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Title: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: jwreynoldson on August 21, 2019, 02:54:47 AM
It seems that at the moment every station I select to view comes up with multiple wind flags on the map display (excepts some stations that report at long intervals, it seems)

I don't know whether its' a feature (showing recent winds so you can see the range of readings) or a bug!

update: I see this is not just me (reported on another thread).

John R.
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Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: jwreynoldson on August 21, 2019, 05:17:25 AM
If it is a new feature, can I suggest that the historical arrows be grey, leaving the most recent black?  You could even have them a lighter grey the older the reading is.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: galfert on August 21, 2019, 08:03:03 AM
It can't be a new feature because it overlaps the temperature also making the temperature unreadable.

I'm tacking this as a bug:
https://trello.com/c/3CDWPok6
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: rormeister on August 21, 2019, 09:58:27 AM
This new "feature" has been going on for a few days. As noted by @jwreynoldson, grey flags indicating trend (maybe past hour) would be cool, with solid (bold) black for current direction/speed. Limit temp to current and they might have something. I just wish that with crowded station areas, the "selected station" float to the top to be the prominent icon.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: awsum140 on August 21, 2019, 12:59:18 PM
I'd say get out the RAID!
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: rormeister on August 21, 2019, 01:08:15 PM
I'd say get out the RAID!
Or...take down our vanes and use them as swatters  :lol:
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: antstrafer on August 21, 2019, 02:39:39 PM
You have heard of a "wind rose"  ?   well this is a wind tarantula   
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: KC9Q on August 25, 2019, 07:41:11 PM
I was discussing this with others in my area today.  It seems to be a feature/bug that started with the IBM Cloud system that WX Underground went to.   :-)
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: awsum140 on August 27, 2019, 12:55:12 PM
Another new "feature" just popped up.  I just shut down my browser, Opera, and reopened it.  Now the circle is missing, but multiple wind flags are still there for my station.  Temperatures seem to be in a smaller font as well.  Will the "improvements" ever stop?

Update - Apparently it is related to a setting I changed in Opera.  I disabled "use hardware acceleration" trying to fix a different problem with another web page.  That, apparently, has removed some of the graphics from WU which is a little weird.  It works fin in MS Sludge though.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: galfert on August 27, 2019, 08:38:37 PM
Well I now see the multiple wind vane spider is gone!!!

I'll wait and see 24 to 48 hours to be sure and see what others report to be certain.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: galfert on August 27, 2019, 08:41:01 PM
Yep spoke too soon. I think the only reason the spider is gone is because there is no data. Station is not showing that it is reporting. Shows "Online (Updated 2 hours ago)"

More lost data  #-o

....now we also get to hear about how other people have lost their Gold Star. SMH.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: galfert on August 27, 2019, 08:55:29 PM
Okay starting to see Current Conditions Rapidfire updating every few seconds as my station normally would. But still says Online (Updated 3 hours ago).  And yes the spider is back!  ](*,)

Still no data under summary and no graphs and no chart data tables.

Well at least I hope this indicates that they are working on fixing something.

Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: Mirwin275 on August 27, 2019, 09:39:00 PM
Okay starting to see Current Conditions Rapidfire updating every few seconds as my station normally would. But still says Online (Updated 3 hours ago).  And yes the spider is back!  ](*,)

Still no data under summary and no graphs and no chart data tables.

Well at least I hope this indicates that they are working on fixing something.

Yup, seeing the same thing for me here as you described with it saying it's online and updated 4 hours ago though and the flags are still there too. I did notice the map temps are current, but not where the rapid fire area is at the top, which is where it reflects the data from 4 hours ago.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: rormeister on August 27, 2019, 10:29:48 PM
Sadly, my confidence in the WUFixers is pretty much in the tank. I just checked my dashboard and while the flags are spinning a web of deceit, the temp in the center circle is correct. But that is where it ends. Check out this screen cap (Temps are TOTALLY wrong and I’m missing all the Data/Graph details:
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: galfert on August 27, 2019, 11:47:22 PM
Oh how I wish just one ex-WU employee would come in here and fill us in on what the IBM circus is like.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: galfert on August 28, 2019, 06:11:01 AM
Update from Victoria Gardner (2 hours ago)....

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Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

There is a hardware issue that is being worked on.  Conditions and recent history should be working now; longer term history will take a bit longer to cycle up. 

--Victoria
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: rormeister on August 28, 2019, 09:40:55 AM
Update from Victoria Gardner (2 hours ago)....

Quote

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

There is a hardware issue that is being worked on.  Conditions and recent history should be working now; longer term history will take a bit longer to cycle up. 

--Victoria

Oh my dear Victoria, this is Sooooo Far beyond a hardware issue. If WU is how IBM operates their subsidiaries, and reflects the quality and reliability of their Cloud service, I'm running for the hills.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: WSWeather on August 29, 2019, 06:10:28 PM
Update from Victoria Gardner (2 hours ago)....

Quote

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

There is a hardware issue that is being worked on.  Conditions and recent history should be working now; longer term history will take a bit longer to cycle up. 

--Victoria

I wonder how long a "a bit longer" is in IBM-speak.  I still am missing 17 of 31 days of July in my historical data and I suspect it will continue to be missing going forward.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: rormeister on August 29, 2019, 08:53:27 PM
I.B.M.  AKA “Inadequate, But Marketable”

Update from Victoria Gardner (2 hours ago)....

Quote

Victoria Gardner, Official Rep

There is a hardware issue that is being worked on.  Conditions and recent history should be working now; longer term history will take a bit longer to cycle up. 

--Victoria

I wonder how long a "a bit longer" is in IBM-speak.  I still am missing 17 of 31 days of July in my historical data and I suspect it will continue to be missing going forward.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: galfert on August 30, 2019, 02:41:18 PM
I just can not understand how long this issue with the multiple wind flags has gone on for. I mean seriously what is going on? It is not only obvious that WU does not have a development platform environment as it seems that they are pushing new code out to their live operation. Even if we forgive the lack of a test development environment, when they push out new code someone has to be watching for the outcome! If you pushed out this new code and it created this multiple flags issue, well then is it not obvious that it is time to roll back those changes and go back to the drawing board? Why then has this persisted for so long? I just don't get it. SMH.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: awsum140 on August 30, 2019, 04:06:36 PM
I don't know.  I'm so used to having a multi-legged bubble on screen I'd think something was wrong if it became a one armed bandit again.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: konz on August 31, 2019, 12:29:23 AM
I just can not understand how long this issue with the multiple wind flags has gone on for. I mean seriously what is going on? It is not only obvious that WU does not have a development platform environment as it seems that they are pushing new code out to their live operation. Even if we forgive the lack of a test development environment, when they push out new code someone has to be watching for the outcome! If you pushed out this new code and it created this multiple flags issue, well then is it not obvious that it is time to roll back those changes and go back to the drawing board? Why then has this persisted for so long? I just don't get it. SMH.

Yyyyep.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: WSWeather on August 31, 2019, 02:54:16 AM
I just can not understand how long this issue with the multiple wind flags has gone on for. I mean seriously what is going on? It is not only obvious that WU does not have a development platform environment as it seems that they are pushing new code out to their live operation. Even if we forgive the lack of a test development environment, when they push out new code someone has to be watching for the outcome! If you pushed out this new code and it created this multiple flags issue, well then is it not obvious that it is time to roll back those changes and go back to the drawing board? Why then has this persisted for so long? I just don't get it. SMH.

I'm pretty sure whatever offshore code boiler room they outsourced this to is being paid by the line not by the result.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: awsum140 on August 31, 2019, 01:36:04 PM
I kind of like how it looks at the moment, an "X"wing fighter, head on.  May the Force, or is that "the Schwartz", be with WU.  I pretty sure Brutus is now Dark Helmet.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: jwreynoldson on September 08, 2019, 09:34:41 PM
There's been a small change recently in the behaviour of this (bug?).  If you click the - (zoom out) button on the map, you get only one flag on the resulting display.  Before, it stayed a tarantula.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: galfert on September 08, 2019, 11:52:49 PM
There's been a small change recently in the behaviour of this (bug?).  If you click the - (zoom out) button on the map, you get only one flag on the resulting display.  Before, it stayed a tarantula.

huh! Interesting. Yep you are right.

This is what WU developers look like:

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Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: rormeister on September 09, 2019, 08:36:30 PM
This is what WU developers look like:

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LOL...probably the only book they’ve read.  :lol:  But my tests show that, while I can’t confirm the directional pointers, my temp is still an overlay of multiple data points. Clearly, the WUFixers have Left The Building.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: WSWeather on September 10, 2019, 10:40:58 AM
There's been a small change recently in the behaviour of this (bug?).  If you click the - (zoom out) button on the map, you get only one flag on the resulting display.  Before, it stayed a tarantula.
Mine is still buggy (heh) when zoomed in.  It is also overwriting the temp instead of clearing it beforehand.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: Big Sky Weather on September 24, 2019, 06:01:55 PM
I think WU is getting their programmers/coders from the Fiverr website. You get what you pay for!
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: awsum140 on September 24, 2019, 06:55:11 PM
More likely from under an underpass along the freeway.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: Mabcmb on September 27, 2019, 03:52:29 PM
Over a month now and this problem still hasn't been fixed  ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

It seems that at the moment every station I select to view comes up with multiple wind flags on the map display (excepts some stations that report at long intervals, it seems)

I don't know whether its' a feature (showing recent winds so you can see the range of readings) or a bug!

update: I see this is not just me (reported on another thread).

John R.
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Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: galfert on September 27, 2019, 04:30:22 PM
Fixing decimals took over 3 months.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: rormeister on September 27, 2019, 08:19:59 PM
I suspect, based on the lack of activity, that the college kid they have working on it has gone back to school for Fall quarter.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: awsum140 on October 12, 2019, 10:53:00 AM
You know what's really strange about this problem, at least to me?  It seems to cleanly overwrite the readings from all the stations around me.  Mine, on the other hand, seems to have data overlaid for five or six updates and the wind direction is always indicating something other than what shows everywhere else on the dashboard.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: joegr on October 14, 2019, 10:55:07 AM
You know what's really strange about this problem, at least to me?  It seems to cleanly overwrite the readings from all the stations around me.  Mine, on the other hand, seems to have data overlaid for five or six updates and the wind direction is always indicating something other than what shows everywhere else on the dashboard.

Click on one of those nearby stations.  It will now show multiple flags and temperatures, and your station will now be cleanly overwritten. 
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: WSWeather on October 14, 2019, 12:47:42 PM
Click on one of those nearby stations.  It will now show multiple flags and temperatures, and your station will now be cleanly overwritten.

Yeah, it appears that the multiple page loads required to display this hot mess also loads the selected PWS data several times and not from the same data set.  I have also noticed what (finally) is displayed in the dashboard as temp and wind direction doesn't match what is shown on the map.

I've pretty much given up.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: galfert on November 21, 2019, 11:38:39 AM
This issue of multiple wind vanes on the map appears to finally be fixed with today's WU website changes.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: joegr on November 21, 2019, 12:25:33 PM
I wonder what worse bug will replace it...
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: rormeister on November 21, 2019, 12:55:09 PM
I wonder what worse bug will replace it...

May not be worse, but definitely different.... When my dashboard comes up, my station detail is missing from the bulls-eye. Close but no cigar.
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Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: OldAlaskaGuy on November 23, 2019, 04:14:36 PM
I have had this occasionally in the past. Usually a reboot of your station and it returns usually in about an hour.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: jwreynoldson on January 29, 2020, 04:09:51 PM
This issue of multiple wind vanes on the map appears to finally be fixed with today's WU website changes.

The bug appears to have resurfaced....
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: galfert on January 29, 2020, 10:37:28 PM
This issue of multiple wind vanes on the map appears to finally be fixed with today's WU website changes.

The bug appears to have resurfaced....

Yup 
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: DoctorKnow on January 30, 2020, 08:32:32 PM
I just wish they would scrap this new design and get back to the old google map.
Title: Re: Multiple wind flags: new feature or new bug?
Post by: rormeister on January 30, 2020, 10:52:25 PM
Just sayin’, but having over 40 years in IT, I have never in my life seen anything as pathetic as the “new improved” WonderGround process. I can only guess that someone pushed a ‘new’ update and pulled up a version that was 6 months old. I feel so bad for all the folks who made Wunderground what is ‘was’.