Topic: LDS01 and Hub

[PaulMy]

Is the GW2000 or GW1200 the correct device for the LDS01?

Enjoy,
Paul

[Gyvate]

I think that all IoT enabled consoles will support 4 LDS01 sensors. Starting with the GW2000 and GW3000 and the next firmware upgrade (probably 3.1.7 for the GW2000 and 1.0.1 for the GW3000). And then rolled out to the others.
As for the IoT enabled consoles - see WiKi IoT device section. Link --> signature or in the MUST READ thread.
Or https://meshka.eu/Ecowitt/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start#b_console_-_sensor_-_maximum_number_and_display_tables

[PaulMy]

Thanks, I have it ordered.

Pre-sale: Ecowitt LDS01 Laser Distance Sensor, Laser Rangefinder for Water Tank Levels and Snow Depth with LCD Screen for Real-Time Monitoring

Enjoy,
Paul

[MonsterDog6]

Total snow depth only? And how will the installation be done? I will perhaps wait for feedback from some here to see, thank you

[Gyvate]

how the installation will be done ...
see examples in the WiKi

https://meshka.eu/Ecowitt/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=start#wh54_wn54_-_lds01

[PaulMy]

Thanks Gyvate,

I have received:

Dear,

Thank you for your recent purchase of our pre-sale product, the LDS01 Laser Distance Sensor! We would like to remind you that the product will be shipped once the pre-sale period ends on (expected by the end of December).

Please note that if your order includes any other products, those items will be shipped first.

The GW2000 gas shipped.

I am looking forward to see how it will perform and compare to my manual reading and recording.

Enjoy,
Paul

[mcrossley]

Still no information on the data format in live data http or Ecowitt upload protocol yet?

[Gyvate]

Still no information on the data format in live data http or Ecowitt upload protocol yet?

digging ...

[MonsterDog6]

I have it ordered.

while waiting for delivery, I'm trying to make myself an installation support

[olicat]

Hi!

Is the GW2000 or GW1200 the correct device for the LDS01?

With today's announcement in the Ecowitt manufacturer forum, the LDS01 should soon be supported by (at least) these devices:

GW1100, GW1200, the GW2000, the WS6210, the GW3000 and the HP2550.

However, I personally also expect future support from the IoT-compatible WS3xx0 and WN1980 consoles - although no corresponding announcement has yet been made (or I may have missed it).

add:
Ecowitt has confirmed that the WS3xx0 and WN1980 consoles will also receive LDS01 support.
This is the preliminary complete list of consoles with planned LDS01 support:

GW1100, GW1200, GW2000, GW3000, WS6210 and the HP2550, WS3xx0, WN1980C (and WN182x since it shares the same firmware)

Oliver

[mahi]

I don't mean to hijack the topic, but would a laser sensor be more resistant against condensation than ultrasonic sensors? Because lasers need line-of-sight, I assume they are affected by condensation as well, but I was wondering if someone here has experience with it.

I'm having issues with an ultrasonic level sensor (Proteus EcoMeter S Plus) in an underground rain water tank. Especially during this time of the year there's a lot of condensation in the tank (100% humidity) and the readings go all over the place until I wipe the sensor dry (there are water droplets on it). If I just wipe the sensor dry it lasts a few days before the problem returns. If I apply a small coat of WD40 or silicone spray after drying it lasts a bit longer, maybe weeks, but the problem returns no matter what.

I was hoping for a more permanent solution. Industrial ultrasonic level sensors sometimes have a built-in heating element. I've been thinking of building a small heater for the ultrasonic sensor, but I'd rather not break up my driveway to run electricity to it...

[Dador]

Let me know, guys, how this new sensor works out. I admit that it looks great if we want to automatically measure the height of snow cover or, for example, the water level in a nearby river. I am interested in purchasing it, but I will hold off and wait for your opinions.

[PaulMy]

I am interested in purchasing it, but I will hold off and wait for your opinions.

It may be a while before shipping, and then delivery.

Dear,

Thank you for your recent purchase of our pre-sale product, the LDS01 Laser Distance Sensor! We would like to remind you that the product will be shipped once the pre-sale period ends on (expected by the end of December).

Please note that if your order includes any other products, those items will be shipped first.

The GW2000 is shipped.

In the meantime we have beta CMX and CUtils ready...

Code: [Select]

Automated readings
Disabled
Adds an automated reading to the database from the above sensor at the snow reading time. This only creates the record if a manual record has not already been created.
https://www.komokaweather.com/cumulusmx4wll/historic.htm#snow
https://www.komokaweather.com/cumulusmx4wll/index.html?report=diary.txt&dropdown=DiaryReport

Enjoy,
Paul

[Dador]

@PaulMy

If you have the opportunity and desire, describe your experience with the sensor when measuring snow cover (I assume that's why you bought it). I am curious whether there will be any measurement problems when there is heavy snowfall and the sensor will show nonsense because it will measure, for example, a snowflake and not the snow cover.

[PaulMy]

Will do.  Not sure yet where or how to mount it and if I will be using for total snow depth or 24-hour snowfall.  I do manual snow fall and depth measuring for CoCoRaHS so will have some comparison for a while.

Enjoy,
Paul

[Rocketman]

I guess we could use this for realtime tide height -  I live next to a sandy bay which is tidal , just need to figure out how I would mount this ?

[Gyvate]

I guess we could use this for realtime tide height -  I live next to a sandy bay which is tidal , just need to figure out how I would mount this ?

as long as the tidal range is not greater than 4 m

[Rover1822]

I guess we could use this for realtime tide height -  I live next to a sandy bay which is tidal , just need to figure out how I would mount this ?

as long as the tidal range is not greater than 4 m

Hmm, I live in area in the US where that may be possible, during  hurricane, which well we get. But I get it LOL, at that point , I'm not here , and the last thing I would be worried about is a sensor.  I'm looking for higher ground with my greyhound in tow.

[Rocketman]

I'm in the idea location with a bay about 400 metres wide and the channel about 250 metres with a depth of approx 4 metres
Not sure the sensor will go that far ?

[mcrossley]

It's the range of the tide from springs low to high that must be less than 4 m.

Measuring tidal hights means you normally do it in a tube with a small entrance at the bottom to damp out waves. You need a flat surface to get consistent readings, and you don't want to be measuring waves going up and down! The LDS seems to have a divergent beam, which *may* control how wide the pipe needs to be to avoid readings from the sides?

[broadstairs]

No good for the Severn Estuary then with an average tidal range of 15m   

Stuart

[Rocketman]

This is just a small bay in the Manukau Harbour ( tidal height is approx 4 metres - I'll need to re-check )
Only thing is the range of the sensor - I'm guessing 100 metres max
Since I don't have one - Anybody know better ?
Ecowitt should do a repeater for the sensors ( 433, 868 , 915 MHz  )

[Gyvate]

Ecowitt should do a repeater for the sensors ( 433, 868 , 915 MHz  )

a repeater is not just a signal amplifier - it much more involved. Simple signal amplifiers you can get in the market.
Have you seen the price for such a piece with Davis ? That's not exaggerated.
The signal has to be received, demodulated, the payload extracted, newly modulated and transmitted.
This doesn't come for free - and is in my opinion not really a business case for the few Rocketmen who would like to have such a piece. It's not mass product. Needs design, prototyping, test, parts purchase, assembly etc.
All these costs have to come back before even one can think of profit what a company is set up for. I don't see much or rather negative ROI here.

You always have two options.
1. increase the transmission intensity of the sender (which is here limited by regulations)
2. increase the reception sensitivity of the receiver
(2.5) and you can put an amplifying/relaying device in between

the new GW3000 gateway will allow for option 2
a) has an outside moveable antenna
b) one can attach one's own external antenna and improve directional gain and noise elimination

EDIT: removed typos

[mcrossley]

You always have two options.
1. increase the transmission intensity of the sender (which is here limited by regulations)
2. increase the reception sensitivity of the receiver
(2.5) and you can put an amplifying/relaying device in between

Option 3 is build one!

The radio protocols are known already. I built a "relay" for my Davis kit. Not for extending range (though it could be used for that), but to combine data from two transmitters and rebroadcast it as if coming from (a third) one. The hardware isn't too expensive a simple Arduino and a HopeRF RFM69 radio module - see: https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=21235.0

[Rocketman]

Manukau harbour bay completely drys out - do I have to mount equipment etc ...in the channel ?