our own sites (easily understood, non-fancy presentation), to Weather Underground, APRS, WeatherLink.com 2.0, etc.

http://www.thecoys.net/weather/Current_Vantage_Pro_Plus.htm

There are very few improvements that could be made to the existing WeatherLink software that might not break existing functions that are dependable and "just work".  Changes to make a resulting personal-website display look "non-1995" would actually be completely new additions.

That's something that Davis does not need to do - because, as pointed out in this topic, there are MANY alternatives to choose from.  Why should Davis duplicate the work that others have done?
  and I would assume on a similar note, there are some people who live for summer because they love to be bitten by mosquitoes.   Maybe you are thrilled with the current Weatherlink 6.0.3 and that is fine, but there are a faction that want more
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want more .... What?

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  and I would assume on a similar note, there are some people who live for summer because they love to be bitten by mosquitoes.   Maybe you are thrilled with the current Weatherlink 6.0.3 and that is fine, but there are a faction that want more

Please notice that I used the word "content" when talking about WeatherLink software.  And please note that I didn't throw stones (or mosquitoes) at other software, nor at the many folks who want more modern appearance when posting to their own website.

Prodata lists 4 software alternatives.  You use Weatherdisplay.  Perhaps you would help this topic by describing Weatherdisplay benefits other than its much more modern appearance on a personal website.

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I use Weather Solution which looks even older tha Weatherlink. It truly looks like a dos based 1980ís piece of software. So why do I use it? It has the best monthly & annual reports, virtual clones of the NOAA reports. Also all pertinent info is on the screen & you can easily see it from across the room.  Also, itís reasonably easy to modify data if need be.