Topic: NOAA WEATHER RADIO

[satcop]

Updated 6/10 at 7:50 thank you Falmouth, ME

I put together a spreadsheet to get some stats and to track how we are doing picking up NOAA station streams.   Each line is color coded based on whether there is a stream available and or whether one was available from WU.  Sorry I did not do this for Canada yet, next project, and yes the Canadian stations add to the total counts.  By the way Bermuda and Mexico I understand also have weather station broadcasts, is there anyone out there who will put up those feeds so that I would have additional projects?

There appears to be a total of 1028 NOAA stations.  Of those the percentage of stations provided by NOAAWeatherradio.org is 15.0% of the existing NOAA stations.  Which is higher than what WU had when it quit providing the service 13.7%.  Now we haven't done to badly putting those stations back online, of those previously provided by WU, noaaweatherradio.org now has 60.5% of them.  In addition we have also attracted a good proportion of stations that were not provided previously by WU, 44.4% of the stations on noaaweatherradio.org were not on WU.  In addition 1.4% of NOAA stations have a redundant stream online, something that WU had but you had to know where to look.

Now if we could only get those stations that haven't come back, we would have over 200 stations online with 183 different stations not counting redundant ones or the EC ones from Canada. This would increase the percentage of NOAA stations that are actually streamed to 17.8%.  Note that there is still a large number of stations just sitting on the tree waiting for the picking, I suspect that it covers a wide proportion of territory, but it is likely that those that cover the high population areas are somewhat covered, Denver is a glaring exception.

There are several states that have very low percentages of stations streamed, but that was also true for WU.  Some simply because of their size such as Alaska,Texas or California and I understand the difficulty of streaming from Alaska.  That being said I wish we could get some more of them out there where there are clear holes.  Colorado is a state that did much better with WU, where did they all go? I know that there have been some changes out there in the last couple of years, maybe people don't worry about the weather anymore for some reason....   I have to believe that there are weather websites in many of the areas not covered that would benefit from a feed, and also provide the service to those who use their information.  Further many sites may be able to add a neighboring station (I know several of us do that) as the reception is good enough to provide the service.

Bob

[gwwilk]

Wow!  That's impressive work, Bob. 

Not sure how you gathered all of the information, but it's very comprehensive and informative.

Let's hope it spurs some more to get into the streaming act with us.

[Maumelle Weather]

Hi Folks,

Below is a list of the old WU feeds we currently do not have running.


AL   Huntsville           KIH20    162.400                  
AL   Florence           KIH57    162.475                  
CA   Yosemite           KAD94   162.450                  
CA   Grass Valley   WWF67   162.400            
CA   El Paso Mountns.   WNG659   162.425                  
CO   Walsenburg   WNG579   162.450                  
CO   Denver             KEC76   162.550         
CO   Fort Collins/Ault   WXM92   162.450                  
CO   Dillon           WNG737   162.400                  
CO   Mead/Longmont   WXM51   162.475                  
CT   Hartford           WXJ41   162.475                  
FL   Tampa Bay           KHB32   162.550                  
FL   Melbourne           WXJ70   162.550                  
FL   Sarasota           WWG59   162.400                  
GA   Augusta           WXK54   162.550                  
GA   Jesup                   WXJ28   162.450                  
IA   Cedar Rapids   WXL61   162.475                  
IL   Springfield           WXJ75   162.400                  
IL   Dixon           KZZ55   162.525                  
IL   Peoria           WXJ71   162.475                  
IN   Evansville           KIG76   162.550      
IN   Angola           KXI94   162.425                  
IN   Fort Wayne           WXJ58   162.550   
IN   Bloomington   WXM78   162.450                  
KY   Irvine           WNG727   162.475                  
KY   Mount Vernon   WWG70   162.425                  
ME   Falmouth           KDO95   162.550
MI   West Olive           WXN99   162.425                  
MN   Lake Bronson   WNG583   162.525                  
MO   Camdenton           WXJ90   162.550
MO   Hannibal           WXK82   162.475                  
MO   Branson           KZZ43   162.550                  
NC   Rocky Mount   WXL59   162.475            
NC   Henderson           WNG586   162.500                  
NC   Asheville           WXL56   162.400                  
NE   Holdrege           WXL75   162.475                  
NE   Grand Island   WXL74   162.400         
NJ   Atlantic City   KHB38   162.400                  
NY   Syracuse           WXL31   162.550                  
NY   Norwich           KHC49   162.525                  
PA   Erie                   KEC58   162.400                  
RI   Providence           WXJ39   162.400                  
SC   Charleston           KHB29   162.550                  
SD   Sioux Falls           WXM28   162.400                  
TN   Nashville           KIG79   162.550                  
TN   Vale                   KHA46   162.450            
TX   Wichita Falls   WXK31   162.475         
TX   San Angelo           WXK33   162.550                  
TX   Houston           KGG68   162.400                  
VT   Burlington           KIG60   162.400   
WY   Cheyenne           WXM37   162.550                  
      
There may a couple I missed in putting them on the "active" list. If so, my apologies.  Most of the above had no contact information, nor websites.


John

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

   You can take Falmouth Maine off the "missing" WU feeds and
 add Ed's Scarborough Weather stream to Active DynDns

158 streams listed as of 06/10/2017

[Otis]

In addition 1.4% of NOAA stations have a redundant stream online, something that WU had but you had to know where to look.

Nice work.
Question - what are you considering for redundant streams?  TuneIn internet radio picks up my stream directly from my system; they also pick up many others.

Anyway, again, nice work - everyone!

[Maumelle Weather]

Hi Otis,

What we call a redundant stream is a NOAA Weather Radio stream from several people broadcasting the same callsign (e.g. - KEC49 out of Monterey, CA) There are 2 streams broadcasting this same callsign.

John

[saratogaWX]

I plead guilty to providing redundant streams

I stream KEC49 (Monterey) directly from BroadWave on my PC and to wxradio.dyndns.org via edcast.
Also stream WWF64 (Monterey Marine) directly from a Raspberry Pi3/SDR via icecast and to wxradio.dyndns.org via darkice.
Per our convention, the main streams are on wxradio.dyndns.org, and the alternative (redundant) feeds are my local ones.

I like the diversity so if (heaven forfend) wxradio.dyndns.org server goes down, my local streams will still be available.

[satcop]

I plead guilty to providing redundant streams

I stream KEC49 (Monterey) directly from BroadWave on my PC and to wxradio.dyndns.org via edcast.
Also stream WWF64 (Monterey Marine) directly from a Raspberry Pi3/SDR via icecast and to wxradio.dyndns.org via darkice.
Per our convention, the main streams are on wxradio.dyndns.org, and the alternative (redundant) feeds are my local ones.

I like the diversity so if (heaven forfend) wxradio.dyndns.org server goes down, my local streams will still be available.

I do something similar to Ken for Manassas and Hagerstown, with local host and wxradio host.  In addition there are further redundancy as others also provide the streams so if I lose power etc the stream is still available, so multiple paths, multiple hosts and multiple origination, get the feed to the public....

[mikev]

I do something similar to Ken for Manassas and Hagerstown, with local host and wxradio host.  In addition there are further redundancy as others also provide the streams so if I lose power etc the stream is still available, so multiple paths, multiple hosts and multiple origination, get the feed to the public....

Yeah, I think Manassas VA (KHB36) is the most redundant one... Your feed, my feed, and two Alert Eagle feeds (one from Thunder Eagle themselves, the other from Montgomery County MD). A good number of others have two sources (with two originators in most cases), and one has three sources (Roanoke VA)... but Manassas is the only one with four different sources as far as I could tell!

[Otis]

Thanks John (Ken & Mike) you all have answered my question.

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

159 streams listed as of 06/12/2017

Will be doing a quality check and active feed check next few days...  so might check your streams....
 

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

160 streams listed as of 06/14/2017
and we've knocked off 2 more Stations from John's Wunderground Wanderers List:
CT   Hartford           WXJ41   162.475   from somebody
ME   Falmouth           KDO95   162.550  from ScarboroughWeather

[heatcats]

I have changed the link to my live stream feed to http://wxradio.dyndns.org:8000/heatcats.mp3.m3u

This is in order to support broadcasting either WXM48 Wenatchee 162.475 or WWF56 Tri Cities 162.450 depending on the circumstances.

In addition, my feed will be offline except during hazardous weather events and non-weather emergencies. I'll tweet (@heatcats7) before I turn the feed on.

Finally, after September 15, since I'm moving off to university, I will no longer be able to stream WWF56/WXM48 at all.

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

WELL  

Bad day to begin Quality Checks!   MANY Dead streams!
This seems abnormal for us, so I stopped ....
... when I discovered that MY Owenton KY feed was down
because the stupid WIN 10 machine had shut off after
that dang Microsoft update cycle... and naturally did not restart.   
Figure something similar may have happened to others... whatever...
unusual...

So for now, check your feeds... a few are marked... possibly in error...
Will start over in a few days...

Listen for HUM... many feeds have hum... check cables, eg.
Some are very noisy, and we'll start to flag them... mostly
due to signal noise... can be easily fixed... see the 'how to' about antennas...
Check your volume level per How To... if all else fails, set for appoarent 'ear level'
through the player online, compared to the 'flying pigs' track.

Looks right now that we'll be permanently removing maybe at least six listings....
the persistent off-line or known problematic streams ....
and quality on many more is marginal to poor and some may be 'disabled' until improved...
"poors definitely will" especially when there's an alternate, or duplicate feed available.

[mikev]

... when I discovered that MY Owenton KY feed was down
because the stupid WIN 10 machine had shut off after
that dang Microsoft update cycle... and naturally did not restart.   

A few tips for Windows 10 and updates...

Pro tip 1: The SECOND Tuesday of EVERY month is Patch Tuesday. Mark it on your calendar! Updates will download!

Pro tip 2: After the "Creator's Update" to Windows 10 that was released back in April, there's now a "Pause Updates" switch. It will not download or install updates for ~1 month or until unpaused, whichever comes first. So if an emergency update came out off-cycle, your computer would not install or reboot unexpectedly. This gives a little more control over when your computer updates, at least. Just note that when unpaused, it can't be paused again until the computer is up-to-date.

Pro tip 3: Set "Active Hours" so that the computer will only reboot due to updates overnight. I have my "Active Hours" set from 6:00a to 12:00a (prior to the "Creator's Update", you could only have a 12 hour "Active Hours" window), so if I forget and updates auto-install, the computer will only restart between midnight and 6:00a. Since I always check my feed in the morning, that means it would most likely only be down during hours when not many, if any, are listening.

The Pause Updates switch is under the Advanced Options in Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update.

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

... when I discovered that MY Owenton KY feed was down
because the stupid WIN 10 machine had shut off after
that dang Microsoft update cycle... and naturally did not restart.   

A few tips for Windows 10 and updates...

Pro tip 1: The SECOND Tuesday of EVERY month is Patch Tuesday. Mark it on your calendar! Updates will download!

Pro tip 2: After the "Creator's Update" to Windows 10 that was released back in April, there's now a "Pause Updates" switch. It will not download or install updates for ~1 month or until unpaused, whichever comes first. So if an emergency update came out off-cycle, your computer would not install or reboot unexpectedly. This gives a little more control over when your computer updates, at least. Just note that when unpaused, it can't be paused again until the computer is up-to-date.

Pro tip 3: Set "Active Hours" so that the computer will only reboot due to updates overnight. I have my "Active Hours" set from 6:00a to 12:00a (prior to the "Creator's Update", you could only have a 12 hour "Active Hours" window), so if I forget and updates auto-install, the computer will only restart between midnight and 6:00a. Since I always check my feed in the morning, that means it would most likely only be down during hours when not many, if any, are listening.

The Pause Updates switch is under the Advanced Options in Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update.

Thanks... but that's not the big issue..
.. a few folks aren't checking their streams as they might worry CWOP or other service about being off a point or two on humidity...that's the biggie... that's why there're so many sites out there still unaware Wunderground Whacked 'em  6 months ago.  And we promised NOAA reliability and best quality we could source and achieve...

The stream I mentioned was online last night,.  That's not Tuesday. So my suggestion is trust nothing, just check streams once in awhile  if you're a provider...


So, now, let me repeat my post, since it got bumped down:
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WELL  

Bad day to begin Quality Checks!   MANY Dead streams!
This seems abnormal for us, so I stopped ....
... when I discovered that MY Owenton KY feed was down
because the stupid WIN 10 machine had shut off after
that dang Microsoft update cycle... and naturally did not restart.   
Figure something similar may have happened to others... whatever...
unusual...

So for now, check your feeds... a few are marked... possibly in error...
Will start over in a few days...

Listen for HUM... many feeds have hum... check cables, eg.
Some are very noisy, and we'll start to flag them... mostly
due to signal noise... can be easily fixed... see the 'how to' about antennas...
Check your volume level per How To... if all else fails, set for appoarent 'ear level'
through the player online, compared to the 'flying pigs' track.

Looks right now that we'll be permanently removing maybe at least six listings....
the persistent off-line or known problematic streams ....
and quality on many more is marginal to poor and some may be 'disabled' until improved...
"poors definitely will" especially when there's an alternate, or duplicate feed available.

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

161 streams listed as of 06/22/2017

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

161 streams listed as of 06/22/2017

162 streams listed as of 06/23/2017
 
Outstanding, PWS operators, and associates!  Who'da thunk it a few months ago!

[Helmsword]

161 streams listed as of 06/22/2017

162 streams listed as of 06/23/2017
 
Outstanding, PWS operators, and associates!  Who'da thunk it a few months ago!

And another one checked off the WU List of streams!

[W9LRT]

I'm a little late to this thread...  Is there someplace that has configuration information to setup a feed of my local weather service radio feed to your page?  Hoping to avoid going through 25 pages of post to find the information if it is available on a page somewhere.

I live in an area where I should be able to receive a couple locations not on your list.

Thanks

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

Heh,... you're not late!
try this:
http://noaaweatherradio.org/howto.html
still a bit 'disorganized'... but it's been a hectic affair!
Chers!
Mike

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

ok... NOW, many of you know my feeling about 'anti-social media".... but maintain a very low profile 'connection' purely for 'weather info' alerts, etc,....
I've received numerous msgs regarding the NOAAWR.ORG feeds.... so...
Plaster your Twitter to your local NWS with something similar to

We now have 160+ NOAA All Hazards Weather Radio streams listed at http://noaaweatherradio.org/  from PWS operators in North America
http://noaaweatherradio.org

Heck with 'Farcebook" ... just use the twitter....
NOAA likes what we're doing... let's let local WFO's know what's really happening....

Ken,John, Bob, et.al.. working on major updates to the presentation, and PWS scripts!  Stay Tuned!

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

ok... NOW, many of you know my feeling about 'anti-social media".... but maintain a very low profile 'connection' purely for 'weather info' alerts, etc,....
I've received numerous msgs regarding the NOAAWR.ORG feeds.... so...
Plaster your Twitter to your local NWS with something similar to

We now have 160+ NOAA All Hazards Weather Radio streams listed at http://noaaweatherradio.org/  from PWS operators in North America
http://noaaweatherradio.org

Heck with 'Farcebook" ... just use the twitter....
NOAA likes what we're doing... let's let local WFO's know what's really happening....

Ken,John, Bob, et.al.. working on major updates to the presentation, and PWS scripts!  Stay Tuned!

...and I've a feeling our next big project may be 'weather cams'.... I simply don't believe that "Big Blue" aka 'Weather Company" "Used2B Weather Underground" will continue such without some major diddling,...   all they 'really' want is your stats, which they can scrape from CWOP/Mesonet...  so it's really getting 'close' to a time PWS folks need to speak up... it's OUR product... not theirs.

[Fox_Of_The_Wind]

ok... NOW, many of you know my feeling about 'anti-social media".... but maintain a very low profile 'connection' purely for 'weather info' alerts, etc,....
I've received numerous msgs regarding the NOAAWR.ORG feeds.... so...
Plaster your Twitter to your local NWS with something similar to

We now have 160+ NOAA All Hazards Weather Radio streams listed at http://noaaweatherradio.org/  from PWS operators in North America
http://noaaweatherradio.org

Heck with 'Farcebook" ... just use the twitter....
NOAA likes what we're doing... let's let local WFO's know what's really happening....

Ken,John, Bob, et.al.. working on major updates to the presentation, and PWS scripts!  Stay Tuned!

...and I've a feeling our next big project may be 'weather cams'.... I simply don't believe that "Big Blue" aka 'Weather Company" "Used2B Weather Underground" will continue such without some major diddling,...   all they 'really' want is your stats, which they can scrape from CWOP/Mesonet...  so it's really getting 'close' to a time PWS folks need to speak up... it's OUR product... not theirs.

I gave up with WU for my webcams. So if you do go with it. I would be in (just to post webcams).....am not good at scripting

[saratogaWX]

Thanks to Clifton Weather(satcop)/Lincoln Weather(gwwilik)/Echo Valley Weather(sacreyweather) for their pioneering efforts to have a great looking stream player for the noaaweatherradio.org streams, I've put together a modified version that has both standalone and Saratoga template versions.

You can see it operating on my site at https://saratoga-weather.org/radio.php

The script set is available at https://saratoga-weather.org/scripts-wxradio.php#wxradio

It uses one master-file that is cached hourly from noaaweatherradio.org to drive the entire page, including generation of the dropdown selection box for available radio streams.  The distribution .zip files contain the scripts and images.  Customization details are on the scripts page above (and in comments on the main radios.php/wxradio.php scripts themselves).

Enjoy!