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Offline tricky

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Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« on: December 04, 2022, 02:27:03 PM »
I've an old console (Ventus W830) that I have from an old setup which is happily providing a 2nd display to my EcoWitt HP2551 sensors setup. 

Lately I've noticed that the wifi isn't connected so today I've attempted to reset the device/wifi.  I can put the device in to Wifi setup mode (rapidly flashing wifi symbol) by holding down the Rain and Alarm buttons for a few seconds but I never see the Wifi network advertised by the console so cannot setup the device using WS View.

Tried various ways of reseting / replacing batteries (PSU is connected) but cannot get anywhere with the app!  Device suggests it is a v1.03 on 1st boot.

Any suggestions/recommendations or have I a defunct device for Wifi?
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Offline kittcat

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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2022, 05:40:33 PM »
I have the very same issue. :-(
Wondering if anyone out there has any ideia before buying a new console.

Offline Gyvate

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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2022, 05:57:23 PM »
did you update the WiFi firmware to 1.6.4 ?
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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2022, 06:18:25 PM »
When I turn on the console it says ver 1.03.

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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2022, 06:24:20 PM »
that's not how it works.
Did you read our MUST READ thread https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0
especially the firmware section ? Why did we ever mark it MUST READ ... ? :roll:
You have to install the WS View (Plus) app and, if you don't find your console in its (WS View+) device list, do the pairing again.
Then, when log into the device list (tap), a WiFi firmware update will be offered if the current version is < 1.6.4
The device firmware you are talking about cannot be updated.
WS2350 1.6.7, GW1000(3) 1.7.7,WH2650 WiFi (2) 1.7.7 (test/backup), GW1100 2.3.1, GW2000(3) 3.1.1, HP2551 1.9.5,5.1.5;HP3500 1.7.2,WS3800 1.2.8, WN1910 1.2.3,WN1980 1.2.3;
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MeteobridgePro(2)[test,prod] 5.8 Mar 01 2024, 15185 - Blake-Larsen Sun Recorder - RPi4/weewx 4.8.0/4.10.2/CumulusMX 3283/Meteobridge RPi4B-2GB(3169)
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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2022, 07:42:30 PM »
Just because I gave you a wrong answer doesn't mean I didn't read the post, I just assumed that number had something to do with the Wi-Fi firmware version you were asking about, but it makes sense that it's the console firmware version instead.

I have another Ventus W830 console where I paired and connected successfully with the WS View Plus App and updated the Wi-Fi firmware to version 1.6.4.

I had already tried using the WS View Plus App with my second (problematic) W830 console but I can't pair with it. In this console the flashing Wi-Fi key combination is Rain + Alarm (M-A mode I think, from another post I read) and an EasyWeather-WIFI SSID never shows up. On my first (good) console the key combination is Wind + Pressure and I could see an EasyWeather-WIFI SSID and connect to it.

tricky's first post explained exactly what is happening to me on my second console. I can add the following:
I switched off the 5GHz Wi-Fi network and left the 2.4Ghz network active. I tried the WS Tool App on Android and iPhone, both didn't work.

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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2022, 02:57:23 AM »
that's not how it works.
Did you read our MUST READ thread https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0
especially the firmware section ? Why did we ever mark it MUST READ ... ? :roll:
You have to install the WS View (Plus) app and, if you don't find your console in its (WS View+) device list, do the pairing again.
Then, when log into the device list (tap), a WiFi firmware update will be offered if the current version is < 1.6.4
The device firmware you are talking about cannot be updated.

Like @kittcat Yes I've read this on a number of times  [tup]

The pairing is the issue - I doesn't get seen by the App/Wifi at all
I've personally never updated my WS830 as far as I can remember
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Offline Gyvate

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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2022, 03:46:56 AM »
I didn't mean to offend  ....
but we get so many questions where the text shows that obviously the basic thread wasn't read as many answers can be found there ...
we created this thread not to have to answer the same questions for the umpteenth time ...

So it seems that this console of yours is somehow not very cooperative.
If the WiFi symbol on the console screen is blinking but no access point with the SSID EasyWeather-WIFIxxxx is visible for either an iPhone or Android phone, then the console is very likely to be defective for the WiFi portion.

The potential 5 GHz "competition" (when using the same SSID for the 2.4 and 5 GHz networks) during the pairing etc. only comes into play once the app has connected to the console WLAN (EasyEather-WIFIxxxx SSID). But this doesn't seem to be the case here.

As for the OP, this shouldn't be an issue as he (she?) says he's using it to read the (W65/WS69 ?) outdoor sensor data in parallel to his HP25x0 console. Being connected to the network is only interesting for posting data. The reception of RF data from the sensor array should not be affected

And if the WiFi symbol doesn't start blinking in the first place ...

The only thing that comes to my mind is that for the WH2910 console (the Ventus W830 is a clone model) there seem to be contradictory instructions (as you already mentioned). In the WH290 manual it says you have to press the WIND and PRESSURE buttons for 5 seconds and in the W830 manual it says RAIN and ALARM  :roll:. Maybe trying WIND and PRESSURE would make the WLAN access point appear ....
I suggest you try both versions.

WH2910
"Power your console with the included AC adapter and ensure it is in
Wi-Fi configuration mode (Wi-Fi icon and M-B flashing). If it is not,
follow the procedure to put it in that mode (hold down WIND +
PRESSURE buttons for about 5 seconds)."

W830
"(1) If the WiFi icon is not flashing rapidly, (1) press and hold the
RAIN and ALARM buttons at the same time for four seconds. (2) The WiFi icon will
begin flashing rapidly, indicating the console is searching for your WiFi network."

Also you have to make sure that the console has BOTH batteries inserted AND is connectef to a plugged-in power supply. If running on batteries only, the WIFi will be switched off.

If neither approach makes the WLAN AP appear, the WiFi component of the console is likely to be defective.
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Ecowitt WS90(2)1.3.5/1.4.0, WS80(2)1.2.5, WS68, WS69, WH40, WH31, WH31-EP, WN30, WN34L, WN35, WH32, WH32-EP, WH32B, WH57 [Lightning], WH41 [PM2.5], WH51, WH45, WH55
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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2022, 03:55:00 AM »
Thanks (I he  :grin:) for the response, no offence was taken.  I do think the wifi is defective as you say and have now given up trying to get it working.  I wanted to use it as another feed of custom data on my network as I am running a number of Weather services/apps/etc.  I can easily get myself another GW1000 or later model to provide at a cheap price.

Console still works for received data so still keeps the Mrs happy :smile:
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Ecowitt BP1000 Battery Extension

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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2022, 04:25:19 AM »
Thanks (I he  :grin:) for the response, no offence was taken.  I do think the wifi is defective as you say and have now given up trying to get it working.  I wanted to use it as another feed of custom data on my network as I am running a number of Weather services/apps/etc.  I can easily get myself another GW1000 or later model to provide at a cheap price.
Console still works for received data so still keeps the Mrs happy :smile:
If you are running other apps etc. on a local server (e.g. RasPi), you may want to think of using FOSHKplugin, an information broker service which can send the data from one console to multiple recepients with or without converting formats etc.
The principle is visually explained in https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0 --> data flow
and in the sticky thread https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=39625.0

Independent of that it's always good to have a backup e.g. GW1100 or GW2000 (your wife may prefer the GW2000, look, wall mountable ....)
Ecowitt are still giving a 10% Xmas discount on shop.ecowitt.com
WS2350 1.6.7, GW1000(3) 1.7.7,WH2650 WiFi (2) 1.7.7 (test/backup), GW1100 2.3.1, GW2000(3) 3.1.1, HP2551 1.9.5,5.1.5;HP3500 1.7.2,WS3800 1.2.8, WN1910 1.2.3,WN1980 1.2.3;
Ecowitt WS90(2)1.3.5/1.4.0, WS80(2)1.2.5, WS68, WS69, WH40, WH31, WH31-EP, WN30, WN34L, WN35, WH32, WH32-EP, WH32B, WH57 [Lightning], WH41 [PM2.5], WH51, WH45, WH55
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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2022, 04:57:10 AM »
If you are running other apps etc. on a local server (e.g. RasPi), you may want to think of using FOSHKplugin, an information broker service which can send the data from one console to multiple recepients with or without converting formats etc.
The principle is visually explained in https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0 --> data flow
and in the sticky thread https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=39625.0

Independent of that it's always good to have a backup e.g. GW1100 or GW2000 (your wife may prefer the GW2000, look, wall mountable ....)
Ecowitt are still giving a 10% Xmas discount on shop.ecowitt.com

Many thanks for that ... I will take a look (something to play with over the holidays)
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Ecowitt HP2551-C
Ecowitt WH32B
Ecowitt WH31 x8
Ecowitt GW1000
Ecowitt BP1000 Battery Extension

Ventus W830 from a Dead weather sensor

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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2022, 06:03:38 PM »
i had this issue with a ws2900 (clone from oz weather), tried wsview and wsview+ with no success.  ](*,)
what i did to reconnect it to wifi was, download the ambient tool and used that!
success [tup]

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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2022, 07:21:46 PM »
I tried every App, even an older phone but to no avail, it just doesn't pair.

But as Gyvate noted, one console is enough to connect to the Internet, so this second one that doesn't connect will just be used to see the weather data in another room.

Thanks for all the help.

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Re: Ventus w830 Wifi Issue (possibly broke!)
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2022, 10:25:13 PM »
There is an old desktop app that I had to use to configure a gw1000.  Granted the problems I had are because the Wi-Fi on the gw1000 was beginning to die (and is now dead).  But they manifested as not being able to see the device’s Wi-Fi to pair with it and if I did see it, the configuration would never take or the app would time out.  The desktop app was the only one that got me a bit further. 

But it does sound like your Wi-Fi module is dying. 
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