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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #400 on: April 14, 2022, 03:09:42 PM »
I'm already lost in all this and I do not know which anemometer is showing the truth. Barani iot wind is like a professional anemometer. However, logically, it is ultrasound that should better measure sudden, strong gusts of wind.

I wonder if anyone has similar experiences?

Theoretically, more time anenometers may stop when the wind changes suddenly. Ultrasonic anemometers don't suffer from this problem.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #401 on: April 14, 2022, 03:34:06 PM »
Is there a way to reset an individual temp graph. I received a new WN34L thermometer today, setting it up inside obviously gave the wrong high temp, would like to reset it.
on ecowitt cloud ... no, not possible

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #402 on: April 14, 2022, 03:58:52 PM »
I'm already lost in all this and I do not know which anemometer is showing the truth. Barani iot wind is like a professional anemometer. However, logically, it is ultrasound that should better measure sudden, strong gusts of wind.

I wonder if anyone has similar experiences?

Theoretically, more time anenometers may stop when the wind changes suddenly. Ultrasonic anemometers don't suffer from this problem.

you are right, there can certainly be differences in the same location. But not differences of 15-20 or 30 km / h as it happened to me. Certainly the barani is the most reliable of the group.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #403 on: April 16, 2022, 06:59:40 AM »
Preliminary comparison of Barani MeteoWind IoT Pro, WS80 Ecowitt, WS68 Ecowitt from the past 7 days. The tests also include the WS90 obtained from Ecowitt. At the moment I can say that the gusts of wind and average speed are the same as for the WS80. The rainfall from the touch rain gauge is overstated compared to the tray rain gauge. Additional calibration is required and I will do it in days. Soon I will publish more detailed data from the WittBoy which I received as part of the collaboration.

In my opinion, ultrasonic anemometers catch higher gusts of wind. Both Barani MeteoWind and WS68 have lower values. It should be borne in mind that the Barani anemometers are a class above Davis and meet the requirements of WMO, NWS, MEASNET. The WS68 from Ecowitt is a fairly weak anemometer, it has a very low sensitivity to the Barani wind vane. In low wind conditions, Barani Wind shows values ​​similar to ultrasound. Then the WS68 often does not rotate, because it has quite a large inertia and shows 0 km / h, or very low values. As the wind speed increases, the discrepancy between the cup and ultrasonic anemometers increases.

He observes the nearby posts of the Institute of Meteorology and Water Management and the gusts of wind are often analogous or similar to those at PSHM stations, if we take into account the data from WS80 / 90.
I'm now waiting for more extreme weather conditions. Especially stormy ones, because that's when even professional ultrasonic anemometers have a problem with the correct measurement of the wind, when it rains heavily and blows strongly.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #404 on: April 16, 2022, 07:06:26 AM »
Preliminary comparison of Barani MeteoWind IoT Pro, WS80 Ecowitt, WS68 Ecowitt from the past 7 days. The tests also include the WS90 obtained from Ecowitt. At the moment I can say that the gusts of wind and average speed are the same as for the WS80. The rainfall from the touch rain gauge is overstated compared to the tray rain gauge. Additional calibration is required and I will do it in days. Soon I will publish more detailed data from the WittBoy which I received as part of the collaboration.

In my opinion, ultrasonic anemometers catch higher gusts of wind. Both Barani MeteoWind and WS68 have lower values. It should be borne in mind that the Barani anemometers are a class above Davis and meet the requirements of WMO, NWS, MEASNET. The WS68 from Ecowitt is a fairly weak anemometer, it has a very low sensitivity to the Barani wind vane. In low wind conditions, Barani Wind shows values ​​similar to ultrasound. Then the WS68 often does not rotate, because it has quite a large inertia and shows 0 km / h, or very low values. As the wind speed increases, the discrepancy between the cup and ultrasonic anemometers increases.

He observes the nearby posts of the Institute of Meteorology and Water Management and the gusts of wind are often analogous or similar to those at PSHM stations, if we take into account the data from WS80 / 90.
I'm now waiting for more extreme weather conditions. Especially stormy ones, because that's when even professional ultrasonic anemometers have a problem with the correct measurement of the wind, when it rains heavily and blows strongly.
Is your ws80 upgraded to the latest fw. ?
In the latest firmware version they changed the gust reading mode also on the ws80 and I think there is now an error also on the ws80  ](*,) (with the previous versions everything was ok)

Comparisons must be made on the same location, do not consider the data of nearby stations, there can be huge differences.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #405 on: April 16, 2022, 07:25:58 AM »
The software has not been updated since the news. I received the WS80 device in February, WS90 a few days ago and it tests side by side in parallel.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #406 on: April 16, 2022, 07:54:10 AM »
The software has not been updated since the news. I received the WS80 device in February, WS90 a few days ago and it tests side by side in parallel.
15-20 km h of difference is too much in same location
is your data online ?
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #407 on: April 16, 2022, 08:04:45 AM »
This is how I send data to the internet. Only with WS68, WS80, WS90. I can't do this with Aries data to be displayed on WU. The instruction on the Barani website is incomprehensible.

https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/ILUBLI40
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https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/ILUBLI35
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #408 on: April 16, 2022, 08:10:13 AM »
This is how I send data to the internet. Only with WS68, WS80, WS90. I can't do this with Aries data to be displayed on WU. The instruction on the Barani website is incomprehensible.

https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/ILUBLI40
https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/ILUBLI38
https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/ILUBLI35
ILUBLI38 is ws80 and ILUBLI35 is ws90 ?
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« Last Edit: April 16, 2022, 08:17:14 AM by Arkadiusz_w »
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #410 on: April 16, 2022, 11:59:21 AM »
ILUBLI35, WS80, ILUBLI38, WS68, ILUBLI40, WS90.

WS90 https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index?id=81791
WS80 https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index?id=76642
WS68 https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index?id=77123

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https://weather.allmeteo.com/#/ws/2201LW038
Thanks so much, I forward your links to ecowitt, I'm waiting their response.
There is a massive difference also in your datas. I really don't understand what happened with newer firmware  #-o
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #411 on: April 16, 2022, 02:44:00 PM »
ILUBLI35, WS80, ILUBLI38, WS68, ILUBLI40, WS90.

WS90 https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index?id=81791
WS80 https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index?id=76642
WS68 https://www.ecowitt.net/home/index?id=77123

Barani

https://weather.allmeteo.com/#/ws/2201LW038
Thanks so much, I forward your links to ecowitt, I'm waiting their response.
There is a massive difference also in your datas. I really don't understand what happened with newer firmware  #-o
Is he running the latest firmware on the WS90?

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #412 on: April 16, 2022, 02:47:49 PM »
I got a sales piece from Ecowitt. The only thing I noticed was that the irradiance and uv are overestimated because of this, and the rainfall from the touch rain gauge. Barani Wind, in my opinion, will always lower the gusts of wind, because it has inertia. However, it is much better than the WS68. Today, the difference in maximum gusts reached 15 km / h in relation to cup and ultrasonic wind gauges. The wind was similar in the region. Mostly gusts at IMGW stations ranged from 38 km / h to 53 km / h.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #413 on: April 16, 2022, 05:52:25 PM »
In fact, various keys - including the key ws90_ver which indicates the version number of the WS90 firmware - are sent to ecowitt.net, but since firmware v2.1.1 no longer via custom server.
This is a pity - so unfortunately the version number check for the WS90 via EAR no longer works.

My enquiry to Ecowitt as to whether this is an oversight or whether these keys are deliberately sent exclusively to ecowitt.net is still unanswered.
I'll get back to you when I know more.

I still don't have an answer from Ecowitt but in the current firmware version v2.1.4 for GW1100 and GW2000 the key ws90_ver is sent via custom server again.
This means that you can now use EAR again to check which firmware version your WS90 has and whether an update is available.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #414 on: April 16, 2022, 11:43:53 PM »
In fact, various keys - including the key ws90_ver which indicates the version number of the WS90 firmware - are sent to ecowitt.net, but since firmware v2.1.1 no longer via custom server.
This is a pity - so unfortunately the version number check for the WS90 via EAR no longer works.

My enquiry to Ecowitt as to whether this is an oversight or whether these keys are deliberately sent exclusively to ecowitt.net is still unanswered.
I'll get back to you when I know more.




I still don't have an answer from Ecowitt but in the current firmware version v2.1.4 for GW1100 and GW2000 the key ws90_ver is sent via custom server again.
This means that you can now use EAR again to check which firmware version your WS90 has and whether an update is available.

Regards, Oliver
I got the ear to work on my end. Running v109 on WS90. v117 currently available for it. How many versions behind is my current version Olicat?

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #415 on: April 17, 2022, 02:50:17 AM »
Hi!

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How many versions behind is my current version Olicat?
I don't know exactly.
Since Ecowitt does not currently offer an overview of the different firmware versions, I have to search for and compile the available versions in all publicly accessible areas.
But I think that v1.17 came directly after v1.09 - at least that is my personal update history.
However, v1.17 has not yet been publicly advertised by Ecowitt - the reference to this update came from this forum.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #416 on: April 17, 2022, 03:24:19 AM »
Hi!

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How many versions behind is my current version Olicat?
I don't know exactly.
Since Ecowitt does not currently offer an overview of the different firmware versions, I have to search for and compile the available versions in all publicly accessible areas.
But I think that v1.17 came directly after v1.09 - at least that is my personal update history.
However, v1.17 has not yet been publicly advertised by Ecowitt - the reference to this update came from this forum.

Happy Easter!
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Is there a way to open and read the dfu file?
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #417 on: April 17, 2022, 04:31:13 AM »
You can convert dfu file to s19/hex/bin ( see: DfuSe v3.0.6\Bin\Doc\UM0412.pdf pag. 20 )

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #418 on: April 17, 2022, 04:39:32 AM »
Hi!

Interesting.
Perhaps one could flash without Windows with a Android smartphone instead?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yatrim.stmdfuusb

In any case, I would find it more comfortable to climb onto the roof with a tablet or smartphone instead of a notebook.

Who dares to try?

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #419 on: April 17, 2022, 04:47:19 AM »
Who has the courage to try?  :lol:
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #420 on: April 17, 2022, 10:16:59 AM »
Hi!

Interesting.
Perhaps one could flash without Windows with a Android smartphone instead?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yatrim.stmdfuusb

In any case, I would find it more comfortable to climb onto the roof with a tablet or smartphone instead of a notebook.


Is this how you can update the WS80 / WS90 software without a laptop by downloading the drivers from the Ecowitt website?

I noticed one more disturbing thing. WS90 unnaturally increases the UV index. Irradiance, despite the set offset, does not react properly.

Who dares to try?

Oliver
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #421 on: April 17, 2022, 10:58:57 AM »
Seems like quite a pain to do a firmware update with a pc anyway regardless even if your WS90 was on a tripod at ground level.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #422 on: April 17, 2022, 11:08:00 AM »
Seems like quite a pain to do a firmware update with a pc anyway regardless even if your WS90 was on a tripod at ground level.

I don't agree. If you follow the instructions properly, it is 5 minutes of work  [tup]
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #423 on: April 18, 2022, 12:02:51 AM »
Just installed my wittboy and it's running on my off-grid solar panel system (no AA batteries installed in the wittboy).

Current outdoor temperature is around +2oC, and you can everytime the wittboy heater turns on, it draws about 0.8 amps form my battery (those rectangular dips about every 30 minutes).

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #424 on: April 18, 2022, 10:50:36 AM »
and here's the entire night (Witboy's first cold night), you can see clearly when the heater turns on and off (x axis is current in Amps). The sunlight complelely disappears at aroun 9 pm so then my loads run on full battery power (hence the gradual drop at around that time).

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