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Title: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on March 01, 2018, 09:37:01 AM
OK, March 1 is the first day of 'Spring', right?  March, April, May with Summer being June, July, August.

So, I'll start it off with a bang.  Errrrr, ... a Splash.

First picture is a plowed field, not a lake.  There should not be any water visible at all.  Creek is way back in those far trees, nearly a quarter mile from the road and fence in the foreground.

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Second picture is the road.  Near that red arrow, water is around 8' deep.  I know because I measured it with a 1x2x8 dipstick a few years back when it did this.

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: spc fresno on March 01, 2018, 11:10:15 AM
California is definitely starting with a splash! After a ridiculously dry February, we are finally getting a decent storm. The highest elevations in the mountains may get up to 4 feet of snow! The central valley will get up to around 1.5" of rain, and the northern Sacramento valley (Redding, Red Bluff) might even get a little snow. It's as if winter was postponed by about 2 months! At the moment things are just starting to ramp up (in Fresno), and my weather station has picked up 0.03" in the last hour. Hard to believe it's March (this seems more typical of Dec/Jan)!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on March 01, 2018, 11:19:38 AM
2nd wettest February on record where I live. We could see 50-60 mph wind gusts tonight, so I guess March is coming in like a lion.  ;)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on March 01, 2018, 11:27:12 AM
^^^  A Sea Lion.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on March 01, 2018, 11:36:49 AM
River gauge is up another foot in the last 24 hours.  That may not sound like much, but at this point flood waters spread out over many, many square miles.

Flooding is happening basically from Cincinnati to Memphis and beyond.  Also well up into Illinois and Indiana along the Wabash and other waterways that feed the Ohio.



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 01, 2018, 11:44:28 AM
Issue around here is standing water from snow melting with 27F  4" soil temperature... No biggie just messy.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on March 01, 2018, 02:02:43 PM
Our issue is drought. My CoCoRaHS records for November through today show .81" precip. (liquid and frozen). Of that .28" fell in February. Beginning to hurt around here.

I am not trying to make little of the terrible floods back there.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on March 03, 2018, 06:33:57 PM
Looks to be at least a week before levels begin to fall.  As of now, this road may not be clear enough to drive until Monday the 12th.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on March 03, 2018, 06:37:59 PM
Not spring yet.  Snow-possibly up to 9 inches Sun-Tuesday.
If it was a few inches, I would not shovel. But it looks like another snow blower event. My knee may not be able to take it.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on March 14, 2018, 09:19:38 AM
60s on the horizon again.  Had a few so far, but not many.  I need a few weeks of 60/70 day, 50/60 night and not jumping into the 80s daytime too soon.



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 16, 2018, 08:43:31 AM
Freezing rain this morning, later sleet and 3-7" snow possible today. This was the Cocorahs gauge with just .08 precipitation so far.

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on March 16, 2018, 10:30:25 AM
My, my. Frosted cut crystal! Very expensive.

I was cleaning my CoCoRaHS gauge yesterday and noticed that the southwest quarter of the outer cylinder is sort of scoured/frosted, while the rest is pretty clear. You can sure tell our prevailing wind direction down here just by seeing that.

Yours is likely NW, right?
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 16, 2018, 10:37:40 AM
Winter NW for sure but south would be a close second. Its covered in ice. I use hydrobead inside my cocorahs gauges which gives a glazed over look. Every drop counts.  ;)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on March 16, 2018, 01:07:30 PM
More or less back to normal.  Water down off all roads, but maybe a few more days yet before it's back within creek banks.

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Mud line doesn't show up real well in pictures, but it's roughly at the red arrow.  And that's pretty close to a half mile from the river.

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 16, 2018, 02:51:29 PM
Back to normal here too...  \:D/
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on March 20, 2018, 01:54:21 PM
The weather outside is frightful.

It's March frickin' 20th and it's frickin' snowing!!!!   T-meter says 36, but it's lyin' like a cheap rug.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Cutty Sark Sailor on March 21, 2018, 11:01:04 AM
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Weather/CoCoRaHSTracks/i-VVB9wnb/0/345e4214/L/Welcome%20to%20Spring%202018-L.jpg) (http://www.ourspecialnet.com/Weather/CoCoRaHSTracks/i-VVB9wnb/A)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on March 21, 2018, 07:33:14 PM
I just don't want it to jump from the 50s to the 80s.  I'd like a few weeks of 70s.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 22, 2018, 09:19:39 PM
Consecutive days of freezing about to end at 99.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on March 22, 2018, 10:14:41 PM
Consecutive days of freezing about to end at 99.
:lol:   I touched 94F today. However, that's coming to a screeching halt.....
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on March 23, 2018, 07:47:08 AM
more snow on the way for Southern and Western Minnesota. Parts of Northern Iowa
Up to 9 inches.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: alanb on March 23, 2018, 12:08:44 PM
more snow ... Parts of Northern Iowa Up to 9 inches.
Here's what the NWS warning says for my area: "* WHAT...Heavy snow with light ice amounts possible. Total snow accumulations of 6 to 9 inches, with localized amounts up to 12 inches. Minor ice accumulations of a light glaze. East winds could gust to 30 to 35 mph at times."

YUCK! Sounds like it may not be suitable for snow blower so I will have to decide whether to shovel or wait for melt.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on March 23, 2018, 10:04:19 PM
Severe thunderstorm warning with lots of 1/4 to 1/2" hail and up to 1" here in the last hour. Ground is white. And I don't have my Davis ordered yet.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on March 24, 2018, 11:57:08 AM
more snow ... Parts of Northern Iowa Up to 9 inches.
Here's what the NWS warning says for my area: "* WHAT...Heavy snow with light ice amounts possible. Total snow accumulations of 6 to 9 inches, with localized amounts up to 12 inches. Minor ice accumulations of a light glaze. East winds could gust to 30 to 35 mph at times."

YUCK! Sounds like it may not be suitable for snow blower so I will have to decide whether to shovel or wait for melt.

Alan-where are you? PM if you do not want to be public. I grew up in Lytton Iowa.
There are areas reporting 9 already.  Massive cut off near Owatonna MN. 5 miles south of town-snow. 2 miles south of town-nothing.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on March 24, 2018, 12:11:12 PM
Jackson Minnesota thunder snow. Hard to embed

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/977538508977049600 (https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/977538508977049600)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on March 24, 2018, 12:23:28 PM
Clear Lake Iowa  16 inches

https://www.weather.gov/source/crh/snowmap.html?sid=mpx
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: alanb on March 24, 2018, 03:04:55 PM
Alan-where are you? PM if you do not want to be public. I grew up in Lytton Iowa.
There are areas reporting 9 already.  Massive cut off near Owatonna MN. 5 miles south of town-snow. 2 miles south of town-nothing.
I am in east central IA ... Cedar Rapids area. Still snowing and blowing here as I write this, but the radar shows the coverage area shrinking and gradually moving east. I guess it is about time to start up the snow blower and see if it can handle this wet stuff.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on March 24, 2018, 09:12:03 PM
Cloudy and rainy all week with no Sun until Friday.  I think I'll just stay in bed.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on March 27, 2018, 12:00:43 PM
Yesterday they said 'chance of rain, generally before 2PM' or some such words.  Not a drop.  Not a sprinkle.  About 2:15, it came down in buckets, thunder and all.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on March 27, 2018, 03:00:43 PM
Remember Maxwell Smart on "Get Smart"? He would say, "Misssed it by that much."
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on March 28, 2018, 07:55:27 PM
It is officially spring.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZaTPbvU0AEdOwh.jpg)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 29, 2018, 01:17:40 PM
I'm all for imprisonment of Punxsutawney Phil. 
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on March 29, 2018, 04:14:01 PM
^^  How are they with 'taters and gravy?

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on March 31, 2018, 10:49:36 AM
2-3 inches this morning. More to the North.  Near record cold tonight.
Temperatures below normal all week. Almost 20 degrees below normal.

Spring is on hold until further notice.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 01, 2018, 01:40:21 PM
Merry Christmas.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 01, 2018, 02:35:37 PM
31 Years ago this week. Haven't had anything this bad since.

http://articles.latimes.com/1987-03-29/news/mn-1272_1_central-kansas

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on April 02, 2018, 02:29:14 AM
2-3 inches this morning. More to the North.  Near record cold tonight.
Temperatures below normal all week. Almost 20 degrees below normal.

Spring is on hold until further notice.

Freeze warning here.  Covers north half of Oklahoma. Not unusually late for one, though.  Freezing lows are usually over for the season here during the 1st week of April.

Freeze Warning  FREEZE WARNING   Freeze Warning
STILLWATER
Areas Affected:
Alfalfa - Blaine - Canadian - Custer - Dewey - Ellis - Garfield - Grant - Harper - Kay - Kingfisher - Lincoln - Logan - Major - Noble - Oklahoma - Payne - Roger Mills - Woods - Woodward
Effective: Sun, 4/1 8:14pm    Updated: Mon, 4/2 1:25am    Urgency: Expected
Expires: Mon, 4/2 9:00am    Severity:  Moderate     Certainty: Likely
 
Details:

...FREEZE WARNING IN EFFECT UNTIL 9 AM CDT MONDAY...
The National Weather Service in Norman has issued a Freeze
Warning, which is in effect until 9 AM CDT Monday.
* TEMPERATURE...Mid to upper 20s across northern Oklahoma with
temperatures near 30 in central Oklahoma.
* IMPACTS...These conditions will kill plants and other tender
vegetation that are left outdoors or unprotected.

Information:

If you have plants, small
trees or other tender vegetation which could be harmed by a
freeze, take the time now to protect them. Potted plants normally
left outdoors should be covered or brought inside away from the
cold.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 02, 2018, 07:08:18 AM
They have the friggin 'S' word in our forecast for Friday night.  That after a day of 70s and possible severe storms Tuesday.

And yes, the peach tree is trying to bloom.  Not sure how that'll work out this year.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 02, 2018, 07:31:36 AM
Looking back through recent official Climate Summaries, it appears December, January and March were below normal in temperature with September, November and February running above.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 02, 2018, 04:20:41 PM
A inch or so right now. They are thinking about 4-5 here. More in other places. At least the sun is strong enough to melt a lot of it on the roads.

Watching my kid drive from Fargo and back in any bad weather is very stressful.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 02, 2018, 05:00:56 PM
Enhanced Risk for tomorrow.

Wonderful!

Ever tell ya' how much I despise severe weather?



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 03, 2018, 08:36:41 AM
They were thinking mainly rain here: Check the forecast we had going into yesterday evening.
 
Tonight: Rain likely, possibly mixed with snow before 1am, then rain likely between 1am and 2am, then snow likely after 2am.  Cloudy, with a low around 20. Blustery, with a north northeast wind 10 to 15 mph increasing to 20 to 25 mph after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 35 mph.  Chance of precipitation is 60%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of less than one inch possible.

The RAP was forecasting 3-4" snow so decided to FYI on website info blog giving heads up forecast was different from RAP.  Not sure what model the forecast was derived from. All this snow fell without any advisory or even public info statement.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 03, 2018, 05:26:44 PM
Currently 72 degrees.

Frost mentioned for Thursday morning and then snow for Friday night.

Say what now?

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 03, 2018, 05:30:40 PM
Some wild swings here too. Highs in the 60s tomorrow and Thursday; Friday, 35 and low of 16.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 03, 2018, 07:35:35 PM
Depending on where-there is between 4-8 inches. I have about 6. When the sun is out-it melts on roads that have been treated or cleared. But untreated areas and the ground see collections.

Low of 12 tonight. Wind chills around 0.  Feb 14 type weather.

not a glimpse of 40 until NEXT FRIDAY.

I am at the point where I don't really want to shovel. That and I have a torn meniscus so the neighbors and wife are doing it.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 03, 2018, 07:57:54 PM
Warm ground and high sun angle did a number on our snow. Even with temps in low 20's it was melting.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 03, 2018, 09:21:22 PM
My neighbor turned his christmas lights on!!!!!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 04, 2018, 09:06:07 AM
Airport came in at 5 (-15C) which was a record for date. My station in town 6, while the Davis station outside town 3.
More winter weather forecast Thursday night. Whats nice this time of year snow melts fast with sun angle and ground only froze at surface.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 04, 2018, 09:45:35 AM
Rather wish I had my weather station set up, but the USPS seems to have misplaced it.

Pretty chilly for this part of the country too. Low 15 at the AWOS in town; high supposed to be 60.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 04, 2018, 10:20:32 AM
USPS misplaced? I've often wondered about these misplacements.... ;)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 04, 2018, 01:29:31 PM
Other record lows around Nebraska this morning.
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 04, 2018, 04:07:36 PM
Close to a 50 degree range min to max today. Low this morning 14, current temp 62. Wind gusts to 35.

ValentineWeather, you have snow in your forecast for Friday?

Going  to plant iceberg lettuce, Yukon gold potatoes, snow peas, and icicle radishes for my garden this year. ;-)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 04, 2018, 05:21:45 PM


ValentineWeather, you have snow in your forecast for Friday?



We do...
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 05, 2018, 06:34:27 AM
A Winter Storm Watch is in effect Friday night through early Saturday morning. Moderate to heavy wet snow is possible in the Watch area. It is still too soon to detail specific snowfall amounts. However, up to 4 inches will be possible, with isolated higher amounts not out of the question.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 05, 2018, 08:13:25 AM
Low of 13 this morning. Twins game will be the coldest opening day since 1962. When played outdoors.
3:00 start. MLB is stupid.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 05, 2018, 12:09:47 PM
UGH
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 05, 2018, 03:51:01 PM
Chance for some record cold here too. Forecast is calling for 10 on Sat. but they are almost always on warm side after arctic front. To Break record it will need drop down to 5 again so may be pushing it.
I'm looking at the RAP models for tonights snow most I'm seeing with afternoon runs is 1-2". So without a little deeper snowpack may not reach 5 necessary for record Saturday morning  :sad:...
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 05, 2018, 05:34:12 PM
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 05, 2018, 06:29:48 PM
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That means single digit wind chills.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 06, 2018, 03:48:54 AM
With a mere 5 days on the clock, we're almost 8 degrees below normal for the month to date.  The next several days, maybe a week, also look to be well below normal.  After that, maybe a flip.  I've seen moths previously that started out far below (or above ) normal that ended the opposite, so we'll see how this one works out.  We went something like 15 or 16 months straight above normal before breaking the streak with one below normal month.  Since then, it has been a mix.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: PaulMy on April 06, 2018, 09:21:46 AM
From the Farmer's Almanac:
After the snow the past 3 days, maybe I'll become a believer...

April 2018 Long Range Weather Forecast for Southern Ontario
DatesWeather Conditions
Apr 1-6Snow showers, cold
Apr 7-12Sunny, turning mild
Apr 13-16A few showers, warm
Apr 17-20Sunny, cool
Apr 21-24Rainy east, sunny west; cool
Apr 25-30Rainy periods, cool
Apriltemperature 5C (avg.)
precipitation 40mm (20mm below avg. east, avg. west)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on April 06, 2018, 10:28:16 PM
Another freeze warning has been issued for tonight.  But this time snow is expected, projected at a half an inch. 
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on April 07, 2018, 06:07:28 AM
 
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY 

Areas Affected:
 Beckham - Blaine - Caddo - Canadian - Carter - Cleveland - Coal - Comanche - Custer - Dewey - Ellis - Garvin - Grady - Greer - Harper - Hughes - Johnston - Kingfisher - Kiowa - Lincoln - Logan - Major - McClain - Murray - Oklahoma - Payne - Pontotoc - Pottawatomie - Roger Mills - Seminole - Stephens - Washita - Woodward
Effective: Sat, 4/7 3:28am Updated: Sat, 4/7 5:00am Urgency: Expected
Expires: Sat, 4/7 12:00pm Severity: Minor Certainty: Likely

 
Details: ...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON CDT TODAY...
* WHAT...Sleet, freezing drizzle, and snow will result in a light
glaze of ice causing some slick spots on roads. Some locations
within the advisory could receive up to an inch of snow
accumulation.
* WHERE...Portions of central, east central, northwest,
southeast, southern, southwest and western Oklahoma.
* WHEN...Until noon CDT today.
* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Plan on slippery road conditions. Be
prepared for reduced visibilities at times.

Information: A Winter Weather Advisory means that periods of snow, sleet or
freezing rain will cause travel difficulties. Be prepared for
slippery roads and limited visibilities, and use caution while
driving. The latest road conditions for Oklahoma can be obtained
by calling 8 4 4 4 6 5 4 9 9 7, or for Texas by calling
8 0 0 4 5 2 9 2 9 2.
 
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 07, 2018, 06:39:33 AM
You think it's odd, but then you look back through the records and find it really isn't.  Records show we've had snow as late as April 18 (1/2" 1983) and freezing temperatures as late as May 7.  I also see a 34 on May 27, 1961

The record low for today is 24, but I'm not sure we'll hit that.  Record snowfall for today is T 1982 and we've already beat that - ground is white.



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 07, 2018, 07:27:25 AM
Yes, that date stamp say April even if nothing else in the picture does.  Well, the peach tree is trying to bloom, so there is that.  Not expecting peaches though.


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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 07, 2018, 08:47:26 AM
Official site at the airport, 6 miles from me, is 5 above. Next county seat east, 2 above.

Never seen anything like this so late in the year. An inch of snow on the ground.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 07, 2018, 12:24:41 PM
Official site at the airport, 6 miles from me, is 5 above. Next county seat east, 2 above.

Never seen anything like this so late in the year. An inch of snow on the ground.

You were colder than Cherry County northern Nebraska then. 3 thermometers around here were 8,9,10. I think some of the colder core air from system has went south as the storm moved.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 08, 2018, 11:58:00 AM
Good News its finally over.
Winter has been booked on charges of Loitering, Trespassing, and Obstruction of Spring.
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 08, 2018, 12:50:01 PM
I've often said that April 15th is the Season change, no matter what NWS or the stars say.  Thursday is the 12th and that appears to begins a string of 70 degree days.  OK, so I was off by 3 days this year.





Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 08, 2018, 04:25:11 PM
I've often said that April 15th is the Season change, no matter what NWS or the stars say.  Thursday is the 12th and that appears to begins a string of 70 degree days.  OK, so I was off by 3 days this year.

I think you have tax day confused with end of winter.  :-k At no time ever have I remotely considered middle of April being the end of winter.

Even here sprinklers are normally being readied, grass is greening up some even mowed during the Masters Tournament weekend.

This year totally different with temps running almost 20 below normal but more normal 60's on horizon. 
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 08, 2018, 04:28:46 PM
-19.6 currently.
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 08, 2018, 04:34:55 PM
lightly snowing and about 25-30 degrees below normal.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on April 08, 2018, 04:36:26 PM
By Wed., pushin' 100F........ :roll:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 08, 2018, 05:50:55 PM
Send a chunk of that our way and leave a bunch in Colorado...Please
Starting to worry about upcoming wedding trip Arizona/Vegas going across the rockies. Been stuck in blizzards more than once on those hills. 
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on April 08, 2018, 06:23:27 PM
Our average first 100F is late May. Bright side, at least this should hopefully start to kill off some of the damn pollen. ](*,)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 09, 2018, 07:36:57 AM
Possum done froze to the Gumbush.

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 09, 2018, 07:39:03 AM
RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PADUCAH KY
455 PM CST WED APR 4 2018

...RECORD COLD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT PADUCAH KY...

 A RECORD COLD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 48 DEGREES WAS SET AT PADUCAH KY
TODAY. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 49 SET IN 1998.

-------------------------------------


RECORD EVENT REPORT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PADUCAH KY
0555 PM CDT SUN APR 08 2018

...RECORD COLD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT PADUCAH KY...

 A RECORD COLD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 44 DEGREES WAS SET AT PADUCAH KY
TODAY APRIL 8TH. THIS BREAKS THE OLD RECORD OF 45 DEGREES SET IN
1982.



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: rf-harris on April 09, 2018, 02:49:42 PM
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 10, 2018, 07:33:35 AM
So, highs for the next week look like Spring, right?

53, 66, 77, 77, 72

Then what's with the 49 and 50 for next Sunday and Monday?

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on April 10, 2018, 06:46:46 PM
98F for me today. I may actually be triple digits tomorrow, 7 weeks ahead of schedule.  :shock:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 10, 2018, 08:56:44 PM
I'm just glad we don't always get most likely.
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 11, 2018, 06:55:23 AM
Bigger impacts could lie with a heavy rainfall risk this weekend.
There are some indications that the closed mid/upper level low
could slow down and be quite slow to move across regions east of
the MS River Saturday and Saturday night. This would lead to
training of showers and scattered storms from TN northeast across
much of western Ky into sw IN, and could result in a few inches
of rainfall in those areas.
Some models continue to be a bit more
progressive, leading to lower totals, so forecast confidence is
still not very high at this time. Definitely something to monitor.

Much colder air will be set to plunge back into the region in the
wake of this frontal passage Sunday into early next week. After
brief dry slot, could also see quite a bit of wrap around cloud
cover lingering Sunday/Monday. Brisk northwest winds and expected
clouds could hold daytime readings in the upper 40s to mid 50s.




Aside from the impending return of The Chill for a few days, the rain risk is NOT good news.  Rivers fell quite a bit but are once again at Minor Flood Stage in many areas and Action Stage in others.  A 'few inches' of rain could easily put us back to Moderate Flood Stage and close roads again.


Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 11, 2018, 08:02:26 AM
Well confidence went up overnight along with snowfall. Now at 8" with 40-50 mph winds will probably prompt a Blizzard Warning.
This is actually serious for ranchers they're toward end of calving season, my cousin said they still had couple hundred unborn and ready to drop.  If this storm materializes all the newborn calves are at risk even the thousands already born. If losses really spike its very likely to impact beef prices nationally, but would really impact ranchers locally. 
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 11, 2018, 06:59:39 PM
Not the first time we have has snow in April. We are just ready for spring.

Quote
SIGNIFICANT WINTER STORM POSSIBLE FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH
SATURDAY EVENING...

.A significant winter storm Friday night into Saturday evening
could include all precipitation types, strong winds, and blizzard
conditions. A Winter Storm Watch has been issued.

Rain and thunderstorms are expected to develop late Thursday night
and persist for much of the day Friday as temperatures remain in
the mid to upper 30s. Colder air will begin to move in Friday
evening, changing the precipitation to snow across central and
western Minnesota. In addition to the heavy snow, strong winds
gusting between 40 to 50 mph will bring the possibility of
blizzard conditions to west central Minnesota. The best chance for
whiteouts will be late Friday night there. The rain will turn to
a wintry mix of freezing rain, sleet, and snow across south
central and east central Minnesota, and west central Wisconsin
Friday evening, before changing to all snow Saturday.

Total snow accumulations of 8 to 12 inches are possible across
central and west central Minnesota, with totals tapering off to 3
or 4 inches across south central Minnesota and west central
Wisconsin. Total ice accumulations of two tenths to three tenths
of an inch are possible across south central Minnesota and west
central Wisconsin, with amounts tapering off to a tenth of an inch
or less across western and central Minnesota.

MNZ053-060>063-067>070-074>078-082>085-091-092-WIZ014>016-023>028-
120500-
/O.NEW.KMPX.WS.A.0009.180414T0300Z-180415T0600Z/
Chisago-Hennepin-Anoka-Ramsey-Washington-Sibley-Carver-Scott-
Dakota-Brown-Nicollet-Le Sueur-Rice-Goodhue-Watonwan-Blue Earth-
Waseca-Steele-Martin-Faribault-Polk-Barron-Rusk-St. Croix-Pierce-
Dunn-Pepin-Chippewa-Eau Claire-
Including the cities of Center City, Minneapolis, Blaine,
St Paul, Stillwater, Gaylord, Chaska, Shakopee, Hastings,
New Ulm, St Peter, Le Sueur, Faribault, Red Wing, St James,
Mankato, Waseca, Owatonna, Fairmont, Blue Earth, Osceola,
Rice Lake, Ladysmith, Hudson, River Falls, Prescott, Menomonie,
Durand, Chippewa Falls, and Eau Claire
344 PM CDT Wed Apr 11 2018

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM FRIDAY EVENING THROUGH LATE
SATURDAY NIGHT...

* WHAT...Heavy mixed precipitation possible. Total snow
  accumulations of 3 to 7 inches, and ice accumulations of two
  tenths to three tenths of an inch are possible.

* WHERE...Portions of northwest and west central Wisconsin and
  central, east central, south central and southeast Minnesota.

* WHEN...From Friday evening through late Saturday night.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Power outages and tree damage are
  possible due to the ice. Travel could be dangerous and nearly
  impossible. Tree branches could fall. Winds gusting as high as
  45 mph could cause patchy blowing and drifting snow.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A Winter Storm Watch means there is potential for significant
snow, sleet or ice accumulations that may impact travel. Continue
to monitor the latest forecasts.
](*,) ](*,)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 11, 2018, 07:36:15 PM
Got us at 11" now with blizzard conditions in language, gust to 60 mph. Fun fun.  =D>
 
Expect watches will be elevated to warnings on the early morning model runs tomorrow...

What's different this time of year are warm ground conditions along with long days but if snowfall rates come in at around 1" hour won't have problem accumulating.
Won't stay around long either, we were melting snow in the low 20's with sun out on last snow.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 11, 2018, 07:47:29 PM
^^  And if that run off ends up in the Mississippi, it'll become my problem.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 11, 2018, 08:05:08 PM
Tomorrow is Statewide Tornado drill day
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 11, 2018, 08:24:30 PM
The usual storm track for this winter, so we will remain fairly dry on this one again. Nebraska event. On a positive note we will be getting 50-55 gusts and a 50 degree or more temperature drop by Saturday.

ValentineWeather, I don't think I am at all jealous of your forecast...except for the moisture.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 11, 2018, 09:58:48 PM


ValentineWeather, I don't think I am at all jealous of your forecast...except for the moisture.

How is Kansas on moisture so far?
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 11, 2018, 09:59:48 PM
Tomorrow is Statewide Tornado drill day

Had ours last week.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 11, 2018, 10:18:07 PM
ValentineWeather

We are among the lucky here; just abnormally dry. However, it has been a very dry winter and our early spring is not looking good. My CoCoRaHS water year was above average, but since then it is like the spigot was turned off. We have little to none irrigation in this county. Dry land corn and wheat; with this ethanol mostly corn. Also a big cow-calf county.

The worst area of KS is Southwest; prolonged drought there.

Generally La Nina gives us this kind of pattern according to the folks at NWS Hastings. They were not surprised by it.

Stay out of the snow. ;-)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 12, 2018, 06:42:08 AM
Looking potential major impact from this spring blizzard. Snowfall likely is at 14" now

Part of discussion: National Weather Service North Platte NE
353 AM CDT Thu Apr 12 2018

The models continue the advertise strong
potential for a crippling winter type system that will bring
significant snows and extreme wind
to much of the forecast area
through the day on Friday and into Saturday. Blizzard conditions are
nearly certain now for the Sandhills and northern Nebraska,
with
high confidence that periods of blizzard conditions will impact
locations along and south of Interstate 80.  Expect some roads to
become impassible due to white-out conditions and drifting.
Localized power grid disruptions can be expected as well.  Equally
concerning is the potential for the loss of life of ranching values,
especially newborn/infant calves as the forecast calls for a cold
rain that will transition to snow with the arrival of Arctic air.

Its a foregone conclusion that our current WSW will be upgraded to
the various headlines.  Since accumulating snows will largely begin
after 12z Friday, at the earliest, we`ve decided to hold-off on any
upgrades to see one more suite of model runs.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 12, 2018, 08:29:49 AM
Randy, if I might call you by your name, be careful. Nothing to mess around with.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 12, 2018, 10:39:24 AM
They just can't put a finger on this one.

Weather person here said model are ranging from 1-28" of snow!!!! Timing is still bad. Won't be able to pin anything down until Friday.

We have had 12 inches of rain on April 15 before.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 12, 2018, 10:56:47 AM
Randy, if I might call you by your name, be careful. Nothing to mess around with.

Sure.. Yes precautions are good. This will be first real prolonged blizzard if it materializes. We have gas stove backup for emergency heat and couple monoxide monitors so even if power goes off should be okay. Visitors to website will be disappointed however.  :-(
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 12, 2018, 11:05:12 AM
I find it a bit surprising that an upgrade to warning has not been issued at this time. Less than 24 hrs.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 12, 2018, 03:44:24 PM
Yes they waited along time because of previous over jumping the gun I think. Blizzard warnings up now just before noon CT. I have a daughter in Anchorage that was excited she says they never have Blizzards here. LOL....Heavy snow yes but usually light winds in Anchorage area.
 
Laural Ingalls little house on the prairie weather coming up. 
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 12, 2018, 03:54:22 PM
First 80 of the year.  Couple of weeks ago, we were barely able to hit 50.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 12, 2018, 08:06:47 PM
They may be pushing it, hope so but anytime you see 18" and 50 -60 mph winds you take a second look.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 12, 2018, 09:08:12 PM
(https://www.weather.gov/images/mpx/wxstory/Tab3FileL.png?538af3f0ac2aba8f4ca34174413e8d8b)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: PaulMy on April 12, 2018, 09:32:37 PM
And that is coming our way as well http://weather.gc.ca/warnings/index_e.html?prov=son

Will not enjoy,
Paul
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 13, 2018, 12:39:13 AM
The 18" here seems a little high, I looked at models and would of went with 13"-15". But hell they don't pay me for forecast.
I can see how back in the 1800's people died in blizzards....People naturally are complacent we had a 83 degree day yesterday and if it wasn't for forecast everyone would be going to school and acting like it was just a normal day tomorrow. Maybe complaining about the the pre-arctic air freezing rain and get caught in Blizzard. Just like Little House On the Prairie.   
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 13, 2018, 05:10:02 PM
Its worse than I imagined outside. I really feel for any motorist life or death outside, they are scared to death.

Visibility at airport ASOS is negative at times.  #-o
Winds on ASOS into 50+ on regularity. This is out my front door visibility if you look close you can see a fence and and garage on left.

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 13, 2018, 05:14:45 PM
There were severe storm warnings during a blizzard warning in SW Minnesota today. I believe Andy Thompson had hail today too.  Lots of snow later.

Comedy gold on twitter-my comment would be "What kind of precipitation are you getting today" Answer "yes"

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=default&q=%23mnwx&src=typd
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on April 13, 2018, 05:38:40 PM
This is one vigorous low. The Arklatex is looking at some potentially nasty tornadoes today/tonight.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WxLover16 on April 13, 2018, 05:41:18 PM
Its worse than I imagined outside. I really feel for any motorist life or death outside, they are scared to death.

Visibility at airport ASOS is negative at times.  #-o
Winds on ASOS into 50+ on regularity. This is out my front door visibility if you look close you can see a fence and and garage on left.

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How much snow do you have or is it even possible to measure right now under those extreme conditions? You're under that intense deformation band that was gonna give you most of your snow. Can't imagine how amazing it is up there right now!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 13, 2018, 06:02:58 PM
Its worse than I imagined outside. I really feel for any motorist life or death outside, they are scared to death.

Visibility at airport ASOS is negative at times.  #-o
Winds on ASOS into 50+ on regularity. This is out my front door visibility if you look close you can see a fence and and garage on left.

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How much snow do you have or is it even possible to measure right now under those extreme conditions? You're under that intense deformation band that was gonna give you most of your snow. Can't imagine how amazing it is up there right now!


Using the snowmelt at .39 and 15:1 ratio 24. I did a Cocorahs special significant report and estimated 6" new.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 13, 2018, 07:43:56 PM
Had to tell my kid not to head home from Fargo. She was not happy.
I94 is fine then BOOM white out. Then so so. I just can't risk that.

Hail in Worthington MN. Up to 1 inch.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 14, 2018, 06:49:53 AM
Well we are at 11" with 3.5 foot drifts...Internet is down probably for another day because roads closed and techs are from another town so no web data updates. I'm on phone only in meantime...Think I may go back to DSL they are still up.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 14, 2018, 07:08:01 AM
This is what it looks like. Garage is totally blocked...Nuts
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 14, 2018, 11:12:39 AM
Well, 11 is better than 18 I guess.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 14, 2018, 11:55:05 AM
My CoCoRaHS report this morning: .02" melted and could only estimate snow depth due to strong winds all night, not that .02" gives a lot of snow. Visibility did get down to 1 mile a few times after 7 a.m., and I would make an educated guess that my final total will be .5" snow.

We needed more moisture, but I imagine a lot of cow-calf operators are happy we didn't get more snow.

ValentineWeather [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 14, 2018, 12:44:40 PM
Roads closed in SW Minnesota and plows pulled. Blizzard warning extended just outside of metro area. Snowing sideways.

Days like this I don't know how the airport handles everything.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Otis on April 14, 2018, 01:04:03 PM
Snowing all around me but nothing here; yet!  We do have high winds and the Big Lake is just howling.  Just to the south of me areas have already gotten over 12 inches.  Guess one of the benefits of living so close to the Big Lake, it blows inland and dumps :-)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 14, 2018, 01:40:41 PM
Days like this I don't know how the airport handles everything.

They call in Joe Patroni


(https://armedrobbery.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/patroni.jpg)



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 14, 2018, 02:14:17 PM
watching flight tracker.
LAX to MSP landed in Fargo.
SD to MSP looks like it is on its way to Des Moines. Nope Kansas City. I swear they left SD at 6 am.

Officially Blizzard Warning in MSP. Paul Douglas says he does not remember a Blizzard Warning in the city since 1983.

More Paul Douglas Retweeted mathiowetz1
That's a great question - wish I had a great answer. Maybe our friends down at @NWSTwinCities can weigh in on this? I can't honestly remember a Blizzard Warning in April since 1983, at least in the metro.

They are using the statement "historic" Meaning it will make this the snowiest April ever!
MSP airport is diverting planes and cancelling flights like crazy. Very unMSP.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 14, 2018, 05:21:02 PM
Pat Hogan from @GreaterMSP on @wccoradio talking about airport closure. Sometimes, he said, runways closed just a few minutes. Longest he can remember is 2 hours - until today. Says in his 17 years, this is the longest time runways have been closed! #mnwx #AprilBlizzard #onlyinmnMark J. Westpfahl added,
MSP Airport
Verified account
 
@mspairport
Due to a lack of visibility and the fast rate of snowfall, no flights are currently taking off or landing at MSP. We're hoping to resume flight operations by 7 p.m.
4:17 PM - 14 Apr 2018
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: alanb on April 14, 2018, 05:52:14 PM
I am glad this storm is not coming as far south as east central IA. It kind of reminds me of the terrible April blizzard we had here back in 1973. I was blocked in from April 10 thru 14 and ran out of milk and other groceries with a baby and a toddler in the house. It took me a full day to dig my car out of the drive and I just finished when the snow plow finally came thru my neighborhood.

The forecasting, though not perfect, has sure improved since then!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 14, 2018, 06:15:17 PM
Long days and warm ground won't say around long but it sure was nasty for over 24 hours it howled on. My first real Blizzard. Digging out my garage was fun today.
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 14, 2018, 06:22:22 PM


We needed more moisture, but I imagine a lot of cow-calf operators are happy we didn't get more snow.



Spoke with cousin rancher they haven't found any dead calf's yet but the cold takes so much energy out of them it weakens immune system they said. IDK if true, but its a big area they may still find once the snow melts back.


Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on April 14, 2018, 06:22:40 PM
Wow. I haven't experienced anything like that since 1980, believe it or not, in Norfolk Va., and don't want to again........
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 14, 2018, 06:23:38 PM
Canby Minnesota talking 19-23 inches.
(http://[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaxspBMWkAY7pix.jpg)[/img]
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 14, 2018, 06:26:27 PM
Canby Minnesota talking 19-23 inches.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaxspBMWkAY7pix.jpg)

Snow map
https://t.co/3PEGPEdxSW
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 14, 2018, 06:55:38 PM
This was video clip of some brave dedicated soul swapping out Coco gauge yesterday.  :lol:

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WxLover16 on April 14, 2018, 07:41:23 PM
This was video clip of some brave dedicated soul swapping out Coco gauge yesterday.  :lol:


IDK why but to me that is a scene straight out of Fargo, lol.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 14, 2018, 07:51:45 PM
That was the second attempt first time they had to turn around because couldn't breath so wrapped a scarf around nose and mouth. What you can't see is the 3-4 foot drift of snow you plow through getting there. The drifts are out of camera and closer to house.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on April 14, 2018, 08:36:21 PM
That was the second attempt first time they had to turn around because couldn't breath so wrapped a scarf around nose and mouth. What you can't see is the 3-4 foot drift of snow you plow through getting there. The drifts are out of camera and closer to house.
Jeez, I wonder how you knew they couldn't breathe :?: :lol:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WxLover16 on April 14, 2018, 08:54:31 PM
That was the second attempt first time they had to turn around because couldn't breath so wrapped a scarf around nose and mouth. What you can't see is the 3-4 foot drift of snow you plow through getting there. The drifts are out of camera and closer to house.
Jeez, I wonder how you knew they couldn't breathe :?: :lol:

He's just that good  :lol:

Seriously tho, enjoy the blizzard while it's there. I know mid April sun will destroy it in no time. How big does this compare to previous blizzards/storms in mid April there? I know it's gotta rank top 3 maybe? Kinda funny to think I'm a big giddy about seeing mid 30s monday morning and he has a foot on the ground with several foot drifts. Perspectives!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 14, 2018, 09:03:30 PM
Daily in ND and Minnesota
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 15, 2018, 10:04:25 AM
Redwood Falls MN
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da1CcbxVQAAtUNL.jpg)

I have had about 14. I am sure my cone has a nice full amount. Won't know until tomorrow. My road has not been plowed yet.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 15, 2018, 10:58:42 AM
How big does this compare to previous blizzards/storms in mid April there? I know it's gotta rank top 3 maybe?

Not sure but cousin said its been years back in childhood. They've found about 20 dead calves now and expect more.
It was a record low this morning, I had 6F (-14C).
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 15, 2018, 05:27:23 PM
It's snowing again.
2-4" Today
possible 4" Wednesday.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WxLover16 on April 15, 2018, 07:41:18 PM
Redwood Falls MN
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da1CcbxVQAAtUNL.jpg)

I have had about 14. I am sure my cone has a nice full amount. Won't know until tomorrow. My road has not been plowed yet.

Interesting how there are bare spots on some parts of the roofs in the distance. I assume that's due to wind blowing it off. Crazy pic!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 15, 2018, 07:47:17 PM
Only 4 of the 15 days of April so far have not been 'below normal'.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 15, 2018, 08:23:54 PM
It was windy. Windier in SW/Western minnesota than here. 45 mph gusts-so I would guess sustained of +20.

For me-wind out the the NE. My deck facing North has little snow. my neighbor across the street, deck faces west. Out of the wind.  2 feet of snow on the deck.

Crazy stuff.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 16, 2018, 12:16:26 PM
It's 39 and freaking snowing.  Very light flurries you can barely see, but it's still snow.


They say you'll know 'obscene' when you see it.  This is it.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on April 16, 2018, 01:58:25 PM
Monday morning Oklahoma City TIED THE RECORD LOW of 31, set back in 1921! Normal low is 50 degrees!

OKC TV weather people are getting excited about rain possibly
 coming back to Oklahoma on Saturday.  Most of the state may get at least an inch of rain.  It's needed to keep drought from establishing itself in central Oklahoma and dent heavy drought already well established in western Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 16, 2018, 02:48:09 PM
Our record low for the 16th was 27 (1962).  We dropped to 34, so missed that one. 

Record low for the 17th is 29 (1951) and we're forecast for 34 again.  They've been a little high on those, so we could come close to the record in the morning.


Record cold high is probably in the bag though.  Record was 49 (1993) and we're only at 38 so far.


Normals are 47 and 70, so our high today could be well below our normal low.


Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 16, 2018, 08:16:06 PM
I am going to post a few things from this Spring storm. I know pics from Twitter do not embed well but we have had an historic April snow.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da7pZsTX4Ac6cQ_.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da8G2PpX4AA9ZXq.jpg)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 16, 2018, 08:18:19 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da8GaRFXcAAjkws.jpg)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 16, 2018, 08:20:13 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Da7ThoLXUAY-659.jpg)
https://twitter.com/NWSTwinCities/status/985985579417522176 (https://twitter.com/NWSTwinCities/status/985985579417522176)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 16, 2018, 08:21:57 PM
This is a link to the radar loop for the weekend. Could not embed it

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/985985579417522176
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on April 16, 2018, 08:23:09 PM
Oh yeah, more snow Wednesday 1-3 here. up to 5 in Southern Minnesota.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 16, 2018, 08:42:19 PM
Or not.  Sun broke out and the winds died long enough to hit 50 for a few minutes just before 6PM.

'Missed it by THAT much!'

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 17, 2018, 12:33:54 PM
I've got some damage from blizzard here. The storm blew snow through attic vent (larger size ) into attic, so now have ceiling tiles falling down or drooping from moisture about dozen 12x12".

Course this happens at the greatest of times NOT, when getting ready to leave for sons wedding.  My Insurance agent came by and said he would help out with replacing tiles. Didn't think making a claim with $1000 deductible was necessary so feel better about it.
 
Probably only couple hundred $ damage including replacing the 2 attic vents which are open to far so it doesn't happen again.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 17, 2018, 02:15:53 PM
Blizzard summary from North Platte NWS FO :
https://www.weather.gov/lbf/April2018Blizzard

How often does this occur in summary: This was the first Blizzard Warning issued in the month of April by NWS North Platte since 2011.

Pick wind gust at ASOS valentine was 64 MPH
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 18, 2018, 02:15:19 PM
It is now officially SPRING without any doubt.  I was out filling the bird feeders and spotted the first Hummingbird of the year.  Had to quick go mix up some nectar to fill their feeders.

YAY!!!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WxLover16 on April 18, 2018, 04:58:16 PM
Talk about 2 seasons in 2 days. Yesterday morning my low was 33.2 (but was 27.7 in a nearby valley) and today's high was 83.9. This must be kind of what the desert feels like with gusts to 25mph, humidity down near 20% and low/mid 80s.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on April 18, 2018, 06:05:32 PM
This must be kind of what the desert feels like with humidity down near 20%
20%? That's monsoon season! :-)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WxLover16 on April 19, 2018, 10:11:23 PM
This must be kind of what the desert feels like with humidity down near 20%
20%? That's monsoon season! :-)

lol Touche! Humidity rarely dips below 20% here, and I don't think my weather station has ever recorded below 10% (almost certain). It would be interesting to live in your climate when it's in the 110s (and have a station and a fan to record the most accuracy as you do!). I can't even imagine what that must feel like!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 20, 2018, 10:28:57 AM
It takes some getting used to. I'm in Vegas now and my sinuses are all plugged up from the dry air.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on April 20, 2018, 03:39:23 PM
This must be kind of what the desert feels like with humidity down near 20%
20%? That's monsoon season! :-)

lol Touche! Humidity rarely dips below 20% here,  I can't even imagine what that must feel like!
I grew up in humid climates, but haven't lived in one since 1986 and have no intention of doing so, at least for now. Mostly, I love dry air. When I'm outside, at least I can seek shade from the sun. You can't seek shade from humidity. ;)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on April 21, 2018, 08:36:08 AM
Welcomed precipitation in liquid, not frozen, form. 32 hundredths. Grass looking greener this morning.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: zackdog on April 21, 2018, 09:55:42 AM
Just reported my largest snowfall for the Winter to CoCoRaHS at 5.5".  Winter total finally got over 100". 

Mark
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 22, 2018, 11:52:53 AM
The perceived Seasonal Shift continues.  I've opined in the past that Spring seems cooler later and Fall seems warmer later. I've seen higher temperatures in October, sometimes into November and cooler temperatures in March and April.  So far, with less than 10 days to go, April is running about 8 degrees cool.  Average to this point is 49.6, which is closer to March's average of 48 than April's average of  56.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on April 23, 2018, 06:15:15 AM
"Seasonally cool temps will continue due to clouds/rain. While
there will be a couple periods for potentially better clearing,
namely Tuesday night and Wednesday night, overall, there will be
more clouds than not through the mid week."


Well, ain't that just Ducky!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WxLover16 on April 24, 2018, 07:49:50 PM
We just had a very wet couple of days in North GA. Atlanta set a new daily rainfall record yesterday with 4.16". I recieved 4.28" since the 22nd. Not too shabby! Yards are nice and green now! Need this rain before "popcorn" season sets in (around early June) when a mile away can get a couple quick inches and here it is dry. It's also what I like to call feast or famine season.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 01, 2018, 05:36:42 AM
April 2018 ended as the coldest on record in Cape Girardeau, MO. It also ranked as the 2nd coldest in Evansville, IN and the 3rd coldest in Paducah, KY.

--  WFO  PAH

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 01, 2018, 08:19:53 AM
We ended 7.5 below normal for April.
 
Blizzard damage from snow blowing through attic vents ended up being less than originally estimated. Took 7 hrs labor to remove and replace wet attic insulation this included replacing ceiling tiles inside house damaged.  Have the new attic vents coming today, hopefully this doesn't happen again.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 01, 2018, 08:30:24 AM
My insurance agent said I wasn't the only one with damage, many homes and much larger buildings around town with same type of damage. Amazing what 40-60 mph winds will do lasting 24 hours blowing snow though every crevice and crack.  Now I'm starting to see why our insurance premiums are so high here.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: gwwilk on May 01, 2018, 01:28:24 PM
Ironically, we've experienced severe blowing dust (https://www.google.com/search?q=nebraska+dust+storm&oq=nebraska+dust+storm&aqs=chrome..69i57.4679j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) here in SE Nebraska over the past two days reminiscent of the 1930's.  Two multi-vehicle pileups occurred on I-80 due to visibility issues.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 01, 2018, 02:04:06 PM
I saw that even made the local news out of Phoenix so must of went national. Images of crash looked bad.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 01, 2018, 03:06:04 PM
April 2018

Temp:
AVERAGE MONTHLY: 52.3     
DPTR FM NORMAL:  -5.7   


Precip:
TOTAL FOR MONTH:   6.73
DPTR FM NORMAL:    1.97
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on May 01, 2018, 03:17:23 PM
We're progged to "break the ice on the Santa Cruz river" Sunday, about three weeks ahead of average.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on May 01, 2018, 10:39:33 PM
And BOOM the storms kick in.
Silver dollar size hail in central iowa
a lot of funnels and hail in NE, IA, MO, MN, KS.

Meanwhile in Minneapolis, Lake Minnetonka still has 15 inches of ice in places.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 02, 2018, 10:00:49 AM
SPC Moderate Risk:  Kansas, Missouri

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on May 02, 2018, 03:35:25 PM
I have been experiencing some different climates the last week. Saw ice on Minnesota lakes while landing at MSP. Enjoyed Tidewater Virginia for a few days with the dogwoods and azaleas in full bloom, and came home to a dust storm. Yesterday I watched the severe storms pop 20 miles east of us. A weatherful week!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 07, 2018, 04:34:02 AM
Had a funky feeling.  April was near record cold, top 3 coolest Aprils on record.  Something like 20 days were below normal.

May is almost opposite.  Every day so far has been above normal and the forecasts are calling for near 90 this week.  Not sure I'm looking forward to July and August.



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 11, 2018, 02:56:22 PM
Strange wind last night after the thunderstorms had exited area, it had been raining for over an hour steady and just before the rain completely stopped we had strong ESE wind pick up gusting to 77 mph at airport. Really not sure what the meteorological explanation is/was. Closest TS was 40-50 miles toward east. Also temperatures were very cool low 40's during event.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 11, 2018, 06:33:57 PM
Cheesy graphic put up by our WFO comedians

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 17, 2018, 10:01:11 PM
2 state impressive thunderstorm line tonight.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on May 18, 2018, 04:12:39 AM
2 state impressive thunderstorm line tonight.

Any damage/power lines as a result of the squall line?

There has been a big slug of rainfall just east where I am with an upper level system the last several days. Just unusually hot and humid for this time of year here in WV. Average high temperature is in the mid 70s this time of year but we've been in the low 90s several days.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 18, 2018, 07:12:51 AM
Didn't hear of any damage but to be honest don't listen to scanner or local radio. I'll report back if I hear anything today. Ended up with 1.36" with my other gauge east side town 1.50" (Cocorahs gauges) so impressive amounts around 7" per hour rate with main rain band. No hail observed here anyway....
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on May 18, 2018, 09:07:11 AM
Didn't hear of any damage but to be honest don't listen to scanner or local radio. I'll report back if I hear anything today. Ended up with 1.36" with my other gauge east side town 1.50" (Cocorahs gauges) so impressive amounts around 7" per hour rate with main rain band. No hail observed here anyway....

Maybe soon you will have more volunteers in your county to see discrepancies in precipitation. Three isn't a lot - do you normally have more than that?
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 18, 2018, 09:38:34 AM
Just the 4 Cherry county. Plenty call in to local radio station however... :roll:
South Dakota has a few just across border. 
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on May 18, 2018, 10:04:43 AM
Just the 4 Cherry county.

When I lived in the county east of me before the historic flood in our region (Clay), I was the only report in the whole county. There are about 8 dedicated reporters in the county that I live in now (despite my I.D. being 27). I felt like my report in the county with no reports was pretty neat - I really hope more folks invest in giving CoCoRaHS a shot. It's a fun hobby and pretty inexpensive and does a lot of good both locally and for study purposes.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on May 19, 2018, 04:29:46 PM
I am the only CoCoRaHS observer in this county, despite the #6 designation. The others haven't been active for several years. County is about 900 sq. miles. I wish there were more observers.

Great news!  3.19" in 24 hrs, 2.69" of that in less than 4 hrs last night. Beautiful. No hail, no strong winds. My CoCoRaHS total was among the highest, but agrees with the Co-op station in town 6 miles away. Most of this area of the state got at least some needed rainfall, but we won the lottery.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 19, 2018, 05:39:55 PM
Very nice soaker for you guys.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on May 20, 2018, 07:08:41 AM
Speaking of rain, 6 days in a row down here. It's amazing how when the rainy season starts, it really starts.
Also models picking up on a tropical disturbance for this coming Friday. Shear parameters are a bit high at this point for significant development but tropical storm conditions are possible.
Placement at this point is either the east coast, west coast, or right up the spine of Florida.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on May 20, 2018, 08:17:32 AM
Also models picking up on a tropical disturbance for this coming Friday. Shear parameters are a bit high at this point for significant development but tropical storm conditions are possible.

I think it is supposed to be an above average season, hopefully that doesn't pan out for you and everyone down there on the coastline.

It had been bone dry here in WV, but we finally got a good frog choker for a little bit yesterday evening with 0.36" in about 15 minutes. Folks along the Dan and Appomattox rivers further east in Virginia are seeing some serious flooding issues as a result of the same system.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 20, 2018, 09:07:57 AM
We went from a month of cold and wet to a week or more of hot and dry to hot and wet over the last few days.

I have no idea what to expect from this Summer.


For temperatures,
January was below normal
February was above normal
March was below normal (barely)
April was well below normal
Unless something changes, May will be well above normal.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on May 20, 2018, 09:21:51 AM
We went from a month of cold and wet to a week or more of hot and dry to hot and wet over the last few days.

I have no idea what to expect from this Summer.


For temperatures,
January was below normal
February was above normal
March was below normal (barely)
April was well below normal
Unless something changes, May will be well above normal.

Very similar for me as well. April was in our top 10 coldest months and we are on pace to be about 5th warmest for May.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 20, 2018, 09:45:24 AM
Here upper plains below normal temps on year -3.6F, rain above normal 1". All months this year have been below normal temps exception is May which is incomplete on data.
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on May 21, 2018, 08:26:27 PM
6.72 inches of rain this morning in about 4 hours.
That puts me at 10.77 for May. Average is about 3.85.
Will definitely add to that total this week and especially this weekend when some kind of tropical disturbance is supposed to come this way. 
Was almost #1 in the country in Cocorahs but someone in Texas had 7.05. :-(
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on May 22, 2018, 03:11:07 AM
6.72 inches of rain this morning in about 4 hours.
That puts me at 10.77 for May. Average is about 3.85.
Will definitely add to that total this week and especially this weekend when some kind of tropical disturbance is supposed to come this way. 
Was almost #1 in the country in Cocorahs but someone in Texas had 7.05. :-(

 :shock: :shock: Did you experience any flooding? That kind of total would wreck my town.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 22, 2018, 06:05:30 AM
6.72 inches of rain this morning in about 4 hours.
That puts me at 10.77 for May. Average is about 3.85.
Will definitely add to that total this week and especially this weekend when some kind of tropical disturbance is supposed to come this way. 
Was almost #1 in the country in Cocorahs but someone in Texas had 7.05. :-(

Impressive especially for such a short time period.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on May 22, 2018, 07:49:52 AM
6.72 inches of rain this morning in about 4 hours.
That puts me at 10.77 for May. Average is about 3.85.
Will definitely add to that total this week and especially this weekend when some kind of tropical disturbance is supposed to come this way. 
Was almost #1 in the country in Cocorahs but someone in Texas had 7.05. :-(

Impressive especially for such a short time period.

That's an average radar return of 49 decibels over the four hours.  :shock:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on May 22, 2018, 05:02:16 PM
6.72 inches of rain this morning in about 4 hours.
That puts me at 10.77 for May. Average is about 3.85.
Will definitely add to that total this week and especially this weekend when some kind of tropical disturbance is supposed to come this way. 
Was almost #1 in the country in Cocorahs but someone in Texas had 7.05. :-(

 :shock: :shock: Did you experience any flooding? That kind of total would wreck my town.
No flooding at all Joseph. The soil is all sand.
Anywhere else that's a major flash flood.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on May 22, 2018, 05:21:53 PM
And with that, we're at 83 days without rain and triple digits look very doable at this point. If it doesn't rain before the monsoon sets up, and that's very likely as this is our driest time of year here, we'll break the all time record of 114 days.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 22, 2018, 07:22:45 PM
Been a few times recently where I look at radar, see no echoes, go outside to do something and it starts pouring.  When I come back in to look at radar to see how I missed it, I can see that the storm developed right over me.  One scan has no echoes, the very next two or three show the sudden pop-up to yellows.


Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on May 22, 2018, 07:42:56 PM
Been a few times recently where I look at radar, see no echoes, go outside to do something and it starts pouring.  When I come back in to look at radar to see how I missed it, I can see that the storm developed right over me.  One scan has no echoes, the very next two or three show the sudden pop-up to yellows.
Pulse storm. They are the most common type here during monsoon.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on May 23, 2018, 04:57:01 AM
Been a few times recently where I look at radar, see no echoes, go outside to do something and it starts pouring.  When I come back in to look at radar to see how I missed it, I can see that the storm developed right over me.  One scan has no echoes, the very next two or three show the sudden pop-up to yellows.

Had that very instance take place yesterday evening - it has caused some flash flooding in some areas close by to me. I picked up about 2/3" of rain in about 20 minutes from one.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 24, 2018, 11:21:12 PM
Funnel cloud today from cemetery. Not my photo there is also a video.
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 25, 2018, 08:29:14 AM
Total, unequivocal flip.  Only a few days in April were near or above 'normal'.  So far, every day in May has been above 'normal.  Hoping for less of the same for June.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 25, 2018, 09:05:49 AM
Warm May here too not record but above normal couple degrees, wet also...Summer temps are kicking in this Memorial weekend 90's.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on May 26, 2018, 03:37:15 PM
Unfortunately sub-tropical Alberto will be going to my west. Man, it could have been a great weekend. AFD even mentions the possibility of a dry slot moving up from the south that would limit rain chances.
Dam, so close. :-( 
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 26, 2018, 05:23:26 PM
The warm, the Sun, the rain maketh the grass grow fast.  The gas prices maketh the pocket empty fast.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 27, 2018, 08:33:59 PM
Lots of statements tonight for only 30% chance.
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WxLover16 on May 27, 2018, 09:51:50 PM
Subtropical storm Alberto is headed for my area. Apparently about 3-4" is forecast. Gonna be a wet period coming up.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on May 28, 2018, 04:47:09 PM
high of 101.7 today.   Low was -13.3 on Jan 1.
So a 115 degree difference in 6 months.


Six weeks ago-the lakes were covered in ice and we had 20 inches of snow.


Storms moving in from the south. up I-35.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 28, 2018, 04:50:32 PM
That is a heatwave for sure. Bet 100 degree days are rare in Minnesota.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on May 28, 2018, 04:54:06 PM
True. Especially this early.

Copied from a weatherman tweet

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The Twin Cities hit 100 at 2:16 pm. This is the first 100 day since July 6, 2012. This is only the 2nd time a 100 temperature has been recorded in the Twin Cities in the month of May (106 - May 31, 1934)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on May 28, 2018, 05:26:37 PM
I am impressed. Thought our 100 on 26 May was noteworthy, but you win the golden thermometer award for this spring.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Jstx on May 28, 2018, 09:44:17 PM
Y'all should try South Texas (or other regions) lately. A relatively mild winter and early spring gave way to hellacious conditions.
The temps have been in the upper 90-106degF for weeks, with high dewpoints driving the Heat Index even higher. It's going to bump up 4-8 degrees in the next week.
It has been cooling overnight into the upper 70's, but we're creeping into the times when that low will stay in the 80-90's.
The Gulf of Mexico surf temps are in the mid 80's too, so it may be another hot hurricane season around here (after Harvey last fall).

It's not even summer yet, and per the NOAA Climate Table/All Time Records Summary, things tend to peak out in August and September, so it may be a rough ride. May has been running a max temp of 6-12 degF above the normal (1984-2010 per table).
Lots of older and poorer people don't even have A/C, expect the mortality numbers to go way up.

Abnormal and atypical even for down here.

https://www.weather.gov/crp/observations

https://www.weather.gov/media/ewx/climate/ClimateTable-ewx-SanAntonio.pdf

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on May 28, 2018, 10:15:50 PM
Although not extraordinary this time of year here, we'll be in the upper 100's as the week progresses. I never post about the record cold here, because there never is any, just record heat. How many 115F+ days will we have this year....
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on May 28, 2018, 10:35:06 PM
drop in temps

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: jas340 on May 28, 2018, 10:51:28 PM
It hit 76 F here today in foothills N of Boise. We put the A/C on all day for the first time. I've been sleeping with my heavy down comforter every night. Will have to put it away soon. It is "always" cold and rainy Memorial day weekend. The sun was out all day and the Sun's intensity was too much for us!!!!

Most of my adult life has been lived in Phoenix, AZ area. I've had enough heat for a lifetime!!!!!!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 29, 2018, 01:36:37 AM
It hit 76 F here today in foothills N of Boise. We put the A/C on all day for the first time.

I have one small window unit I didn't put in this year until just a few days ago after a string of upper 80s and low 90s.  I keep it set for around 78-80 or so and I try to only run it for a few hours in the early evening to dry the air a bit to make sleeping easier.  My bank account isn't fond of running it all day.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on May 29, 2018, 08:04:15 AM
Not to change the subject of heat, which will be the main story this summer I am afraid, but we picked up 2.85" of precip in the 24 hrs ending 6:40 a.m. today. That's nowhere near what some stations in this part of KS have reported (up to 5 inches south of here), but it was a nice rain. that makes 6.36" for May. That is above normal.

Just put up the VP2 Sunday, so it was nice to have some rain and see how it worked. The Davis will be back up to my CoCoRaHS gauge.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on May 29, 2018, 08:43:12 AM
I've seen no mention of Alberto on here so thought I'd give a few tidbits.  Basically a non-event TS/hurricane-wise for south central Alabama.  I recorded a little over 2.6" of rain from it and high wind here roughly 90 miles inland was recorded at 26mph in the wee hours of this morning.  The path of the storm came more or less directly over us.  I appeared that east Alabama and west Georgia probably got more rain than we did, plus the system in northern Georgia looked pretty intense.  We're still getting very light rain this morning but we have forecasts for more rain today (and for the next several days).  The ground is pretty much saturated so we surely don't need high wind to topple trees, so hopefully no surprise t-storms (though they are in the forecast).  Lost power this morning around 1:30...stayed out long enough for the battery on BeeWeather's laptop to die so I had to reboot this morning.  #-o 

We have a flash flood watch in effect till early this evening...seems like our county is primarily at ground zero for that.  I also see that the Conecuh River south of us by about 40 miles has risen over 12' in the last ten hours...it's predicted to crest just slightly above flood stage (37')...it's currently at 17.28'.

My garden still needs weeding...  :roll:

(https://garden.org/pics/2018-05-29/Intheswamp/a7f219.jpg)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on May 29, 2018, 09:03:22 AM
A few graphs showing when Alberto passed through the neighborhood.
Wind direction is kind of interesting...

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/878/42430753301_36791ab437_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/27DsGG6)2018_AlbertoBaroPressureGraph (https://flic.kr/p/27DsGG6) by Intheswamp (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71532701@N07/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1723/40622890650_9ff042024e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/24TGW7o)2018_AlbertoRainGraph (https://flic.kr/p/24TGW7o) by Intheswamp (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71532701@N07/), on Flickr

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1744/41528286775_32a96981b4_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26gHjQp)2018_AlbertoWindGraph (https://flic.kr/p/26gHjQp) by Intheswamp (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71532701@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 29, 2018, 03:07:03 PM
^^  We were supposed to be pretty much wet and windy all day from that.  Predictions were for 3" of rain or so, Flash Flood Watches and Warnings posted etc.

We've had a few passing showers from the bands, but nothing steady (so far).  Even had a few minutes of Sun between them.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on May 29, 2018, 04:42:20 PM
I think Alberto is pretty much a fizzle.  The sun has been breaking through and shining sporadically all afternoon...hot and humid, well only in the low-80's but 80% humidity tends to make it "interesting".  #-o

Lots of clouds floating around, though...it "looks" like it might do "something"...
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 30, 2018, 03:14:14 AM
CoC almost over me.  Pressure showing 29.13

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 30, 2018, 05:23:26 AM
timeanddate.com has a two week projection for weather for your local area.  I don't know where they get their data, but they're showing a significant cool down (60/75) for two weeks out, the week starting 6/10.  Anybody else seeing anything similar on forecast sites you watch?
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 30, 2018, 07:14:01 AM
Side note ...  the roughly two inches of rain topped my pool off nicely.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 30, 2018, 12:49:07 PM
Knowing where the center is, roughly 100 miles NNE of me now, I can look up at the clouds and see a definite rotation towards that direction.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on May 30, 2018, 01:51:26 PM
timeanddate.com has a two week projection for weather for your local area.  I don't know where they get their data, but they're showing a significant cool down (60/75) for two weeks out, the week starting 6/10.  Anybody else seeing anything similar on forecast sites you watch?

NWS is pointing at cooler air for the eastern 2/3 including where you are at. That'd be a nice break. I'll have my hottest May on record by a decent margin.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 31, 2018, 05:18:37 PM
Good chance of super cell development, enhanced risk along HW 83 tomorrow runs N to S center of state.  NAM has 4800 J kg locally with dew points near 70 supporting rapid development.  Might have a interesting evening tomorrow.

FSO Discussion:  stretch from
about Valentine to North Platte. There is a good chance for some
severe thunderstorm activity as the surface winds pick up from the
south and advect in some upper 60 to low 70 degree dewpoints into
the region, with the highest values along and east of Highway 83.
Off the surface, winds will be veering from the west from 25 to
50kt which will likely lead to rapid supercell development once
the cap is eroded. Large hail over 2 inches in diameter and severe
wind gusts are possible with initial development, a brief tornado
can never be ruled out.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on May 31, 2018, 05:31:14 PM
Knowing where the center is, roughly 100 miles NNE of me now, I can look up at the clouds and see a definite rotation towards that direction.
When ever we get tropical activity down here and I start seeing the rotation of the clouds, man that just gets my heart pumping.
Like a kid in a candy store.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on May 31, 2018, 05:32:45 PM
Good chance of super cell development, enhanced risk along HW 83 tomorrow runs N to S center of state.  NAM has 4800 J kg locally with dew points near 70 supporting rapid development.  Might have a interesting evening tomorrow.

FSO Discussion:  stretch from
about Valentine to North Platte. There is a good chance for some
severe thunderstorm activity as the surface winds pick up from the
south and advect in some upper 60 to low 70 degree dewpoints into
the region, with the highest values along and east of Highway 83.
Off the surface, winds will be veering from the west from 25 to
50kt which will likely lead to rapid supercell development once
the cap is eroded. Large hail over 2 inches in diameter and severe
wind gusts are possible with initial development, a brief tornado
can never be ruled out.
Very interesting indeed!
Now that I have my geography straight I'll be checking in on ya.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 31, 2018, 05:34:31 PM
I'm havin' one tonight.  Boomers rollin' in.

I hate boomers.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 31, 2018, 06:03:02 PM
Good chance of super cell development, enhanced risk along HW 83 tomorrow runs N to S center of state.  NAM has 4800 J kg locally with dew points near 70 supporting rapid development.  Might have a interesting evening tomorrow.

FSO Discussion:  stretch from
about Valentine to North Platte. There is a good chance for some
severe thunderstorm activity as the surface winds pick up from the
south and advect in some upper 60 to low 70 degree dewpoints into
the region, with the highest values along and east of Highway 83.
Off the surface, winds will be veering from the west from 25 to
50kt which will likely lead to rapid supercell development once
the cap is eroded. Large hail over 2 inches in diameter and severe
wind gusts are possible with initial development, a brief tornado
can never be ruled out.
Very interesting indeed!
Now that I have my geography straight I'll be checking in on ya.

LOL, tomorrow night they are saying...
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 31, 2018, 06:12:42 PM
Did you guys hear we may have the lowest tornado output in 1/2 century or more at current trend. Don't remember exact numbers but we are way down and its been a trend over last decade of less tornado activity. 
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on May 31, 2018, 06:33:31 PM
Did you guys hear we may have the lowest tornado output in 1/2 century or more at current trend. Don't remember exact numbers but we are way down and its been a trend over last decade of less tornado activity.
I had not, but recent trend certainly supports it...so far. The last really active seasons I remember was 2011 when the EF5 took out Joplin, and the EF4 through Tuscaloosa. Then in 2013, with the EF5 in Moore (again) and EF3 El Reno tornado which actually had doppler confirmed EF5 winds, just no damage to support the rating.
Been very quite of late.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on May 31, 2018, 06:37:00 PM
I've only heard that the season is slower than expected, but no numbers or comparisons.  'Course as we speak there are a few warnings.  Our county had one a few weeks ago that ripped a few buildings apart.

New forecasts are calling for a slow Hurricane season too, but who knows.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Jstx on May 31, 2018, 09:09:29 PM
The CPC has a Seasonal Outlook for 2018 mid-term which is predicting 'daily average temperatures' (presume that 'min lows', etc., will be higher too) of up to +12degF for much of the West, SW, and MidWest. At the same time the Precip Outlook is lower.
So, higher temps, less rain, would likely minimize tornado formation, along with other forms of terrestrial severe WX while exacerbating the drought.
This is not a good thing, long term. NSTACCT...

Around here we've been getting higher temps than normal (6-12degF) for a couple of months, after a fairly mild, and comfortably cool, winter and spring. This early +100degF sucks.

TPC has a TS forming near the Yucatan in the next week or two, then tracking NW towards the West Gulf, sounds like Texas to me. Our blocking high may shift out by then (haven't looked at any models yet), which would open the door.
These type tracking TS's often intensify before landfall, so ruh-oh batten down the hatches. Gulf SST/seawater temperatures are and have been quite high for months so cyclones have plenty of fuel out there.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on May 31, 2018, 09:52:55 PM
Tornadoes does look way down for 2018. Weather segment I saw yesterday ( Think it was a storm chaser site complaining ) said we would need 100 tornadoes before end of month (only few days left ) or near levels not seen since the 50's.
 
What I found here from NOAA May 24th.
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Jstx on May 31, 2018, 10:46:18 PM
That TStats sure does have 2018 way down. ENSO/El Nino factors into what I read.
I've looked for the text report that had that +12degF above 'daily avg temp' and can't find it on a tab, I'll poke around in the browser history. It was part of an extended text forecast.
I don't doubt because we've been living it for weeks now.
Even the teevee WX jocks are now mentioning that things have been/are way above the averages lately and will continue. We don't usually get into the periodic excessive temp multi-day/week stretches until late July-September.

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/multi_season/13_seasonal_outlooks/color/t.gif

https://www.weather.gov/hun/climateforecast

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/poe_index.php?lead=1&var=t

http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/90day/fxus05.html
"PROGNOSTIC DISCUSSION FOR LONG-LEAD SEASONAL OUTLOOKS
NWS CLIMATE PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
830 AM EDT THU MAY 17 2018
 
SUMMARY OF THE OUTLOOK FOR NON-TECHNICAL USERS
 
ENSO NEUTRAL CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED INTO SUMMER 2018 WITH A GROWING CHANCE OF
EL NINO BY FALL AND WINTER 2018-19. THE JUNE-AUGUST (JJA) 2018 TEMPERATURE
OUTLOOK FAVORS ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES OVER MUCH OF THE CONTIGUOUS UNITED
STATES (CONUS), THE EXCEPTION BEING THE VICINITY THE CENTRAL AND NORTHERN
PLAINS AND THE MIDWEST, WHERE EQUAL CHANCES (EC) OF BELOW, NEAR, AND ABOVE
NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE FAVORED. THE GREATEST PROBABILITIES REACH OR EXCEED 60%
ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE SOUTHWEST. ABOVE-NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE LIKEWISE
FAVORED OVER ALASKA, WITH THE LOWEST PROBABILITIES OVER CENTRAL MAINLAND ALASKA.
 
THE JJA 2018 PRECIPITATION OUTLOOK FAVORS ABOVE NORMAL PRECIPITATION OVER MOST
OF MAINLAND ALASKA AND MUCH OF THE EASTERN CONUS. ABOVE NORMAL RAINFALL IS ALSO
FAVORED OVER PARTS OF THE CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES WHILE BELOW NORMAL
PRECIPITATION IS FAVORED FOR PARTS OF THE NORTHWEST.
 
IN SUBSEQUENT LEADS THE INCREASED ODDS OF EL NINO ARE FACTORED INTO THE
TEMPERATURE AND PRECIPITATION OUTLOOKS. GENERALLY, THIS IS MANIFEST IN TERMS OF
PROBABILITIES BEING SHIFTED TOWARD WETTER AND COOLER OUTCOMES ACROSS THE
SOUTHERN TIER OF THE U.S. IN THE FALL AND WINTER RELATIVE TO PREVIOUS OUTLOOKS.
LIKEWISE, ODDS OF ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE SLIGHTLY INCREASED ACROSS THE
NORTHERN U.S., ESPECIALLY FROM SON THROUGH JFM.
 
EQUAL CHANCES (EC) ARE FORECAST IN AREAS WHERE CLIMATOLOGICAL PROBABILITIES ARE
INDICATED FOR SEASONAL MEAN TEMPERATURES AND SEASONAL ACCUMULATED PRECIPITATION
AMOUNTS.
 
BASIS AND SUMMARY OF THE CURRENT LONG-LEAD OUTLOOKS
NOTE: FOR GRAPHICAL DISPLAYS OF THE FORECAST TOOLS DISCUSSED BELOW SEE:
HTTP://WWW.CPC.NCEP.NOAA.GOV/PRODUCTS/PREDICTIONS/90DAY/TOOLS/BRIEFING
 
CURRENT ATMOSPHERIC AND OCEANIC CONDITIONS "
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 01, 2018, 03:47:06 AM
Final for May '18

Code: [Select]
[TEMPERATURE DATA]      [PRECIPITATION DATA]       

AVERAGE MONTHLY: 75.4   TOTAL FOR MONTH:   6.25   
DPTR FM NORMAL:   8.2   DPTR FM NORMAL:    1.31

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 01, 2018, 05:17:03 AM
Convection outlook for supercell development shifted east some 50-80 miles for today which I'm fine with. Ended being abnormal warm for May +5.5. First above normal month this year, rainfall also above normal on year and month. Crops should be doing very well.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on June 01, 2018, 05:23:17 AM
Tornadoes does look way down for 2018. Weather segment I saw yesterday ( Think it was a storm chaser site complaining ) said we would need 100 tornadoes before end of month (only few days left ) or near levels not seen since the 50's.
 
What I found here from NOAA May 24th.
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Wow, good find. I didn't realize that May had been so quiet. There were 3 or 4 just reported in Idaho yesterday.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 01, 2018, 09:19:37 AM
Yeah looks way down, don't know what we ended with but prelim numbers were very small on May 24th. Usually lose about 20% of those as actual tornadoes.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 01, 2018, 09:34:58 AM
And ALL 31 days were above normal, some by 12-13 degrees.

Forecast for next week coming into view may be back below normal for a few days.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on June 01, 2018, 12:54:27 PM
Good chance of super cell development, enhanced risk along HW 83 tomorrow runs N to S center of state.  NAM has 4800 J kg locally with dew points near 70 supporting rapid development.  Might have a interesting evening tomorrow.

FSO Discussion:  stretch from
about Valentine to North Platte. There is a good chance for some
severe thunderstorm activity as the surface winds pick up from the
south and advect in some upper 60 to low 70 degree dewpoints into
the region, with the highest values along and east of Highway 83.
Off the surface, winds will be veering from the west from 25 to
50kt which will likely lead to rapid supercell development once
the cap is eroded. Large hail over 2 inches in diameter and severe
wind gusts are possible with initial development, a brief tornado
can never be ruled out.

Just got upgraded to a moderate risk.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 01, 2018, 01:25:59 PM
Good chance of super cell development, enhanced risk along HW 83 tomorrow runs N to S center of state.  NAM has 4800 J kg locally with dew points near 70 supporting rapid development.  Might have a interesting evening tomorrow.

FSO Discussion:  stretch from
about Valentine to North Platte. There is a good chance for some
severe thunderstorm activity as the surface winds pick up from the
south and advect in some upper 60 to low 70 degree dewpoints into
the region, with the highest values along and east of Highway 83.
Off the surface, winds will be veering from the west from 25 to
50kt which will likely lead to rapid supercell development once
the cap is eroded. Large hail over 2 inches in diameter and severe
wind gusts are possible with initial development, a brief tornado
can never be ruled out.

Just got upgraded to a moderate risk.

I see that, area of focus has shifted to SE leaving area I'm in only slight risk.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on June 01, 2018, 06:29:47 PM
Ended May with 14.18 of rain.
A wet month indeed, and with the beginning of tropical season officially here could be a really wet year.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 01, 2018, 06:49:44 PM
Ground down there must be a sponge or a big wetland with water everywhere. Oh yeah its Florida.  :-)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Aardvark on June 01, 2018, 07:24:54 PM
Right now in Des Moines,iowa  the armpit of Iowa.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on June 01, 2018, 07:47:39 PM
Ended May with 14.18 of rain.
A wet month indeed, and with the beginning of tropical season officially here could be a really wet year.
Oh jeez, how many more sink holes will that create.... 8-[
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on June 01, 2018, 08:59:53 PM
Ended May with 14.18 of rain.
A wet month indeed, and with the beginning of tropical season officially here could be a really wet year.
Oh jeez, how many more sink holes will that create.... 8-[
It's been really bad in the Ocala area.
Luckily none in my immediate area but in the past 2 years I am getting some un-nerving cracks in my dry wall and the stucco on the outside of the house. Had a foundation guy come out and he said as long as you can't stick a pencil in the cracks your ok. So far I'm in good shape.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on June 01, 2018, 09:02:39 PM
Right now in Des Moines,iowa  the armpit of Iowa.
Little early for that eh?
We were at 92/105 today.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Aardvark on June 01, 2018, 09:24:53 PM
Right now in Des Moines,iowa  the armpit of Iowa.
Little early for that eh?
We were at 92/105 today.
you got me on Asthma  Friday.  The air quality is bad , and the asthma is not good.   :
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 02, 2018, 04:45:16 AM
May 2018 Climate Review: Temperatures were well above normal, ranging from 7 to 8 degrees above normal across the region. Paducah, KY observed their warmest May on record, shattering the previous record set back in 1962. Around a dozen other locations across the region also observed their warmest May on record. Cape Girardeau, MO and Evansville, IN finished as the 2nd warmest May on record, both behind 1962. Temperatures were more reminiscent of June with high temperatures consistently in the mid 80s to around 90 degrees. In fact, there have been 32 June's dating back to 1938 that have been colder than May 2018 was in Paducah, KY. In Evansville, IN there have been 37 June's dating back to 1897 that have been colder than May 2018. After a chilly April that felt more like March at times, the switch was flipped on May 1st with all 3 official climate stations registering above normal temperatures every single day of May. Looking back at previous months, it appears the last time Paducah, KY experienced a month in which every day was above normal was back in August 2007.

https://www.weather.gov/pah/May2018ClimateSummary
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 02, 2018, 04:52:21 AM
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on June 02, 2018, 06:54:08 AM
Good chance of super cell development, enhanced risk along HW 83 tomorrow runs N to S center of state.  NAM has 4800 J kg locally with dew points near 70 supporting rapid development.  Might have a interesting evening tomorrow.

FSO Discussion:  stretch from
about Valentine to North Platte. There is a good chance for some
severe thunderstorm activity as the surface winds pick up from the
south and advect in some upper 60 to low 70 degree dewpoints into
the region, with the highest values along and east of Highway 83.
Off the surface, winds will be veering from the west from 25 to
50kt which will likely lead to rapid supercell development once
the cap is eroded. Large hail over 2 inches in diameter and severe
wind gusts are possible with initial development, a brief tornado
can never be ruled out.

Just got upgraded to a moderate risk.

I see that, area of focus has shifted to SE leaving area I'm in only slight risk.
Man the was one hell of a line that formed right over you and moved east.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 02, 2018, 07:52:10 AM
Yes it did, we were right where it started, fortunately by the time storms strengthened they drifted a few miles from town. Several motel parking lots were full of storm chasers yesterday. Counted about 20 rigs, those guys are pretty good at figuring out where the action will be. A couple pics of hail nearby.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on June 02, 2018, 08:41:35 AM
WeatherHost, I like that graphic.

ValentineWeather, I watched that on radar. You might have gotten lucky. It looked wicked in central and north central  Nebraska last night. The very SW end of that line finally clipped me very early after 2 a.m. here in Phillips County. By then it was just 3 hundredths and a gust of 25.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: JCA433 on June 02, 2018, 11:22:33 AM
I am not noticing any warming here in the spring season for the last three years.   Average temperature for the year through May 31 for 2016 was 71.1 F, 2017 71.6F, and this year 2018 71.2F.    The average temperature for the spring season (March 1 through May 31) in 2016 74.7F, 2017 74.0F, and this year 2018 72.9F.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: bchwdlks on June 02, 2018, 01:50:28 PM
This graphic shows how the Blue Ridge Escarpment collects the rainfall from tropical storms that come into southern Appalachian mountains from Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina coastlines.

Rabun County is in Georgia, its northern border is with North Carolina and the eastern border is with South Carolina. All of the counties with 10" to 20"+ rainfall amounts are where the taller mountains begin.

Alberto was not a powerful storm, but the rains before it and after it lasted a long time.

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on June 05, 2018, 05:39:33 PM
Weather forecast for Wednesday.
I think they have all the possibilities of rain covered.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on June 05, 2018, 06:02:50 PM
 :lol: Ya think!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: SLOweather on June 05, 2018, 07:30:28 PM
I don't see any drizzle...
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: jas340 on June 10, 2018, 03:46:20 PM
June 10th and we have the pellet stove on(my wife's friend is cold). To be fair it is 63 degrees inside. Low of 40 last night. Snow on the mountain peaks above 7000 feet. 01:30 in the afternoon and we just hit 51 F.

http://horseshoebendidahoweather.com/template/indexDesktop.php
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: JCA433 on June 14, 2018, 03:50:38 PM
The frequent thunderstorm activity over the past week has been very disruptive.    The day starts off with only a few clouds and not much later the clouds form with mostly cloudy conditions with numerous thunderstorms after 12PM .   If you must mow your lawn, you must start early and seek shelter when thunderstorms approach.   Lightning is extremely dangerous and  most people killed by lightning are not struck directly but killed by the ground current.  Be at least 75 feet away from where lighting strikes the ground.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 14, 2018, 04:13:08 PM
Lightning is extremely dangerous and  most people killed by lightning are not struck directly but killed by the ground current.  Be at least 75 feet away from where lighting strikes the ground.

Good info didn't realize that.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WxLover16 on June 14, 2018, 05:48:34 PM
Lightning is extremely dangerous and  most people killed by lightning are not struck directly but killed by the ground current.  Be at least 75 feet away from where lighting strikes the ground.

Good info didn't realize that.

LMAO! As soon as I started reading that I was like "is he aware this is a WEATHER forum"? lol pretty sure everyone on here knows that, if not this probably isn't the hobby for ya.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: SLOweather on June 14, 2018, 06:26:53 PM
But how will I KNOW I'm being at least 75 feet away??
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 14, 2018, 06:38:02 PM
^^  Your eyebrows won't be singed?

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on June 14, 2018, 07:07:38 PM
But how will I KNOW I'm being at least 75 feet away??
Simple, you'll obviously know the future then rule the Universe.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 14, 2018, 09:07:54 PM

LMAO! As soon as I started reading that I was like "is he aware this is a WEATHER forum"? lol pretty sure everyone on here knows that, if not this probably isn't the hobby for ya.

I'm pretty sure you are wrong. Most may realize electrifying the ground does occur, the immediate area around lightning but how far away is safe (75 feet) most have never read or heard about. I've read several lightning safety write ups and can't recall any number associated with what's considered a safe distance from lightning strike.

It's great info if true because now campers, hikers, hunters, golfers and those caught in thunderstorms will know how far away to stand is safe, keep (75') from objects that may attract lightning.

Your opinion on what hobbies people should or shouldn't take up, maybe that's something you should seriously look into.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 14, 2018, 09:15:11 PM
But how will I KNOW I'm being at least 75 feet away??

I'm a archer where distance is a big deal when you practice and we use the step off method, 1 yard steps. Can come pretty close within a yard out to 100 yards usually. 

We actually had a tree struck at camp one year, the 75' rule is good to know but still haven't found any corroboration.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 14, 2018, 09:22:59 PM
But you have no idea where or if it will strike.  A direct strike within 1,000' could blind or deafen you permanently.  I doubt many would be able to move comfortably for quite some time if a bolt hit within 100' due to possible nerve damage since we could be talking many thousands of volts.

And there is no consideration for the ground makeup/soil content, whether wet or dry.  Some types of soil may conduct better than others.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 14, 2018, 09:32:35 PM
Agree soil composition would have a lot to do with how far is safe. Moisture in and on top of ground I'm sure is factor also.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on June 15, 2018, 09:39:04 AM
^^  Your eyebrows won't be singed?
Wrong!!!!   The hair on the bottom of your feet won't be singed....
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 15, 2018, 09:56:00 AM
Dog Days doggone it.  Mid 90s, high humidity, high heat warnings .....  79 feels like 91 ......


Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on June 15, 2018, 11:31:55 AM
Been a hot June here in this part of KS. Hot dry wind today. Wheat is turning fast.  86 feels like 84.  :-)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 17, 2018, 10:29:22 AM
Now this is beautiful. We are well below normal for June normally very wet month.

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: gwwilk on June 17, 2018, 10:38:47 AM
Agreed!

(https://www.gwwilkins.org/temp-images/NWS-Forecast-2018-06-17-1.png)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on June 17, 2018, 11:53:44 AM
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We are hoping, but the percentages keeping dropping. Send some down here, Randy. Enjoy your Father's Day.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 17, 2018, 12:07:55 PM
70s/90s with little precip chances forecast.

90+ at 11AM

"333 AM CDT Sun Jun 17 2018

...HEAT ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 7 PM CDT MONDAY...

* HEAT INDEX...Afternoon values will top out from 100 to 105
  degrees through Monday. Little relief is expected at night."



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on June 17, 2018, 12:37:05 PM
Hot and humid here. Heat advisory. Rain later. Off and on all week. That means I will not have to water as much.

Looks like we will get our traditional Fathers day rain

Periods of showers and thunderstorms, mainly after 3pm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. High near 92. Heat index values as high as 100. South southwest wind around 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts between a quarter and half of an inch possible.
Tonight

Tonight: Periods of showers and thunderstorms, mainly before 1am. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain.  Low around 66. West southwest wind 5 to 10 mph becoming north northwest after midnight.  Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts between three quarters and one inch possible.
Heavy Rain
Periods of showers and thunderstorms, mainly before 1am. Some of the storms could produce heavy rain. Low around 66. West southwest wind 5 to 10 mph becoming north northwest after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New rainfall amounts between three quarters and one inch possible.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 22, 2018, 02:30:50 PM
Might not break 80 today, or maybe just barely.  Only got to 83 yesterday.

Big change from recent days, but the heat is coming back for sure next week.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on June 22, 2018, 04:19:28 PM
Similar here. A nice break from weeks of heat these past few days. Only 80 right now- a top 10 KS day. Heat  returns midweek next.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on June 22, 2018, 06:31:37 PM
Hot.  Humid.
Blight is roaring through the tomatoes.  Leaf-footed bugs are populating in biblical numbers.  Weeds are growing rampant. Hot.  Humid.  Hazy.  Yucky.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 25, 2018, 08:52:07 AM
70 degrees, Humidity about 200%, Dewpoint about 150, feels like sauna combined with steambath

OK, so that's an exaggeration.  Maybe.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 25, 2018, 07:47:23 PM
There has been a lot of talk about snow ratios, but has there been any mention of grass ratios?  An inch and a half of rain seems to yield about four inches of sudden grass growth.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: jas340 on June 25, 2018, 07:58:21 PM
Highest temperature of the year reached today...85.3F  Several years ago we hit 104 on the 28th of this month.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on June 25, 2018, 08:37:54 PM
ALRIGHT!!!!!  A cold front must be moving in....we dropped from a high yesterday of 96.8F to a high of only 96.7F today!!!!   \:D/ 

A whopping .1-degree drop!!!!!!!!!  #-o

The humidity has been nice, too!!!  From 80 to 60 percent through the day...just another day in Dixie.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on June 25, 2018, 09:07:49 PM
Quite the "April" day here. Never got above 77, and that briefly. Mostly 66-71 all day as "thundershowers" moved through followed by sunshine. Beautiful growing day.  :grin:

100 by Wednesday.   :-(
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 26, 2018, 09:25:08 PM
Little stormy today ....

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 28, 2018, 03:15:26 PM
Something kind of weird.

Despite most days being upper 80s to mid 90s and night rarely falling below 70, the pool water is feeling cooler than you might expect.   Only thing I can figure is the lack of direct Sun (cloudy most days for several hours) and the 2-3" of rainfall cooling it off.




Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on June 28, 2018, 06:55:50 PM
Just had a thunderstorm blow through.  Very little rain but high winds and a VERY nice temperature drop.  Went from 91F to 73F in about 45 minutes.  High wind gust was 35mph.  Sitting at 72F right now...skies are dark and still rumbling pretty good, but no rain to speak of...I've got the irrigation going in the garden.<sigh>
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 28, 2018, 07:05:13 PM
Those storms coming through Illinois looks N-A-S-T-Y



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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 28, 2018, 10:38:14 PM
Third power outage in a week.

First two were more localized, with numbers of customers affected in the hundreds.  I was out for three hours the first time, two the second.  This one is across a few counties with over 9,000 affected.  Thinking this one might be an all nighter ... and beyond.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 29, 2018, 12:09:57 AM
I'll be interested to see if the use the 'D' word for this storm.  It formed up in Illinois somewhere and is still moving down into Mississippi and Arkansas with what looks like considerable force.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Farmtalk on June 29, 2018, 03:21:15 AM
I'll be interested to see if the use the 'D' word for this storm.  It formed up in Illinois somewhere and is still moving down into Mississippi and Arkansas with what looks like considerable force.

I imagine when local meteorologists look back, it would fit the criteria for that. That line in North Dakota is also looking intense.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 29, 2018, 09:37:02 AM
Just got power back, about 13 hours or so.  Generator did OK, but not great.

Still showing almost 5,000 not yet restored.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on June 29, 2018, 12:07:01 PM
Hot one today here. Heat warnings all over then storms overnight.

Sunny and hot, with a high near 99. Heat index values as high as 108. Breezy, with a south wind 15 to 20 mph, with gusts as high as 30 mph.

I am inside.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on June 29, 2018, 01:33:47 PM
Currently 98 degrees. Wind avrg 26, gusts to 35.  Another reason why Western KS will never have population problems.  ;)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 29, 2018, 02:01:19 PM
Currently 98 degrees. Wind avrg 26, gusts to 35.  Another reason why Western KS will never have population problems.  ;)

Know the feeling no chance for my area exploding in population either with -30 winter, occasional blizzard and 112 summer heat isn't exactly chamber of commerce weather. Summers however are generally really nice compared to high humidity areas.
How did you do for rain down yonder this month? We ended up 4.6" - 5.5" depending which part of town. Normal is just below 4" for June one of wetter months.
60% chance of severe tonight but really haven't had anything bad hail wise or wind locally yet. Knock on wood...
Our highest heat index so far this summer was yesterday low 100's. Mid 70's dewpoint ambient 91.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on June 29, 2018, 02:18:10 PM
CoCoRaHS KS-PL-6
(none of the other reporting stations are functioning anymore)

2.62" June. Avrg is 3.07"
9.28" May. Avrg is 4.13"

Highest temp this summer 105 (Yesterday)
Highest Heat Index this summer 112 ( Wednesday)

Nasty week. Stay cool if you can!

(Still looking at my options to make data available to NWS or friends, etc.)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 29, 2018, 06:33:52 PM
I'll be interested to see if the use the 'D' word for this storm.  It formed up in Illinois somewhere and is still moving down into Mississippi and Arkansas with what looks like considerable force.

I imagine when local meteorologists look back, it would fit the criteria for that. That line in North Dakota is also looking intense.

They gone and do'd it:

"Two rounds of severe thunderstorms occurred on Thursday, June 28. The first round during the midday hours was relatively minor. The more significant outbreak occurred during the evening hours, when a thunderstorm complex raced southward across southern Illinois and western Kentucky. Widespread wind damage occurred with this complex, which met the definition of a derecho. "

https://www.weather.gov/pah/jun28storms



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on June 30, 2018, 12:55:37 AM
Okay, great, the heavy rains from last weekend got my town as well as Oklahoma City into  the drought free white area on the map.  Rainfall here for June so far is above average at 5.16".  Average is 4.32".  Extreme drought starts only three counties away, though.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/droughtmapjune28.png)

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 30, 2018, 08:38:16 AM
Lawn June after 5+ inches rain at weather station. I never water this large section to prevent artificial conditions (truth no sprinkler system) and takes 2 days by hand.  Anyway it does yellow later if and when rain slows down, but always bounces back. 
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on June 30, 2018, 10:25:46 AM
Alabama derecho last Thursday.  That was an intense storm system!!! https://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2018/06/weather_service_says_thursdays.html

I'm located in Crenshaw County, south of Montgomery and west of Troy...I sure wish I had made a screen capture of the radar when the "wave" was entering Crenshaw...it was pretty well parallel with the coastline and very well formed and symmetrical.
(https://image.al.com/home/bama-media/width600/img/news_impact/photo/derecho-radar-1jpg-0da253646b31ddd3.jpg)


Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on June 30, 2018, 10:30:24 AM
Another interesting map from the derecho.

Storm damage reports...
(https://image.al.com/home/bama-media/width600/img/news_impact/photo/6-28%20storm%20reports.jpg)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on June 30, 2018, 01:19:21 PM
Still showing almost 1,000 without power just within the service area of the utility I have.  No idea how many more are still out in other utility company areas.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on July 06, 2018, 10:50:54 AM
I'm hoping for at least a sprinkle somewhere in our area tomorrow.  We're currently at 29 days with rain somewhere in the forecast area.  There is little to no chance for tomorrow (Saturday) which would end the streak.  After tomorrow, chances escalate for the next week or more.  I'd hate to see such a streak broken by one day.





Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on July 08, 2018, 08:48:14 AM
The Dog Days of summer are here.

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on July 08, 2018, 10:51:08 PM
Hey Earles, get any rain up there?? Maybe a clap or two of thunder?? :lol:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on July 09, 2018, 07:03:04 PM
The white spots and streaks are heavy rain.  Pounding, driving rain I can hear inside the house hitting the metal roof and windows.  You can see what else is hitting the grass, trees and wet driveway.

Summer in the country I guess.


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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on July 10, 2018, 12:51:18 AM
Phoenix tonight.
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on July 10, 2018, 01:37:50 AM
I'm soooo glad that we give that to them every summer instead of the other way around. :evil:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on July 12, 2018, 01:28:35 AM
Map shows total days of highs above 100 in Oklahoma, which is confined to most of the western half of Oklahoma.   Far southwest Oklahoma easily has the hottest summers.  Some of the worst drought in the state is there. 

Oklahoma City hasn't gotten to over a 100 yet, and 10 day forecast has no 100s in it.  The same with Tulsa.  This summer's weather hasn't been noteworthy of much of anything unusual.

(http://okie.world/photos/days100s.jpg)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: BigOkie on July 12, 2018, 02:28:26 AM
The forecast from the Scripps station here does show 100 and 101 for Sunday and Monday. NWS shows 96/97 for those days. The humidity is back however and we have a heat advisory again tomorrow. Who knows.

As long as it's not like 2011 all over. That summer was brutal.
Map shows total days of highs above 100 in Oklahoma, which is confined to most of the western half of Oklahoma.   Far southwest Oklahoma easily has the hottest summers.  Some of the worst drought in the state is there. 

Oklahoma City hasn't gotten to over a 100 yet, and 10 day forecast has no 100s in it.  The same with Tulsa.  This summer's weather hasn't been noteworthy of much of anything unusual.

(http://okie.world/photos/days100s.jpg)

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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on July 12, 2018, 11:37:56 AM
Seems to be something afoot that will yield a significant cooldown after the 17th or 18th.  Two week forecast (which I know is Voodoo) has been consistent over the last couple of days showing mid 60s/low 80s from the 18th through the 26th.

If it happens, I'll welcome it.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on July 18, 2018, 03:58:58 AM
Massive 100 plus HEATWAVE in all of Oklahoma coming Friday.  We'll see if the TV weatherman's  hype pans out.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/heatwave.jpg)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on July 19, 2018, 01:11:21 PM
Davis just took its first 75 mph wind this morning in a surprise 20% chance severe t-storm.

Also, the Davis rain gauge measured .51" in 30 min, while my CoCoRaHS measured .48" in the same period.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on July 19, 2018, 05:45:47 PM
Dangerously high heat index in Stillwater with 120 during Thursday afternoon.  Dew point 76.  Even hotter temps not seen in five years expected on Friday.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/highheatindex.jpg)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: BigOkie on July 19, 2018, 09:22:08 PM
This was my CumuluxMX page today on my Davis.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on July 20, 2018, 12:58:35 AM
WOW, Tulsa had even higher humidity to deal with.  Meanwhile, Oklahoma heatwave buckles Cimarron Turnpike pavement, lane closed on Stillwater spur:  http://www.stwnewspress.com/news/local_news/heat-buckles-cimarron-turnpike-pavement-lane-closed-on-stillwater-spur/article_1dd1fb57-0ca0-58ef-a6df-3992cef7991c.html (http://www.stwnewspress.com/news/local_news/heat-buckles-cimarron-turnpike-pavement-lane-closed-on-stillwater-spur/article_1dd1fb57-0ca0-58ef-a6df-3992cef7991c.html)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on July 20, 2018, 06:18:38 AM
There is a huge thread about the Davis SHT31 humidity reliability primarily having a high bias 5-8% humidity especially when hot and humid. Davis is actually taking a serious look into what may be causing this issue.

FYI I've got a couple acurite sht31's that don't display the same high bias so it may very well be the way chip is molded into board or handling, shipping sensors and storing in bubble wrap. The handling procedure stresses to avoid any plastics made of polyethylene which is almost all plus sensor shouldn't be open air but stored in appropriate bags. None of this was being done.

https://www.sensirion.com/fileadmin/user_upload/customers/sensirion/Dokumente/2_Humidity_Sensors/Sensirion_Humidity_Sensors_Handling_Instructions.pdf

These were the peak heat index readings at Tulsa and Stillwater yesterday at airports. Compare to the Davis stations if you own one.   

krvs-109 
ktul-114
KOWP -111
KSWO-113 Stillwater


Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on July 20, 2018, 09:40:25 AM
Dangerously high heat index in Stillwater with 120 during Thursday afternoon.  Dew point 76.  Even hotter temps not seen in five years expected on Friday.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/highheatindex.jpg)
That makes me think of the melting witch in the Wizard of Oz.....  :shock:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: BigOkie on July 20, 2018, 04:04:38 PM
WOW, Tulsa had even higher humidity to deal with.  Meanwhile, Oklahoma heatwave buckles Cimarron Turnpike pavement, lane closed on Stillwater spur:  http://www.stwnewspress.com/news/local_news/heat-buckles-cimarron-turnpike-pavement-lane-closed-on-stillwater-spur/article_1dd1fb57-0ca0-58ef-a6df-3992cef7991c.html (http://www.stwnewspress.com/news/local_news/heat-buckles-cimarron-turnpike-pavement-lane-closed-on-stillwater-spur/article_1dd1fb57-0ca0-58ef-a6df-3992cef7991c.html)

I live in a bit of a microclimate; my humidity is always higher than the airport.  Live in a depression that's quite a bit lower in elevation next to a rather large creek.  The mixing creates more moisture for me.  I used to think I had bad weather units but this exists across three different weather station brands and I've verified with a sling psych.  It's no fun if I have to mow in this.  I try and mow early in the morning.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on July 20, 2018, 04:41:32 PM
I don't live in a depression, so I call into question the accuracy of the humidity reading on my Davis.  The current temp here is temp 106 with 118 heat index.  NWS said heat index would get up to 113. 
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on July 20, 2018, 06:57:02 PM
Looking at Stillwater 109F 113 heat index at airport. Ouch! keep it down in Oklahoma..We had 112 ambient airport 108 at my station last year & no fun, doesn't take much humidity to make it feel real bad.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on July 20, 2018, 07:02:29 PM
Davis just took its first 75 mph wind this morning in a surprise 20% chance severe t-storm.

Also, the Davis rain gauge measured .51" in 30 min, while my CoCoRaHS measured .48" in the same period.

Very good. I really need to guywire my telepole. It turned into a propeller the pole bent so far over at peak wind so only recorded 60mph. I've had 72 before and pole didn't bend that far so actual was more in 80-85 mph likely.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on July 20, 2018, 07:30:02 PM
Looking at Stillwater 109F 113 heat index at airport. Ouch! keep it down in Oklahoma..We had 112 ambient airport 108 at my station last year & no fun, doesn't take much humidity to make it feel real bad.
My turn early next week. Progged for 111F Tue., no big deal here, but dews will probably hang on enough to put us around a 115F index. Excessive heat warning is already out.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on July 21, 2018, 01:09:54 AM
Looking at Stillwater 109F 113 heat index at airport. Ouch! keep it down in Oklahoma..We had 112 ambient airport 108 at my station last year & no fun, doesn't take much humidity to make it feel real bad.

Friday high at my station was 109.5.  Heat made turnpike buckle again with pictures:  http://www.stwnewspress.com/news/breaking-more-pavement-buckles-on-stillwater-spur-of-cimarron-turnpike/article_eef3568a-8c70-11e8-bbb4-7becb3f69d48.html (http://www.stwnewspress.com/news/breaking-more-pavement-buckles-on-stillwater-spur-of-cimarron-turnpike/article_eef3568a-8c70-11e8-bbb4-7becb3f69d48.html)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on July 22, 2018, 08:20:09 AM
This sounds refreshing for us. Hope it somehow gets to OK as well:
NWS HSI forecast discussion 22 July

"We will be heading into a significant cool stretch to end the month
of July. This will begin on Thursday, as high temperatures only
reach the upper 70s to low 80s. It doesn`t look like we`ll get
cool enough to threaten any records at this time, but we aren`t
looking at any more 90 degree days through the end of July."
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Snowman11 on July 22, 2018, 09:29:23 AM
Mostly cloudy here after a pretty good soaking overnight
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on July 22, 2018, 11:27:03 AM
119 Heat Index here yesterday. Don't think I could have been any more wetter after cutting the grass unless I took a shower.
Slight risk today also as the weather radio just went off with a Severe TS Watch.
Low probability of tornadoes just enhanced straight line and possible downbursts.
I probably should gas up the genny just in case.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on July 22, 2018, 11:46:54 AM
119 Heat Index here yesterday. Don't think I could have been any more wetter after cutting the grass unless I took a shower.
Slight risk today also as the weather radio just went off with a Severe TS Watch.
Low probability of tornadoes just enhanced straight line and possible downbursts.
I probably should gas up the genny just in case.

Was that with the Davis station or airport. Many have noticed the Davis has a really high heat index bias with humidity running for some 10% high especially when it gets muggy.
 
Pulling up yesterday the Ocala International Airport - Jim Taylor Field, FL. reported high temp of 91.4F at dewpoint 77 making for heat index of 105.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on July 22, 2018, 12:09:09 PM
119 Heat Index here yesterday. Don't think I could have been any more wetter after cutting the grass unless I took a shower.
Slight risk today also as the weather radio just went off with a Severe TS Watch.
Low probability of tornadoes just enhanced straight line and possible downbursts.
I probably should gas up the genny just in case.

Was that with the Davis station or airport. Many have noticed the Davis has a really high heat index bias with humidity running for some 10% high especially when it gets muggy.
 
Pulling up yesterday the Ocala International Airport - Jim Taylor Field, FL. reported high temp of 91.4F at dewpoint 77 making for heat index of 105.
It was the Davis. Does the new sensor rectify that?
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on July 22, 2018, 12:17:59 PM
119 Heat Index here yesterday. Don't think I could have been any more wetter after cutting the grass unless I took a shower.
Slight risk today also as the weather radio just went off with a Severe TS Watch.
Low probability of tornadoes just enhanced straight line and possible downbursts.
I probably should gas up the genny just in case.

Was that with the Davis station or airport. Many have noticed the Davis has a really high heat index bias with humidity running for some 10% high especially when it gets muggy.
 
Pulling up yesterday the Ocala International Airport - Jim Taylor Field, FL. reported high temp of 91.4F at dewpoint 77 making for heat index of 105.
It was the Davis. Does the new sensor rectify that?
This occurred at 3PM yesterday. Temp was 92.7 and DP was 80.6. Heat Index was 113.1. 119 was the hi dewpoint. 113.1 was the average for the 10 minute archive.
Strangely enough Cumulus had the the same data but they also have something called the Apparent Temp. It was 105.5. Not sure what to make of that. :???:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on July 22, 2018, 12:29:04 PM
119 Heat Index here yesterday. Don't think I could have been any more wetter after cutting the grass unless I took a shower.
Slight risk today also as the weather radio just went off with a Severe TS Watch.
Low probability of tornadoes just enhanced straight line and possible downbursts.
I probably should gas up the genny just in case.

Was that with the Davis station or airport. Many have noticed the Davis has a really high heat index bias with humidity running for some 10% high especially when it gets muggy.
 
Pulling up yesterday the Ocala International Airport - Jim Taylor Field, FL. reported high temp of 91.4F at dewpoint 77 making for heat index of 105.
It was the Davis. Does the new sensor rectify that?

No but Davis is looking at issue.

Thread on forum Re: The Reliability of the SHT-31 Humidity Sensor & What Psychrometer Should I Buy?. It's long and gets off track at times but in summary covers many of the potential problems from contamination, and now has revolved to the SHT sensors are not meteorological sensors or designed for high humidity use.  It even states 85% humidity is upper end recommended for general use in literature.

It looks more like just a bad choice. Specs +/- 2% have been proven way off 10% at times when in saturated high humidity environments where many are during summer except the west where the sensor does better when arid.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on July 22, 2018, 12:29:59 PM
Googling apparent temp it also takes into account wind speed. In this case it would be a cooling effect.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ocala on July 22, 2018, 12:36:23 PM
I didn't take apart the  heat shield this year and do a spring cleaning. That could be some of the issue.
If that is what the literature says then Davis FU big time putting in a sensor with a humidity ceiling of 85%. That is boneheaded beyond belief. :evil:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on July 22, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
This occurred at 3PM yesterday. Temp was 92.7 and DP was 80.6. Heat Index was 113.1. 119 was the hi dewpoint. 113.1 was the average for the 10 minute archive.
Strangely enough Cumulus had the the same data but they also have something called the Apparent Temp. It was 105.5. Not sure what to make of that. :???:

They can start making big swings too. Mine does in high heat and humidity also.
You are running the classic +4 dewpoint above actual, pretty much all 31's are displaying this same high bias.

There is nothing really you can do even new sensors display same characteristics.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on July 22, 2018, 04:38:32 PM
Is it weird that 79 degrees at 3PM feels almost chilly?
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on July 23, 2018, 07:32:07 PM
Air 82, Dwpt 62, Hum 51%

Almost feels comfy.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on July 24, 2018, 10:13:21 PM
Couple of years ago we had that smoke from fires in BC or Alberta (can't remember which), and in addition to making a haze, it really stunk up the air.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on July 26, 2018, 12:06:24 PM
Davis v CoCoRaHS rain gauge in heavy rain this morning

CoCo measured 1.25", Davis 1.26". This rain fell in less than an hour. Wind less than 15 max gust.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on August 02, 2018, 03:24:04 AM
Air 63, Dewpoint 60

Nights have been like this for much of the last week or so.  Days have been upper 80s with low dewpoints also.  Haven't had the A/C on for close to two weeks now.

Changes are coming back though for a while after this week.

Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: spc fresno on August 02, 2018, 11:29:53 AM
Luckily I havent had to deal with the humidity, but Fresno has had nearly 30 consecutive days at or above 100F (the old record for us was 22). The heat will let off for a few days next week but its definitely coming back.  #-o
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on August 03, 2018, 05:23:26 AM
^^  Haven't hit it at all this year.  Got close at 98 twice.  Next two weeks look to be normal or below with highs under 90 and beyond there it's rare for us to hit it.  I see a few 100+ readings in the High Records list past mid August, but those were mostly in the 1940s and 50s and in years that would have already been that hot by now.



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on August 03, 2018, 09:44:10 AM
I think 95-96F has been our high so far this summer.  Between it, though, and the humidty...and getting older  #-o it has been a hot, sweaty time. 

It had dried out around here and we needed a good rain.  We were away from home yesterday, experiencing only a light sprinkle of rain while gone.  When we returned home I noticed some things seemed to be kind of "beaten up".  It ended up being that a cloud decided to dump right at 1.6" of rain on us.  Folks around us did not get anywhere close to that amount.  We're predicted for more today and the days to follow.  Temperatures will be in the upper 80F this weekend moving backing into the mid-90F next week.  I hope the garden dries enough to plant some beans and a few other things.  ;)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on August 07, 2018, 05:49:07 AM
Death Valley today. Check the temperature at 2am it's just under 100 (37.7c)  heading for 123 (50.5c).
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Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on August 07, 2018, 07:37:18 AM
And thus the names....Furnace Creek and Death Valley!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :shock: :shock: :shock:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on August 07, 2018, 11:15:15 AM
And thus the names....Furnace Creek and Death Valley!!!!!!!!!!!!!   :shock: :shock: :shock:

What I found odd only excessive until Wednesday 10pm. How about 120 Thursday , Friday etc.  :grin:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on August 08, 2018, 09:15:32 AM
At those temps, what's a couple of measly degrees, eh?   #-o
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Jasiu on August 08, 2018, 09:20:46 AM
You can keep that heat, but I'd pay serious money for that dew point!!!
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Intheswamp on August 10, 2018, 09:16:23 PM
We've dropped back to bouncing around in the low and mid 90's with humidity in the 70's-80's.  All I know is that I was drenched with sweat today at work and was drenched in the garden yesterday morning.  Maybe I'm just getting too old for this...time to move to Alaska, or maybe Queenstown, NZ!!!  UU  But, I guess I'm stuck here in the Enchanted Land of Humidity. :lol:  We did have a storm blow through today around 2:30pm that really cooled things off.  It got me a little worried, recalling a couple of years ago when the straight-line wind came through town and almost put me out of business (and did lots of damage to a lot of folks property).  The wind really got up today.  The storm came from the north and I heard later on that about 30 miles to the south of us in Opp, Alabama, that electric lines were down and lots of folks were without power...I don't know of any specific damage, though.  Here's a shot I took with my phone as the storm was nearing the downtown area...
(https://garden.org/pics/2018-08-11/Intheswamp/7b8a95.jpg)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: Bunty on August 14, 2018, 04:18:19 AM
A Rare Oklahoma Summer Severe Weather Event Tuesday: A Tornado Possible
http://aarontuttleweather.com/2018/08/13/a-rare-summer-severe-weather-event-tuesday-a-tornado-possible/ (http://aarontuttleweather.com/2018/08/13/a-rare-summer-severe-weather-event-tuesday-a-tornado-possible/)
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on August 14, 2018, 06:01:59 AM
Our 90 (32.2c) days may soon be over. Fingers crossed...None in 10 day forecast and as days get shorter chances lessen going into September even though not uncommon to have a couple early on.
 
So far a full months worth (30) 90+ days and only 1-100 day all summer.  Stark difference from last year with 8 days above 100 all in July. Could have something to do with the moisture +8" above normal this year.  I've not needed to water lawn yet this year and may not as we cool and just let it go dormant with first freeze due around 4th October.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on August 14, 2018, 06:14:16 AM
Completely subjective observation

I can't remember a greener summer here, especially this late in August. No hot, dry August wind, and I am not complaining about the loss.

Light rain again overnight.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on August 14, 2018, 06:25:17 AM
We've been hot and muggy, but not killer hot.  No 100 degree days, though we've come close at 98 once or twice.  Temps have generally topped out in the low 90s overall with nights in the low 70s.  Recent nights have been in the 60s a few times ..  currently 65 with a 63 dewpoint.  Lets me open the windows and draw the cool air in, then close up some and hold it in most of the day.  A/C has only been on a few hours at a time in the early evening all summer.  And that's only been to dry the muggy out to make sleeping easier.

It has been dry though.  A few storms have kept things green, but I'm seeing some things show signs of drying out, leaves browning, grass slowing, etc.

We've turned the corner, but we're not out of the woods yet.  September can be a real crapshoot and the last couple of years we've had upper 80s in early October.



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on August 15, 2018, 10:07:07 PM
Started hearing locusts this week.

six weeks until the first frost-puts us at end of September.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on August 15, 2018, 10:25:55 PM
Started hearing locusts this week.
Growing up in northern Ohio that sound always meant one thing, the new school year was right around the corner. :sad:
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on August 16, 2018, 08:20:06 AM
Ditto. I have a meeting next Friday and report for inservice on the 27th.

I love Summer.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: ValentineWeather on August 16, 2018, 09:19:45 AM
Ditto. I have a meeting next Friday and report for inservice on the 27th.

I love Summer.

HS, MS started yesterday here.
Today elementary starts.
First FB game is August 24th. 
Crazy, I never started before September but guess school lets out for summer break earlier now.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: WeatherHost on August 16, 2018, 09:25:54 AM
Busses started rolling this week.  They drive like maniacs too, so I have to be extra careful on this narrow road.

The Big Mugg is on heavy duty now too.  DPs in the low to mid 70s.  Feels like it's raining even when it isn't.

Have also noticed some leaves turning already.



Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: chief-david on August 16, 2018, 10:37:23 AM
Ditto. I have a meeting next Friday and report for inservice on the 27th.

I love Summer.

HS, MS started yesterday here.
Today elementary starts.
First FB game is August 24th. 
Crazy, I never started before September but guess school lets out for summer break earlier now.

Every state is different. Minnesota start dates are really controlled by tourism. Resorts need help until Labor Day and the state fair ends on Labor Day. So their lobby forces schools not start until the first Tuesday after Labor day. Sometimes that is really late.
But FB has a game Aug. 31. Friday of Labor Day weekend.
So to me-We could start earlier and get done earlier. No one will love every schedule.

Last year-the last Thursday in August had :Back to school nights, HS football, Twins game, Vikings preseason and U of Minnesota Home game. F****** insane.

My kid is at North Dakota State and they start classes Aug 21.

Since this is about weather-Last August we had 6.5 inches of rain. This year- 1.13 inches. I think that is more normal.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on August 16, 2018, 08:12:18 PM
I was in AZ  29 July-5 August. Schools were open on 1 August. Never saw the like. I spent a lot of years in public education, and the earliest kids came in the door was around 20 August. But as Valentine says, it is different now. KS schools started this week.

Glad to be retired....Every day is a  snow day.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: CW2274 on August 16, 2018, 08:18:08 PM
I was in AZ  29 July-5 August. Schools were open on 1 August. Never saw the like.
I've been in Tucson 30 years now and it certainly took me a while to get use to my daughters "new" schedule. Back east it was around the second week of Sept. thru the second week of June.
Title: Re: Spring/Summer '18
Post by: DRoberts on August 16, 2018, 08:40:03 PM

Raised in VA and we never started before Labor Day. Long years ago. Now Loudoun County in Va starts in 23 August and is done 7 June. Schools are air conditioned now so it is a lot more comfortable.