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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1100 on: October 19, 2019, 04:01:18 AM »
Important, KZZ52 stream will be down until better internet is installed.
You may have seen the kzz52 stream fluttering up and down.  This is due to an uncontroled issue in which other devices on the network are causing significant lag on the dsl.
I will bring the stream back once I have better internet.
Sorry for the interuption.

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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1101 on: December 01, 2019, 05:05:34 AM »
The airport ASOS KVTN reported an above-freezing temperature of 34 throughout the entire extended freezing rain event. (11/29/2019) Due to this fact along with this continuing to be an ongoing issue and not onetime event the NOAA Weather Radio broadcast will end from this website. I cannot with a clear conscience continue to propagate false information knowingly when conditions are actually hazardous for driving and flying. I hope those that used the broadcast can understand my concern and obligation to safety.
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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1102 on: December 01, 2019, 10:17:52 PM »
Hey randy, I might say still keep it streaming.  As honestly that's something they need to fix at kvtn directly, that's not so much connected with the nwr broadcast other than the hourly observations.  I deffinately get it cause you want the most accurate information given, but as we both know those asos systems glitch out quite a bit.
Sometimes that is, I'd try to keep it up and stuff and i'll if need be get a hodl of nws north platte tomorrow.

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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1103 on: December 01, 2019, 11:39:01 PM »
Hey randy, I might say still keep it streaming.  As honestly that's something they need to fix at kvtn directly, that's not so much connected with the nwr broadcast other than the hourly observations.  I deffinately get it cause you want the most accurate information given, but as we both know those asos systems glitch out quite a bit.
Sometimes that is, I'd try to keep it up and stuff and i'll if need be get a hodl of nws north platte tomorrow.

Hi, I would love to keep it going but this has been an ongoing issue. Locals here (radio station I had talks with) think it's a global warming BS issue and  I'm starting to think the same. My brother an air traffic controller, aeronautical engineer and pilot thinks the repercussion of altering critical airport instruments would be out of this world. I don't agree I'm seeing all kinds of weird government stuff going on now. Good luck with North Platte they have to know there is an issue and have done nothing. They visit my website all the time and read the blog. This has been going on for 3 years now.   
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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1104 on: December 02, 2019, 06:02:36 AM »
Well politics isn't really something I care to discuss on any forum especially not one relative to weather radio.
Providing a stream doesn't always mean you are providing false information.  They may not have fixed their computers or, kvtn may be having an issue with their awos system which people haven't bothered to report to them.
But I mean it's up to you if you are wanting to pull from the project, tbh, no one here can make something stick around.
However Tbh we have people who haven't been updating the sight lately as there are 2 new streams which haven't been acknowledged.  College station texasand Monroe Louisiana.
So like I hope people havne't just given up on the project completely.   I get technical issues I just wouldn't take down a stream for something that you nor anyone else has control over.  But then again that's just me.
My kzz52 stream is going to be back online once I get some repairs made to my outside antenna and my internet is fixed completely.
I found the culprit of one problem but the other is still needing to be fixed.
For starters, my internet crashes were the fact that our nextdoor neighbors thought it cute to get into the wifi network, someone apparently gave the password to them.  Secondly, some issues exist with our router.  It isn't getting all of the speed it could be getting.
Beyond that, everything is working.
I also need to get a dedicated streaming radio to stream kzz52 so that me using my sdr or using my other gear won't cause too many issues or using my amateur gear won't cause people to lose audio.
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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1105 on: December 02, 2019, 09:06:35 AM »
This issue appears to be more an FAA issue, not NWS... apparently the Miller Field ASOS is out of whack.
U.S. Department of Transportation Federal Aviation Administration 800 Independence Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20591 (866) tell-FAA ((866) 835-5322)

Randy is acting within his provence as a volunteer, and a person concerned with accuracy. Just as we will flag or temporarily block a stream because of quality, he opts because of Data.  Both sets of reasons are valid.  Bad data being most dangerous to the public. All the streams on NWROrg, whether originating from our servers \ direct from the provider \ or from a third party source, are relayed from volunteers, who operate within their own conscience. We hate losing Randy, as he is one of the Core Group of original providers and supporters of this project..  from day one, when when this community arose to mitigate the infamous Weather Undeerground debacle. And we respect his reasons.
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However Tbh we have people who haven't been updating the sight lately as there are 2 new streams which haven't been acknowledged.  College station texasand Monroe Louisiana.
Streams are normally added or modified with the reception of a form available on the website. We have no "Add Stream" form for College Station, however Monroe has been active for some time.  What are you referring to?  At one time we had a College Station stream, but it dropped off the list many months ago.. no transmissions...

Activity occurs in spurts and drips:
Yesterday we confirmed and added Ladner Wyoming.  Kirk used to be 'Canton OH" and re-located to Wyoming sometime ago... and back in operation in an area previously uncovered. Even as this is typed, a stream submission was received, and an alternate stream for Sacremento CA was just added to the station list, and an initial QRA summaary forwarded to the provider,, as we try to do with new streams.
...and we have a couple of 'new startup' attempts with some issues we're working with...

Qualifying, confirming, adding a station to the list is a multi-step process initially. You'd be surprised at the 'spam-type' submissions we receive once in awhile, which appear valid, but aren't.  Each has to be checked.
Checking all stream Quality points 'on audit' usually means a volunterr has to dedicate about a half day or so to browse through them... Third party, or direct streams, can be more tedious than those pointing to our WxRadio DynDns server, which is fairly quick and easy.  Also a provider using the proper form submission to inform us of issues, whatever, helps a lot

Like the Volunteer Providers, maintenece of the NWROrg site is performed by volunteers.. both the station lists, and the QRA servers.  The expensive IceCast Hosting is donated by Chris, another volunteer,  Like all volunteers, we have other facets in our lives.

We agree that one area of the NWROrg needs upgrading and correction... that's the hazards page... a very tedius and time consuming construction... doesn't need to be, but it's the best we could do at the time, and ite's virtually all manual input and construct. 

Like Randy, it's up to each provider to provide quality and accurate streams. When faced with issues such as Randy's source 'data', and the apparent inability or unwillingness of the originating WFO to resolve it... well... ?
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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1106 on: December 02, 2019, 10:25:44 AM »
Thanks for the help on this. I've always realized it was ASOS issue and not NWS. The frustrating part it never gets fixed and people know the ASOS has an issue.  Multiple complaints by the COOP here that also is the local radio.  Is the issue now being addressed where I start broadcasting again is my question?
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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1107 on: December 02, 2019, 11:12:25 AM »
Randy, Let me go here for the NWROrg team...
Will you PM me, and then we'll get on email, and lets explore what you all have already done.... see where and who we can bring some pressure on.  If they've got bad temp data, who knows what altimeter etc looks like. This will eventually kill some one.
Heh... I think if it were me I might have some 'fun with it, using MiXX or something, and insert a 'NORTH PLATTE WFO CONTINUSE TO BROADCAST DANGEROUS DATA FROM THE ASOS STATION AT MILLER FIELD,.  PLEASE DISREGARD THAT PORTION OF THIS STREAM.

OR SOMETHING EQUALLY EVIL...
...sorry about the all caps.. in a huyrry and have a wild pinkie...

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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1108 on: December 02, 2019, 12:19:54 PM »
Hey Still stream valentine cause tbh I make recordings of the nwr broadcasts and I haven't done an up to date one of the crrent cycle.  U know I wish you had an sdr on the side randy cause while you are live streaming I could always check out the ham activity in your area.  Send me an email Randy and i'll help you from this end.
And Hi mike, mister I hide in the shadows until the big boom happens lol jk.

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« Reply #1109 on: December 02, 2019, 12:36:38 PM »
Hey Still stream valentine cause tbh I make recordings of the nwr broadcasts and I haven't done an up to date one of the crrent cycle.  U know I wish you had an sdr on the side randy cause while you are live streaming I could always check out the ham activity in your area.  Send me an email Randy and i'll help you from this end.
And Hi mike, mister I hide in the shadows until the big boom happens lol jk.

Brandon I'll start the stream but won't link to my website. The server I'm using wxradio.dyndns.org
I'll pm email addy
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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1110 on: December 02, 2019, 01:01:32 PM »
My Gosh... lookit all them QC flags: ($)
This will cost them their Wunderweenie Gold Star, for sure

KVTN 021252Z AUTO 28003KT 10SM CLR M16/M18 A3001 RMK AO2 SLP213 T11561183 $
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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1111 on: December 02, 2019, 02:26:13 PM »
Ah, Brandon....
we found College Station -- - Actually it's "Bryan Tx"
a third party provider floating around out there.

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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1112 on: December 02, 2019, 06:57:09 PM »
F Y I
The entire suite of NOAA radio info pages went dead this afternoon (12-2) at about 3pm EST.
This inclkudes transmitter lists, frequencies, info, and status, among others,...

This has a some impact on NOAAWEATHERRADIO.ORG, since we sync throught the day
with the up to date NOAA status pages, and the current station listings...
otherwise it shouldn't affect operation, other than a stream source addition,
or a stream status change or update possibly.

The Links to 'NOAA Status" on the NWROrg site trigger 'NOT FOUND, and of course,

Many of the 'Local" WFO office pages on the new NOAA servers are up and running with
their local transmitter pages, however.
there is no way to submit an outage or problem report to NOAA until the complete
whatever changes or issues they're involved with presently.
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« Reply #1113 on: December 02, 2019, 10:08:40 PM »
UPDATE:
Links have been revised on ethe NWR site, unless we've overlooked one....
NWS Sync scripts upgrading soon.

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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1114 on: December 03, 2019, 12:15:15 AM »
Someone is relaying the Enid station, rather than the one from Oklahoma City as titled. It's been that way for a while. 

Also the 2nd home page using modified AltDashboard 6.95 at http://stillwaterweather.com/wx/2ndhome.php

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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1115 on: December 03, 2019, 12:54:48 PM »
Hi Bunty... Good catch...
Yes... WXK85 Norman is out of service... ... provider is streaming as alternate... rather than re configure plaaylist etc we usually let such things 'float' until we recieve definite word to permanently change.... especially with all the other changes NOAA/NWS keeps throwing at us...  heh...
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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1116 on: December 03, 2019, 01:29:37 PM »
Here is the Latest From Norman OK re WXK85
There is an issue with the antenna/feed line which requires a brand new antenna system to be installed. We are working with our regional HQ and the tower owner to make the necessary repairs but the process is taking longer than usual. We're hoping to have the broadcast back on the air soon.
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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1117 on: December 03, 2019, 08:05:30 PM »
I may consider keeping the Enid station going after the OKC station is restored by exploring the possibility of using an attic antenna to see if signal can be brought in much better.  Right now Enid can be received on the whip antenna on the radio but is too noisy to be used.  Or maybe the person who is bringing in the Enid station will think it won't be too much of a burden to keep it going.

Also the 2nd home page using modified AltDashboard 6.95 at http://stillwaterweather.com/wx/2ndhome.php

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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1118 on: December 06, 2019, 07:58:14 AM »
UPDATE From Norman OK re WXK85

"....It is still off the air as we await the replacement of the antenna system. This is taking longer than usual for a variety of reasons.

The good news is we are working on a temporary solution involving a temporary tower/antenna.
If we're able to make this happen, it will get the station back on the air.

Even with the antenna at a much lower height and much lower transmitting power, we still estimate that this signal would provide coverage for most of Oklahoma County (which is the only county in the transmitter coverage area not at least partially covered by an adjacent transmitter.)

We should know more details next week, and ... keep you updated on the progress.


Updates from R S. NWS Norman ... Big Thanks!

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Re: NOAA WEATHER RADIO
« Reply #1119 on: Yesterday at 08:34:30 PM »
Called WFO about NOAA Radio WXN82, the word they gave me unofficially up to 5 weeks it may be down. 
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« Reply #1120 on: Yesterday at 08:44:33 PM »
I see it on the outages list.
https://www.weather.gov/nwr/outages
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