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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2023, 01:49:02 PM »
Above average temps until New years and no snow on the ground'

My grass is still green.



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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2023, 06:58:31 PM »
Fingers crossed, but looks like finally a good rain event for us Friday. Maybe an inch! Big news for us.

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2023, 07:15:01 PM »
Big difference this year, only a couple tenths of snow so far for December. Last year we'd already had multiple blizzards and around 20" of snow by this date.
I'm working for the NWS as a paid snow observer, and handling the Cooperative Observations. Probably scared the crap out of Old Man Winter. It does look like we are going to get a White Christmas. The Canadian model GEM has gone nuts on the last run. 
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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2023, 08:26:01 PM »
Nice to see you post again, sir! Paid? Do tell?

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2023, 08:54:09 PM »
great pic here




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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2023, 10:56:25 PM »
Nice to see you post again, sir! Paid? Do tell?

Do observations every 6 hours while it's snowing and once a day 0600 with snow on the ground. Valentine had a NWS Office dating back to the late 1880s. They closed the smaller airport Offices around the country to save money back in the 1990s, but wanted to keep snow observations going as if they were still here. Since I'm handling the snow decided to move the Coop here also which was at a poor location downtown.
You can see the Nimbus temp, for anyone wanting to compare, to the Davis aspirated setup I run. I have it online under the cameras tab.
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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2023, 06:35:24 PM »
What a phenomenal soaker for most of the SW. I just hit one inch and the RR hasn't been any higher than 1/3" per hour. Nice convection out west that may pile on even more. Good stuff!

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2023, 03:28:47 PM »
rain. But that is OK.

good chance of rain through Thursday. Possibly record warmth Sunday the 24th

But-the ground is not frozen, we are still coming back from a drought, water should soak in, we may go into the new year without snow on the ground, which will make for a short winter.

The only bad thing, without extended cold, the Japanese beetle will be worse Summer of 2024.



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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2023, 07:48:06 PM »
We had the upper 40's here today in Oconomowoc Wis.. 53 tomorrow and 52 Christmas Day with up to 1/2" rain.

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #34 on: December 24, 2023, 08:29:30 AM »
Rain and possibly some thunderstorms for Xmas day.
Woohoo!

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2023, 08:58:09 AM »
We've got an inch now. 8-15" expected before it's over, with a "Blizzard Warning" going into effect tonight at Mid-Night. Wind gust as high as 55 mph. Christmas day it's expected to really ramp up, maybe 2" per hour rate at times. Welcome to Valentine  :grin: for all the Christmas visitors. Won't be surprised to see highways closed down with that much wind.

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2023, 10:20:39 AM »
I'm not wishing for a White Christmas, but it looks like I'm going to get one anyway. This is a monster storm that is now predicted. Go to the North Platte WFO to see what the storm could bring Randy.

Merry Christmas!  :shock:
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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #37 on: December 24, 2023, 10:31:16 AM »
Haven't seen a  white Christmas since 85.
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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #38 on: December 24, 2023, 11:10:01 AM »
I'm not wishing for a White Christmas, but it looks like I'm going to get one anyway. This is a monster storm that is now predicted. Go to the North Platte WFO to see what the storm could bring Randy.

Merry Christmas!  :shock:

I'm with you on the snow after last winter, the 67" kind of tamed my desire.  :-(  It's been nice until now, as you know.
I came out of retirement so in contact with the NWS 4x daily, the official snow measurer for Valentine now.  It is a monster storm, models had a difficult time with the split flow northern and southern stream and were all over the place until late yesterday.  Normally we don't get this kind of moisture wrapped up in a December storm. The El Niņo has come into play for sure.

 Merry Christmas to you and all.

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #39 on: December 24, 2023, 06:35:37 PM »
So far 0.86" of rain since early this morning.  The wind last night and prior to sunrise from the southeast was a bit of surprise.  It's certainly muddy around here.

The Blizzard warning isn't too far northwest of here and yet we're just in a Winter Weather Advisory--so far.  The Beatrice, NE area has been downgraded to an advisory as well from a watch.  It looks like this thing is just going to sit over central Nebraska until Wednesday.

Merry Christmas, eh?   :-)

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #40 on: December 25, 2023, 04:16:40 PM »
I have had over an inch of rain the last two days, and now it is 53 outside.

Crazy.

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #41 on: December 25, 2023, 06:50:44 PM »
That, and the Chiefs plays like ____ today
Ummmmm...too much Tay Tay.  :roll:

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #42 on: December 25, 2023, 06:56:21 PM »
could be....we just dont have it this year
Injuries have been an issue too



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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #43 on: December 25, 2023, 07:07:06 PM »
The Twin Cities on Monday recorded a record high of 54 degrees for Christmas Day, topping the former record high of 51 set in 1922, according to the National Weather Service office in Chanhassen.



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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #44 on: December 25, 2023, 07:08:56 PM »
As soon as you give up your gas stove, furnace, and ceiling fan, this will all be just a bad dream.

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #45 on: December 25, 2023, 08:14:35 PM »
That, and the Chiefs plays like ____ today
Ummmmm...too much Tay Tay.  :roll:

The Kansas City Possums are back!  They play dead at home and get killed on the road!

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #46 on: December 26, 2023, 08:58:11 AM »
My sump pump just ran.

1.84 inches if rain this month.

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #47 on: December 27, 2023, 06:44:39 AM »
Sunday afternoon Lincoln, NE TV stations were showing about half of the state of Nebraska as being under a blizzard or winter storm warning through at least late Tuesday into early Wednesday.  By Monday afternoon nearly all of those warnings were cancelled.

Topeka NWS had this area of Kansas still under a winter weather advisory until mid day Tuesday while Omaha NWS had no such advisory in place for the Beatrice, NE area.  Admittedly, the heavy snow was seen along US Highway 24 from around Manhattan to near Topeka, KS by that time.  In fact, a "snow squall warning" was issued for the St. Marys, KS area just after lunch time.

This storm did what so many do on the plains by dissipating in one area area and forming stronger than predicted elsewhere.  Does the NWS depend too much on models that simply cannot predict the unpredictability of winter storms in the central plains?  Any prediction concerning such storms more than six hours in advance seems to be pure guess work.  I don't have an answer for NWS and I get it that they're caught between providing adequate advance notice of possible severe winter weather and overstating the severity of any given storm system to the point that people will ignore the forecasts, watches and warnings.  NWS seems to err on the side of overstatement.

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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #48 on: December 27, 2023, 09:10:29 AM »
Up here in Valentine so far only 6". So a big underperformance for us, which is okay with me. Still have deep drifts with the blizzard conditions we had. Here's in front of my garage door this morning. Thank goodness for Ariens snowblowers.
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Re: Fall/Winter 2023-24
« Reply #49 on: December 27, 2023, 10:33:21 AM »
crazy occlusion



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