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Title: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: SLOweather on September 05, 2008, 05:10:36 PM
As has been noted in other threads here, the Ambient sponsored VWS forum has been shut down, presumably permanently.

As a long time contributor (using VWS since 2001) and former Global Moderator over there, I spent a lot of time on that forum, and made a lot of contributions. All of that is gone now, so let's pick it up here where we left off. I know at least 2 of my fellow GMs are members here. I hope they chime in as well.

Here I'm SLOweather. Over there, I was known as carndt. In either case, you probably can recognize me from my sig.

Chris
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: blackjack52 on September 05, 2008, 05:13:39 PM
Thanks Chris for your effort and time.
I guess there will be no more beta testing?  I really enjoyed doing that.
I guess the only way that it could be done is if people periodically checked the link were Ed posts the newest version.  I would surmise that we can still submit problem reports through the link also.

Problem reporting:
http://www.ambientweather.com/viwestprre.html (http://www.ambientweather.com/viwestprre.html)

Recent version:
http://www.ambientweather.com/do30tr.html (http://www.ambientweather.com/do30tr.html)

If this will still work, can a moderator over here create a "VWS Beta Testing" thread?
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: racenet on September 05, 2008, 05:23:38 PM
As has been noted in other threads here, the Ambient sponsored VWS forum has been shut down, presumably permanently.

As a long time contributor (using VWS since 2001) and former Global Moderator over there, I spent a lot of time on that forum, and made a lot of contributions. All of that is gone now, so let's pick it up here where we left off. I know at least 2 of my fellow GMs are members here. I hope they chime in as well.

Here I'm SLOweather. Over there, I was known as carndt. In either case, you probably can recognize me from my sig.

Chris

Chis,

Yep, I'm here, but not going to say anything on the matter. Not going to get into the middle of this mess.



Bob
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: sam2004gp on September 05, 2008, 05:28:14 PM
I am here now.  I was just a 'Jr Drip' and was just starting to really enjoy the forums.   I hope my "new forum home" proves to be more enlightening than Ambient did.  :grin:
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: SLOweather on September 05, 2008, 06:01:31 PM
Chris,

Yep, I'm here, but not going to say anything on the matter. Not going to get into the middle of this mess.

Bob


Sorry for the misunderstanding, Bob. I wasn't trying to drag the badness over here, just welcome the disenfranchised to a new home and point out that there are familiar people here.

My bad.

Chris
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: saratogaWX on September 05, 2008, 06:05:37 PM
Let me know which new boards need to be created to support VWS, and I'll be glad to create them.

I've added SLOweather as moderator for the VWS board, and if the other global-moderators will chime in, I'll add them too.  If you think a new Forum (collection of boards) would be helpful, let me know.

I'm very sorry to see the sudden demise of Ambient.  Having been through the demise (and reconstitution) of WeatherForum.net as WXForum.net, I know how folks feel having lost many of their valuable posts and threads .. but..
Here's a 'clean and well lighted' place for discussion and since we're beholdin' to no particular vendor, our freedom to discuss areas of mutual interest isn't curtailed by commercial interests.  We do expect that discussions will be polite and that we conduct our postings with mutual respect and helpfulness .. so far, only a very few (Spammers mostly) have been evicted for untoward conduct/postings.

So.. again, a hearty welcome to the Ambient forum folks .. hopefully you can find (and create) the knowledge base here that you supported over there.

Best regards,
Ken

BTW.. for folks wanting to capture favorite threads/postings on Ambient, use Google Search and read/save the cached pages on Google before they dissappear .. we'd done that with stuff on weatherforum.net after it's DNS demise and managed to save some of the good stuff :)
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: SLOweather on September 05, 2008, 06:07:42 PM
BTW.. for folks wanting to capture favorite threads/postings on Ambient, use Google Search and read/save the cached pages on Google before they dissappear .. we'd done that with stuff on weatherforum.net after it's DNS demise and managed to save some of the good stuff :)

That may not be possible. The last time I checked, that forum was private and not indexable.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: sam2004gp on September 05, 2008, 06:12:35 PM
Let me know which new boards need to be created to support VWS, and I'll be glad to create them.

I've added SLOweather as moderator for the VWS board, and if the other global-moderators will chime in, I'll add them too.  If you think a new Forum (collection of boards) would be helpful, let me know......

I made a humble request earlier. :-)  They were my favorite at the Ol' place..  http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=2018.0
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: saratogaWX on September 05, 2008, 06:13:54 PM
Both the Oregon Scientific and WeatherUnderground boards are now available :)

Best regards,
Ken
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: sam2004gp on September 05, 2008, 06:19:35 PM
Wow now that is action.  Thanks...... =D> =D> =D> \:D/ \:D/ \:D/
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: racenet on September 05, 2008, 06:22:04 PM
Chris,

Yep, I'm here, but not going to say anything on the matter. Not going to get into the middle of this mess.

Bob


Sorry for the misunderstanding, Bob. I wasn't trying to drag the badness over here, just welcome the disenfranchised to a new home and point out that there are familiar people here.

My bad.

Chris


Nothing to be sorry about Chris. I knew exactly what you ment in your post. I just wanted to get it out right at the start that I'm not going to say anything on the matter.

It's all good. :)


Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: jwyman on September 05, 2008, 07:25:14 PM
This has been stated here many times before but in light of what has happened over at the Ambient Forum and the way the guys here have welcomed everyone,   This has got to be the BEST weather place around!

 =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Again guys thanks for all you do..


Jim  :grin:
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: weatherforyou on September 05, 2008, 08:37:28 PM
Both the Oregon Scientific and WeatherUnderground boards are now available :)

Best regards,
Ken

 :-(  :?

How about a weatherforyou.com or PWSweather.com board?
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: mackbig on September 05, 2008, 09:32:38 PM
Thanks for the welcome.  I must admit I stumbled across this forum a while back, and it was kind of eerie, the names, many of them were the same. and setup is almost identical as well.  It was kind of like the bizarro world episode on Seinfeld....

Looks like this will be a good place to get my weather fix,

Andrew
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: saratogaWX on September 05, 2008, 09:36:05 PM
Both the Oregon Scientific and WeatherUnderground boards are now available :)

Best regards,
Ken

 :-(  :?

How about a weatherforyou.com or PWSweather.com board?


You bet!  How about this one http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?board=91.0 .. and, you are a moderator for it :D

Best regards,
Ken
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: SLOweather on September 05, 2008, 09:53:09 PM
Thanks for the welcome.  I must admit I stumbled across this forum a while back, and it was kind of eerie, the names, many of them were the same. and setup is almost identical as well.  It was kind of like the bizarro world episode on Seinfeld....

Cue Twilight Zone theme...
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Mark / Ohio on September 05, 2008, 10:14:41 PM
.... It was kind of like the bizarro world episode on Seinfeld.......

You have entered into the neutral zone between matter and anti-matter.  As long as you don't stick your hands out both sides of the zone at the same time you'll live to enjoy it!   UU
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: glacierview on September 05, 2008, 10:23:58 PM
This looks like a happy place. Glad I found it. Lots of good info was lost at the other site but I am sure in time it will be populated here. Thanks for the new home.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: offroadjosh on September 06, 2008, 12:24:44 AM
anyone know why it was closed??
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: saratogaWX on September 06, 2008, 12:41:44 AM
Thanks Chris for your effort and time.
I guess there will be no more beta testing?  I really enjoyed doing that.
I guess the only way that it could be done is if people periodically checked the link were Ed posts the newest version.  I would surmise that we can still submit problem reports through the link also.

Problem reporting:
http://www.ambientweather.com/viwestprre.html (http://www.ambientweather.com/viwestprre.html)

Recent version:
http://www.ambientweather.com/do30tr.html (http://www.ambientweather.com/do30tr.html)

If this will still work, can a moderator over here create a "VWS Beta Testing" thread?

I've added a 'VWS Beta Testing' forum as a child board under "Virtual Weather Station Software".  Enjoy!

Best regards,
Ken
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherHost on September 06, 2008, 01:24:33 AM
anyone know why it was closed??


Something I said?

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Mark / Ohio on September 06, 2008, 01:26:07 AM
...
I've added a 'VWS Beta Testing' forum as a child board under "Virtual Weather Station Software".  Enjoy!....

Thanks Ken!  

Maybe at some point we could talk Ed into generating a mailing list or notifying one of the moderators when  new version is released for testing.  
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherHost on September 06, 2008, 02:00:14 AM
Any chance of getting Ambient to endorse this board and allow use of the logo?  Or at least to link to it from their support page?

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Anthony on September 06, 2008, 08:39:46 AM
As most of you know I was also a member of the Ambient Weather Forum and also a moderator. I was a member since sometime around 2002 and was a moderator for the last, almost year. I have been a member here since the original Wx Forum. I have also been asked my Ken to be one of the moderators in the VWS section and have accepted his offer. So I will do my best to answer any questions any one might have there and in any of the other areas.

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Anole on September 06, 2008, 08:55:26 AM
Any chance of getting Ambient to endorse this board and allow use of the logo?  Or at least to link to it from their support page?



Sorry Anthony but I would work very hard to squash this idea. I personally don't want to do _anything_ that even implies that we have any affiliation with any specific manufacturer. That independence from any commercial interest is at the very heart of wxforum.net's existence.

EDIT: Specifically, I'm talking about the use of the logo. I wouldn't have an issue with Ambient linking to the forums here  ;)
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: mmorris on September 06, 2008, 09:13:25 AM
Hi all, Well that was a shock to the system. Think I went into withdrawal. Thing are looking better now..
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: killwilly on September 06, 2008, 09:15:18 AM
Hello everyone. Glad to be on board the forum, a bit like moving house.  :-)

Alan.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: SLOweather on September 06, 2008, 09:58:36 AM

EDIT: Specifically, I'm talking about the use of the logo. I wouldn't have an issue with Ambient linking to the forums here  ;)

I emailed Ed last night and told him he was welcome to point people here. No response yet.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: mmorris on September 06, 2008, 10:07:41 AM
I Just went to the Ambient Wiki and posted a link to this site in hope that it will bring some more lost people over here.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: SLOweather on September 06, 2008, 10:17:56 AM
I Just went to the Ambient Wiki and posted a link to this site in hope that it will bring some more lost people over here.

Thanks! I hadn't thought of that.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: SLOweather on September 06, 2008, 10:24:27 AM
I emailed Ed last night and told him he was welcome to point people here. No response yet.

Following up on myself. I just had an email from Ed. He will point people here.

It looks like the loss of the VWS forum is permanent.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: PSJohn on September 06, 2008, 01:09:53 PM
I just wanted to chime in and WELCOME all ex VWS Forum members to WXForum. I was a member there but didn't visit to often due to its "hostile" environment.

again, Welcome!
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: ambientweather on September 06, 2008, 01:18:43 PM
Greetings,

This is Ed from Ambient Weather. I am truly sorry we had to take the forum down, it was a labor of love for John Norman and he worked hard to keep things in check.

John was a volunteer. He is loyal and passionate about a number of things. There is a very fine balance if you are a forum administrator. You must keep conflicts in check without offending people. John was contstantly walking this tight rope.

I received an email from member of the forum that they were filing a law suit for the way they were treated by other members.  This is not the first threat I received (I actually had someone threaten my life, family and business that was a user of another competing software application that was banned from the forum).

These threats grew to a crescendo, and although I am not sure if this person was serious, I sent the thread and email to my other business partners and our attorney. They all recommended I shut the forum down.

It is dissappointing and I had discussed this with John for serveral years. Each time, we decided we would remove the offending posts, and keep going. Unfortunately, I can never endorse another forum again. This is supposed to be a hobby! This is supposed to be fun!

I will say that everyone deserves a pat on the back for contributing to this forum.

You can always reach me by email: support@ambientweather.com
Live chat: www.ambientweather.com/chat.html
or visit our wikispaces: http://ambientweather.wikispaces.com

Regards,

Ed
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: saratogaWX on September 06, 2008, 01:44:38 PM
Hi Ed, and thanks very much for stopping by and letting folks know what had happened with the Ambient forum.  As a group of volunteers moderating this forum, we well understand how threats will make an untenable situation and force a resolution.

WXForum.net was founded two+ years ago using the principles that Gary Oldham evidenced in the old weatherforum.net: provide a place for weather enthusiasts to exchange help with weather related software, hardware and personal weather website development.  Thanks to the great membership here, that principle is still alive and well!

It's all about helping each other further our weather hobby, and learning from the experience of others.

While the forum is graced with visits from multiple software and hardware developers, we don't expect (but do welcome) their participation in the forum as their time permits.  We are strictly un-affiliated with any commercial venture and rely on the mutual aid of amateur enthusiasts for hints/tricks/tips, and that problem reports for software should be directed to the official support venue for the specific products.   So, you're very welcome to drop by, see, and (if you like) respond to the conversations, but don't view it as a requirement at all :D

Thanks again for your explanation,
best regards,

Ken
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: sam2004gp on September 06, 2008, 03:10:30 PM
Greetings,

This is Ed from Ambient Weather. I am truly sorry we had to take the forum down.......

......Regards,

Ed

In regards to that member(s) who made the threats and those folks who could not control themselves. 
I say "Thanks, a hell of alot, now look what you done." :evil:

For Ed and his business partners, we understand that you must protect your business and lively-hood.  Sometimes you got to do, what you got to do.  No hard feelings against Ambient. 

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: racenet on September 06, 2008, 03:49:34 PM
In regards to that member(s) who made the threats and those folks who could not control themselves. 
I say "Thanks, a hell of alot, now look what you done." :evil:

I hear ya Sam. I know your "Thanks" to them will be delivered, since they are active here.  ](*,)
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: saratogaWX on September 06, 2008, 04:15:41 PM
All are invited to join in the discussions .. we just ask that civility be the guiding principle on all postings.

Best regards,
Ken
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Anole on September 06, 2008, 05:14:09 PM
All are invited to join in the discussions .. we just ask that civility be the guiding principle on all postings.

Best regards,
Ken

It has been the extremely rare occasion (maybe one time a thread was shut down) that any of the administrators have had to resort to any heavy handed tactics here at wxforum.net. In all honesty this has probably been the easiest to administrate discusion board I've ever had the pleasure of being involved with.

We want to keep it that way, but the only way that can continue to happen is that we all practice respect and civility to one another. That has never really been an issue here, but as more and more folks join the potential for conflict rises as well. That's the nature of online discussion. Please try to remember:

There will be disagreements. That is the nature of discussion. There's no reason that they have to degrade into arguments though. I know from experience that this can be difficult. At some point in every group, if you hang around long enough, there will be someone that you just plain can not get along with. Ignore their posts if you can't be civil. There is no excuse for personal attacks. Take it offline if you must. The rest of us don't want to have to wade through a stinking pile.

At some point someone is going to write something that is going to tick you off. Almost all of us will make the mistake of pulling the trigger without stepping back and cooling down at some point. You might only do it once every 10 years, but most of us at some point will do it. I'm guilty of it. Should you be guilty, be an adult, apologize and drop it. I'm not saying you have to necessarily apologize to the person you went off on, I know that can be difficult :-), but an acknowledgment to the group that you messed up is probably in order.

And remember that most people find wxforum.net looking for help! Be gracious in offering that help. Because you may have answered the question a thousand times this month doesn't mean that the noob recognizes that. Should they have done a search? Probably, but that doesn't mean you have to be a jerk about it. In most cases a simple link to the post that answers the question is all that is needed.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherHost on September 06, 2008, 05:15:24 PM
Quote
I received an email from member of the forum that they were filing a law suit for the way they were treated by other members.


Sorry, but that's just silly, whoever you are/were.

If you don't like the responses you get (or don't get) on a board, there is no obligation for you to continue to visit that board.

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: sam2004gp on September 06, 2008, 05:20:39 PM
All are invited to join in the discussions .. we just ask that civility be the guiding principle on all postings.

Best regards,
Ken

It has been the extremely rare occasion (maybe one time a thread was shut down) that any of the administrators have had to resort to any heavy handed tactics here at wxforum.net. In all honesty this has probably been the easiest to administrate discusion board I've ever had the pleasure of being involved with.

We want to keep it that way, but the only way that can continue to happen is that we all practice respect and civility to one another. That has never really been an issue here, but as more and more folks join the potential for conflict rises as well. That's the nature of online discussion. Please try to remember:

There will be disagreements. That is the nature of discussion. There's no reason that they have to degrade into arguments though. I know from experience that this can be difficult. At some point in every group, if you hang around long enough, there will be someone that you just plain can not get along with. Ignore their posts if you can't be civil. There is no excuse for personal attacks. Take it offline if you must. The rest of us don't want to have to wade through a stinking pile.

At some point someone is going to write something that is going to tick you off. Almost all of us will make the mistake of pulling the trigger without stepping back and cooling down at some point. You might only do it once every 10 years, but most of us at some point will do it. I'm guilty of it. Should you be guilty, be an adult, apologize and drop it. I'm not saying you have to necessarily apologize to the person you went off on, I know that can be difficult :-), but an acknowledgment to the group that you messed up is probably in order.

And remember that most people find wxforum.net looking for help! Be gracious in offering that help. Because you may have answered the question a thousand times this month doesn't mean that the noob recognizes that. Should they have done a search? Probably, but that doesn't mean you have to be a jerk about it. In most cases a simple link to the post that answers the question is all that is needed.
=D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>


Amen, to every single word of it.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WXWP on September 06, 2008, 06:34:25 PM
Good Evening Folks...

I'm not here to point fingers, cause problems, etc. But I do want you all to know why I did what I did. This way nobody can be the preverbial hero for causing the 'reactor' to blow... So I just stopped by to say a few things and I'll be on my way. It was with deep regret we had to do what we did. But as you see in Ed's message here, there was a reason why I held the reigns so tight. It really had nothing to do with the recent email that one person sent to Ed, (although that was the final blow and decision.. you know who you were!).. but a collective barrage over the years and as you read, even threats to his family.

I know I'm probably hated by most here and that is ok. It is what I accepted to do and I expected no less if necessary. But his message depicted everything.
What I do in the realm of understanding protection, I do well. Sometimes what I have had to do was not easy because I'm not generally a hard arse. I did what I had to do to protect Ed's business, family and well being. It's what I'm good at.

There was a lot of jealousy through the years. Some that started these threats that were not just in the form of law suits. As you have seen above, the threats grew deeper than that. Like Ed said, it's suppose to be fun. But not everyone wanted to keep it that way.

Over the years, Ed and I have had quite a few arguments, and so on. If you were with VWS before the last forum, you'd always know that Ed got screwed over royally by a previous associate. (Did you know that he wanted to throw the towel in and give up on VWS because of all the grief? I'd like to believe I my pleaing with him helped keep it going - as I spent hours on the phone with him to talk him into staying with the project)...

As a result, I saw it in his and every bodies best interests that security be tight sometimes... People needed to be stifled, etc. Personally, I could care less what people have to say as long as they could do it without fighting and arguing. If I seen the slightest bit of disharmony, my red light went on and I tightened things down. Again, it's what I'm good at whether people liked it or not... here or in an outside world.

I'd like to apologize to everyone here and from the old forums... If it was any other place or reason, things would have been less strict and/or better.
For these reasons, we decided to pull the plug. Now you can understand I hope why Ed distant himself from the public. We all know we cannot please everyone in the world, but we tried. It broke my heart to pull the plug because I'd like to think I had friends there too. But again, nature of the beast and I knew what I was always in for. I had many people say thank you to me over the years as well as tell me they wouldn't have that job for anything. People that know me personally, know my capabilities and are happy to know I have their backs. I had Ed's family and business's back at all times with one mission in mind. Try to provide support where he could not and protect his interests from outside harm.

To the folks that were disgrunteled behind the lines, sent nasty emails, cursed me out. Now you can see what some people have already said, "You NEVER know what goes on behind the scenes and why things are the way they are". I'm sure most of you, if you'd have known why we were the way we were, you would have confided more in my decisions and backed off. But I never even told the moderators why I did what I did. Most of it till Ed's message was in confidentialty which I never broken unless necessary.

So let this be an end to all the good and bad... let VWS and all it's users reign and have fun... it's a great hobby and I'll miss a lot of you.
Thanks to my old moderators... I know we had moments.. but no hard feelings... If anyone needs me for anything I'm always around. Just drop me an email.
I think Anole said it right... listen and remember that there are others out there that have feelings too.

Take care and best regards, no hard feelings... and I have no grudges against anyone.

John, WXWP
 :-)
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: saratogaWX on September 06, 2008, 06:42:32 PM
Thanks for giving the insights, John!   I wholeheartedly agree that we're in it for the fun of discovery, learning and developing our personal weather hobby.  This forum has shown to be a good place for great discussions and we'll look forward to keeping it useful for weather enthusiasts by offering each other assistance along the way.

Best regards,
Ken
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on September 07, 2008, 01:07:50 AM
It truly is a bad situation when push comes to shove in any walk of life.. But it's almost becoming a way of life it seems.
Sometimes things get mis read or whatever and mushroom out of control from there. Whatever the case may be some one has to stop it...
sometimes for the protection of ..well sometimes almost life and property.

I hope I am not stepping on any toes or any thing with any posts I may make here. I always strive to help any one I can if possible.
Sometimes I have questions too but I will strive to make that as lesser amount as possible :grin:
Forums such as this and the other mention location are excellent outlets for information and in some cases it may be the only outlet for "sensible"
answers ..give the out sourcing that is being done now days..

Anyway..As the saying goes "All Good Things Must End"  that may be true but sometimes good things come from the ruins of others.!! That may very be demonstrated here!

Any thing I have ever learned is available if it'll help some one down the line.. After all isn't that what it's all about ?

With that being said.. I will shut up and get out of the way to make way for more informative and educational programming :grin:

Thanks In Advance For Everything!!

Wayne Thomas
www.smythweather.net
cw8217
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on September 07, 2008, 02:23:16 AM

I received an email from member of the forum that they were filing a law suit for the way they were treated by other members.  This is not the first threat I received (I actually had someone threaten my life, family and business that was a user of another competing software application that was banned from the forum).






I for one am glad that it didn't escalate into a much more serious situation as could have been the situation with the threats
Too much hostility in the world today  as a whole!

Wayne
www.wmythweather.net
Cw8217
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Clearsky on September 07, 2008, 09:09:45 AM
I have just found out about this new forum. I was a member on the ambient forum and found a great deal of help from some real clever guys. I am glad there is somewhere for a beginer like me to go once again when all goes pear shaped!!! :grin:
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: up10ad on September 07, 2008, 10:17:18 AM
Very interesting situation.  I'm still digesting it.  I am pleased that Ed himself took the time to explain the situation, it shows character, especially in light of his aversion to forum involvement.  Thanks Ed.  I'm sure VWS will get ample support in this venue, without the ever-present drama of the Ambient forum. 

Now let's make this the premier forum for weather enthusiasts!
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on September 07, 2008, 12:45:11 PM
I have just found out about this new forum. I was a member on the ambient forum and found a great deal of help from some real clever guys. I am glad there is somewhere for a beginner like me to go once again when all goes pear shaped!!! :grin:


Yep,
It sue would be tough to be right in the middle
of a fix or something and have that happen !
Hopefully no body was in that predicament!
It's definitely great to have a place to "hang out'
and at least ask for help or an answer to a question =D>
Ya never know it may turn out more educational
here than the other place ! Like so may other things
time alone can tell LOL!
Somewhat Ironic how I found the link for this place..I got it from the Ambient Forum
a month or s ago. I had noticed it several times but really didn't know if
it was for the general public or not but I finally decided it "should" be since it was advertised there
So I tried to sign up and  IT WORKED.. pretty much history from there to now :lol:
Glad they did let me in ! Hopefully we can all learn from each other and  It will be a great place

At any rate from one new person to another
Welcome  from here anyhow LOL!

Wayne
www.smythweather.net
cw8217
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on September 07, 2008, 12:53:04 PM
Very interesting situation.  I'm still digesting it.  I am pleased that Ed himself took the time to explain the situation, it shows character, especially in light of his aversion to forum involvement.  Thanks Ed.  I'm sure VWS will get ample support in this venue, without the ever-present drama of the Ambient forum. 

Now let's make this the premier forum for weather enthusiasts!


Absolutely!!
By Ed doing that there's no guesswork as to what happened. No more wondering
well..did I maybe do something, was it something I said  and so on!
Now it's all out in the open and everybody knows that it won't be back again!
But the good thing is  the software will hopefully be supported by the info given and hopefully here as well.
So it's time to do what you said  " Make this the premier forum for weather enthusiasts "


Wayne

www.smythweather.net

cw8217
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Moose Whisperer on September 07, 2008, 01:36:04 PM
Hi everyone.

Another refugee who found his way back to the light!  :grin:

Yep,
It sue would be tough to be right in the middle
of a fix or something and have that happen !
Hopefully no body was in that predicament!

Actually, I picked this weekend to move my VWS to a new computer! When I started to run into a few bugs, I remebered the "transferring VWS to another computer" thread on the old board and clicked on my old bookmark to become enlightened (I hadn't checked the Ambient board for a few months). Imagine my shock and horror to see the simple one line message "The Support Forum is no longer active".  :shock:

Fortunately, after a quick dose of panic, a few choice words, and several hours of frustration, I was able to get the transfer working. Shortly thereafter I stumbled in here. All is well. I look forward to hearing from all of you again!

Regards

Moose

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Clearsky on September 07, 2008, 02:01:11 PM
Thanks for the welcome Wayne, I am sure that all will go well here for us all. Touch wood everything is running well for me at the moment but as I have found out all that can :grin: change very quickly. Its nice to know there are those out there who can fix it for me!! :grin:
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on September 07, 2008, 02:12:11 PM
Glad to make your acquaintance Clear Sky !

The avatar picture on your profile..is that your dog??
Me being a dog lover I just had to ask. Mine is my latest Cocker Spaniel . He came from
a wonderful rescue group in New York.

Getting back to things running smooth.... If I could just keep my DSL connection running I'd be in great shape!
They have been workinmg on that since the inception for us and still haven't beaten the problem!

Was sure nice of the folks here to allow us refugees to cross their border and hopefully become citizens without
a green card  :lol:  or worse being shot at the fence  :lol:

Wayne

www.smythweather.net
cw8217
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Mark / Ohio on September 07, 2008, 03:23:03 PM
Welcome to the forum transplants!   ;)   :grin:

....I picked this weekend to move my VWS to a new computer! When I started to run into a few bugs, I remebered the "transferring VWS to another computer" thread on the old board and clicked on my old bookmark to become enlightened (I hadn't checked the Ambient board for a few months). Imagine my shock and horror to see the simple one line message "The Support Forum is no longer active".  :shock:....


Just incase you run into anymore bugs here's a link to Ed's VWS faq.

http://ambientweather.wikispaces.com/Virtual+Weather+Station

There's one specifically in there about moving VWS to a new computer.

http://ambientweather.wikispaces.com/Move+Virtual+Weather+Station+to+one+computer+to+another


Little late now I know.   #-o  But that faq list is going to be pretty valuable to all of us until more of the trials and tribulations are posted here.   :grin:
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: GregJ on September 07, 2008, 03:33:27 PM
What's with the dog avatars?..... In my case, you know what they say about the dog resembling their master :oops:... I just couldn't find a better picture....

Welcome.  I have been a member of both forums for some time now and have found WXforum to be just as informative... and a little more user friendly :-)

Greg
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Clearsky on September 07, 2008, 03:47:48 PM
Glad to make your acquaintance Clear Sky !

The avatar picture on your profile..is that your dog??
Me being a dog lover I just had to ask. Mine is my latest Cocker Spaniel . He came from
a wonderful rescue group in New York.

Getting back to things running smooth.... If I could just keep my DSL connection running I'd be in great shape!
They have been workinmg on that since the inception for us and still haven't beaten the problem!

Was sure nice of the folks here to allow us refugees to cross their border and hopefully become citizens without
a green card  :lol:  or worse being shot at the fence  :lol:

Wayne

www.smythweather.net
cw8217
Hi Wayne,

Yes to answer your question that is my dog. He is a 4 y.o Irish setter, we rescued him 2 years ago from a farm where he had been chained to a concrete filled oildrum with a 6 foot length of chain since he was a pup. He is mad but very loveable and great with kids.
i also have a springer spaniel which was also rescued from an uncaring home. i don't know about you but I prefer dogs to people any time!!!
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Clearsky on September 07, 2008, 03:52:25 PM
What's with the dog avatars?..... In my case, you know what they say about the dog resembling their master :oops:... I just couldn't find a better picture....

Welcome.  I have have been a member of both forums for some time now and have found WXforum to be just as informative... and a little more user friendly :-)

Greg

Hi Greg,
My wife tells me I look like mine too!! I hope I am a bit brighter though he is definitely not blessed with brains!!
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: GregJ on September 07, 2008, 04:01:53 PM
Quote
he is definitely not blessed with brains!!

That's too bad.  Whenever I get in trouble with my weather software, my dog always bails me out  ;).

Greg
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Moose Whisperer on September 07, 2008, 04:44:07 PM
Welcome to the forum transplants!   ;)   :grin:

Little late now I know.   #-o  But that faq list is going to be pretty valuable to all of us until more of the trials and tribulations are posted here.   :grin:

Yea, guess I really didn't search hard enough! Oh well, nuthing more satisfying than reinventing the wheel!  ](*,) As long as I'm at it though, it probably would be a good idea to get that thread started again back on this board.

Cheers
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Anole on September 07, 2008, 05:47:11 PM
I have just found out about this new forum.

Strictly speaking these forums aren't new. We've been here for a few years. The October 2007 dates you see in the stats represent the switch from phpBB to SMF for the forum software.

EDIT: Gary's original weatherforum.net was in place back as far as at least Oct. 2005 and maybe before that.

Regardless, welcome aboard :-)
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on September 07, 2008, 11:06:26 PM

Yes to answer your question that is my dog. He is a 4 y.o Irish setter, we rescued him 2 years ago from a farm where he had been chained to a concrete filled oildrum with a 6 foot length of chain since he was a pup. He is mad but very loveable and great with kids.
i also have a springer spaniel which was also rescued from an uncaring home. i don't know about you but I prefer dogs to people any time!!!


Hey that's great news!!!  We had a Golden retriever we once got from a friend who it actually came to during a bad thunderstorm. He was living in a place
where he could not care for the animal and we took her. She was a great weather dog! She could predict a severe thunder storm lots better than anything the NWS had!
She would get under our bed if it was going to be really bad  and as the storm neared she would yank the electrical plugs to the radio and such from the outlet with her mouth!  No kidding!
We had a close friend that had lots of room when at the time we weren't blessed with much and he had a fit over her so now she's living with them and having the time of her life!

I gotta agree with you I prefer dogs over a lot of the people you have to deal with in life !!!



Wayne
www.smythweather.net
cw8217
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on September 07, 2008, 11:09:44 PM
What's with the dog avatars?..... In my case, you know what they say about the dog resembling their master :oops:... I just couldn't find a better picture....

Welcome.  I have been a member of both forums for some time now and have found WXforum to be just as informative... and a little more user friendly :-)

Greg


Mine looks a bunch better than me  :lol:
Somewhere on the forum there is a picture to prove it..providing it hasn't been removed due to topic inactivity or something..
or worse damage to some ones eye sight!

Wayne
www.smythweather.net
cw8217
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: GregJ on September 08, 2008, 12:59:10 AM
I had a golden retriever that we just put down a couple of months ago.  He was terrified of power outages.  One morning I was in the shower and had just lathered up my head.  We have a walk in shower.   The power went out.  Before I could get the soap out of my eyes I had a wet dog standing in the shower with me shivering..... This is the same dog the UPS driver was afraid of......

Greg
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on September 08, 2008, 01:19:12 AM
Greg,
That's sad about your Golden.. Sorry to hear that!
My furs here are just like biological children! The wife and I have no children and
most likely will not have. I have heard talk before that animals (dogs) are dumb.
Animals are a lot smarter than some give credit!
I've just got to train one of mine to reset the DSL modem when it flops numerous times daily as it does!!
That would be the trick!!

Wayne
www.smythweather.net
cw8217
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherHost on September 08, 2008, 02:14:39 AM
I don't understand why boards like this generate drama.  I can understand it on generally social or political boards, but boards like this and Ambient are primarily technical focusing on product support.

I don't see room for drama.

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on September 08, 2008, 02:56:21 AM
I don't understand why boards like this generate drama.  I can understand it on generally social or political boards, but boards like this and Ambient are primarily technical focusing on product support.

I don't see room for drama.




 Sorry,
I didn't realize I was  that far out of line. :oops:
Sometimes I just go with the flow of things as they progress
and don't see the end. the last thing I want to do is create a problem here or anywhere else actually.


Wayne

www.smythweather.net
cw8217
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherHost on September 08, 2008, 03:20:24 AM
Huh?

I was referring to Ambient's board.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherHost on September 08, 2008, 05:46:21 AM
FYI to all, the "Support Forum" link on the Ambient website pages has been changed to an Ambient page listing four individual forums including this one.

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: kray1000 on September 08, 2008, 06:48:29 AM
http://www.ambientweather.com/westfo.html

It appears our forum is the only one that offers support for VWS.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: saratogaWX on September 08, 2008, 10:23:33 AM
http://www.ambientweather.com/westfo.html

It appears our forum is the only one that offers support for VWS.
Cool!  So with our fine membership, we will endeavor to provide that mutual assistance for and by weather enthusiasts. 

Best regards,
Ken
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on September 08, 2008, 11:16:23 AM
Huh?

I was referring to Ambient's board.

My bad here.. I guess it was later than I thought :lol:
And it had been one of those days where my brain was running on aux power ( if at all )
I just failed to see what your reply was intended to mean :oops:

At any rate it certainly is a good thing to have support for Ambient other than the
"official outlets" that Ed maintains if for no other reasons it should be quicker!
One person working toward answering questions is not match for many for sure.

I can say that personally the "data base" must be increasing ! I was inquiring about a problem
I have from time to time that I had touched on before over there and never really got much response .
I got a response quick from a person here who was experiencing the same problem!
Now I know it's not totally isolated to my setup :grin:

Wayne
www.smythweather.net
cw8217
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: FishDude on September 08, 2008, 12:56:43 PM
I got a response quick from a person here who was experiencing the same problem!


I just chuckled as I read this line. This was my expirience as well. After several attempts on the "official" site I was told over & over I was alone and no one else had reported said problem. Checked my computer, checked my ISP, checked I had things installed properly. Always seemed like you where pointed to anything other than "The Weather Software". :?

It is similiar to the Linux communities which have popped up. Some are all arrogant techies and tell you to RTFM, others seem to have an atmosphere where everyone tries to help!

Thanks to all here for the help!
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on September 08, 2008, 02:29:10 PM
I agree 100 % :-D :-D :-D


Wayne
www.smythweather.net
cw8217
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: AL Estep on September 08, 2008, 07:35:32 PM
Until I found a link to this weather forum from the Ambient wikipedia I felt totally abandoned, I really enjoyed the years with the Ambient weather forumn, I didn't post much unless i felt I could really add value to the question.

However I did get a lot of help reading all the posts and following the links given.

I currently post my weather to:
Weather underground
CWOP
weaterhforyou

I hope that we could move some of the data from that Ambient forum, but as I have seen posted in this link that probably will not happen. We spent a lot of time putting in all of that data, it is a shame to loose it.

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherHost on September 09, 2008, 01:41:21 AM

Quote
I hope that we could move some of the data from that Ambient forum, but as I have seen posted in this link that probably will not happen. We spent a lot of time putting in all of that data, it is a shame to loose it.

If it's still on the sever and hasn't been deleted, it could be imported.

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: EKB on September 09, 2008, 06:20:27 PM
SLOweather/Carndt/Chris and everyone else that supports this board

Thanks for the new home. 

I've never been a huge source for new posts, but I have enjoyed many hours reading about everyone's experiences with their stations, cameras, etc.  I was sad when I got the "forum down" banner at AmbientSupport.  I happened on this site with a lucky google search and discovered that I had missed the links on the wiki page.   There is no way to place a value on the help that is available through a board like this, and I just wanted to add my voice to the others that have said thanks.

Thank You all.

EKB
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: DataCrunchTech on September 10, 2008, 12:21:44 AM
Hi!  I'm here to help with ImageSalsa and MovieSalsa questions.

Regarding the avatar and username:

A few years ago, I finally got around to registering a fictitious business name for ImageSalsa and MovieSalsa's parent company.  Hence, Data Crunch Technologies.  The web site has been a long time under snail-pace development, but hopefully this will provide the catalyst for me to get some work done on it :)
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Mark / Ohio on September 10, 2008, 12:25:39 AM
Hi!  I'm here to help with ImageSalsa and MovieSalsa questions.

Regarding the avatar and username:

A few years ago, I finally got around to registering a fictitious business name for ImageSalsa and MovieSalsa's parent company.  Hence, Data Crunch Technologies.  The web site has been a long time under snail-pace development, but hopefully this will provide the catalyst for me to get some work done on it :)

Welcome to the forum Jason!   UU
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: saratogaWX on September 10, 2008, 12:27:50 AM
I've set up a new ImageSalsa/MovieSalsa board (http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?board=94.0) in the VWS/Ambient set.

Welcome to the forum Jason!!

Best regards,
Ken
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: George Richardson on September 10, 2008, 08:00:40 AM
VERY Glad to have you aboard Jason.
George
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Majic12 on September 10, 2008, 03:20:09 PM
Hey you all are back...

I dont care what drama went down but I know all the valuable info that was lost will quickly be reborn with all the great helpers that I see here ...

Thank you for helping me a ton in the past and as always I hope to help someone in the future here...

mdelisi...

I am using a new name now...

good times
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Mark / Ohio on September 11, 2008, 12:17:59 AM
Welcome to the forum mdelisi!   UU
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: TrevorG on September 12, 2008, 01:02:55 AM
I'd just like to thank Ed and John and the rest of the crew that made for a fine forum @ AmbientWx.  It's sad to see it go, but with the assistance of WXForum, I think we're on the road to recovery.  Ed, Thank you for the endless, tireless devotion to making your products what they are today.  God bless all in your endeavors!  -Trevor
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: KeaWeather on September 13, 2008, 02:54:52 AM
I am here as well.

Is there a topic in this forum where you can add your website address and location? It used to be there in ambient.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherHost on September 13, 2008, 03:44:20 AM
I am here as well.

Is there a topic in this forum where you can add your website address and location? It used to be there in ambient.


http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?board=28.0


Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherHost on September 14, 2008, 04:35:30 AM
Has the Ambient board DB been dumped?

If not, is there any chance to retrieve and import some of those threads that had tips and reference information?

 
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: kray1000 on September 14, 2008, 07:27:03 AM
I'm guessing that the board is the property of Ambient, and that Ed is unlikely to release it.

Maybe a call to Ed can answer that question.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: racenet on September 14, 2008, 08:23:51 AM
Has the Ambient board DB been dumped?

If not, is there any chance to retrieve and import some of those threads that had tips and reference information?

The Ambient forum has been closed and is gone.



Bob

 
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherHost on September 14, 2008, 08:26:31 AM
Has the Ambient board DB been dumped?

If not, is there any chance to retrieve and import some of those threads that had tips and reference information?

The Ambient forum has been closed and is gone.

Bob

I understand it's closed, but that doesn't mean the entire MySQL database of posts has been dumped.  Has anybody bothered to ask?

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: SLOweather on September 14, 2008, 10:26:10 AM

I understand it's closed, but that doesn't mean the entire MySQL database of posts has been dumped.  Has anybody bothered to ask?


I'll ask...
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: racenet on September 14, 2008, 10:33:38 AM
Has the Ambient board DB been dumped?

If not, is there any chance to retrieve and import some of those threads that had tips and reference information?

The Ambient forum has been closed and is gone.

Bob

I understand it's closed, but that doesn't mean the entire MySQL database of posts has been dumped.  Has anybody bothered to ask?



Closed and GONE is what I said.  :roll:

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: NiceBill on September 14, 2008, 10:39:04 AM
Has the Ambient board DB been dumped?

If not, is there any chance to retrieve and import some of those threads that had tips and reference information?

The Ambient forum has been closed and is gone.

Bob

I understand it's closed, but that doesn't mean the entire MySQL database of posts has been dumped.  Has anybody bothered to ask?



Closed and GONE is what I said.  :roll:




CaPesha!!!!!!!!!!! ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: racenet on September 14, 2008, 11:32:17 AM
Has the Ambient board DB been dumped?

If not, is there any chance to retrieve and import some of those threads that had tips and reference information?

The Ambient forum has been closed and is gone.

Bob

I understand it's closed, but that doesn't mean the entire MySQL database of posts has been dumped.  Has anybody bothered to ask?



Closed and GONE is what I said.  :roll:




CaPesha!!!!!!!!!!! ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

Well Bill, what did you expect.  ](*,) :roll:

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: kray1000 on September 14, 2008, 11:45:40 AM
It's starting to feel a lot like winter around here...
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: NiceBill on September 14, 2008, 12:06:35 PM
Has the Ambient board DB been dumped?

If not, is there any chance to retrieve and import some of those threads that had tips and reference information?

The Ambient forum has been closed and is gone.

Bob

I understand it's closed, but that doesn't mean the entire MySQL database of posts has been dumped.  Has anybody bothered to ask?



Closed and GONE is what I said.  :roll:




CaPesha!!!!!!!!!!! ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

Well Bill, what did you expect.  ](*,) :roll:



The note was with regard to "Has anybody bothered to ask?"  and your "Closed and GONE is what I said.  :roll:"

Nothing else was implied  :lol:




Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: ironton on September 14, 2008, 01:01:56 PM
I know of an archive service (maybe others exist) that saves a snapshot of web pages.  I did a Google search and found it here:
http://www.archive.org/index.php

I entered www(.)ambientweather(.)com and got some results.

This link shows a list of dates when the ambient weather page was archived.
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.ambientweather.com/

I used the links in the most recent archived web page to find the Ambient Weather forum login page.  That page is here:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080202171206/ambientwxsupport.com/smf/index.php

I don't remember my login/password so I did not attempt to log in to this archive page. 
I have no idea if it will work - but someone that remembers their login might try.
-ed

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: saratogaWX on September 14, 2008, 07:27:58 PM
I too looked in the Google search cache and archive services, but to no avail -- the Ambient forum required member login in order to view the content, so all the archived pages (irrespective of topic) will contain the Login page contents .. just the way it worked.  Attempting login to a cached page in the archive or on Google will not work.. there's nothing for the page to connect to in order to process the request.

My understanding is that the DB for the old Ambient forum is not available and there is really no benefit to anyone in mourning (or decrying) it's unavailability. 

It's time to start building a new KB here.

Best regards,
Ken
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: SLOweather on September 14, 2008, 08:10:21 PM

My understanding is that the DB for the old Ambient forum is not available and there is really no benefit to anyone in mourning (or decrying) it's unavailability. 


Yup. Verified that with WXWP today. It's all been deleted. Time to let it go.

Quote

It's time to start building a new KB here.


Agreed. I'll start a thread of things people want to know, or contributed over time, so we can all figure out what we have to contribute.

Chris
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W3DRM on September 14, 2008, 11:32:02 PM
WOW - I haven't visited this forum or the Ambient Forum for quite some time and had the same feeling as many others about the demise of the Ambient Forum. At first I thought I had entered the wrong URL. After several attempts I actually read what had come up and then quickly switched over to this one to see if there was any news.

I am sorry to see the Ambient Forum gone (and the loss of so much good information) but really happy that there is now a single weather forum that covers all of the software offerings. It really makes it easier for everyone to go to one source for information.

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherHost on September 15, 2008, 01:20:21 AM
Has the Ambient board DB been dumped?

If not, is there any chance to retrieve and import some of those threads that had tips and reference information?

The Ambient forum has been closed and is gone.

Bob

I understand it's closed, but that doesn't mean the entire MySQL database of posts has been dumped.  Has anybody bothered to ask?



Closed and GONE is what I said.  :roll:




CaPesha!!!!!!!!!!! ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

Well Bill, what did you expect.  ](*,) :roll:




Considering the events over there and reason for the shutdown, don't you think a better response would have been "Yes, we've checked and the database has been deleted so we are unable to import anything from there." ?
 
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: racenet on September 15, 2008, 11:13:38 AM
Has the Ambient board DB been dumped?

If not, is there any chance to retrieve and import some of those threads that had tips and reference information?

The Ambient forum has been closed and is gone.

Bob

I understand it's closed, but that doesn't mean the entire MySQL database of posts has been dumped.  Has anybody bothered to ask?



Closed and GONE is what I said.  :roll:




CaPesha!!!!!!!!!!! ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

Well Bill, what did you expect.  ](*,) :roll:




Considering the events over there and reason for the shutdown, don't you think a better response would have been "Yes, we've checked and the database has been deleted so we are unable to import anything from there." ?
 

Nope, not in the least. Why? Because I didn't have to check. I knew beyond a doubt it was gone. Even if it wasn't, I knew things wouldn't have been allowed to be imported here. As for the reasons why it was shut down, the ones that brought the demise that hang here, you know who you are, and so do I. We will just leave it at that.



Bob



Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: superduty on October 15, 2008, 01:02:36 AM
I was Superduty over there and am Superduty over here.  Whenever I had an issue a search usually solved my problems......glad you guys are here, now.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: WeatherAnomaly on October 15, 2008, 08:32:40 AM
All

I'm so glad I found you all! I just finally ordered my Davis WX to replace my old LaCrosse. I wanted to look up some info on setting up the data logger and BOOM ...no more Forum. Great timing eh? Anyway, it good to see everyone here. The one bummer is that we have all lost our status...Sr Drip, Jr drip...etc... :( ...but at least I was still able to keep my handle.

Charley (WeatherAnomaly)
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Mark / Ohio on October 15, 2008, 10:50:31 PM
I was Superduty over there and am Superduty over here.  Whenever I had an issue a search usually solved my problems......glad you guys are here, now.


All

I'm so glad I found you all! I just finally ordered my Davis WX to replace my old LaCrosse. I wanted to look up some info on setting up the data logger and BOOM ...no more Forum. Great timing eh? Anyway, it good to see everyone here. The one bummer is that we have all lost our status...Sr Drip, Jr drip...etc... :( ...but at least I was still able to keep my handle.

Charley (WeatherAnomaly)


Welcome and glad you found us.   UU
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: vcbmoore on October 21, 2008, 01:11:06 PM
I'm in shock :shock:  I hadn't been on the Ambient Forum in quite some time.  What a shame!  I was not a frequent poster but I learned tons because of the collective knowledge base.  It's great to see many of the members over here now.  Thanks everyone for providing a new home.

Bill
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: rserkes on January 15, 2009, 01:46:59 AM
I wondered where the support forum went.  I'm glad I found you folks.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: sam2004gp on January 15, 2009, 09:10:53 AM
Welcome aboard.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: racenet on January 15, 2009, 09:22:50 AM
I wondered where the support forum went.  I'm glad I found you folks.

Welcome!

It was shut down by the owner because of irrate users calling him, yelling & screaming, making demands and threating legal action. Legal action because they didn't get their way. He said the hell with this and pulled the plug.


Bob
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: jwyman on January 15, 2009, 09:40:27 AM
I wondered where the support forum went.  I'm glad I found you folks.

Welcome!

It was shut down by the owner because of irrate users calling him, yelling & screaming, making demands and threating legal action. Legal action because they didn't get their way. He said the hell with this and pulled the plug.


Bob


Kids, they crack me up!  :-P
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: racenet on January 15, 2009, 09:45:47 AM
I wondered where the support forum went.  I'm glad I found you folks.

Welcome!

It was shut down by the owner because of irrate users calling him, yelling & screaming, making demands and threating legal action. Legal action because they didn't get their way. He said the hell with this and pulled the plug.


Bob


Kids, they crack me up!  :-P

LOL

The bad thing was, it wasn't kids. It was full grown, senior men.  ](*,)

Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: jwyman on January 15, 2009, 11:36:04 AM
Exactly! KIDS!!!!!!!!!  :-P
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: FishDude on January 16, 2009, 08:42:15 AM
Exactly! KIDS!!!!!!!!!  :-P

Everyone blames the kids these days, I think this more of a parental problem myself! LOL.

Parenting requires thick skin doesn't it? :-P
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Mark / Ohio on January 16, 2009, 09:17:51 PM
The apple seldom falls far from the tree.   ;)
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: dsscheibe on January 25, 2009, 10:44:34 PM
I just found out the ambient forum was gone..  Also his blog hasn't been updated http://ambientweather.blogspot.com/ (http://ambientweather.blogspot.com/) hasn't been updated since March of 2007..

Anyone know what the current stable version is?  I am running Davis 14.00 P35 http://www.ambientweather.com/versionhistory.html (http://www.ambientweather.com/versionhistory.html)  says 14.00p022 is the current version.  Wouldn't P35 be newer than 022?
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: W Thomas on January 26, 2009, 07:42:21 AM
I just found out the ambient forum was gone.. 


Welcome To The Group!!!
The shutdown was a shock and surprise to many..including myself.
After hearing the actual reason it was obvious why it happened.

A lot of valuable data was lost over there but I do believe we have gained most all of it plus  a bunch more here!
The combined experience here makes for an extremely knowledgeable forum ! About all the answers are here or can be found through here :)
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: weathermayhem on November 08, 2011, 07:01:40 PM
So you know how to set Wuhu up in conjunction with VWS, with no errors?
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: DrBailey on January 11, 2012, 10:24:37 AM
Welcome to the forum transplants!   ;)   :grin:

....I picked this weekend to move my VWS to a new computer! When I started to run into a few bugs, I remebered the "transferring VWS to another computer" thread on the old board and clicked on my old bookmark to become enlightened (I hadn't checked the Ambient board for a few months). Imagine my shock and horror to see the simple one line message "The Support Forum is no longer active".  :shock:....


Just incase you run into anymore bugs here's a link to Ed's VWS faq.

http://ambientweather.wikispaces.com/Virtual+Weather+Station

There's one specifically in there about moving VWS to a new computer.

http://ambientweather.wikispaces.com/Move+Virtual+Weather+Station+to+one+computer+to+another


Little late now I know.   #-o  But that faq list is going to be pretty valuable to all of us until more of the trials and tribulations are posted here.   :grin:

Thanks Mark
 I to am changing computers for my PWS, and getting everything back on line.
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: Mark / Ohio on January 16, 2012, 01:10:52 AM
....Thanks Mark
 I to am changing computers for my PWS, and getting everything back on line.

If you need any moral or technical support just holler.   ;)
Title: Re: Welcome to all former members of the discontinued VWS forum!
Post by: pomonabill221 on November 13, 2014, 03:53:25 PM
Quote
I received an email from member of the forum that they were filing a law suit for the way they were treated by other members.


Sorry, but that's just silly, whoever you are/were.

If you don't like the responses you get (or don't get) on a board, there is no obligation for you to continue to visit that board.

I know this is a VERY old post, but how much "water" would this hold???  After all, it is a post in a public forum!  GEEZZZ!!!!  Why do people think they can threaten others on a forum?  stupid!

Oh well... we all go on!  \:D/