I appreciate the help very much. The Envoy is now updated to 1.9 as well as both concoles. ( I didn't want v3+ because if I remember it doesn't work with VVPRO) Everything is working normally (well what passes for normal here). The WiFi logger is now showing the correct time/date at the top of the real time screen. After all this i can at last recite my motto......"Now Where Was I ? " Oh yeah... working in a little weather project.