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Weather Station Hardware => Weather Web Cams => Topic started by: ELDoradoWx on August 25, 2020, 06:53:54 PM

Title: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: ELDoradoWx on August 25, 2020, 06:53:54 PM
I was hoping someone could tell me what the status of Webcams on Weather Underground is? Did they kill the entire thing? I see that Wunderground no longer has their webcam listings at https://www.wunderground.com/webcams. Nor do they show my webcam on my personal weather page.

I've searched the forum and couldn't find anything concerning this.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: waiukuweather on August 25, 2020, 07:28:42 PM
my web cam still shows up and is current on my WU page
(I use the method where to provide a url to my web cam image)
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: ELDoradoWx on August 25, 2020, 07:37:56 PM
Thanks for taking the time to reply!

I have been using the php-cam-image-upload.php script for countless years. When I run it now, it says successful, but no webcam image shows up at Wunderground.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: gwwilk on August 26, 2020, 07:15:18 AM
My webcam is also gone.  I've used the URL method to display a patio weather view for many years, but suddenly a few months ago it lost contact and was replaced by a tiny pixelated static image from my street view camera.  All attempts to restore this webcam have been unsuccessful.

The URL works, https://www.gwwilkins.org/HikVisionWU.jpg, but WU always shows it as 'Offline'.  It's a ~44Kb 640x480 image.  Maybe they decided it's too big, but at least they could provide some guidance so we can meet their new standards, whatever they are...
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: galfert on August 26, 2020, 07:50:09 AM
It is definitely not too big. The size requirement limit is 150 kb. I would suggest changing the image filename to image.jpg
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: gwwilk on August 26, 2020, 08:06:03 AM
Thanks, galfert, but no joy.  The camera is still 'Offline' even with this image:
https://www.gwwilkins.org/image.jpg!
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: galfert on August 26, 2020, 08:31:27 AM
Well I wouldn't expect it to work so soon. Give it a few hours.

One other thing people have done is delete the camera device from your WU account and create new instance. This works sometimes.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: gwwilk on August 26, 2020, 08:34:24 AM
Well I wouldn't expect it to work so soon. Give it a few hours.

One other thing people have done is delete the camera device from your WU account and create new instance. This works sometimes.
OK, thanks for the help.  I did delete the device when editing the old one, #5, didn't work, and I'm now up to webcam #6 having deleted the previous 4 as well.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: PaulMy on August 26, 2020, 10:39:41 AM
It is a hit and miss...
My camera came back after I got the new Logitech uploading image.jpg a few days ago and using the URL method https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IONTARIO226 (https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IONTARIO226)
My Bloomsky using FTP however is not showing the videos (indicates offline in settings) https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IONTARIO1189 (https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IONTARIO1189)
Checking earlier historical dates, it is a hit and miss!  https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/webcam/PaulMy/1/2019-5-12 (https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/webcam/PaulMy/1/2019-5-12)


Enjoy,
Paul
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: ELDoradoWx on August 26, 2020, 05:01:18 PM
Again I messed around with this for quite awhile today.

It will not work using Weather Display: Control Panel --> Weather Undergroud --> Setup webcam upload.
It will not work with the URL method at https://www.wunderground.com/member/devices.
It will not work with the php-cam-image-upload.php script I have used for countless years.

I also deleted and recreated new webcam accounts. I made one new account for FTP and one account for URL upload. I could not get the php-cam-image-upload.php script to work at first (wrong name and or password), until I tried the "Upload Key" as the password in php-cam-image-upload.php. Then the FTP said: "uploaded success ... disconnected .... good bye", however I still did not get a new image or ANY image on Wunderground.

This is definitely Wunderground's fault! That's one way to cut down on your bandwidth, just don't allow it.  =D>

I also note that they replaced the webcam image calendar with a funky daily search tool for showing just one image at a time.

Perhaps IBM is doing more cannibalizing of Wunderground? They've already done wonders. I think someone like Ken might contact them and find out what is going on with their webcam service and why they will no longer accept any of the methods used for uploading webcam images to them.  ](*,)

Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: bnhf on September 07, 2020, 05:50:39 PM
I'm about to take the plunge on this myself, and other than the possibility it won't work at all, I'm curious if anyone has this working using a Ubiquiti UniFi G3 Flex?

So far I've figured out how to get an "anonymous" 1920x1080 still from the camera using a URL request.

Things I think I still need to do:

Resize and rename the image for compatibility with Weather Underground via Windows batch file and task scheduler
Setup an FTP server and update the camera image on a schedule compatible with WU

If anyone has something similar setup, I'd appreciate any tips on getting this going...
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: satbeginner on September 17, 2020, 03:17:46 AM
Hi all,

I lost my URL based image too.
I tried to setup a new camera, but no go.

My old camera was still shown as "On-Line" with the green dot, but the image was just not there.
The new camera stays "Off-Line" showing a red dot, but the URL-based image is there...

http://macisvenda.mooo.com/image/Cam1.jpg (http://macisvenda.mooo.com/image/Cam1.jpg)

https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IMURCIAA2 (https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/IMURCIAA2)

Although weird, my guess it is one of the Wunders of IBM....

Greetings from cloudy Spain,

Leo
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: DaculaWeather on November 05, 2020, 05:14:14 AM
My cams no longer showed up, so I deleted and re-added and now none of them work. WU doesn't care. I do a live stream to YouTube now and don't worry about WU. They obviously don't care.

It's dark outside so nothing to see but little flashing lights right now. This is a 50 mile view of the north Georgia mountains that goes from almost north to southeast (camera obviously doesn't cover the whole range).

https://youtu.be/q_K2p4k72IU
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: rsun on October 04, 2021, 09:02:37 PM
I deleted the delete my webcam and create it again to try to get it to work, it didn't, so I decided to open up another ticket, right before saving, it brought up this bulliten:

Webcam hosting service is discontinued effective October 21, 2021
Weather Underground will discontinue the webcam hosting service effective October 21, 2021 in order to better focus on the core products that make Weather Underground one of the best destinations for weather enthusiasts. Webcam data will be deleted from our servers on or after this date.
Weather Underground will discontinue the webcam hosting service effective October 21, 2021 in order to better focus on the core products that make Weather Underground one of the best destinations for weather enthusiasts. Webcam data will be deleted from our servers on or after this date.
 
We have spent significant time and energy to update our forecasts and Personal Weather Station (PWS) Network over the past several years. When we looked at taking a similar path forward for the webcams, it became clear that an upgrade to modern technologies would be incompatible with many of the cameras currently using our platform. We decided that the investment required to start the network over from scratch would not be viable. Our efforts will instead focus on the performance, stability, and vitality of our core offerings. Please rest assured that the PWS Network remains a core piece of Weather Underground.
 
Thank you for your support.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: davidmc36 on October 05, 2021, 12:15:26 AM
Hmmmpf. Since I found another solution for Rapid Fire I don't see much point in loading to there then.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: weatherman172 on October 08, 2021, 08:12:03 PM
Cracks me up.  How much modern technology do you need to process an FTP .jpg image?  Funny how they kill one of the best features this site ever had. 
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: gwwilk on October 08, 2021, 08:22:13 PM
This is the inevitable result when MBAís wrangle control of technology companies.  IBM no longer understands or respects its origins.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: davidmc36 on October 08, 2021, 08:29:38 PM
By and large i suspect the ones who are likely to set up a web cam are ones who are more into the technical aspect and actually have the best sited stations.

If they push them away the data quality will go down.

Talk about discharging a firearm into your phalanges.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: MNicastro on October 08, 2021, 09:13:47 PM
Well here you go, no more webcams . . . Disappointed, but no surprise, they didn't support them anyway
Weather Underground will discontinue the webcam hosting service effective October 21, 2021 in order to better focus on the core products that make Weather Underground one of the best destinations for weather enthusiasts. Webcam data will be deleted from our servers on or after this date.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: Weatheroger on October 08, 2021, 10:45:26 PM
Move them over to MESO West or Ecowitt.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: MNicastro on October 09, 2021, 08:09:12 AM
Thanks for the info! I'll check out both MESO West and Ecowitt
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: waterside on October 09, 2021, 09:01:29 AM
Move them over to MESO West or Ecowitt.

Does MESO West host webcams?

Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: Weatheroger on October 09, 2021, 12:32:43 PM
My mistake MESO does not have weathercam hosting. Web cams can be added to Windy.

Windy: Webcams - Kenai: Webcam de - USA (https://www.windy.com/-Webcams/United-States/Alaska/Kenai/Webcam-de-USA/webcams/1605270763?60.542,-152.869,8)
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: waiukuweather on October 09, 2021, 03:39:08 PM
oh wow , the death knell is nigh for WU web cams (that are still working)
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: chief-david on October 09, 2021, 06:48:12 PM
would WU come after anyone if  they used the maps and did not send the data
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: WeatherNC on October 10, 2021, 12:10:45 AM
Finally!  Iím almost happy itís over. WU has been so stupid about the whole webcam thing.  It was a great feature that we all loved.  How did they make it so difficult?  Itís just posting an image.  Says a lot about the crew behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: jimi on October 10, 2021, 06:56:50 AM
would WU come after anyone if  they used the maps and did not send the data
Don't follow what you mean ?
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: WeatherNC on October 10, 2021, 08:45:52 AM
Sorry, I thought I was adding to the string about WU dropping webcams.  Here is the post they put out the other day. ](*,)

Webcam hosting service is discontinued effective October 21, 2021
Weather Underground will discontinue the webcam hosting service effective October 21, 2021 in order to better focus on the core products that make Weather Underground one of the best destinations for weather enthusiasts. Webcam data will be deleted from our servers on or after this date.
Weather Underground will discontinue the webcam hosting service effective October 21, 2021 in order to better focus on the core products that make Weather Underground one of the best destinations for weather enthusiasts. Webcam data will be deleted from our servers on or after this date.
 
We have spent significant time and energy to update our forecasts and Personal Weather Station (PWS) Network over the past several years. When we looked at taking a similar path forward for the webcams, it became clear that an upgrade to modern technologies would be incompatible with many of the cameras currently using our platform. We decided that the investment required to start the network over from scratch would not be viable. Our efforts will instead focus on the performance, stability, and vitality of our core offerings. Please rest assured that the PWS Network remains a core piece of Weather Underground.
 
Thank you for your support.
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: box on October 10, 2021, 02:10:14 PM
Sorry, I thought I was adding to the string about WU dropping webcams.  Here is the post they put out the other day. ](*,)

Webcam hosting service is discontinued effective October 21, 2021
Weather Underground will discontinue the webcam hosting service effective October 21, 2021 in order to better focus on the core products that make Weather Underground one of the best destinations for weather enthusiasts. Webcam data will be deleted from our servers on or after this date.
Weather Underground will discontinue the webcam hosting service effective October 21, 2021 in order to better focus on the core products that make Weather Underground one of the best destinations for weather enthusiasts. Webcam data will be deleted from our servers on or after this date.
 
We have spent significant time and energy to update our forecasts and Personal Weather Station (PWS) Network over the past several years. When we looked at taking a similar path forward for the webcams, it became clear that an upgrade to modern technologies would be incompatible with many of the cameras currently using our platform. We decided that the investment required to start the network over from scratch would not be viable. Our efforts will instead focus on the performance, stability, and vitality of our core offerings. Please rest assured that the PWS Network remains a core piece of Weather Underground.
 
Thank you for your support.

What are these 'core products'?

Seems to me there is little difference between them and other PWS supporting websites

In fact Windy to my eyes is significantly better, definitely more stable
Title: Re: Webcams on Weather Underground
Post by: waiukuweather on October 10, 2021, 04:15:40 PM
if you have a webcam on your own server then surely they can have it where they have a link to that image
but I guess then they have no control and you could have a link to something that is not in the guidelines etc?