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General Weather/Earth Sciences Topics => Severe Weather => Topic started by: galfert on August 17, 2020, 10:04:37 AM

Title: Death Valley hits 130 degrees, highest temperature on Earth in over 100 years
Post by: galfert on August 17, 2020, 10:04:37 AM
There are plenty of news links on this new record...many more than these.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/death-valley-hits-130-degrees-053931284.html
https://nypost.com/2020/08/17/death-valley-reaches-130-degrees-potentially-earths-highest-temperature-report/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/death-valley-records-highest-temperature-107-years-heat-wave/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/08/17/death-valley-reaches-130-degrees-setting-records-and-alarming-climate-activists/#4cb9d4b25bde

Death Valley is also one of those few places that is below sea level.

Title: Re: Death Valley hits 130 degrees, highest temperature on Earth in over 100 years
Post by: DRoberts on August 17, 2020, 12:39:34 PM
Thought this might be okay to post here as long as we are posting extremes:

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/extremes/scec/records
Title: Re: Death Valley hits 130 degrees, highest temperature on Earth in over 100 years
Post by: miraculon on August 17, 2020, 01:52:49 PM
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Greg H.
Title: Re: Death Valley hits 130 degrees, highest temperature on Earth in over 100 years
Post by: Mattk on August 17, 2020, 05:17:24 PM
I always like the bit where they say it's possibly the highest temp recorded in more than a century .... which begs the question, you mean it's been hotter,which then asks the question, well why was otter more than a 100 years ago, sort of blows the climate change stuff out of the window? Supports the rational theory that the climate is ever changing and cyclic and quite different to the alarmists
Title: Re: Death Valley hits 130 degrees, highest temperature on Earth in over 100 years
Post by: waiukuweather on August 17, 2020, 11:13:49 PM
you are missing the point about how statistics works
no one said there was never any extremes
there always has been and always will be

think of the extremes , both hot and cold, as zig zag lines going up and down on a temperature line
as you lift the background warming, like an offset, then you end up breaking more extreme hot temperature records than extreme cold temperature records
i.e the same weather pattern that caused the record 100 years ago today probably would have resulted in a new record
put it another way, the weather pattern that caused that record 100 years ago was likely to have been extreme and wont happen again very often
but here you have that record being broken when the sun is in a very low and long period of no sunspots and there is a la nina at play...both should be causing colder conditions, not hotter conditions ..i.e this record was broken rather easily due to the background global warming

Title: Re: Death Valley hits 130 degrees, highest temperature on Earth in over 100 years
Post by: AWL on August 18, 2020, 02:33:21 AM
...this record was broken rather easily due to the background global warming...


Wow, they set a record in the desert. It's all over now. Maybe, it's just a once in a hundred year hot spell? Just like this coming winter it might set up for a once in a hundred year arctic outbreak. Or maybe God forbid somewhere, sometime in the future someone will have a once in a hundred year flood? Every time a record is broken out come the doomsayers and start this same debate  ](*,) Jeeze, give it a rest. 
Title: Re: Death Valley hits 130 degrees, highest temperature on Earth in over 100 years
Post by: waiukuweather on August 18, 2020, 03:07:45 AM
Not sure where u got doom sayer from in my post
Title: Re: Death Valley hits 130 degrees, highest temperature on Earth in over 100 years
Post by: Mattk on August 18, 2020, 06:40:51 AM
Lets face it even the meteorologists of many countries have been fiddling the data to achieve an unfactual outcome so yeah every time there is some little reason to hang around their climate perceptions they really try and hype it up.

When the raw data is left to stand-alone then maybe some might eventually return some credibility but of late there is no credibility trying to achieve a preconceived outcome