Topic: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test

[giusCB]

Just wanted to follow up, Ecowitt cofirmed this behaviour that with no battereies installed in the Wittboy and running on AC/DC power only, it will always indicate "low battery". Since the unit is operating as designed, its not clear if they are going to issue a "fix" for this, since its not broken.....i guess im OK with this...I mean I could put battereies in it, but don't need to

My Wittboy (and other accessories) is actualy running off my off-grid solar system using a regulated 12VDC, fused  power supply https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=43135.msg439334 and  12V 100 amp h heated Lithium battery, with 500 W solar system. I basically cut the wire at wittboy powerpack the end and connected via fitted terminal connector to the power supply. This is way better then having to have 50 ft wire from my house to my shed in the winters which can last many months.

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According to Ecowitt there is no hardware in the wittboy that can distinguish between AC/DC power or battery power, meaning definitely this would have to be a software or firmware fix.

There has to be something, at least in my thought process, as one would not want the heater activated on just battery power.

That is a good point you raise. Hopefully if enough people bring this to Ecowitt's attention then can resolve it sooner. Its no big deal, except having that low battery indicator warning.

Nice work! We'll see next winter at -40°C... 

[Autofill]

Grazie!

and, I'd be interested to see how much the internal heater affects the temperature reading when its that cold. I suspect the fluctuations will be more pronouced at temperatures below -30oc...but we will find out.

Nice work! We'll see next winter at -40°C... 

[tweatherman]

Strange things happening my end with WSView Plus app. No reception bars or battery status on any of the sensors except piezo rain on GW2000 and every sensor on GW1000....wiered. My GW2000 has way better line of sight than my GW1000 to the WS90.

Thanks,
tweatherman

[tweatherman]

Also noticing on webui the GW2000 is showing .07” less than from HP2550C. Yes calibration is set to default on both devices. The event rainfall on the HP2550C was reset as I did a firmware update after the earlier event. Any ideas why the difference?

Edit: My confusion...There was a edit to the default settings in GW2000 and not the others. I tried to make the calibration the same values in GW1000 but it said input error even after updating to the latest firmware update. Is it possible to do the calibration on the HP2550C for each rain intensities for the piezo rain?

Thanks,
tweatherman

[giusCB]

Also noticing on webui the GW2000 is showing .07” less than from HP2550C. Yes calibration is set to default on both devices. The event rainfall on the HP2550C was reset as I did a firmware update after the earlier event. Any ideas why the difference?

Edit: My confusion...There was a edit to the default settings in GW2000 and not the others. I tried to make the calibration the same values in GW1000 but it said input error even after updating to the latest firmware update. Is it possible to do the calibration on the HP2550C for each rain intensities for the piezo rain?

Thanks,
tweatherman

i think only on gw2000

[Gyvate]

Also noticing on webui the GW2000 is showing .07” less than from HP2550C. Yes calibration is set to default on both devices. The event rainfall on the HP2550C was reset as I did a firmware update after the earlier event. Any ideas why the difference?

Edit: My confusion...There was a edit to the default settings in GW2000 and not the others. I tried to make the calibration the same values in GW1000 but it said input error even after updating to the latest firmware update. Is it possible to do the calibration on the HP2550C for each rain intensities for the piezo rain?

Thanks,
tweatherman

i think only on gw2000

Doesn't make much sense as the HP2564 station is already on the Ecowitt web site and as much as I know so far there is no functional difference between the HP2550 and HP2560 consoles - they share the same device firmware.
But I've asked the same question to Ecowitt - let's see what they'll say.

[Gyvate]

as per Ecowitt the possibility (feature) to configure the rain gain of the WS90 out of the HP2550/2560 console is under development and should come soon with a new firmware upgrade.
And - so far - all gateway consoles (GW1000/WH2650 FW 1.7.0, GW1100 and GW2000 FW 2.1.4) can do the WS90 rain gauge calibration.

[giusCB]

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[Autofill]

Wow! this is best data I've seen to date! Amazing!

I presume this is 1.1.9? I guess now I should update it.

What other settings did you change? any offsets?

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[giusCB]

Wow! this is best data I've seen to date! Amazing!

I presume this is 1.1.9? I guess now I should update it.

What other settings did you change? any offsets?

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absolute zero offsets.
This is the firmware that ecowitt provided to us for testing before the official release.
The improvement was significantly, but this is not exclude some fine tuning in future update https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBrjOhfrJn7va4eUVSwOxgJsf8qn8UHY/view

[tweatherman]

as per Ecowitt the possibility (feature) to configure the rain gain of the WS90 out of the HP2550/2560 console is under development and should come soon with a new firmware upgrade.
And - so far - all gateway consoles (GW1000/WH2650 FW 1.7.0, GW1100 and GW2000 FW 2.1.4) can do the WS90 rain gauge calibration.

Interesting that my GW1000 gives me a input error upon trying to change the calibration for the piezo rain. Running 1.7.0 firmware on it as well.

tweatherman

[Gyvate]

did you select piezo priority on the calibration page (top) ?
do you have the WS90 connected to the GW1000 ?

[Autofill]

Thank you very much. I just updated to 1.1.9

Wow! this is best data I've seen to date! Amazing!

I presume this is 1.1.9? I guess now I should update it.

What other settings did you change? any offsets?

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absolute zero offsets.
This is the firmware that ecowitt provided to us for testing before the official release.
The improvement was significantly, but this is not exclude some fine tuning in future update https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dBrjOhfrJn7va4eUVSwOxgJsf8qn8UHY/view

[tweatherman]

did you select piezo priority on the calibration page (top) ?
do you have the WS90 connected to the GW1000 ?

Yes to both of them.

tweatherman

[Autofill]

Yesterday, had my first rainfail and wanted to provide an update on the Wittboy ver 1.1.9 compared to my WS69 7-1 array.

I must say, its a huge improvment over the traditional rain-bucket WS WS69 that I have. I was watching for when the rain first started, and I wanted to know how sensitive it is at the first signof light rain. The WS90 registerd 0.1mm of rain while my bucket registered nothing (the minimum would be 0.2mm for that anyways). BUT it continued to rain lighlty, and the WS90 then registered 0.3 mm while my bucket one still did not register anything.

To give you an idea of the sensitivity, when the WS90 registered 0.1 mm of rain

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I took a picture of a dirty surface, to show the rain when it just started to show what the WS90 consideres 0.1 mm of rain

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So far, impressed with the rain performance of this unit.

[waiukuweather]

my kick starter Whittboy has arrived
I am impressed
but we have a drought here currently re testing the rain

[giusCB]

it seems that in China they are in lockdown, again ... 
development is temporarily interrupted

[gosling1]

Considering going to this setup (WS90) from a conventional "wired" system. Can anyone tell me the "refresh rate" of the WS90 for the sensors sending data to the station please?
Thanks!

[Bashy]

Considering going to this setup (WS90) from a conventional "wired" system. Can anyone tell me the "refresh rate" of the WS90 for the sensors sending data to the station please?
Thanks!

On Ecowitt it states 8.8 seconds, that's worse than the WS80 at around 4 seconds, that's a big put off for me but not a deal-breaker depending on the rain side of it.

[Gyvate]

the outdoor arrays have different reporting intervals most likely depending on the "slowest" partner in the array.

WS68 (sun, wind) - 16.5 seconds
WN67 (wind, rain, T/H) 16 seconds
WH65/WS69 (sun, wind, rain, T/H) 16 seconds
WS90 (sun, wind, rain, T/H) 8.8 seconds
WS80 (sun, wind, T/H) 4.75 seconds

single outdoor sensors used with the above arrays (e.g. WS68, WS80)
WH40 (rain) 49 seconds
WH32(-EP) (T/H) 64 seconds

[davidefa]

the outdoor arrays have different reporting intervals most likely depending on the "slowest" partner in the array.

WS68 (sun, wind) - 16.5 seconds
WN67 (wind, rain, T/H) 16 seconds
WH65/WS69 (sun, wind, rain, T/H) 16 seconds
WS90 (sun, wind, rain, T/H) 8.8 seconds
WS80 (sun, wind, T/H) 4.75 seconds

single outdoor sensors used with the above arrays (e.g. WS68, WS80)
WH40 (rain) 49 seconds
WH32(-EP) (T/H) 64 seconds

I think this table could be added to the 'must read post' ( for example you could add a column to par.9 table )

[giusCB]

gust sampling for WS90 is 2second when wind speed is over 3m/s , ws80 up to 1 second over 5m/s

[Gyvate]

yes, it should be clear that the data sampling of the sensors and their transmission intervals are two different things.
What the sensors deliver with a transmission is already a sampling result of the time between transmissions.
Not to be confused.

[Arkadiusz_w]

Below you can see the results from WS68 / WS80 / WS90 and Barani Wind for the past 7 days from my location.

[giusCB]

rain event with 20.2mm-h RR
witt 1.6 (stock gain settings)
vp2 1.2
man. 1

rain expected in next coming days, i'll try new gain setting ...