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Re: Barani: too good to be true...
« Reply #750 on: June 24, 2025, 02:22:47 AM »
A colleague and I bought a Smart Cellino and he is testing in western Poland. He used to own 2 Ms Pro III's and found that SC performs better than Ms Pro III at a low radiation angle. He has an Apogee TS-100 and a Davis FARS24H on one mast. I don't have my Smart Cellino, but I may borrow from it in the future.
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Re: Barani: too good to be true...
« Reply #751 on: June 24, 2025, 02:50:26 AM »
Yesterday the sun went lower and lower. No wind at sunset and a hot day. Overheating on the Barani Ms Pro III was clearly visible. Details below. The phenomenon persisted for several hours. It did not affect t- max. It even exceeded 0.4-0.6 degrees C at its peak on SHT35.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: ](*,)You haven't yet understood that the main problem is that you never talk about determining the dry/wet/frosty state of the interior/exterior of the shelters with different timings from one shelter to another, but hey, the pros are your friends.
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Re: Barani: too good to be true...
« Reply #752 on: June 24, 2025, 05:28:38 AM »
The low angle problem really exists in the Barani Ms Pro III. It manifests itself in different conditions. Most passives suffer from it, but to varying degrees.
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Re: Barani: too good to be true...
« Reply #753 on: June 24, 2025, 05:59:17 AM »
The low angle problem really exists in the Barani Ms Pro III. It manifests itself in different conditions. Most passives suffer from it, but to varying degrees.

 :?: :?:  Except that even among professionals, i have yet to see any publications with precise work that allows us to distinguish between actual differences in shelters that are all completely dry in low sunlight and not at all damp internally with different timing, or with a wind blowing in the opposite direction at sunrise (or vice versa at sunset). So it's not easy to know if it's only the sun angle that plays a role in comparisons without weather conditions that are often quite dry at the end of the night with calm winds, without controlling for the different end times of internal/external mooring of the shelters being compared, and it's certainly not your screenshots here that demonstrate this........ a word to the wise \:D/ \:D/


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Re: Barani: too good to be true...
« Reply #754 on: June 24, 2025, 06:40:38 AM »
Here the situation was after a hot day at the end of the day. The wind weakened and even quieted. The sun shone at a low angle into the plates.
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Re: Barani: too good to be true...
« Reply #755 on: June 24, 2025, 06:49:06 AM »
 #-o send MP =D>
do you go there x times during each period of calm wind affected by a fairly low sun? I have a doubt, so as I already said, it is not a given to know if it is indeed only the solar angle that plays a role in your comparisons
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Re: Barani: too good to be true...
« Reply #756 on: June 25, 2025, 12:09:18 AM »
In other places in Poland, we have also seen this problem in Barani. Not only and east, but also in the afternoon and evening.
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Re: Barani: too good to be true...
« Reply #757 on: June 25, 2025, 02:21:09 AM »
In other places in Poland, we have also seen this problem in Barani. Not only and east, but also in the afternoon and evening.

 ](*,) Too vague and it's always very strange that you never talk about the psychrometric effect by sublimation in the comparisons, so failing that, you should explain (to us) how your Polish colleagues analyze the snapshots with obstacles concerned for the shadows on the ground, for example, they filter the data 30 minutes after the pyrano at 2 m is touched in the morning by the sun and 30 minutes before the pyrano is no longer concerned in the evening, in order to be certain that the ground is sunny for all the shelters in the central park (and for a class 4, it's not even worth talking about it)  :-P

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Re: Barani: too good to be true...
« Reply #758 on: June 25, 2025, 05:44:52 AM »
Bianconero you came back here again only under a different nickname. You have already been banned several times after all. As for the problem of low angle it was also raised by other users on this forum and Barani Meteoshield Pro III highlights it at times
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Re: Barani: too good to be true...
« Reply #759 on: June 25, 2025, 06:13:50 AM »
Bianconero you came back here again only under a different nickname. You have already been banned several times after all. As for the problem of low angle it was also raised by other users on this forum and Barani Meteoshield Pro III highlights it at times
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