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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2022, 03:54:33 AM »
the latest console firmware update 1.7.7 for the HP2551 console allows for using the WS90 as outdoor array.
The WS90 appears under Sensors ID in the setup.
I assume that the HP350x consoles will also get a respective firmware update.

The GW1100 and the GW2000 can receive a WS90 and I guess the GW1000/WH2650 consoles will receive a respective firmware update soon.

If this will be possible for the WS2320E and WH2910 consoles, I doubt,  as they don't have a port for device firmware updates.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2022, 08:42:49 AM »
New photo... A new structure can be seen near the transducers  [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]  [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2022, 01:12:06 PM »
the latest console firmware update 1.7.7 for the HP2551 console allows for using the WS90 as outdoor array.
The WS90 appears under Sensors ID in the setup.
I assume that the HP350x consoles will also get a respective firmware update.

The GW1100 and the GW2000 can receive a WS90 and I guess the GW1000/WH2650 consoles will receive a respective firmware update soon.

If this will be possible for the WS2320E and WH2910 consoles, I doubt,  as they don't have a port for device firmware updates.
Will either one of these consoles work?
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2022, 01:20:46 PM »
Yes they will. I'm one of the beta testers and also have an HP2550 (the HP2550 is the display itself, 2551/2552, etc is the display combined with other sensors). See https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.msg431939#msg431939 for the different package info.

We still need to see it in action, so maybe a good idea to wait for these results, before ordering. Just a tip  [tup]

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2022, 01:22:11 PM »
They are both the same console - only one comes with an extra indoor temperature/humidity/air pressure sensor (which you don't need, if you have already such a console and only want to have a second device; if it's your only console, you will need the T/H/P sensor (WH32B)).
And both will work with a WS90 once upgraded with WiFi firmware 1.6.1 and device firmware 1.7.7.
I doubt Ecowitt would have published the new firmware with the capacity of also receiving and processing data from a WS90 without having tested it.
They have the WS90 since long.
The beta test serves different purposes than verifying if the WS90 can be received by a HP2550 console.
When you see some of the WS90 testing videos for the haptic rain sensor, you can see that a HP2550 console is used to receive and process their test data.
e.g. https://youtu.be/LU5gXVOtfVw
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #55 on: January 01, 2022, 02:19:38 PM »
So essentially there are selling the extra temp. and humidity sensor for $10.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2022, 03:17:06 PM »
So essentially there are selling the extra temp. and humidity sensor for $10.

Thanks,
tweatherman
Beware. The WH32B is the indoor temperature, humidity and air pressure sensor, The console doesn't have these sensors inbuilt, hence an additional sensor (3-in-1) is needed.
And by convention, the nomenclature is such that Extra Temperature and Humidity sensors are the members of the WH31 family.
They can be placed anywhere: indoor, outdoor ... - whereas the WH32B is the official indoor T/H/P sensor.
Might be helpful to read the https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0 (again ?)
And yes, the WH32B comes for around 10 USD, the WH31s for 12 USD etc.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #57 on: January 02, 2022, 05:54:44 PM »
So my WH31B doesnt have a pressure sensor. I do have the GW1000 which I believe has the the 3 in1 built into it. If I want to run multiple sensors via indoors what sensor Im I looking for to display multiple sensors on the 2550 display? Sorry for all the questions.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #58 on: January 02, 2022, 06:38:06 PM »
WH31B is not a known (to me) Ambient model or Ecowitt model. Except that the B stands for the Radio Frequency band.
But from the WH31 family (WH31 + WN30) 1-8 can be shown by the HP2550/2551 console and by by the GW1x00.
On the HP2551 console it/they would be shown together (cycling if activated) with the indoor T/H and the WH45 indoor T/H - maximum 10 extra T/H sensors - the right hand side two smaller color coded circles. See https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.msg420959#msg420959
The GW1x00 console has indoor T/H/P sensors inbuilt, the HP2551 console not (hence the need for a WH32B).
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #59 on: January 02, 2022, 06:56:20 PM »
Thanks for the reply. Will order the 2551C then that includes the WH32 sensor. The WH45 sensor is expensive and do not wish to run this sensor.

tweatherman
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2022, 03:13:08 AM »
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #61 on: January 08, 2022, 04:40:58 AM »
WS90 beta tester shipping schedule:
shipment announced today with tracking iD
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2022, 09:30:49 AM »
WS90 beta tester shipping schedule:
shipment announced today with tracking iD

Yes, confirmed  [tup]

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #63 on: January 11, 2022, 06:01:31 AM »
From Ecowitt-Facebook

Wittboy (WS90) drizzle rain field test data:
There are four devices installed across different areas in the city of Shenzhen, and last night there is drizzling rain, and we recorded the four devices for comparing:

Reference WS90
#1 1.5mm 1.5mm
#2 2.9mm 2.2mm
#3 1.9mm 0.9mm
#4 2.0mm 0.9mm

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #64 on: January 11, 2022, 06:40:13 AM »
From Ecowitt-Facebook

Wittboy (WS90) drizzle rain field test data:
There are four devices installed across different areas in the city of Shenzhen, and last night there is drizzling rain, and we recorded the four devices for comparing:

Reference WS90
#1 1.5mm 1.5mm
#2 2.9mm 2.2mm
#3 1.9mm 0.9mm
#4 2.0mm 0.9mm
I've seen that post also in the Italian forum.
What I don't fully understand are the two columns - are they both separate readings of the 4 WS90 at different times  ?
or is the 2nd column a comparision reading ? If so, which device was used for comparison ? A WH40 ?
And which column stands for which device ?
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #65 on: January 11, 2022, 06:45:40 AM »
From Ecowitt-Facebook

Wittboy (WS90) drizzle rain field test data:
There are four devices installed across different areas in the city of Shenzhen, and last night there is drizzling rain, and we recorded the four devices for comparing:

Reference WS90
#1 1.5mm 1.5mm
#2 2.9mm 2.2mm
#3 1.9mm 0.9mm
#4 2.0mm 0.9mm
I've seen that post also in the Italian forum.
What I don't fully understand are the two columns - are they both separate readings of the 4 WS90 at different times  ?
or is the 2nd column a comparision reading ? If so, which device was used for comparison ? A WH40 ?
And which column stands for which device ?
assuming
#location  col 1 is ref device and col2 WS90 it seems there is an under reading in drizzle except in location 1 of around 50%

I wonder what's different about location 1?

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #66 on: January 11, 2022, 10:20:43 AM »
Be nice to know what the reference device is.
A manual gauge or a ecowitt WH40/68 tipping bucket sensor.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2022, 12:26:50 PM »
Let's wait for the device to be received by the beta testers, so we can make our own comparison  \:D/

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2022, 12:37:12 PM »
I do agree, but someone put data out there without a decent explanation, well not at least for me.

I mean if this came from the developers, Kudos for being honest if it shows negative slanting results on accuracy.

I am curious. Granted, we are talking fractions of a mm, but still interested.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #69 on: January 11, 2022, 04:28:35 PM »
WS90, or Wittboy, will have a very powerful offset calibration section, completely at user's control, at different rain rate levels to assure the better accuracy performances
the data posted are not useful, I don't know what reference system was used, and, on a metrological view, are absolutely not useful

In the next few days, the beta testers start to receive their ws90, this will be the perfect step to understand if we are on the right way or not, what we need to improve, to change, etc

Until this moment, every supposition has a very low reliability

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #70 on: January 12, 2022, 04:36:18 AM »
Be nice to know what the reference device is.
A manual gauge or a ecowitt WH40/68 tipping bucket sensor.

The reference is wh40.   #1 ~ #4 are four devices installed, and as location is different, thus rainfall amount is not same. but for the same rain event.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #71 on: January 12, 2022, 10:12:30 AM »
Be nice to know what the reference device is.
A manual gauge or a ecowitt WH40/68 tipping bucket sensor.

The reference is wh40.   #1 ~ #4 are four devices installed, and as location is different, thus rainfall amount is not same. but for the same rain event.
thanks henry  [tup]

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #72 on: January 12, 2022, 10:44:41 PM »
My Wittboy should arrive early next week :)
Looking forward to it, Im a beta tester from New Zealand.

Ill be sure to share my thoughts and findings.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2022, 04:27:58 AM »
Likewise there will be quite a few of the seasoned folks on this forum in different parts of the world (aka different weather scenarios) testing the WS90.
Please be aware part of this testing will involve fine tuning the calibration etc
This is very much not a finished product yet so please don't jump to any conclusions from early comments posted about observations.
Its all about product development to make it the best it can be.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter
« Reply #74 on: January 13, 2022, 04:48:57 AM »
Likewise there will be quite a few of the seasoned folks on this forum in different parts of the world (aka different weather scenarios) testing the WS90.
Please be aware part of this testing will involve fine tuning the calibration etc
This is very much not a finished product yet so please don't jump to any conclusions from early comments posted about observations.
Its all about product development to make it the best it can be.
Isn't the weather station factory calibrated?

 

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