Topic: Brief introduction Ecowitt HP10

[olicat]

Hi!

Previously, it was possible to access photos and timelapse videos at Ecowitt.net that were up to 30 days old.
But now there is only a holding time of 7 days - older photos/videos are apparently deleted automatically.
I don't know if this is only a temporary problem and have asked Ecowitt about this.
I think 7 days is clearly too short. What do you think?

Regards, Oliver

[Rover1822]

Oliver, what is the interval between images in the time lapse?
Also, is there a time stamp on the individual streamed images?

I'm not buying one, just curious

[olicat]

Hi!

5min interval (configurable: 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, off).
In addition to the name of the camera on the left, the date/time is also displayed on the right.

Regards, Oliver

[Rover1822]

Nice image of, darkness

I can imagine the conundrum on their end for storage of the images, unknown potential # of users , etc.

I only store 24 hours for mine at most in my custom set up with a a beach camera (need to go work on that, time, time , time , I don't have)

But I store 1 minute intervals, and offer a 4 hour lapse and a 24 lapse , from the same image storage that is a FIFO. What I do for the 24 hour is skip X number of images on the playback, to make the view shorter, the 4 hour runs at file storage time. So I store 1440 images in a FIFO rotation.

I feel their pain on the time lapse

[Platokidd]

Hi!

Previously, it was possible to access photos and timelapse videos at Ecowitt.net that were up to 30 days old.
But now there is only a holding time of 7 days - older photos/videos are apparently deleted automatically.
I don't know if this is only a temporary problem and have asked Ecowitt about this.
I think 7 days is clearly too short. What do you think?

Regards, Oliver

Think I was the 2nd or 3rd in the U.S. to have the HP10, or at least that share public on the ecowitt  map. Yes they shorten the images length to 7 days. You can download the images or days. Cheap camera with nice footage and easy to setup.

[box]

Nice image of, darkness

I can imagine the conundrum on their end for storage of the images, unknown potential # of users , etc.

I only store 24 hours for mine at most in my custom set up with a a beach camera (need to go work on that, time, time , time , I don't have)

But I store 1 minute intervals, and offer a 4 hour lapse and a 24 lapse , from the same image storage that is a FIFO. What I do for the 24 hour is skip X number of images on the playback, to make the view shorter, the 4 hour runs at file storage time. So I store 1440 images in a FIFO rotation.

I feel their pain on the time lapse

How do you store FIFO - is that an option with the software you use or the NAS/storage device? Or a cron job/script?

[Rover1822]

Nice image of, darkness

I can imagine the conundrum on their end for storage of the images, unknown potential # of users , etc.

I only store 24 hours for mine at most in my custom set up with a a beach camera (need to go work on that, time, time , time , I don't have)

But I store 1 minute intervals, and offer a 4 hour lapse and a 24 lapse , from the same image storage that is a FIFO. What I do for the 24 hour is skip X number of images on the playback, to make the view shorter, the 4 hour runs at file storage time. So I store 1440 images in a FIFO rotation.

I feel their pain on the time lapse

How do you store FIFO - is that an option with the software you use or the NAS/storage device? Or a cron job/script?

Please understand this is not using the HP10. Just a security cam. I use an NVR software (Blue Iris) , I think Zone minder could do the same. But this is a custom setup with a generic security cam that is ONVIF capable. Not related , again, to the capabilities of the HP10


I was just curious on how Ecowitt.net was doing their time lapse,

As far as the HP10, for me, the only advantage would be to post to Ecowitt.net. That is only for me, for others, all they need.

[box]

Nice image of, darkness

I can imagine the conundrum on their end for storage of the images, unknown potential # of users , etc.

I only store 24 hours for mine at most in my custom set up with a a beach camera (need to go work on that, time, time , time , I don't have)

But I store 1 minute intervals, and offer a 4 hour lapse and a 24 lapse , from the same image storage that is a FIFO. What I do for the 24 hour is skip X number of images on the playback, to make the view shorter, the 4 hour runs at file storage time. So I store 1440 images in a FIFO rotation.

I feel their pain on the time lapse

How do you store FIFO - is that an option with the software you use or the NAS/storage device? Or a cron job/script?

Please understand this is not using the HP10. Just a security cam. I use an NVR software (Blue Iris) , I think Zone minder could do the same. But this is a custom setup with a generic security cam that is ONVIF capable. Not related , again, to the capabilities of the HP10


I was just curious on how Ecowitt.net was doing their time lapse,

As far as the HP10, for me, the only advantage would be to post to Ecowitt.net. That is only for me, for others, all they need.

Ah, thanks

[Rover1822]

I would be interested in the HP10 if it supported standard protocols . Better would be the ability to upload my own images to Ecowitt.net from my existing cams. But I get it.

Edit: It would take a lot of server side work on their end to accept images from generic cams even if they set the parameters for someone to send, like resolution, frequency and file size. There would be a bunch of error checking for each cam upload, and increased support time. So if you limit it to your own device, you get multiple wins. 1) You get the revenue from the cam sale 2) You don't get the headache of some numb nuts like me trying to upload from a generic system and trying to support it as you own the ecosystem.  Pretty much why I think WU dropped the whole web cam thing, and I get it.

[BaseLine]

Wow, the curvature is quite bad. But not uncommon with that quality camera.

My security cam that I use is not much better , about the same price, with more functions.

...

EW's HP10 has a super cheap 180 and yours has a 80 deg "lens". Of course 180 looks horrible. 180 looks bad even with a good lens.
150 seems to be max.

[olicat]

Hi!

I have now published my current solution for my own webcam images and time-lapse videos here.
Maybe it will help someone for their own solution.

Oliver

[zoomx]

Looking inside the firmware binary I found that it is definitively and ESP32 that seems programmed using Arduino ESP32 core, maybe the Arduino IDE.

[Nate R]

I haven't found an answer anywhere....does this camera work below 0 deg C, or does it shut off at cold temperatures?

-Nate

[Gyvate]

someone has to find out by experiment - officially its temperature range for operation is 0 °C thru +50 °C.

[Nate R]

someone has to find out by experiment - officially its temperature range for operation is 0 °C thru +50 °C.

OK, I guess I'll be that someone. 

Ordered a GW2000 and a WH32 as well as an HP10 to try out the Ecowitt system. I'll report back how the camera does in cold weather.

[Platokidd]

Got the HP-10 in September 2022. It worked well during the winter months here in Chicagoland. Even in temps below freezing down to -9F (-22c).

[Nate R]

Got the HP-10 in September 2022. It worked well during the winter months here in Chicagoland. Even in temps below freezing down to -9F (-22c).

Thanks, good to know!

Got my GW2000, WH32 and my HP 10 today, so I'll get them tested this week, and then hook them up at my cabin.

[Nate R]

I've got my HP10 set up, and currently set to 20 minute intervals to conserve power. (on a battery system...will be grid connected soon.)
I'm finding the EcoWitt generated daily video to be.....odd. When I go to view the timelapse video, it starts out fine, but then gets very pixelated and blurry by the middle of the day or so. If I look at the individual images/photos, they are clear. The video is just as clear to begin with.
Has anyone noticed this? When I look at other cameras on the map, it doesn't seem to happen to the effect I'm seeing on my own, not even close.

Thoughts? Is this an artifact of using 20 minutes instead of 5? Why would it do this?

https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index2?id=152666

[G.Brown]

Got the HP-10 in September 2022. It worked well during the winter months here in Chicagoland. Even in temps below freezing down to -9F (-22c).

Thing I notice when I've been mucking around with my HP10 is that it is always quite warm - having tried all 3 available lenses - the heat sink on the back of the lens is always going to keep it above freezing and may even stop snow build up ...haha famous last words....

[olicat]

Hi!

having tried all 3 available lenses

What do you mean with "available lenses"? Which lenses are available and where?

Oliver

[G.Brown]

well the third is the one that it comes with but here are the other two.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154631011999?var=454711871442

The smallest one pictured needs a spacer - I just used the rubber grommet out of a gland.

[Rover1822]

That appears to be a complete element (Ebay) not a lens , maybe I saw it wrong

[G.Brown]

? well it comes with a ribbon connector if that's what you mean.

[Rover1822]

yep, that is what I meant. Differentiates it from a lens, which I would think of as an augmentation or add on , well lens. That unit looks like you have to tear the unit apart and run the connector. A lens augmentation, for something like this , I would expect to be something like a stick on item, similar to what they sell for cell phones. That is an element replacement , I believe

Sorry, bit of a camera buff.

[G.Brown]

top one is what it comes with, other ones lens is slightly thinner but I didn't have any problems with heat disipation, I suppose you should really pack it slightly to match,  there seems to be some sticky heat disiptive tape on the heat sink.
Third one is in my camera at the moment and is the best for close up - I intend pointing it at my bee hive....