Topic: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison

[Kallo78]

Report of yesterday

[Jasper3012]

Data from yesterday, Nov 3rd.

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[Dvalente75]

My yesterday report

[Kallo78]

Report yesterday. Wind that in the morning got up early enough so no particular signal

[mauro63]

mine yesterday report

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M.

[Jasper3012]

Data from yesterday, Nov 4th. Relentless low cloud and mist here, today is the 5th day with zero sunshine in a row and there is no sun expected until Saturday. This has resulted and will continue to result in negligible differences between the shields.

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[mauro63]

Mine yesterday data

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M.

[mauro63]

Still yesterday, with data sampling at 1 minute and obviously with reference to temperature only, at the moment

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M.

[Dvalente75]

My yesterday report

[tobyportugal]

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[mauro63]

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And??

[tobyportugal]

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And??

Simply for better visibility between the 2 graphics.
Everyone will make their own analysis, even if it's a fairly ordinary day.

[mauro63]

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And??

Simply for better visibility between the 2 graphics.
Everyone will make their own analysis, even if it's a fairly ordinary day.

Thank you very much, I will try to do the same thing in the next reports, but it is a little difficult for me to integrate it into the spreadsheet, I will try

Obviously, as you might expect, you get a much more irregular and nervous curve, we are talking about over 1400 detections compared to the 288 of the first graph, and it is therefore likely to be able to obtain some more data that can be lost in the 5-minute sampling.

In practice, however, the substance does not change.

Waiting to receive your reports relating to your comparisons that we will be happy to analyze, even if not in this post

M.

[tobyportugal]

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And??

Simply for better visibility between the 2 graphics.
Everyone will make their own analysis, even if it's a fairly ordinary day.

Thank you very much, I will try to do the same thing in the next reports, but it is a little difficult for me to integrate it into the spreadsheet, I will try

Obviously, as you might expect, you get a much more irregular and nervous curve, we are talking about over 1400 detections compared to the 288 of the first graph, and it is therefore likely to be able to obtain some more data that can be lost in the 5-minute sampling.

In practice, however, the substance does not change.

Waiting to receive your reports relating to your comparisons that we will be happy to analyze, even if not in this post

M.

Comparisons are not my priority at the moment.
Finalising my new sensors and a process (pulse generator test) for mounting a rain gauge. 

https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZwhrX5ZFn1oDrVXwkjERH1H9WuNRFJ70qy7
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZqhrX5Z00W26ClvD8Fqk24yVjkdob7E0PdV
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ6hrX5ZPSmBa9AIYSVqOgRL3nzYRmWu4cJk
Note the radiation from a single lamp
@jasper no stress: I'll shut up now

[mauro63]

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And??

Simply for better visibility between the 2 graphics.
Everyone will make their own analysis, even if it's a fairly ordinary day.

Thank you very much, I will try to do the same thing in the next reports, but it is a little difficult for me to integrate it into the spreadsheet, I will try

Obviously, as you might expect, you get a much more irregular and nervous curve, we are talking about over 1400 detections compared to the 288 of the first graph, and it is therefore likely to be able to obtain some more data that can be lost in the 5-minute sampling.

In practice, however, the substance does not change.

Waiting to receive your reports relating to your comparisons that we will be happy to analyze, even if not in this post

M.

Comparisons are not my priority at the moment.
Finalising my new sensors and a process (pulse generator test) for mounting a rain gauge. 

https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZwhrX5ZFn1oDrVXwkjERH1H9WuNRFJ70qy7
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZqhrX5Z00W26ClvD8Fqk24yVjkdob7E0PdV
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZ6hrX5ZPSmBa9AIYSVqOgRL3nzYRmWu4cJk
Note the radiation from a single lamp
@jasper no stress: I'll shut up now

Very well, I wish you good work

M.

[Kallo78]

My report of Yesterday

[mauro63]

yesterday report

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M.

[mauro63]

Yesterday's report in two versions, with sampling at 5 minutes and at 1 minute

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M.

[Jasper3012]

Same old same old here with endless cloud and fog so little point in posting my data. I’ll be back once there’s something interesting to report.

[Kallo78]

Report of yestarday. Nothing of interesting

[tobyportugal]

Some people are allergic to Barani, but I think everyone agrees that Barani respects the WMO standards.
Here's an example from my home on the Atlantic coast, comparing shelters with the method (1 x 5 min) that I used before is totally wrong.
Look at the fluctuations in radiation and temperature over 10 minutes.
See the differences according to location.

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[mauro63]

Some people are allergic to Barani, but I think everyone agrees that Barani respects the WMO standards.
Here's an example from my home on the Atlantic coast, comparing shelters with the method (1 x 5 min) that I used before is totally wrong.
Look at the fluctuations in radiation and temperature over 10 minutes.
See the differences according to location.

Aside from that I can't understand the focus of the post, but it's certainly my limit, apart from the fact that I have no allergies to the pro that I've been using since the first version and with maximum satisfaction, even if I don't close the door to any alternatives, if valid.

Aside from all this I don't understand what correlation there is with the post

M.

[Jasper3012]

Some people are allergic to Barani, but I think everyone agrees that Barani respects the WMO standards.
Here's an example from my home on the Atlantic coast, comparing shelters with the method (1 x 5 min) that I used before is totally wrong.
Look at the fluctuations in radiation and temperature over 10 minutes.
See the differences according to location.

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I honestly have no idea what you're trying to show with your comments and the images and this isn't the first time I've felt that way after a post of yours... Please try to make your posts clearer.

[tobyportugal]

My English is very bad.
I'm just trying to show that a comparison of shelters with a single measurement every 5 minutes is no good. It's too random.
This method is sufficient for stable weather conditions.
Look at the fluctuations in temperature (minimum, average, maximum) and radiation in the 10-minute interval on Helix.
With a measurement every 5 minutes (i.e. 1 measurement every 8 minutes) it's impossible to know whether this measurement is before/during/after the fluctuation.
If we add to this the ‘personality’ of each shelter (slower, faster, etc.), we have too many uncertainties to draw any conclusions using this method.
A simple example, 3 different days, data from the same sensor (Pro3 SHT45) but Ecowitt export from 2 different gateways.
It's easy to see the problem of consistency due to the single value every 5 minutes.
Have a nice weekend.
PS: please, no polemics.

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[Kallo78]

Report of yesterday. Grey period with very little radiation. Almost no deviations between the two systems!