Author Topic: The new NWS radar site was implemented today  (Read 3341 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Mabcmb

  • My WU page
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 319
The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« on: December 17, 2020, 02:56:59 PM »
Don't know if this is the place for this but I'm sure it will be moved if it's not . From the NWS " PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT! The new NWS radar site was implemented today, just in time for the "rain". Our 1990s radar pages are finally gone! Goodbye Flash, hellooooo GIS.. For more information and tips on how to use all the fancy new features, visit "   https://www.weather.gov/radarfaq

 Link direct to the new radar site is here : https://radar.weather.gov/#/

  Have a great day , Michael .

Offline CNYWeather

  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 2250
    • CNYWeather
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2020, 03:27:37 PM »
 :sad:

They sure make it easy huh?
Tony




Offline saratogaWX

  • Administrator
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 8585
  • Saratoga, CA, USA Weather - free PHP scripts
    • Saratoga-Weather.org
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2020, 03:50:13 PM »
And, the new site has now broken two scripts that depend on images no longer produced:

Base-USA template scripts: 

USA-regional-maps.php Version 1.00 - 10-Jun-2020 now has no image for NWS regional radar composite

wxnwsradar.php (and support scripts, based on gwillkin's wxradar-hanis3.php script set) now has no images to display.

I'm working on fixes for both...
Ken True/Saratoga, CA, USA main site: saratoga-weather.org
Davis VP1+ FARS, Boltek-PCI/NexStorm, microSferics ToA, Blitzortung RED, GRLevel3, WD, WL, VWS, Cumulus, Meteobridge/hub
Free weather PHP scripts/website templates - update notifications on Twitter saratogaWXPHP

Offline gwwilk

  • Southeast Lincoln Weather
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 2513
    • SouthEast Lincoln, NE Weather
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2020, 04:46:17 PM »
Thanks, Ken!  Meanwhile I've modified my web site to eliminate those images that are no longer available and scripts that are dead.  I could have used this animation, but the display isn't at all up to what we had before.  A truly sad state of affairs!

Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to your updates!
« Last Edit: December 17, 2020, 04:48:11 PM by gwwilk »
Regards, Jerry Wilkins
gwwilk@gmail.com

Offline dockline

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2020, 04:48:55 PM »
NOAA's new weather looks terrible.   It is significantly lower resolution than what they have provided.

Why?

Offline gwwilk

  • Southeast Lincoln Weather
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 2513
    • SouthEast Lincoln, NE Weather
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2020, 04:51:41 PM »
NOAA's new weather looks terrible.   It is significantly lower resolution than what they have provided.

Why?
Hey, it's a government 'service' in the truest sense of the word...
Regards, Jerry Wilkins
gwwilk@gmail.com

Offline dockline

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2020, 05:02:57 PM »

wxnwsradar.php (and support scripts, based on gwillkin's wxradar-hanis3.php script set) now has no images to display.

I'm working on fixes for both...

FYI, there are radar images now at https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/lite/

The regional radars are gone.   The national radar used to be big & beautiful - it is now a tiny 600 pixel image.

Offline saratogaWX

  • Administrator
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 8585
  • Saratoga, CA, USA Weather - free PHP scripts
    • Saratoga-Weather.org
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2020, 05:11:42 PM »
I've done an update to USA-regional-maps-inc.php V1.01 - 17-Dec-2020 to use the available images at https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/lite/

Sadly, only Alaska and Hawaii regional images are now being produced (along with individual NEXRAD sites 10 images and loop), so the script now defaults to using your local radar (specified in $SITE['GR3radar']) for the 'regional' image selected.  Best I could do with what little they now offer.

Update from the update tool using query Base-USA, Plugin-*, 17-Dec-2020

It looks MUCH more bleak for the wxnwsradar.php set of scripts .. while there are images available, all the overlays are now not available, so I'd recommend you comment out a link to wxnwsradar.php (which stopped working 17-Dec-2020) in your flyout-menu.xml for now.  Maybe Jerry and I can resurrect that script (or replace it with some others using map software instead).
Sigh...
« Last Edit: December 17, 2020, 05:29:51 PM by saratogaWX »
Ken True/Saratoga, CA, USA main site: saratoga-weather.org
Davis VP1+ FARS, Boltek-PCI/NexStorm, microSferics ToA, Blitzortung RED, GRLevel3, WD, WL, VWS, Cumulus, Meteobridge/hub
Free weather PHP scripts/website templates - update notifications on Twitter saratogaWXPHP

Offline CW2274

  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 6194
    • Conditions @ CW2274 West Tucson-Painted Hills Ranch
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2020, 05:12:31 PM »
I haven't used NWS products in years and looks like that won't change. I much prefer getting everything here.

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=continental-conus-comp_radar-48-1-50-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined

Offline saratogaWX

  • Administrator
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 8585
  • Saratoga, CA, USA Weather - free PHP scripts
    • Saratoga-Weather.org
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2020, 05:17:54 PM »
The Terms of Use https://weather.cod.edu/terms/ for their site allow limited sharing, but warn against overusage, so I think it's likely not appropriate to use them as a source for a generally-available personal website script set.  Thanks, though, for the link.
Ken True/Saratoga, CA, USA main site: saratoga-weather.org
Davis VP1+ FARS, Boltek-PCI/NexStorm, microSferics ToA, Blitzortung RED, GRLevel3, WD, WL, VWS, Cumulus, Meteobridge/hub
Free weather PHP scripts/website templates - update notifications on Twitter saratogaWXPHP

Offline CW2274

  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 6194
    • Conditions @ CW2274 West Tucson-Painted Hills Ranch
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2020, 05:36:14 PM »
Thanks, but I was merely speaking on a personal choice. Much more stuff to play with on COD as well.

Offline ocala

  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 4153
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2020, 06:15:50 PM »
NOAA's new weather looks terrible.   It is significantly lower resolution than what they have provided.

Why?
No it's not lower resolution. It's L2 data. The best there is. Compare it with L3 data and you'll see the difference.
The reason it looks so bad is the choice of colors they used. If they kept the original color scheme it would be getting better reviews. Something tells me they will eventually change the color table to something more appealing.
The blues had a baby and they named it Rock & Roll

Offline dockline

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 8
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2020, 06:28:49 PM »
It may have the best quality source data, but the end result is a product that looks terrible.    The product human eyes saw yesterday was much higher resolution.

All this shows is big blotchy patches of brown.

Offline ocala

  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 4153
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2020, 06:45:35 PM »
Disregard above images. Trying to insert images on a phone is a PIA.
The blues had a baby and they named it Rock & Roll

Offline ValentineWeather

  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 6223
    • LiVE WEATHER
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2020, 07:08:40 AM »
Thanks, Ken!  Meanwhile I've modified my web site to eliminate those images that are no longer available and scripts that are dead.  I could have used this animation, but the display isn't at all up to what we had before.  A truly sad state of affairs!

Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to your updates!

My backup radar GIF is WU's Radblast on my front index page.

https://radblast.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/radar/WUNIDS_map?station=OAX&brand=wui&num=18&delay=15&type=N0R&frame=0&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&showstorms=0&showlabels=1&severe=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&smooth=0

Adjust locations just change the OAX to your local radar site.
Randy

Offline gwwilk

  • Southeast Lincoln Weather
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 2513
    • SouthEast Lincoln, NE Weather
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2020, 07:10:50 AM »
Thanks, Randy!  [tup] I'll work on that today, along with ideas others have presented.
Regards, Jerry Wilkins
gwwilk@gmail.com

Offline gwwilk

  • Southeast Lincoln Weather
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 2513
    • SouthEast Lincoln, NE Weather
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2020, 07:28:51 AM »
Indeed, that works well, Randy.  Just had to replace the '&'s with '&'s to get it to validate.  It's far better than the webcam image I was using that goes dark at night like my avatar does.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2020, 07:30:44 AM by gwwilk »
Regards, Jerry Wilkins
gwwilk@gmail.com

Offline ValentineWeather

  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 6223
    • LiVE WEATHER
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2020, 07:54:14 AM »
 [tup] Good deal Jerry.
Randy

Offline miraculon

  • Sunrise Side Weather
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 3882
  • KE8DAF
    • Sunrise Side Weather in Rogers City MI USA
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2020, 09:13:19 AM »
Thanks for the update, more fun with NWS...

The never ending game of Whac-A-Mole...

Greg H.


Blitzortung Stations #706 and #1682
CoCoRaHS: MI-PI-1
CWOP: CW4114 and KE8DAF-13
WU: KMIROGER7
Amateur Radio Callsign: KE8DAF

Offline monymony

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12
    • Cecil County Maryland Weather
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2020, 09:19:19 AM »
Quote
FYI, there are radar images now at https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/lite/

The regional radars are gone.   The national radar used to be big & beautiful - it is now a tiny 600 pixel image.

Had this thought too but looks like NWS is not updating these links when I looked this morning.  Everything is still from the 17th.  Fun times!


Davis VP2 using WeatherCat v3.11
WU: KMDELKTO10 -  CWOP: EW3643 - CoCoRaHS: MD-CC-16

Offline gwwilk

  • Southeast Lincoln Weather
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 2513
    • SouthEast Lincoln, NE Weather
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2020, 09:19:49 AM »
Thanks for the update, more fun with NWS...

The never ending game of Whac-A-Mole...

Greg H.
Here's Randy's (ValentineWeather) WU Radar for your location: https://radblast.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/radar/WUNIDS_map?station=APX&brand=wui&num=18&delay=15&type=N0R&frame=0&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&showstorms=0&showlabels=1&severe=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&smooth=0

I like this better than the craptastic current NOAA/NWS offerings.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2020, 09:22:08 AM by gwwilk »
Regards, Jerry Wilkins
gwwilk@gmail.com

Offline gwwilk

  • Southeast Lincoln Weather
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 2513
    • SouthEast Lincoln, NE Weather
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2020, 09:36:35 AM »
I suspect that the NOAA/NWS's goal in all of this machination is to reduce the load on their servers.  Nevertheless, I thought that their mission was to keep us informed by sharing their data and images.

But if they haven't updated their */lite/* images since yesterday, this lends even more credence to that idea.  They are pushing us off of their servers onto third parties' servers which render the images themselves from the raw data, and such rendering is way above and beyond my meager skill-set.

So WU and Allison House it is...
Regards, Jerry Wilkins
gwwilk@gmail.com

Offline miraculon

  • Sunrise Side Weather
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 3882
  • KE8DAF
    • Sunrise Side Weather in Rogers City MI USA
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2020, 10:02:35 AM »
Thanks for the update, more fun with NWS...

The never ending game of Whac-A-Mole...

Greg H.
Here's Randy's (ValentineWeather) WU Radar for your location: https://radblast.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/radar/WUNIDS_map?station=APX&brand=wui&num=18&delay=15&type=N0R&frame=0&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&showstorms=0&showlabels=1&severe=1&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&smooth=0

I like this better than the craptastic current NOAA/NWS offerings.

I'll give it try sometime when I get the chance.

Thanks.

Greg H.


Blitzortung Stations #706 and #1682
CoCoRaHS: MI-PI-1
CWOP: CW4114 and KE8DAF-13
WU: KMIROGER7
Amateur Radio Callsign: KE8DAF

Offline monymony

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 12
    • Cecil County Maryland Weather
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2020, 05:52:17 PM »
Quote
FYI, there are radar images now at https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/lite/

The regional radars are gone.   The national radar used to be big & beautiful - it is now a tiny 600 pixel image.

Had this thought too but looks like NWS is not updating these links when I looked this morning.  Everything is still from the 17th.  Fun times!

Looks like NWS started updating the LITE files again this afternoon.


Davis VP2 using WeatherCat v3.11
WU: KMDELKTO10 -  CWOP: EW3643 - CoCoRaHS: MD-CC-16

Offline 92merc

  • BismarckWeather.net
  • Forecaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 1099
  • BismarckWeather.net
    • BismarckWeather.net
Re: The new NWS radar site was implemented today
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2020, 05:58:48 PM »
Those LITE files are useless for me.  No borders or anything to see.

https://radar.weather.gov/ridge/lite/KBIS_loop.gif
https://www.BismarckWeather.net
Davis VP2, Cumulus, WeatherDisplay, Blitzortung, Saratoga Scripts, NOAA Stream via PI

 

anything