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Offline Rover1822

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GW1100 Some notes
« on: August 01, 2021, 08:59:23 AM »
1. Read the configuration instructions and don't be stupid like me trying to add it in WSView like the GW1000s (That no worky for me).
2. For me it was easier to configure using a laptop and a browser pointed at to 192.168.4.1  (which is nice) while connected to the units WiFI, as opposed to a cell phone.
3. The web pages served by the device do not scroll on any browser I tried. Have to zoom out if you want to see everything , like all your sensors.
4. After configuration, WSView works just fine with it.


Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2021, 01:22:40 PM »
It work with cumulus mx?
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2021, 01:26:43 PM »
It work with cumulus mx?

I can only make an assumption that it will work the same as the GW1000. I don't use Cumulus MX.

Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2021, 01:30:43 PM »
It work with cumulus mx?

There is no reason for it not to work with Cumulus MX. The GW1100 has the same GW1000 API.
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2021, 09:57:11 AM »
Interestingly Ecowitt offer in their shop the GW1100 as 868 MHz and 915 MHz models only.
https://www.ecowitt.com/shop/goodsDetail/106
Maybe they still have a bunch of 433 MHz GW1000 on stock, the frequency for Asia and Oceania.
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2021, 03:34:27 PM »
1. Read the configuration instructions and don't be stupid like me trying to add it in WSView like the GW1000s (That no worky for me).
2. For me it was easier to configure using a laptop and a browser pointed at to 192.168.4.1  (which is nice) while connected to the units WiFI, as opposed to a cell phone.
3. The web pages served by the device do not scroll on any browser I tried. Have to zoom out if you want to see everything , like all your sensors.
4. After configuration, WSView works just fine with it.
Mine just arrived and I'm quite pleased. Responses to your comments:
1. I used my desktop computer so WSView was not an option
2. I fully agree
3. Between the mouse and down arrow button I was able to scroll down each page. Not perfect, but it works.
4. I won't be using WSView ever for the GW1100. I much prefer the web based display.

I assigned it a static IP in my router and it boots up perfectly.
I will be installing these in my remote sites, I will now be able to remotely access them using a pi and VNC. I'll keep the GW1000 at the remote sites as a backup.

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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2021, 03:41:40 PM »
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3. Between the mouse and down arrow button I was able to scroll down each page. Not perfect, but it works.

You must have a different system than I , I was using Doze. I may also have a lot more sensors attached,  But OK

Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2021, 03:57:37 PM »
I'm using Firefox on Windows 10

I went back and tested. Initially I checked every screen and the roller wheel on my mouse scrolled every screen
But when I returned to the Sensor ID page the roller wheel no longer worked. I had to do a left click and then use the keyboard down arrow.
Rather strange.

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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2021, 04:02:17 PM »
Two additional observations:
1. So far in my testing the GW1100's WiFi hotspot stays on with a GW1100B-WIFIXXXX* beacon. (Or maybe I haven't waited long enough)  I'm going to suggest that in a future revision an option for the WiFi hotspot & beacon to turn off after 10 minutes be included. Actually I'm not even sure how they engineered this, it's currently connected to my home WiFi network and simultaneously has a separate WiFi beacon and hotspot.
2. It appears that the GW1100 has better RF sensitivity. I have a sensor in an underground storm shelter that my GW1000's no longer hear, I thought due to old batteries. The GW1100 hears it just fine. This is not a scientific test, just an initial observation.

*The WiFi ID has the last four characters of the MAC address as the last four characters of the WiFi ID
« Last Edit: August 03, 2021, 04:15:50 PM by WA4OPQ »

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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2021, 04:16:15 PM »
OK, On Doze I tried , IE, Chrome, and Firefox. I may not have been as patient as you. If a screen has more information, that I know is there, scrollbars would be nice :)

I am a coder, but, like any casual user, not going to waste my time. The good news was the configuration screen didn't really need scrolling. It was when I went for the live data , or sensor configurations that I really noticed it.

I agree on the GW1100s retention beacon signal as an AP on my network, that should probably go away when you have configured the unit for your own network, and only pop up again if you need to reconfigure and place the unit into setup up mode using the buttons.

Maybe there is a setting I haven't found for that in my haste to just get it working.

« Last Edit: August 03, 2021, 04:24:46 PM by Rover1822 »
Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2021, 04:49:56 PM »
Based on WA4OPQ discovery

Hmmm ... continuing this on the open AP.

For giggles, I disconnected my laptop from my LAN, and chose the GW1100's hotspot (which is open), and I was able to connect on the original URL of "http://192.168.4.1/"

and getting a decent  connection of
Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::d1fb:df37:2d43:58e7%8
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.4.13
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.4.1

This disturbs me.

Good point out WA4OPQ.

Why does it disturb me, well because there is an open AP from the device, now I haven't gone and changed the AP password, which I will, if I can. But this means your gw1100 is discoverable from its published SSID even when attached to your network . Now, before we all jump through windows,  this is a moderate risk, but I don't know what coupling is behind that AP and the connected LAN. At a minimum, I would like to change the AP pwd for the device.

Appears one can  , make sure to set the pwd on http://192.168.4.1/deviceSetting.html

It seems to put a pwd on the SSID and the website config.

I just did a minimal test, I would really suggest everyone do more.








Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2021, 04:59:50 PM »
I'm going to first say I don't have any evidence that this is intentional.

But , what you really don't need is some neighbor slapping into your GW1100 and mucking up settings.

So please change the PWD

« Last Edit: August 03, 2021, 05:07:31 PM by Rover1822 »
Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2021, 05:13:06 PM »
This is a big difference from the GW1000 series that do not have an open AP after it is configured, with a published SSID.

Probably an overlooked portion in dev for the web interface and the connection after it has been configured.

What I'm curious about, is the potential for a dual radio set up , but maybe someone else here has more information.

Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2021, 05:22:05 PM »
At a minimum , locate that password setting I mentioned earlier and change it. Or some numb nuts like me will reset your configurations and add offsets to all your settings just because , well we can, be hard to explain a temperature in winter that looks like one from hades (hell).
Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2021, 05:26:00 PM »
Hi!

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What I'm curious about, is the potential for a dual radio set up , but maybe someone else here has more information.
STA and AP mode in parallel is possible with the ESP8266: https://siytek.com/esp8266-ap-and-station-mode/ - just with ONE radio interface.
So Ecowitt should just switch off the AP mode after enabling the STA mode.

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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2021, 05:42:11 PM »
Yep... see the issue?
Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2021, 05:54:33 PM »
I always have some issues with IoT devices. This one was a little more , ehh, not needed.

I don't like having an interface that shows the device IP via DHCP, but not allow me to static it. So , when we run into issues we have to show users how to do that from the myriad of different routers there are. Of course yes, for the casual user DHCP fits the bill, well, until it doesn't

I also do not like the absence of being able to choose my own DNS servers, might seem minor, but any DNS server can record your traffic. I have written enough of this stuff to know that we could offer an entry for a DNS server and just ignore it anyway (sad).

Do I track this stuff, sadly, yes

So, basically , the user has to trust you, and your equipment.




« Last Edit: August 03, 2021, 06:16:45 PM by Rover1822 »
Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2021, 03:40:06 PM »
I also do not like the absence of being able to choose my own DNS servers
If you don't like not being able to choose your DNS then you really must not like how the GW1000 phones home to China to Ecowitt and the NTP service.
I'm curious if any changes were made to the GW1100.
But considering the number of GW1000s I have I'll never be using the GW1100 on an isolated solar powered weather station. For that reason I haven't taken the time to see if any changes were made to this.

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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2021, 03:56:36 PM »
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I'm curious if any changes were made to the GW1100.
Unfortunately, I have never received any feedback from Ecowitt on NTP and watchdog/WIFI restart (or other reported problems except the lightning-disappear-problem).
There were also some users in Ecowitt's own forum who saw it similarly - but no statement from Ecowitt yet.
There was nothing about it in the changelogs of the last firmware versions. In this respect one can assume that this problem persists.
Maybe I'll test the GW1100 again in this regard.

Maybe a few more users should show a "thumbs up!" there ...
(25 users already did this)
 
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2021, 04:22:51 PM »
Maybe a few more users should show a "thumbs up!" there ...
(25 users already did this)

I just did....+26 now.  [tup]
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2021, 05:16:51 PM »
Stuck my thumb in there too

I may want to start another one on the GW1100.

But Oliver, you have more of a presence there :)


Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2021, 06:27:43 AM »
Interestingly Ecowitt offer in their shop the GW1100 as 868 MHz and 915 MHz models only.
https://www.ecowitt.com/shop/goodsDetail/106
Maybe they still have a bunch of 433 MHz GW1000 on stock, the frequency for Asia and Oceania.

Noticed that earlier, but on checking again this morning it's changed.

They now offer it in 4 bands.

915, 868, 920 & 433Mhz.

920 is an interesting addition.
Is that not what Davis use in Aus, or is it 915

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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2021, 02:05:20 AM »
I've found a problem in my GW1100 that is serious enough that I have to keep it turned off.

Background: On my desk/bench is a desktop connected by ethernet, and a weatherproof box containing a solar powered weather station. The weather station has a ham radio, a raspberry pi zero W and a GW1000. A GW1100 is on top of my file cabinet. Both GWs and the pi are on the same network with static IP, the router is in another room.

I talk to the pi with SSH using Kitty, a branch of Putty, but all day today the response has been extremely sluggish and often disconnects. It is essentially unusable. I have spent many hours slowly eliminating all possible factors, nothing has improved my connection to the pi. Finally I looked across the room and noticed the GW1100 plugged in. After I unplugged it my connection to the pi was perfect.
I am an extreme novice with Wireshark, would one of you experts please take a look at your GW1100?
Maybe the "always on" AP is on the same channel and blocking the signal? Tomorrow I'll try moving my home network to a different channel. Any other thoughts?

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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2021, 08:06:48 AM »
Is there any chance you have an IP conflict the IP of the GW1100 and the Pi? (or anything else for that matter)

On your desktop, did you use that to configure the GW1100 by connecting to the GW1100 AP. If you did, you make sure that auto connect is not set to connect to the GW1100 AP? It could be your desktop is trying to connect to it still.

What network configuration changes did you make to the GW1100? All of them

I have not seen any unusual traffic from my GW1100
« Last Edit: August 07, 2021, 08:23:06 AM by Rover1822 »
Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
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Re: GW1100 Some notes
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2021, 10:23:23 AM »
I run multiple APs at the house with different SSIDs, if I set equipment to auto connect (sometimes it is the default, like in doze) , and I have it set to auto connect to more than one,  it will switch from one to another based on signal strength. In my case, although not with a GW1100 but the situation could be the same, I get stops in service while the network connection changes.

If you are ethernet tied via cable, if you have WiFi also, your network stack on the unit may not be able to take both connections at one time, depends on device , driver and WiFi/Network device on the equipment.

To remedy, make sure that devices are not set to auto connect to the GW1100s AP.

Unlike the GW1000 , the AP does not shut off and switch to your LAN as discussed in previous portions of this thread. I believe Oliver discussed the STA connection activity being able to share. Similar to what I see on Xbees. So you probably won't experience this condition with the GW1000 which have to be put into a configuration mode with the use of the button.

I really don't know what the configuration mode does on the GW1100 as the AP is always live, it does flash the lights the same as the GW1000, but doesn't need that mode to configure as the AP is always live . And even after configuring via it's AP for your WIFI network LAN, you can get to the configurations pages from the DHCP address of the unit. So the config mode is kind of pointless.  I think this is a firmware hold over from the GW1000
« Last Edit: August 07, 2021, 11:20:29 AM by Rover1822 »
Ambient:
  WS-2000
  PM 2.5(2)
  WH31B(2)
  WH40E
  WH31P
EcoWitt:
  GW1100
  GW1000(4)
  WH31(2)
  WH57
  WH51(12),
  WH40
  WH5360B
  WN34S
  WittBoy WS90 + GW2000
  WS90 (other one) + GW1100
Personal Sites: Weather Cam

 

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