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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #325 on: April 07, 2022, 07:34:56 AM »
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I see only the fw. of gw2000
Ok, then Ecowitt has changed the behaviour with v2.1.3.
The keys are still included in the current version. It is possible that one have to activate the sending of these additional keys first - for example via a debug switch.
Or these keys are only sent to ecowitt.net and no longer via custom server.
I'll ask Ecowitt about it.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #326 on: April 07, 2022, 08:07:09 AM »
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they were already gone with V.2.1.2 for the custom server - in 2.1.1 they were still there
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your WS90 may be beta but not your GW2000 ...
nevertheless the GW2000 earlier (FW 2.1.1) reported the data @olicat was talking about
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #327 on: April 07, 2022, 09:42:15 AM »
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your WS90 may be beta but not your GW2000 ...
nevertheless the GW2000 earlier (FW 2.1.1) reported the data @olicat was talking about

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #328 on: April 07, 2022, 03:14:36 PM »
"in ethernet network settings" when i switch from dhcp to static the subnet mask and the default gateway is inverted (255.255.255.0 on gateway and 192.168.X.X on subnet). Obviously when i apply the setting the connection died.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #329 on: April 07, 2022, 03:19:12 PM »
yes, same here - and when you do it a second time, the proper values end up again in their respective fields. :evil: :roll:
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #330 on: April 08, 2022, 11:22:11 AM »
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can anyone explain in which way the ws90 sampling the gust ? I've constantly higher values than a VP2 (7 months old anemometer)

The real time values are nearly the same.   :?: :?:

(the anemometers are side by side, about 15 cm of difference in height)
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #331 on: April 08, 2022, 12:56:54 PM »
I assume ( without any evidence ) it is like the ws80: 'the max wind speed in the last 28s'

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #332 on: April 08, 2022, 01:15:14 PM »
I assume ( without any evidence ) it is like the ws80: 'the max wind speed in the last 28s'

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Grazie Davide.
I knew this document. Today the gusts were all above 18kmh (5ms) so if the sampling was 1 second the difference could be justified (davis samples every 2.5. The ws90 would collect double the values). can Fineoffset confirm this for the ws90?  :oops:
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #333 on: April 08, 2022, 01:17:21 PM »
In my head, and I may be me missing something, the period for determining the max wind gust shouldn't account for the consistent higher values. The gust should be a near immediate reading , whether it occurs in 28s, or whether it occurs in a shorter or longer reporting period.

However, the rest of the document is interesting and the greater than less than on a 4s window or 2s , would need to be  reviewed, I think in comparison. Rather confusing, or it's just Friday and my brain is relax mode.


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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #334 on: April 08, 2022, 01:27:09 PM »
This has come up before, gust speed should not be an instantaneous reading, but the average over 3 seconds.

The Davis averages over 2.5 seconds (pretty close), the WS80/WS90 does not specify how they determine the gust but I suspect it is ether the highest instantaneous, or the average of a unknown number of readings over 1 second - then the highest of these for 1, 2, or 4 seconds according to the spec sheet.

But the lack of inertial response of the ultra-sonic vs. wind cups means they should produce slightly higher speeds. My suspected lack of 3 second averaging means the WS80/90 the gust speeds may be over stated though. (I know others may disagree :) )
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #335 on: April 08, 2022, 01:41:17 PM »
But the lack of inertial response of the ultra-sonic vs. wind cups means they should produce slightly higher speeds. My suspected lack of 3 second averaging means the WS80/90 the gust speeds may be over stated though. (I know others may disagree :) )

I agree with that , although they spin up fast, cups have to spin up. In theory, could miss short duration higher gust. Also depends on the sampling window in the sensor, or how often it samples. Both combined may account for it.

Might be a case where the ultrasonic is more accurate, or as you say, overinflated. Would take more expensive gear to find out

But even then, the cup sensor should get "lucky" once in a while, not seeing that in the data provided


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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #336 on: April 08, 2022, 02:03:24 PM »
But the lack of inertial response of the ultra-sonic vs. wind cups means they should produce slightly higher speeds. My suspected lack of 3 second averaging means the WS80/90 the gust speeds may be over stated though. (I know others may disagree :) )

I agree with that , although they spin up fast, cups have to spin up. In theory, could miss short duration higher gust. Also depends on the sampling window in the sensor, or how often it samples. Both combined may account for it.

Might be a case where the ultrasonic is more accurate, or as you say, overinflated. Would take more expensive gear to find out

But even then, the cup sensor should get "lucky" once in a while, not seeing that in the data provided
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #337 on: April 08, 2022, 02:56:08 PM »
I agree with that , although they spin up fast, cups have to spin up. In theory, could miss short duration higher gust. Also depends on the sampling window in the sensor, or how often it samples. Both combined may account for it.

Might be a case where the ultrasonic is more accurate, or as you say, overinflated. Would take more expensive gear to find out

But even then, the cup sensor should get "lucky" once in a while, not seeing that in the data provided
The cups are providing an analogue average over the period as its just a rotation count.
The ultrasonic you are right, it is discrete samples, and we do not know the sampling rate - but with a small solar powered device I guess they are going to be reasonably spaced out. Out of interest, maybe I'll take my WS80 down and see if I can figure it out either from detecting the sonic pulses, or power consumption. I'm afraid I do not have a 'scope to plumb in to the electronics.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #338 on: April 08, 2022, 03:10:28 PM »
I agree with that , although they spin up fast, cups have to spin up. In theory, could miss short duration higher gust. Also depends on the sampling window in the sensor, or how often it samples. Both combined may account for it.

Might be a case where the ultrasonic is more accurate, or as you say, overinflated. Would take more expensive gear to find out

But even then, the cup sensor should get "lucky" once in a while, not seeing that in the data provided
The cups are providing an analogue average over the period as its just a rotation count.
The ultrasonic you are right, it is discrete samples, and we do not know the sampling rate - but but a small solar powered device I guess they are going to be reasonably spaced out. Out of interest, maybe I'll take my WS80 down and see if I can figure it out either from detecting the sonic pulses, or power consumption. I'm afraid I do not have a 'scope to plumb in to the electronics.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #339 on: April 08, 2022, 04:54:44 PM »
I already recorded the ws80 ultrasonic pulses:
- frequency: 40KHz
- pulse trains width: 96mS
- pulses rate: continuous, 1S, 2S, 4S

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #340 on: April 08, 2022, 07:58:11 PM »
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Maybe I need to mention that in the last two days we had very different rainfall and wind conditions - from no wind to 77 km/h and drizzle to strong rainfall, both accompanied by changing wind conditions.
The graphs of the two stations (HP2551 and GW2001) at ecowitt.net will make that clearer.
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Anyone experiencing more rain on WS90 piezo gauge vs manual rain gauges and or any Davis tipping bucket type? Factory calibration on all rainfall rates on my end. This is totally opposite than what I was expecting with what others are saying.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #341 on: April 08, 2022, 08:24:31 PM »
Your weekly and monthly amounts are just about identical.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #342 on: April 08, 2022, 08:47:24 PM »
Your weekly and monthly amounts are just about identical.
Davis tipping bucket on one event was 0.09 and piezo had 0.07. The time after that on next event tipping bucking 0.83 which matched 8” manual and piezo had 1.15.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #343 on: April 09, 2022, 02:48:43 AM »
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #344 on: April 09, 2022, 03:24:23 AM »
new fw. upgrade https://foue.omnicamp1.com/link/624e3f9dd342a10020629a28/624e3f831761c6001e15ff02/60fe8857b211cd7ebb5ab8f2?signature=cc59e01b718a79b294b6eb140c6806da238a53bc37431e1702d7b4c1fede9d56

Anyone installed this firmware already? And what are the experiences? I'm a bit wary because it doesn't seem to be officially released  :???:
The update is mostly for beta units like yours.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #345 on: April 09, 2022, 03:25:26 AM »
Why ecowitt don't talk with beta testers?  :-|
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #346 on: April 09, 2022, 03:32:41 AM »
The update is mostly for beta units like yours.

I would expect this to be posted in the Facebook group of the beta testers by Ecowitt to get some results of the modifications. But they didn't though  :roll:
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #347 on: April 09, 2022, 03:37:16 AM »
strangely the picture with the Reset and cal buttons is different from our units ....
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #348 on: April 09, 2022, 03:38:22 AM »
new fw. upgrade https://foue.omnicamp1.com/link/624e3f9dd342a10020629a28/624e3f831761c6001e15ff02/60fe8857b211cd7ebb5ab8f2?signature=cc59e01b718a79b294b6eb140c6806da238a53bc37431e1702d7b4c1fede9d56

Anyone installed this firmware already? And what are the experiences? I'm a bit wary because it doesn't seem to be officially released  :???:
The update is mostly for beta units like yours.
says who ? And what is it supposed to do ?
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #349 on: April 09, 2022, 08:06:43 AM »
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