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Weather Station Hardware => Ambient Weather and Ecowitt and other Fine Offset clones => Topic started by: galfert on September 03, 2019, 09:01:34 PM
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Ambient WS-2000 vs. Ecowitt HP2551 - plus GW1000
Purpose: This thread is to discuss the differences between the Ambient WS-2000 and the Ecowitt HP2551 and any other similar Fine Offset clones. It also highlights the compatibility of the GW1000 with either branded station sensors.
UPDATE: Both of these stations have now been updated to support even more sensors.
Key Points:
- The Ecowitt HP2551 is not better than the Ambient WS-2000. They are equal and a bit different in software which changes some things and hardware compatibility. Some things may be better in one versus the other.
- For some people the Ambient brand is not available as it is only sold in the USA.
- Typically the only way to upload to Ambientweather.net is to use an Ambient console. But there is an exception which is a Meteobridge with added Ambientweather.net license. An Ecowitt (or other Fine Offset clone) user could then add Ambientweather.net with a Meteobridge and no true Ambient console. A WeatherBridge is a Meteobridge sold by Ambient that already had this license. But you can roll your own Meteobridge and add that license if desired.
- A user with only an Ecowitt console may wonder why they even need Ambientweather.net since they have Ecowitt.net. Although Ecowitt.net looks nicer there are some key features that are only available via Ambientweather.net; for eample the Internet API is available for many 3rd party weather software and web templates. Also using Amazon Alexa or Google Assistant is only possible for now with Ambientweather.net as supported skills. Ambientweather.net also allows to download data.
- The only way to upload to Ecowitt.net is with an Ecowitt console (or with other Fine Offset console, but not Ambient). Good news is that anyone with an Ambient station can add an Ecowitt GW1000 and it will pick up all your Ambient sensors, then you can gain Ecowitt.net capability.
- If you have both an Ambient console and an Ecowitt GW1000 then you can take advantage of both services (Ambientweather.net & Ecowitt.net). Neither company's cloud service is better. They each have features that the other doesn't.
- The sensors look similar but Ecowitt sensors are not picked up by Ambient consoles...(save for some exceptions like the separate rain gauge, which could disappear with a future firmware update.)
- In order to combine and use more than one console, the sensors also all need to be on the same frequency. Ambient branded sensors and consoles only use 915 MHz.
- The Ecowitt GW1000 is a very powerful option to ether Ambient or Ecowitt station (or other Fine Offset). This is primarily because it is the only console to support a local network API. This local network API allows you to expand the capabilities of your station to easily support all sensors with no technical know-how, because you don't need to know how to use API's. All you need to do is install the compatible 3rd party software and point it to the GW1000's IP address and you are done. For now the compatible 3rd party software to take advantage of this API is Cumulus MX, Meteobridge and Weather-Display. The Meteobridge is software you run on a TP-Link travel router and Weather-Display is software that you can run on a computer with various operating system (PC, Mac, or Linux like a Raspberry Pi). There are other ways to get your data to yet other software even without the GW1000 but that requires a bit more technical know how (like WeeWx, but WeeWx will soon support the local API). It is especially challenging using Ambient to get redirected data because there is no "Customized Server" settings in their consoles, which is why having the GW1000 is such a nice enhancement.
- The appeal to use 3rd party weather software like Cumulus MX, Meteobridge, Weather-Display or other is to enable the capabilities to upload your data to many many more places; CWOP, AWEAKS, PWSweather, Windy, WindGuru, OpenWeatherMap, and others. Plus you can upload to your own website. Plus you can upload to your own SQL database server. Not to mention you have your data locally to analyse with other software or transfer to other future software or services.
- The GW1000 API also lets you configure multiple 3rd party software simultaneously. For example Cumulus MX, Weather-Display and Meteobridge can be supported at the same time with just one GW1000.
- Ecowitt consoles have a configuration for "Customized server" which can push either WU format or Ecowitt format data to a server of your choice. This is not the same thing as the GW1000 API. The "Customized server" option is Push technology to just one server, whereas the GW1000 API is Pull technology for as many devices/software that ask for the data.
- The ObserverIP device (or others like it - Aercus Weather Logger) have been surpassed by the capabilities of the GW1000. It is no longer necessary to do screen scrapes or network redirections which were the only options available to the ObserverIP. Some non-Ambient firmware of the ObserverIP (like Aercus) do have the capability to send data to customized server, but that is just WU formated data and does not have all the sensors.
- Ther are other station options from both Ambient and Ecowitt. Some of these options are less capable like the WS-2902A and the WH2910C. These do not have the capability to add sensors. But you can add a GW1000 and with it gain the extra sensors and the API software capabilities.
- There are yet more Ecowitt station options with separate outdoor sensors instead of using all-in-one sensor array. Those options are available to Ecowitt console users. But they are not compatible with Ambient consoles with the exception of the experimental beta WS-5000 which I don't think I'll ever recommend because of the ultrasonic anemometer.
- The GW1000 supports up to 4 PM2.5 sensors, 8 temp/hum sensors, 8 soil moisture sensors.
- The GW1000 is a full console without a display. You can run a full weather station with just a GW1000 and no display. Which is essentially what a GW1001 is. But you can also get an Ambient WS-1900 and add a GW1000 and you pretty much have the same thing plus a display for a bit lower cost (if you are in the US).
- Some other key points in the attached graphic below:
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Soil sensor from Ambient coming soon estimated Q1 2020. Newest WS-2000 firmware now supports soil sensors but they have to be Ambient branded.
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My graphic above is already outdated... #-o
The GW1000 now supports:
- Water leak detector
- Lighting detector
UPDATE: Graphic above now updated
January 7, 2020
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This is incredible news. Thank you!
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Newest firmware from Ambient for the WS-2000 now supports the soil sensor. Ambient expects the soil sensor to be available for purchase Q1 2020 and that is just an estimate time frame.
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Graphic in OP updated.
Added:
- Lightning sensor to Ecowitt
- Water Leak sensor to Ecowitt
- AWEKAS to Ecowitt
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And you can add CumulusMX to the GW1000 compatible software ;)
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And you can add CumulusMX to the GW1000 compatible software ;)
YES! Done. Thank you for reminding me.
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Looks like I'll be getting a GW1000 to allow me to send data to CWOP. Can't beat it for the price on Amazon, that's for sure. Requires a little technical know-how but that doesn't scare me. The Amazon blurb is suggesting a short USB cord to get it away from the power supply to prevent issues, has anyone noticed this? I've seen postings of them sitting right on the brick, and lord knows I have a bunch of those....
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I think most people run the GW1000 power off a USB port rather than direct USB power adapter. I run mine off the Meteobridge's USB port, and I've seen others do it off the Raspberry Pi or off a laptop USB ports. No need for extension cable then. Instead of getting an extension cable, if you had no available USB port, I would recommend using a powered USB hub to remedy the USB shortfall. Since there is no data via USB, the GW1000 can be powered anywhere. No issues reported by powering directly by a device's USB port, which I suppose is different than powering directly by an AC/DC converter.
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Mine is directly connected to some old AC to USB phone charger. I have not seen any issues. It is on the opposite side of my house from the weather station. I have several sensors (T/H, soil moisture, PM2.5, and they all connect with no issues to the GW1000.
One thing to keep in mind, the indoor T/H is cabled into the unit so think about where you want the inside measurements to be taken.
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I’ve had my GW1000 plugged into the wall via an Apple usb charger since the day I got it, temp/humidity sensor cord still bundled together, never had an issue.
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Sounds good. I put it on a brick myself, and its been up and running a few days, no issues.
Worst case a 3 foot cable on Amazon is $3 and maybe two days away if that. But I can see where some old malfunctioning brick could put out enough noise to affect it, I guess.
If its in the manual, it probably happened to one person and thus its there to CYA.
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Slightly off topic, but the compatibility post is closed. I have the Ambient Weather WS1401-IP. Can the GW1000 receive data from the 1401 and transmit it to the various displays?
Thanks,
David
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Slightly off topic, but the compatibility post is closed. I have the Ambient Weather WS1401-IP. Can the GW1000 receive data from the 1401 and transmit it to the various displays?
Thanks,
David
It doesn't work that way. The GW1000 doesn't talk to any console, it is a console itself. The GW1000 gets sensor data directly from the sensors. You don't even need a display. And yes the GW1000 is compatible with the WS-1401-IP sensor array. That sensor array is called the WH24.
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Just to let everyone know the Water Leak Sensor (WH55) will be listed on the www.ecowitt.com site sometime after February 1st. I've had it testing the past few weeks and it works as advertised (or will be). Sends alerts to your email if set up. It works as previous water leak detectors that did not send alerts. It's loud as it should be about 90db. Lightning sensor coming soon also.
The above was posted with Lucy's permission from Ecowitt.com.
Andy
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My GW1000 will arrive today from Amazon. Will the gw1000 and my ws-2000 alone allow me to send to CWOP? Or will I still need a weatherbridge?
This weather jargon stuff always makes my head hurt #-o
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My GW1000 will arrive today from Amazon. Will the gw1000 and my ws-2000 alone allow me to send to CWOP? Or will I still need a weatherbridge?
This weather jargon stuff always makes my head hurt #-o
The GW1000 will make it easier to upload to CWOP, but it won't upload to CWOP itself. The way the GW1000 helps is because it makes getting the data easier than getting it from the WS-2000. What you need in conjunction with the GW1000 is some software to read that data and then send it to CWOP. There are many software options to read data from the GW1000. The WeatherBridge (Meteobridge) is just one way. Other ways are Cumulus, Weather-Display, or WeeWx. Those four software choices are the most popular. But there are yet other ways. For example you can run a script (search as it has been posted on this forum) to get data from the GW1000 and then upload to CWOP. Or you can pull data from Ambientweather.net to then upload to CWOP (this method doesn't require a GW1000). There are probably yet other ways.
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The new update allowing it to reconnect if it can't find wi-fi is excellent too, got it last night and had to reset my routers today, hooked right back up after 3 minutes.
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It was mentioned earlier in this thread that it might be advisable to use a USB extension cord on the GW1000.
Someone wondered if anyone had ever had a problem with that.
That would be me.
I had an intermittent drop out problem with my GW1000. After many configuration changes I solved the problem with a three foot cord.
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It was mentioned earlier in this thread that it might be advisable to use a USB extension cord on the GW1000.
Someone wondered if anyone had ever had a problem with that.
That would be me.
I had an intermittent drop out problem with my GW1000. After many configuration changes I solved the problem with a three foot cord.
X2
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I have read in the manual of Ecowitt HP2551 that it measures humidity from 1% to 99%, can it really measure less than 10%?
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I have read in the manual of Ecowitt HP2551 that it measures humidity from 1% to 99%, can it really measure less than 10%?
It measures 10% to 99% with the WH32 sensor. It will measure 1% to 99% or 100% with the new optional WH32-EP.
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Excellent Thread Galfert.
The GW1000 is definetely a game changer piece of hardware.
I Just ordered one on Amazon (Galfert: you should create your amazon refer code).
The GW1000 protocol seem pretty simple, Im not sure if exist an official doc around.
I'll definetely support it in my app: https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=38940.0
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The API has not been publicly posted yet, but if you have an application that wishes to use it you can approach Ecowitt directly through Lucy or via Galfert or myself and we might be able to provide the API documentation.
The alternative is to use the custom server output approach where your app receives the data rather than interrogating (requests the data) the GW1000
Quite a few folks have gone down that road as it does not require the API documentation
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The API has not been publicly posted yet, but if you have an application that wishes to use it you can approach Ecowitt directly through Lucy or via Galfert or myself and we might be able to provide the API documentation.
The alternative is to use the custom server output approach where your app receives the data rather than interrogating (requests the data) the GW1000
Quite a few folks have gone down that road as it does not require the API documentation
I will definetely try to do some "pull" experiments before start querying requests around.
Ofcourse as an introvert insecure developer I would prefer an official documentation/position from companies about their policies instead of having to ask around to people for "mights" and "maybes" risking to waste time if they realize that people tinkering isn't the best for them but this is the world we're living and this is just an hobby project for me.
You and Galfert saw my posts about my intention to work on it and didn't offer to help. I'm not a begger and I never understood security through obscurity.
They could have encrypted the traffic and sell to whoever wanted to pay for a commercial software if they don't want people to play with their stuff.
btw rhese half baked polices are just annoyingly common all over tech companies, its definetely nothing new or specific about Ecowitt, Ambient Weather or whoever is in charge in this specific case.
I'll discuss my progress on
https://discord.gg/7yXwugw
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You and Galfert saw my posts about my intention to work on it and didn't offer to help.
I didn't offer to help???? hu? All I do around here is help...and you've thanked me. I'm sorry but maybe I'm misunderstanding your request for help.
And I'm going to stick up for Mandrake too...which is an excellent member and also very helpful.
It is difficult to keep track of all threads to see what was discussed. So remind me again what help it is that you are not getting.
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Cheeriop,
As far as I know there has been no official release of the API, and frankly I don't expect one for general use (solely my opinion). There are perhaps some agreements that have been made to foster product growth with individuals with proven technology and already established uses. I am OK with that. These units are sold primarily "as is" to for people to use as a weather station.
There are other open avenues established , such as the custom server option, that , in reality, offers "near" the same benefits. As a developer , you should be able to understand how to use for your own benefit. The fact that there is a way to do this is extraordinary, sure, there is not documentation on it, and probably for good reason , such as the manufacturer would then have to support the documentation . Hence, you can peruse this forum and see how other's have done it.
I read back, I'm sorry, but I didn't see you requesting specific help from anyone, and as you can probably gather, this forum is not operated or moderated by the manufacturer (although they may comment) of the products in question and advice given is purely voluntary. You seem to be getting upset that no one has offered you help for a question you have not really asked.
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Oh, I'm not upset at all and I'm not expecting or asking any help from anybody and I'm sorry to drag galfert into this argument.
It was just a general rant about how these things are usually managed and triggered by mandrake that with:
"...you can approach Ecowitt directly through Lucy or via Galfert or myself and we might be able to provide the API documentation."
seem to imply that they're holding the "Secret book of knowledge" for whatever reason I don't really care about in this specific case [tup]
I usually post around because having people interested just boost a bit my energy and enthusiasm level and check how different they feel about things but I enjoy doing things regardless because I like the challenges
Stay safe everybody and happy 2021
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So by lack of help you are referring to nobody handing you the API that practically nobody has. Mandrake doesn't have so I'm not sure why he gets thrown under the bus. I have it but I'm under NDA. The 3rd party software developers have it by having worked through me and they are also under NDA. That also means that I have any no say nor control over the availability of the API. I'm only acting under Ecowitt's strict orders. Several users like Mandrake, Olicat, Rover1822 and I have offered you other perspectives and options to work within the Ecowitt protocol. We have also explained why the API is under such tight control. If you still don't agree with the state of things then there is nobody to take that up with other than Ecowitt. I would therefore conclude that it is not true that nobody is offering help. Everyone mentioned has done everything that they can do to provide you with the information that they can give you.
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Agree with Galfert that its not anyone's intention to withhold information that can be freely shared!
Perhaps I chose my wording poorly, but what I was suggesting was that if you have a genuine application idea that you feel worthy you could discuss with Galfert or I and we could broker the discussion with Ecowitt (Lucy) or you can cut out the middlemen and go direct to Lucy which in the circumstances would probably be best!
As Galfert has stated our relationship with Ecowitt is on a trust basis and neither of us would wish to break their trust so cannot directly share such documentation and knowledge that we have without their consent. This is with the full intention of furthering the needs of the enthusiast community.
I hope that you understand the position we are in and trying to achieve for all. After all there are few manufacturers around that engage with their community as does Ecowitt/Fine Offset.
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So by lack of help you are referring to nobody handing you the API that practically nobody has. Mandrake doesn't have so I'm not sure why he gets thrown under the bus. I have it but I'm under NDA. The 3rd party software developers have it by having worked through me and they are also under NDA. That also means that I have any no say nor control over the availability of the API.
No, I never asked for any help and I'm not throwing anybody under any bus.
I'm an hobbist that like to tinker. I shared with other hobbists that I was going to play with the GW1000 protocol.
I had no idea about any documentation, if anybody is under any NDA or any legal obligation about querying a device connected to my network; I saw other people playing with it and I thought it could have be helpful for other people.
Implementing an API query is matter of few hours and completely legal with the owner blessing and documentation versus days of sniffing packets, reverse engineering and potentially illegal without the documentation.
I'm probably going to do it regardless and not sharing my progress on here since Ecowitt official position about it and I'm assuming full responsability for doing it.
I installed (the very impressive) Cumuls MX and they seem to have implemented the protocol and release the source code
(that would be pretty much like having the documentation).
Ofcourse they have their own legal and documentation problems:
Note: Cumulus MX is strictly for non-commercial, non-government use only. It contains products produced by Highsoft which are not free for commercial and governmental use.
Thanks Galfert for clarify your, Ecowitt and Mandrake position.
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You can add the soil moisture sensor (WH31SM), lightning detector (WH31L), Leak Detector (WH31La), and Probed thermometer (WH31P) to the WS2000.
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You can add the soil moisture sensor (WH31SM), lightning detector (WH31L), Leak Detector (WH31La), and Probed thermometer (WH31P) to the WS2000.
True. As this is an old thread now that is just over a year old, things have changed...for the better. I'm not going to revise the original post to cover these new sensors. But there isn't much need to do so anyway for two reasons. First this thread is about the differences and some of these new sensors are common to both stations. This thread is about the differences. The other reason is because there is a new thread that will hopefully better serve as a way to document all of the sensor possibilities that all of these stations can support:
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0
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whoops, didn't mean to necro the thread. Having installed the WS-2000 today I was going through the forums and saw the graphic was lacking those.
I'll check out the new thread.
Thanks!
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Thanks, @galfret for all these comparisons. I hope it is OK to post to an old thread. It is sticky so I assuming it is ok. :grin:
From the OP you said this about the GW1000.
The Ecowitt GW1000 is a very powerful option to ether Ambient or Ecowitt station (or other Fine Offset). This is primarily because it is the only console to support a local network API. This local network API allows you to expand the capabilities of your station to easily support all sensors with no technical know-how, because you don't need to know how to use API's. All you need to do is install the compatible 3rd party software and point it to the GW1000's IP address and you are done. For now the compatible 3rd party software to take advantage of this API is Cumulus MX, Meteobridge and Weather-Display. The Meteobridge is software you run on a TP-Link travel router and Weather-Display is software that you can run on a computer with various operating system (PC, Mac, or Linux like a Raspberry Pi). There are other ways to get your data to yet other software even without the GW1000 but that requires a bit more technical know how (like WeeWx, but WeeWx will soon support the local API). It is especially challenging using Ambient to get redirected data because there is no "Customized Server" settings in their consoles, which is why having the GW1000 is such a nice enhancement.
I was wondering if anything has changed? I am looking at the GW1000 for the custom server (API) option. I would like to pull the sensors into Home Assistant. Have they added exposed API to the 2000? This is my first PWS and I debating if I need a console. I know the spousal support will be better if she does not have to load the HA app to see the sensor data. I am in the US.
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AFAIK Weewx now support LAN API through a plugin.
Unfortunately I don'y know if HASS support these API, maybe the custom server.
There is also the FOSHKplugin that, configured as server were you push GW1000 data, then can push data to a LOT of services.
There is an app on Android (maybe iOS too) that can pull data from GW1000 and show them as a console. Or you can use just Wsview.
There is an app for windows that can pull data from GW1000.
Ecowitt will be publish soon the API for pulling data from Ecowitt.net
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Unfortunately I don'y know if HASS support these API, maybe the custom server.
Thanks for your answer, but I did not ask the question right. Let me add a little context.
I know the GW-1000 will work with Ha, what I am curious if the WS-2000 has been upgraded to support an open API? My assumption is no since that would obsolete the GW-1000.
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Hard to say because Ambient is sold in USA at 915MHz and has a custom firmware.
Looking here
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0
WS-2000 should be an HP2551 rebranded but maybe with different firmware.
If it works with WsView like HP2551 I believe that it uses the same Ecowitt LAN API but I am not sure. But you can try for free!
If not I believe that it uses a different API protocol but should be not very different.
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Hi!
I know the GW-1000 will work with Ha, what I am curious if the WS-2000 has been upgraded to support an open API?
We'd have to first clarify what is actually meant by API.
The GW1000 offers different ways to transfer the data:
1. custom server
an ASCII line is sent at intervals from the GW1000 to any address via http / POST
2. GW1000 API
offers prepared programs the possibility to query the current weather data from the GW1000
3. Network API - e.g. at ecowitt.net (but also e.g. Awekas)
enables the query of the data that has already been uploaded from the GW1000 to ecowitt.net or the respective cloud provider
Ambient Weather stations do not offer the GW1000 API - this is only available for GW1000 and WH2650.
Ambient also offers the custom server function (although the keys look slightly different and the software must explicitly support this Ambient Weather format).
There is also a network API from Ambient. But this is also different from the Ecowitt network API.
However, I don't know which procedure HA can use.
I mean, even if HA supports any GW1000 protocol, it doesn't mean that HA can handle data from an Ambient Weather station.
The safe way should then be to purchase a GW1000.
Regards, Oliver
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Oliver , thanks for doing the API clarification. I was about to do it, but you did it better
Ambient also offers the custom server function (although the keys look slightly different and the software must explicitly support this Ambient Weather format).
There is also a network API from Ambient. But this is also different from the Ecowitt network API.
I just checked the custom server option via WSView for my WS-2000. Although I did not test it, it offers both the Ambient output, and the WU output (at least that is what is shown on the screen, if I get really bored I will set up an intercept of them)
As I have the WS-2000 and GW1000s , it is kind of redundant for me to work with the WS-2000 output, as I get what I need from the GW1000.
That being said, if you want the pressure and indoor temp from the WS-2000 then you would use that custom server option using the Ambient protocol. If I remember right the WU protocol doesn't even bother to send out the indoor temp as it is not used at WU.
As far as what was mentioned about having access to the API (whatever one) for the WS-2000 would make the GW1000 obsolete. No, although Fine Offset manufactured, Ambient does not market the GW1000. It might make it unneeded to use the API functions , but obsolete, nope.
We really should come up with a better phraseology or acronym for the custom server option and stop pretending it is an API, because it isn't. And yes I just used it all over the place, lol.
- Rover
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Ambient Weather stations do not offer the GW1000 API - this is only available for GW1000 and WH2650.
Here
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0
it seems that WS-2000 is an HP2551 rebranded.
Going down it's shown that HP2551 appears on WSview, but I don't know if WSview can get live data like it do on GW1000. I don't know what happens when you click on it.
There is a comparison here
Ambient WS-2000 vs. Ecowitt HP2551 - plus GW1000
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=37760.0 (edit, it's the first post of this thread! :oops:)
but I didn't find if you can pull data from this console or not or if you can set a custom server upload so you can use FOSHKplugin or other software.
@Rover11822
Yes in WU you don't have the internal temperature.
I don't know what Ambient offers since is not available for non Ambient customers or Meteobridge customers.
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Ambient Weather stations do not offer the GW1000 API - this is only available for GW1000 and WH2650.
Here
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0
it seems that WS-2000 is an HP2551 rebranded.
Going down it's shown that HP2551 appears on WSview, but I don't know if WSview can get live data like it do on GW1000. I don't know what happens when you click on it.
There is a comparison here
Ambient WS-2000 vs. Ecowitt HP2551 - plus GW1000
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=37760.0
but I didn't find if you can pull data from this console or not or if you can set a custom server upload so you can use FOSHKplugin or other software.
@Rover11822
Yes in WU you don't have the internal temperature.
I don't know what Ambient offers since is not available for non Ambient customers or Meteobridge customers.
I think Galfert or someone else did an intercept of the Ambient WS-2000, and I apologize for not remembering who, and being too lazy to search. :)
WSView does not show live data for a WS-2000. It does allow some configurations, like outbound http for the various servers, like the custom server
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OK I got bored for a few and stuck up a listener for the ws-2000 , this is for mine, using the Ambient protocol (yes, doze, .net, don't hit me)
But regardless, the request (get), is going to be the same, no matter how you listen for it (programming language, wireshark (but you would need an open port) , etc). And I believe Oliver has already played with this
request:
/data/report/stationtype=AMBWeatherV4.2.9&PASSKEY=NONOFYOURDAMDBUSINESS&dateutc=2021-05-31+18:13:27&tempinf=69.4&battin=1&humidityin=60&baromrelin=30.304&baromabsin=30.304&tempf=66.9&battout=1&humidity=67&winddir=31&winddir_avg10m=299&windspeedmph=2.5&windspdmph_avg10m=0.9&windgustmph=5.8&maxdailygust=10.3&hourlyrainin=0.000&eventrainin=0.000&dailyrainin=0.000&weeklyrainin=0.327&monthlyrainin=1.736&yearlyrainin=16.268&solarradiation=710.53&uv=6&temp1f=64.4&humidity1=71&temp2f=73.8&humidity2=58&temp7f=-0.9&temp8f=3.6&batt1=1&batt2=1&batt7=1&batt8=1&pm25=9.0&pm25_24h=12.7&batt_25=1&pm25_in=9.0&pm25_in_24h=14.0&batt_25in=1&batt_co2=1
And again, this is not an API, this is just a data push
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Hi!
And I believe Oliver has already played with this
That's true. FOSHKplugin can also process Ambient Weather format. So you also could convert this to Ecowitt, save to InfluxDB or feed an MQTT server.
But HA is not a known target yet.
The Ambient keys are slightly different than these from Ecowitt - e.g. for soil moisture and the WH57 (lightning). But there're some other differences.
Back to topic: what is needed for connecting to HA? (I still recommend the safe way to buy a additional GW1000 if it is deemed to work reliably with HA.)
Oliver
Regards, Oliver
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OK, let's forget the Ambient protocol push for a second. If the push is WU, and the goal is based on rainfall, that should be more generic
but if you have Ambient branded soil moisture sensors , well then it gets a little more complicated. I would still use the GW1000 .
(other words , I agree)
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WSView does not show live data for a WS-2000. It does allow some configurations, like outbound http for the various servers, like the custom server
This market have so much confusion for no reason:
The WS2000 is a Bundle (console+sensors) and cost 280 dollars.
The WS2000 is also just the console at 180 dollars
The GW1000 cost 35 bucks and does what a console does but without a display...
All consoles upload their data to X internet services.
The GW1000 support every sensors that the WS2000 support (and more)
ONLY GW1000 and the WH2650 server sensor data on a local network.
The software WSView get the data directly from the Consoles; not from the sensors or weather stations, not from internet.
Everything should be pretty obvious, simple and straightforward but obviously isn't.
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Maybe there will be the WS1900 (or WN1900), similar to GW1000 but with a display!
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Maybe there will be the WS1900 (or WN1900), similar to GW1000 but with a display!
That seem a great idea.
But I still love the concept of a really small cheap modular minimal GW1000 style solution
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It was mentioned earlier in this thread that it might be advisable to use a USB extension cord on the GW1000. Someone wondered if anyone had ever had a problem with that.
That would be me.
I had an intermittent drop out problem with my GW1000. After many configuration changes I solved the problem with a three foot cord.
Found a cheap GW1000 clone on sale (ProTech WSMG1000) for 18 EUR. Placed it directly on a quite modern USB charger. Everything worked OK. But after something like 24 hours both the WSView and the WSView Plus apps no longer could connect to the console. Just displayed "Connecting..." The console was publishing data from my sersors to Ecowitt and WU with no hickups, though. Pulled the console from the adapter and everything worked for another 24 hours. Then same issue. Bought 5 metres of extension cord (almost as cheap as 1.8 metres). Has been going for 48 hours now. So, the advice not to plug the console directly into a charger seems legit for some of us.
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The actual Ecowitt GW1100 now comes with an extension cord for that very reason!
Stuart