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Title: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: ctccbc on February 09, 2019, 11:42:52 PM
Back in 2017, when Acurite was announcing the release of the Atlas 7/8, they also included the Atlas Elite. Now that the Atlas 7/8 has been released, I have seen absolutely no mention of the Elite anymore. Is it now off the boards?

Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: nincehelser on February 10, 2019, 04:01:31 AM
Back in 2017, when Acurite was announcing the release of the Atlas 7/8, they also included the Atlas Elite. Now that the Atlas 7/8 has been released, I have seen absolutely no mention of the Elite anymore. Is it now off the boards?

Nope.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: DoctorKnow on February 11, 2019, 12:41:36 PM
Can you elaborate? Maybe Victoria has more?

The only thing that could be improved on that would be really beneficial to me is a faster wind and direction update. Also using a display to connect to either a PC or wireless Wifi console with uploading options besides a declining Wunderground.

Everything else Atlas is great as long as it's working. The UV may be a little low at times, but I am no expert there. Some other brands tend to seem on the high side.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: Victoria on February 12, 2019, 11:21:42 AM
I'm really not at liberty to discuss specifics on the direction of our product roadmap, nor could I give any timeline. But when I do have information I can share, I will certainly be happy to talk about it here.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: WXman on February 12, 2019, 11:53:08 AM
I realize Victoria is simply doing her job.  Totally understand that.  It's not her fault at all.

But...

Why is the Atlas Elite such a top secret?  Are they afraid that some other company is going to steal a trade secret?  Rush something to market before Acurite gets a chance to?  Newsflash:  other companies already offer stations that do everything the Elite will do.  They have for years.  This isn't going to bring anything new to the market, only to the brand.

I just don't understand what could be the harm in telling consumers, "We're launching the Elite in summer 2019," for example.  If anything, it would only increase sales because many folks would then hold off on other purchases to get the Elite they've been waiting for instead.  But by NOT giving any information, many people have said screw it and they've bought other weather stations instead.

 :roll:
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: nincehelser on February 12, 2019, 12:13:49 PM
Past experience has shown some people throw a conniption if any projected date is missed.



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Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: BeaverMeadow on February 12, 2019, 12:57:51 PM
Wondering about the Atlas Elite is like beating a dead horse. This has been going on for years.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: nincehelser on February 12, 2019, 01:01:08 PM
Just like WeatherFlow.

Just like Davis.



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Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: Jstx on February 12, 2019, 02:08:03 PM
Past experience has shown some people throw a conniption if any projected date is missed.

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Those people literally define themselves as fools who aren't worth listening to anyway (somewhat like temper-tantrum throwing toddlers).
Anyone with the slightest grasp of any technical field and/or project management knows that inevitably some glitches will happen. Some of which may affect certain timeline goals, even to the degree of causing the slip of a 'final' completion date. Some of those glitches might be compensated for or worked around, but the possibility of others to impact any projected schedule date is always present. Let alone factoring in the influences of other corp limbs like 'marketing', etc.

I've also been interested in seeing an Elite model PWS, as many others have hoped to see something more about it. As a very patient person (usually), I'll just wait some more to be able to make a comparison with the other expected PWS's on the market, like the seemingly vaporware mythical dragon of a VP3...
 My old La Crosse just keeps on ticking, and haven't even taken all of the new 5in1 out of the box yet. That's going to change this week though, we're looking at sunny skies and 80F+ degree afternoons the rest of the week, yeehaa (after a couple weeks of clouds, cool, and light rain/TS/fog).

Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: WXman on February 15, 2019, 02:44:46 PM
Just like WeatherFlow.

Just like Davis.



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Did Davis publicly announce a weather station that two years later still wasn't on the market?  I must have missed that.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: galfert on February 15, 2019, 02:51:05 PM
Just like WeatherFlow.

Just like Davis.



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Did Davis publicly announce a weather station that two years later still wasn't on the market?  I must have missed that.

Ninchelser's response was appropriate. It was a response to "wondering about the release." The company doesn't have to announce a release for people to wonder about the the VP3 release. And there is a whole lot of VP3 wondering going on, because it is way way overdue. And it has been way more than two years that people have been wondering about the VP3. A few years ago Davis opened up for requests about what they would like to see in a VP3. Then nothing materialized. Then on April fools they joke about the new VP3. It wasn't funny and I found it quite arrogant of them.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: rbimd on February 17, 2019, 10:55:26 AM
I'm going to have to go with "WOW" at this point. I have been a loyal AcuRite customer over 5 years, and have 2 PWS's in different parts of the country, endured the forced transition from SmartHub to Access in the hope that I would be able to use the Elite®. So now:
1) AcuRite is shutting down the forum because...........too much time commitment to answer the questions that are posted........too expensive......too many complaints about various issues.....what?
2) I wanted the Elite specifically to replace my 5-N-1's because I needed the promised longer wireless range and faster wind gust speed updates. But AcuRite isn't going to commit publicly to an approximate release date because......there are technical issues that are unresolved?.......other competitors miss their release dates also.........because it's none of my @#&% business....? Great responses.
3) The new sensors apparently require a different Display as they are not backwards compatible with the older ones. Familiar story. Same transmission frequency, at least in the Atlas (433 MHz) so I'm guessing some data protocol was changed. With all of the added costs involved I wonder if sales projections are the reason for shelving/delaying the Elite.... Or the user reviews of the Atlas (check Amazon) from, you know, lay people like myself, not the beta testers who get free product to review.
I was just hoping after the SmartHub PR debacle, that AcuRite would step up its game on the customer relations front. Still waiting...
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: alanb on April 06, 2019, 05:19:34 PM
If I remember correctly, the Atlas was released and generally available to consumers last fall … September 2018 or thereabouts? Does anyone remember an approximate date when the beta testers were given the green light to talk about it on the forums? Since there has been complete silence from Acurite about the Elite, knowing that date range (from beta tester public acknowledgment to release date) may give us some idea if there is still a chance for an Elite release in 2019. 
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: alanb on May 15, 2019, 10:09:03 PM
Has Acurite abandoned the Atlas Elite product? It has been a long time since it was last talked about and I can no longer find any reference to it at all when searching Acurite's site. It used to be you could find the Jan. 2017 CES announcement and a general description of the Elite product when you searched for it on Acurite's site. Now I can't find it at all.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: nincehelser on May 15, 2019, 10:14:13 PM
Has Acurite abandoned the Atlas Elite product? It has been a long time since it was last talked about and I can no longer find any reference to it at all when searching Acurite's site. It used to be you could find the Jan. 2017 CES announcement and a general description of the Elite product when you searched for it on Acurite's site. Now I can't find it at all.

No.  NDAs are keeping people's lips shut.

The info is still on Acurite's site:  https://www.acurite.com/media/documents/AcuRite-Atlas-Elite-Specifications.pdf
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: alanb on May 16, 2019, 12:10:23 PM
Thanks … good to hear it's still in the works.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: DoctorKnow on May 16, 2019, 01:29:09 PM
I don't know where Nincehelser hears all the information, but I'm glad someone can keep us semi informed on what's going on... I still wish Acurite would concentrate on software and more options before anything.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: jmello65 on June 22, 2019, 08:02:37 PM
The Atlas has too many problems that haven't been resolved -- for them to release the Atlas Elite -- the higher model. I know some will jump on me -- however there are issues/defects/bugs and or whatever you wanna call it that haven't been resolved with the Atlas.  The Atlas is an improvement over the 5 in 1 - however the Atlas hasn't meet its full potential -- like running a 100 yard dash and stopping 15 yards short the finish line -- or painting a house and only painting the front of house and leaving back part unfinished..  Wish they would of just taken more time - listened to what people wanted -- listened to the testers - made the improvements - rechecked then - put out for release. Whats the point of having testers report problems -- if there not fixed. Just a big waste of time  .  I would preferred to have the Atlas Elite - with all the higher updates - that worked than the Atlas with its lesser updates - and problems
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: nincehelser on June 22, 2019, 08:23:07 PM
The Atlas has too many problems that haven't been resolved -- for them to release the Atlas Elite -- the higher model. I know some will jump on me -- however there are issues/defects/bugs and or whatever you wanna call it that haven't been resolved with the Atlas.  The Atlas is an improvement over the 5 in 1 - however the Atlas hasn't meet its full potential -- like running a 100 yard dash and stopping 15 yards short the finish line -- or painting a house and only painting the front of house and leaving back part unfinished..  Wish they would of just taken more time - listened to what people wanted -- listened to the testers - made the improvements - rechecked then - put out for release. Whats the point of having testers report problems -- if there not fixed. Just a big waste of time  .  I would preferred to have the Atlas Elite - with all the higher updates - that worked than the Atlas with its lesser updates - and problems

Right.   :roll:

You saw how far your complaints got you on Facebook, Jeff.

Don't buy a display if you don't like it.  It's not an integral component of the system.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: alanb on July 28, 2019, 07:15:17 PM
Has there been any recent chit-chat anywhere about the Acurite Atlas Elite? Since it is approaching Aug., I will have to guess that we will not see the Elite in 2019. I would have expected Acurite to open it up to public discussion by the beta testers by now if they were planning to have it market ready by the 2019 Black Friday/holiday buying season. I don't remember exactly when they took the gag rule off for the Atlas 7/8, but I think it was earlier in the year than this.

Oh well, I guess those of us still waiting to see if the Elite is what we want to buy can wait another year.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: EverythingWx on August 02, 2019, 01:31:57 PM
I inquired about the Elite and this is what I was told:

"The Atlas Elite weather station is being refined by our development team to ensure that your feedback is incorporated into the final product. We will be ready to communicate more about the Atlas Elite in the near future."

They also said they were no longer looking for beta testers for the Elite.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: galfert on August 02, 2019, 02:16:12 PM
I inquired about the Elite and this is what I was told:

"The Atlas Elite weather station is being refined by our development team to ensure that your feedback is incorporated into the final product. We will be ready to communicate more about the Atlas Elite in the near future."

Well my feedback is include free open access to all the live data over local network with published documented API or I'm gonna tell everyone how much it SUX!
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: Theo on August 02, 2019, 02:50:14 PM
Well my feedback is include free open access to all the live data over local network with published documented API or I'm gonna tell everyone how much it SUX!

Good luck with that.  That is likely the only thing they can do to prevent me from moving to a Davis setup once my Atlas dies (hopefully a while from now).  With old iPads and some nice themes available for weewx, I can have a pretty nice display exactly how I want it.  It just really stinks that AcuRite tries so hard to prevent you from seeing the data.  It is stupidity in my opinion.  All they need to do is publish the reading from the sensors on the Access system, it likely would take them less that 4 hours to write that in.  I fear they are working on a way to monetize data access.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: galfert on January 20, 2020, 08:44:21 AM
Will 2020 be the year of the Atlas Elite? [/rhetorical]

A few years ago I remember seeing pictures of the Atlas Elite outside of Acurite headquarters for testing or demonstration. I wonder if they are still there? Was that a publicly accessible location, or at least visible? If yes I wonder what they look like today and if they show any weathering effects; discoloration, or cloudy solar panels, etc.

Anyone know of an Elite test station on WU? If yes what is the station ID?
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 26, 2020, 09:07:43 AM
Recently, I saw where the Elite is still being tested on. I don't remember any pictures of an Elite outside of Acurite. I do remember seeing several Atlas outside in a row like.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: magoo on April 09, 2020, 05:31:51 PM
Still waiting for the mystical Elite...

I will likely see a unicorn before an Elite.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: DoctorKnow on April 09, 2020, 07:38:08 PM
They have something online at Acurite that updates very fast. (Wunderground) I'm wondering if that is an Elite. It is using Ambient software though.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: galfert on April 09, 2020, 09:32:13 PM
They have something online at Acurite that updates very fast. (Wunderground) I'm wondering if that is an Elite. It is using Ambient software though.

Something online where? What? Can you explain that with more details? It just doesn't make sense. Why would Acurite have something that uses Ambient software???
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: BeaverMeadow on April 10, 2020, 08:37:57 AM
The Elite's specs if I recall were supposed to be right up there with the top Davis Pro2. I guess that was a harder thing to accomplish than originally thought. Also, since Davis never came out with a Pro3 perhaps Acurite figures the marketplace is working for them the way they have their product line configured. I'm guessing my first theory is more correct but it is a total guess. (Correct me if I am wrong).

Whatever the reason the Elite is still vaporous which is too bad because it sure looked like it would have been an exciting piece of equipment. 
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: DoctorKnow on April 10, 2020, 08:44:14 AM
They have something online at Acurite that updates very fast. (Wunderground) I'm wondering if that is an Elite. It is using Ambient software though.

Something online where? What? Can you explain that with more details? It just doesn't make sense. Why would Acurite have something that uses Ambient software???


I looked for it last night, but they took it off the air. It was labeled with "Acurite HQ" or "Chaney HQ". I checked my history but when I clicked it I got an error message. When I looked for the software by clicking the little I circle, it was an Ambient software "vws 00"
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: vreihen on April 10, 2020, 09:17:58 AM
I would hope that any PWS manufacturer would have hardware from every single competitor around their labs, to test their own stuff against the competition.....
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: DoctorKnow on April 10, 2020, 11:08:03 AM
I took a look at google maps, and see they have a big radiation shield and a lot of poles set up behind some Christmas trees. You can't really see good, and I guess that's the idea of the trees.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: Mabcmb on April 11, 2020, 08:03:55 PM
Here's a picture of the Elite from CES2017 yes 2017 .

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Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: magoo on April 11, 2020, 08:15:39 PM
Yeah that has been around for years. It’s just a tease at this point.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: alanb on July 01, 2020, 09:07:47 PM
Can we assume the Acurite Atlas Elite is now a dead product? There is no mention of it that I can find on the Acurite web site and it seems it no longer gets mentioned in this forum or anywhere else. It was announced in Jan. 2017. You would think there would be some mention of it somewhere if it was still in active development/testing/manufacturing.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: CW2274 on July 01, 2020, 09:34:06 PM
I'm sure this will absolutely agitate many here, but I have NO idea how Acurite is still in business. They have had more returns than can be counted posted here, be it 5-1's or the Atlas display freezing time and time again, no back up battery power, no signal reception, whatever... Forget the "Elite". Time to move along. 2 cents.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: vreihen on July 02, 2020, 08:10:45 AM
Forget the "Elite". Time to move along. 2 cents.

When I got tired of waiting for the Elite as an upgrade to my 5-in-1 after more than a year, I picked up a Davis VP2.  It works flawlessly, but I just realized that my VP2 is well out of warranty and *still* no Elite in sight.  Glad that I didn't wait any longer.

My next weather station will be an integration of best-of-breed sensors from several different manufacturers, or maybe a complete ASOS if they are hitting the government surplus market soon.....
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: DoctorKnow on July 02, 2020, 07:56:20 PM
What happened to Ninchehelser? He would know what happened if anyone does I would assume.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: vreihen on July 02, 2020, 08:29:48 PM
What happened to Ninchehelser?

My assumption was banned camp for being too argumentative in a few threads last winter, but it looks like he just stopped logging on in early March for some reason:

https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?action=profile;u=10666 (https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?action=profile;u=10666)

I hope he wasn't an early COVID casualty!!!!!
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: DoctorKnow on August 10, 2020, 09:13:50 AM
I read where the Elite is in it's 5th extension, and will be coming out soon. I have no idea if this is true, but if it's the case, the Elite should be coming out really soon. Apparently, they wanted to be very careful with this system. I'm hopeful this one will have some flexibility about who you can share data with, as that is the real issue for me with the Atlas. The lightning issue, the UV issue, and the signal issue from the Atlas are all fixable. I fixed the first two myself.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: galfert on August 10, 2020, 09:32:55 AM
Direct live data access over the LAN is key. Ambient has missed the boat on that too, only to be saved by the Ecowitt GW1000 (as it is a compatible accessory for Ambient). No matter how much Ambient likes to praise all the other ways you can get data. I think also important missing in some or all Acurite systems is manual barometric calibration.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: DoctorKnow on August 10, 2020, 09:50:50 AM
Direct live data access over the LAN is key. Ambient has missed the boat on that too, only to be saved by the Ecowitt GW1000 (as it is a compatible accessory for Ambient). No matter how much Ambient likes to praise all the other ways you can get data. I think also important missing in some or all Acurite systems is manual barometric calibration.


You can calibrate the barometer in the Access, or the display.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: John Z on August 11, 2020, 03:14:52 PM
DoctorKnow, Vreihen,

A couple of days ago you guys had asked what happened to Nincehelser. Sadly, his illness has claimed him. He was discovered  dead at his home in Round Rock TX on August 1. His day of passing is unclear. An online obit has been posted, and comes up immediately if you search on his full name, George David Nincehelser.

We probably all butted heads with him at least once, but no one can deny his long running helpfulness to the weather community. I also count him as a Ham Radio brother. He will be missed, not forgotten.

Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: galfert on August 11, 2020, 03:36:51 PM
RIP Nincehelser. Sure we butted heads but I always appreciated the dialog and we all appreciated your knowledge and contributions and you were never banned. You were just too set in your learned ways to ever grant an opposing view or idea. I feel awkward having the last word because I knew you would always come back and say something back and I was always okay with that. I'll say goodbye by saying I'm glad I got to know you some at least.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: vreihen on August 11, 2020, 04:59:14 PM
Sad news.  Rest in peace, George.....

https://www.hemmingsenfuneralhome.com/obituaries/George-Nincehelser/ (https://www.hemmingsenfuneralhome.com/obituaries/George-Nincehelser/)
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: daman on August 11, 2020, 08:58:41 PM
Sad, George was so helpful great guy he'll be missed RIP.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: tandy1000 on August 11, 2020, 09:54:28 PM
Sad to hear about George. I actually got a kick out of his... personality on here and in the old Acurite community. He helped me get started with rtl-433, and the reason I have one collecting data from 25 or so sensors. I somewhat gave up on the Elite, but the 5N1 sits next to a VP2 now.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: AlanD96 on August 12, 2020, 02:53:43 PM
George was a character but was one of the most knowledgeable people to visit our forum.  If I would ever challenge him on anything, I'd always cringe when coming back a few hours later to see how he'd reply.  It was always worth it to me though. Opinionated, cantankerous but often SO helpful to people.  I had wondered why he wasn't around here lately.

I'll really miss his posts     :-( 
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: radioman61 on August 13, 2020, 02:28:34 PM
Very sad news indeed.  George could be a real pistol at times.  I will miss him
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: jmello65 on October 04, 2020, 11:06:00 PM
When the Atlas was released i pointed out many issues/bugs/defects. George always dismissed me and the problems , stating they were'nt issues, even though some of those issues were fixed by Acurite pointed out by me. Wont go any farther -- cause everyone above pretty much summed  George up...  Maybe it was his illness he was suffering that made him grumpy, so will give him the benefit of the doubt -- well he doesnt have to suffer any longer.  Cant be that bad if he had a love of weather -- like me and others on this board have 
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: jmello65 on October 04, 2020, 11:10:10 PM
i saw a posting on facebook - on an acurite group site --- showing a posting of the Elite on Amazon  - with no price,pic --- but a description of the Elite ---  Did i see right    Anyone else see it
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: galfert on October 05, 2020, 05:17:19 AM
i saw a posting on facebook - on an acurite group site --- showing a posting of the Elite on Amazon  - with no price,pic --- but a description of the Elite ---  Did i see right    Anyone else see it

Yes it has been there for years. I have it saved on Camel Camel Camel with a very ridiculous price watch amount to alert me the minute it goes on sale.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074ZM5D5P
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: alanb on October 05, 2020, 11:25:01 AM
An interesting thought ... If the Atlas Elite is actually still a product in development, and if it had reached the stage of beta testing, one would have to think that George would be one of the beta testers and would have had an Elite in his possession. It could now potentially be in the hands of someone who didn't sign the NDA. I wonder how Acurite would handle a situation like this.

My guess is that the Elite is a dead project, but when George was still posting here, any time someone suggested that he would challenge it. He was a wealth of knowledge about Acurite products and I am sorry he is no longer with us.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: jmello65 on October 06, 2020, 04:10:46 PM
Why is the Elite posted on Amazon -- with no pic or price if it isnt for sale !!!!
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: galfert on October 06, 2020, 04:31:46 PM
A lot of vendors list their products on Amazon before they are available to have it ready. What happened is that at one point you could search for it and it would show up as coming soon. But then it was marked to be hidden as the release for the product changed. But if someone saved the link, then you can still get to it. I saved it, and that is how I'm still able to pull it up.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: jmello65 on October 06, 2020, 07:10:05 PM
How much were they asking for the Elite ??  300 - 400
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: galfert on October 06, 2020, 07:43:04 PM
It never had a price shown. But based on the Atlas pricing I think it would likely be much higher than $400. Just a hunch.

Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: CW2274 on October 06, 2020, 07:50:21 PM
It was meant as direct competition for the 24hr VP2. They even made the design similar.
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: jmello65 on November 19, 2020, 06:03:15 PM
  Hi guys !!!!!


I saw on facebook today --  that Acurite made an announcement of a new product -- says will be out a week or two -- said look for further emails -----  what could it be ???   The Elite  !!!!!  -- just in time for the holidays ----- is it the Elite or a new Display ---  Thoughts
Title: Re: Acurite Atlas Elite
Post by: galfert on November 19, 2020, 06:05:08 PM
You are in the wrong thread.
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40804.0