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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2010, 06:36:46 PM »
I was hoping to get some quick easy things to try out.  If 5.9.2 has known bus, and I believe this to be one of them, I don't think it is related to my other problems.
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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2010, 07:25:56 PM »
OK, let me be sure I have understood.   Please correct me if I have any of this (below) wrong.

You're running WeatherLink 5.9.2 and some version of the console firmware prior to the current version (1.90).

 First:

 Now, I keep getting "connection lost" issues.

I'm not sure, but it also seems that it may have lost connection and not upload to CWOP but it will still rapid fire to WU...  maybe...

First question:  where do you see the "connection lost" message?  Second question:  What does the WeatherLink log say?

So, WeatherLink frequently can't connect to your web site?  That is http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/

The way I'm reading http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/Current_Vantage_Pro_Plus.html, WeatherLink hasn't uploaded to that site since October 2007.  But perhaps I'm not looking in the correct place.  Where should I look for your main web site data?

I enjoyed the pictures on http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5985 - although those folks who like proper height perhaps won't.  But how in the heck are you going to get up that flagpole to pack up the Davis ISS and anemometer and move it?

CWOP looks like good data, and your MADIS status is green.   Weather Underground looks like it's updating fine, with regular rapid fire.

On the other hand:

- also having Internet issues ...  I seem to have access to some websites, but not others...  

So, you're having internet connection issues?  What kind?

If 5.9.2 has known bugs, and I believe this to be one of them, I don't think it is related to my other problems.

I'm not sure I understand.  What "known bug" in 5.9.2 are you referring to?   What other problems?  

Perhaps you're saying that you have internet issues, but they aren't related to connections?

I was hoping to get some quick easy things to try out.

A.  Look at the WeatherLink log file, and see what additional information is there about "connection lost".  

B.  Go back to whatever version of WeatherLink you previously used (before 5.8.2), and see if that fixes the problem with 5.9.2

C.  See what version of console firmware you have, and if it's not 1.90, update your firmware.
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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2010, 07:34:53 PM »
others have reported the connection lost issues with a USB data logger
it looks to be related to timing issues (i.e time out)
and might depend on the USB speed on the PC, speed of the PC, etc
also there are reports that its worse when using VVP
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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #28 on: May 03, 2010, 07:57:04 PM »
others have reported the connection lost issues with a USB data logger
it looks to be related to timing issues (i.e time out)
and might depend on the USB speed on the PC, speed of the PC, etc
also there are reports that its worse when using VVP

Yes, and yes, and that seems to also be related to console firmware version -- but it's reported as a problem with the connection between the computer and the USB logger.

I read this....

Now, I keep getting "connection lost" issues.

... may have lost connection and not upload to CWOP but it will still rapid fire to WU...  maybe...

...as referring to the WeatherLink connections with various upload destinations (WU, CWOP, personal website).  Which would all be equally affected by a problem with the logger.  [If he has a USB logger].  I can't see how a USB issue would cause a lost connection with a personal website.

But perhaps I'm reading that incorrectly.   If so, MooMommy can correct my reading error.

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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #29 on: May 03, 2010, 08:14:06 PM »
Yes, and yes, and that seems to also be related to console firmware version -- but it's reported as a problem with the connection between the computer and the USB logger.

I read this....

Now, I keep getting "connection lost" issues.

... may have lost connection and not upload to CWOP but it will still rapid fire to WU...  maybe...

...as referring to the WeatherLink connections with various upload destinations (WU, CWOP, personal website).  Which would all be equally affected by a problem with the logger.  [If she has a USB logger].  I can't see how a USB issue would cause a lost connection with a personal website.

But perhaps I'm reading that incorrectly.   If so, MooMommy can correct my reading error.
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I have been ignoring problems with my personal site.  Those are ancient problems and I gave up back when I had more time ;)
The "lost connection" is a popup that shows up in WeatherLink
Firmware may be former or current.  I am leaning towards current.
Will go take a look at my logs...

Thank you for your interest!!
Finally, my own weather page - Suffern - Pomona NY  http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/

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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #30 on: May 03, 2010, 08:29:35 PM »

The "lost connection" is a popup that shows up in WeatherLink


...lost connection with WHAT, is the key question.  Could you be more clear in telling us that?

And if it's the computer that lost connection with the data logger - what kind of logger do you have?

Cautionary footnote: the "rapid fire" module that you are using, was not made by Davis.  If Davis has made some change that adversely affects the timing of rapid fire, it's not Davis' problem to fix.


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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #31 on: May 03, 2010, 09:02:43 PM »
Getting long - my apologies  and thanks to all those helping and reading!!
OK, let me be sure I have understood.   Please correct me if I have any of this (below) wrong.

You're running WeatherLink 5.9.2 and some version of the console firmware prior to the current version (1.90).

possibly current; if not, the prior version.

 First:

 Now, I keep getting "connection lost" issues.

I'm not sure, but it also seems that it may have lost connection and not upload to CWOP but it will still rapid fire to WU...  maybe...

First question:  where do you see the "connection lost" message?  Second question:  What does the WeatherLink log say?

on my computer monitor - the WL bulletin page is usually there, this message :Communication Lost! Please check communication cable" will pop up.  If I am home, I will click OK and the bulletin will close.  The cable is fine.  I will click on the bulletin again, it will download info again and be fine for a while - times vary.

just lost again - log shows:
USB connection to console was dropped. 

The log shows a lot of "Loop 2 not supported"
Are there other types of errors I should look for?


So, WeatherLink frequently can't connect to your web site?  That is http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/

  Uploading seems ok most of the time.  I'm ignoring my personal page

The way I'm reading http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/Current_Vantage_Pro_Plus.html, WeatherLink hasn't uploaded to that site since October 2007.  But perhaps I'm not looking in the correct place.  Where should I look for your main web site data?

Most of my info goes to http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/wxpage.cgi?call=CW5985&last=12 and WU  I have not had much luck uploading to my personal site - would love to, but too time-consuming to figure out what I am doing wrong.  I know some about computers, but not enough about the internet and web pages

I enjoyed the pictures on http://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/C5985 - although those folks who like proper height perhaps won't.  But how in the heck are you going to get up that flagpole to pack up the Davis ISS and anemometer and move it?

LOL! Thanks!  I need to add/change photos!  My DH decided a while backto get the pole down with the help of his tractor - didn't work too well ;) so I sent the VP2 back to Davis for repairs. That is when they changed it from serial to USB and updated the firmware.  Some time before Oct 18, 2008 it was re-sited at a more appropriate height, where I can clean it out on a more regular basis as well. The flagpole sits inside a section of PVC so can be removed (hopefully with more help than the tractor!)

CWOP looks like good data, and your MADIS status is green.   Weather Underground looks like it's updating fine, with regular rapid fire.

On the other hand:

- also having Internet issues ...  I seem to have access to some websites, but not others...  

So, you're having internet connection issues?  What kind?

I think firewall issues.  I know enough about computers to get into deep trouble, so am trying not to mess up even more.  It is NOT spyware or virus, etc related at least!

If 5.9.2 has known bugs, and I believe this to be one of them, I don't think it is related to my other problems.

I'm not sure I understand.  What "known bug" in 5.9.2 are you referring to?   What other problems?  

Perhaps you're saying that you have internet issues, but they aren't related to connections?
correct

I was hoping to get some quick easy things to try out.

A.  Look at the WeatherLink log file, and see what additional information is there about "connection lost".  

B.  Go back to whatever version of WeatherLink you previously used (before 5.8.2), and see if that fixes the problem with 5.9.2

C.  See what version of console firmware you have, and if it's not 1.90, update your firmware.
Where can I find that?

Finally, my own weather page - Suffern - Pomona NY  http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/

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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #32 on: May 03, 2010, 09:30:08 PM »
dalecoy, there are lots of reports of the lost connection issue
its a lost commmunication problem with the USB data logger by weather link

not sure why you are taking this attitude with MooMummy?


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just lost again - log shows:
USB connection to console was dropped.

The log shows a lot of "Loop 2 not supported"

this is the important info here
and looks like a firmware update has set the console to loop2 mode which weather link is not able to use
(and neither can VVP)

that loop2 mode needs to be unset maybe?
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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2010, 09:34:20 PM »
<SNIP>

The log shows a lot of "Loop 2 not supported"

this is the important info here
and looks like a firmware update has set the console to loop2 mode which weather link is not able to use
(and neither can VVP)

that loop2 mode needs to be unset maybe?

how?  that was one of the first things I just went looking for...
Finally, my own weather page - Suffern - Pomona NY  http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/

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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2010, 09:37:40 PM »
Tried switching to 5.8.2 for a while - seems to be working fine... or at least better - no lost connection issues...
Finally, my own weather page - Suffern - Pomona NY  http://mysite.verizon.net/vze4fyr3/suffern.pomona.ny/

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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #35 on: May 03, 2010, 10:03:23 PM »
thats what alot of people have done, gone back to that version
(there are lots of threads/posts about this problem)
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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2010, 10:08:10 PM »
OK, USB Logger.  (see note below).  I'm just having a hard time understanding the questions and information, although I'm quite sure you're trying to be crystal clear.  For instance, the meaning of "that" in the question below.

Re:
>>>C.  See what version of console firmware you have, and if it's not 1.90, update your firmware.
>>>Where can I find that?

1. From the manual:  "Press and hold DONE then press the + key at the same time to display the console
firmware version in the ticker at the bottom of the screen."

If you don't have 1.90, then:

2.  The latest firmware is http://www.davisnet.com/support/weather/download/vp2_wireless_firmware_1_90.exe -- you said you have the VP2 wireless model.

After you have 1.90, if it still doesn't work, I recommend turning off rapid fire, and seeing if that helps.

Re: USB logger:

A.  I don't suppose you have changed the USB cable recently?  [If so, the new cable might be the cause]

B.  You said Davis changed out your serial logger for a USB logger.  Did you request that?  Any idea why?  I personally recommend using the serial logger, because a few people have problems with the USB logger.  You could be one of those few.

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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #37 on: May 03, 2010, 10:16:50 PM »
Tried switching to 5.8.2 for a while - seems to be working fine... or at least better - no lost connection issues...

Oh.  Missed that.  Glad you got it fixed.

I'm running 5.8.3 on my site because I didn't see any new features of WeatherLink that I needed.   http://www.thecoys.net/weather/Current_Vantage_Pro_Plus.htm

It still wouldn't hurt to update your console firmware, if it's not the latest.  1.90 seems to be a bit better in some small respects, than 1.82, and I don't know of any reports that 1.90 breaks anything.  But be sure to re-sync the console with WeatherLink after the update, including making sure the console date/time is correct.

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Re: 5.9.2
« Reply #38 on: May 04, 2010, 02:54:19 PM »
maybe the new WL version uses the new LOOP 2 mode,but that needs a recent console firmware update to work
and if not, causes the communication timing issues (connection lost) problems
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