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Offline BadCloudEffect

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Subject line states problem. Did battery change in WH32b. Data is shown on WH32b, but no where else. Also see xmit icon on WH32b flash periodically which says it is xmiting. Did WS-2000 firmware upgrade to ver. 1.7.6; no help.

Cannot seem to find answer by searching this forum

System been in operation since 11/2018.

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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2022, 06:04:08 PM »
I don't have a WS-2000 but I found the following looking around on Ambient Weather's site:

Page 58 of the manual also shows the process to re-register the indoor sensor:
https://ambientweather.com/mwdownloads/download/link/id/1113

How To Re-Register A Sensor To The WS-2000 And WS-5000 Consoles
https://ambientweather.com/faqs/question/view/id/1486/

Other FAQs for the WS-2000 can be found here:
https://ambientweather.com/amws2000.html#faq.tab

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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2022, 08:52:00 PM »
BoDuke,

Your link below fixed the problem. Thanks very much.

I was not aware of this process, probably because my firmware was at 1.5.8 since I felt I did not need the updates to add the newer sensors like PM, soil moisture, when the truck was last washed, how much chocolate ice cream is in the basement freezer, etc.

When I used the process quoted below, the sensor came alive after I did the Disable, so obviously the display then reacquired the WH32b and gave it a new ID.

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How To Re-Register A Sensor To The WS-2000 And WS-5000 Consoles
https://ambientweather.com/faqs/question/view/id/1486/

I tried the reset listed on pg 58 of the version of the manual you quoted, which I knew about; that did not work. I did search Ambient Weather's web site and missed the 2nd item you referenced .

Thanks again.

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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2022, 05:28:49 AM »
You will find all information regarding registering of sensor covered in the 2.3 the SensorsID submenu section of our central MUST READ post / thread (I wonder why we marked it that way  8-))

https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0

Reading that post fully might be quite enlightening.
We have put a lot of effort to compile important information regarding the Fine Offset clone = Ecowitt / Ambient etc. ecosystem which you otherwise do not find at all or is difficult to find in one spot.

Virtually everything what applies to the original HP2551 console also applies to the Ambient WS-2000 and WS-5000 consoles as the Ambient modified firmware "only" covers their (Ambient) weather web site posting and the forced reception limitation to Ambient brand sensors.
Everything else is the same. There is even no technical difference between a WS-2000 and a WS-5000 console. Just Ambient marketing and logistics.
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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2022, 08:00:52 AM »
Tough search.

I knew I had answered this same question some time ago - couldn't find my own post!

Searched the forum for "battery" and "battery change"...no luck. Found my post under "re-register". However, for a new user, as the case here, making the link from "battery change" to "re-register"  or "register" is not all that intuitive - nor was the Ambient manual. It tells you to check the channel but does not elaborate further.

For the sake of posterity, if you change the battery or batteries in any sensor and the sensor does not display its reading then you should attempt to re-register the sensor.

Good for a footnote somewhere...

Hopefully this thread will be searchable.

search term tags : WS2000 WS-2000 missing blank reading
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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2022, 12:50:47 PM »
gszlag,

Good thoughts. There was no 'connect in my head'  between 'battery change' and 're-register' while I was searching. Ambient Weather's website, and the WS-2000 manual ( my paper version @ 1.0 and the version 2.15 I found online) did not help too much either.

It would very helpful if Ambient Weather would insert words such as "If after replacing batteries your sensor fails to display its data on the display console, you may need to re-register the sensor. See Section w.x.y.z on page xx of the User Manual." Obvious place for this would be the first time the WH32b or one of the other sensors is mentioned.

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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2022, 03:16:07 AM »
Tough search.

I knew I had answered this same question some time ago - couldn't find my post!

Searched the forum for "battery" and "battery change"...no luck. Found my post under "re-register". However, for a new user, as the case here, making the link from "battery change" to "re-register"  or "register" is not all that intuitive - nor was the Ambient manual. It tells you to check the channel but does not elaborate further.

For the sake of posterity, if you change the battery or batteries in any sensor and the sensor does not display its reading then you should attempt to re-register the sensor.

Good for a footnote somewhere...

Hopefully this thread will be searchable.
Have a look at https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0
end of section 2 (HP2551 console)  :-)
green highlighted text at the end of subsection 2.3 the SensorsID submenu / (re-) registering sensors
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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2022, 08:32:28 AM »
Fantastic!. Now that is definitely a highlighted footnote - hard to miss :)
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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2022, 09:06:25 AM »
Fantastic!. Now that is definitely a highlighted footnote - hard to miss :)
provided one reads the thread/post  :roll:
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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2022, 07:49:08 PM »
Related Question: Does the screen on WH32B Sensor indicate when the battery is low?
This afternoon, the WS-2000 display's information for the remote WH32B sensor began blinking about 5 seconds on, then 5 seconds off. I checked the WH32B and it seemed fine, displaying temp and RH about 5 seconds, then inHg for about 5 seconds. I brought the remote sensor in from the office and placed it in close proximity with the WS-2000; no change in the WS-2000 display, blinking about 5 seconds on, then 5 seconds off. I unplugged the WS-2000 and removed the batteries in the WH32B, wait, and then plugged the WS-2000 back to the wall socket, and reinserted the batteries into the WH32B. Now the WS-2000 shows no data from the WH32B. Does the screen on WH32B Sensor indicate when the battery is low?

Many thanks to BoDuke! Re-registering the indoor sensor seemed to get things settled, though I'm still curious if the WH32B gives any indication when its batteries need to be replaced.

Thank you for your help.

Kind regards,

Kelly

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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2022, 03:44:06 AM »
Related Question: Does the screen on WH32B Sensor indicate when the battery is low?
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Now the WS-2000 shows no data from the WH32B. Does the screen on WH32B Sensor indicate when the battery is low?

Many thanks to BoDuke! Re-registering the indoor sensor seemed to get things settled, though I'm still curious if the WH32B gives any indication when its batteries need to be replaced.

Thank you for your help.

Kind regards,

Kelly
1. you are mistaken - did you read your WS-2000 manual ? Seems like not.
Did you read our central post https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=40730.0 ? It seems like not as well.
There, in section 2, the HP2551 console (=WS-2000/5000 console) is described in detail - especially what shows on the screen.

In the WS-2000 manual on page 17 Figure 23 (https://ambientweather.com/mwdownloads/download/link/id/1113) it shows a low-battery-symbol next (left) to each sensor's reception quality signal.

2. During normal operation this symbol (as a few others do) is invisible. It only shows when needed. This symbol will show up (in red usually) when your battery is low, and there is one for each sensor.
For the location of your WH32B reception symbol, see our picture in the main thread, even though it's also shown on black and white Ambient picture.
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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2022, 05:04:57 AM »
No, I can't see any 'low bat' indication in the wh31/wh32 display

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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2022, 05:10:18 AM »
No, I can't see any 'low bat' indication in the wh31/wh32 display
on the sensor display itself there's probably none - but on the console display there is
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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2022, 08:01:26 AM »
No, I can't see any 'low bat' indication in the wh31/wh32 display
on the sensor display itself there's probably none - but on the console display there is
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Thank you for answering the question.

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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2022, 08:42:15 AM »
No, I can't see any 'low bat' indication in the wh31/wh32 display
on the sensor display itself there's probably none - but on the console display there is
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Yeah, no, even when the batteries were completely removed and after 30 minutes of waiting, the WS-2000 display (which was purchased in December of 2018) never did show a battery symbol for the WH32B. However, its wireless signal indicator did continue to diminish to 0 bars while the antenna-triangle-like part of the icon remained. Installing the batteries did require completing the re-registering as BoDuke described.



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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2022, 08:50:56 AM »
No, I can't see any 'low bat' indication in the wh31/wh32 display
on the sensor display itself there's probably none - but on the console display there is
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Yeah, no, even when the batteries were completely removed and after 30 minutes of waiting, the WS-2000 display (which was purchased in December of 2018) never did show a battery symbol for the WH32B. However, its wireless signal indicator did continue to diminish to 0 bars while the antenna-triangle-like part of the icon remained. Installing the batteries did require completing the re-registering as BoDuke described.


I replaced my batteries because the LCD display of the WH32B was getting pretty dim...and encountered the "no data displayed on the console" when the batteries were changed.
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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2022, 09:01:07 AM »
No, I can't see any 'low bat' indication in the wh31/wh32 display
on the sensor display itself there's probably none - but on the console display there is
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Yeah, no, even when the batteries were completely removed and after 30 minutes of waiting, the WS-2000 display (which was purchased in December of 2018) never did show a battery symbol for the WH32B. However, its wireless signal indicator did continue to diminish to 0 bars while the antenna-triangle-like part of the icon remained. Installing the batteries did require completing the re-registering as BoDuke described.


that is a to-be-expected behavior 8-) - no batteries in the sensor => no signal can be sent => also the information that the battery is low cannot be sent  :lol: \:D/ - the symbol is a LOW battery indicator and not a NO battery indicator.
(When you remove your car battery, the battery symbol isn't shown either on the car's dashboard)

That you (may) have to re-register your sensor after a battery exchange is mentioned (in bold green letters) in our central post, console section (2.)

We have marked that post "MUST READ", because after having gone through it completely, 97-99% of your (and people's) usual / common issues with the FOSHK clone hardware are described there with a solution. But only when you read it ....  8-)
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Re: WH32B data not displayed on WS-2000 Display after Battery Change
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2022, 09:20:57 AM »
Thanks gszlag!

So - a short story why I came asking "Does the screen on WH32B Sensor indicate when the battery is low?"

The spatial aspects first. The WH32B is in my office hung on the wall, and my shop is in the next space, followed by a hallway, and entryway, the kitchen before arriving at the dining room where the WS-2000 display is hung on the wall. About 14 meters (45 feet) and 3 wood-framed walls separation. Yesterday, I received the DJI Mavic Air 2 and after charging up all of the batteries later in the afternoon, began the activation and pairing process between the aircraft and its controller in the shop on the work bench less than 2 meters from the WH32B. At dinner I noticed the issue previously described above. I first suspected the batteries (still running strong after 3 years!), but then began to wonder if the issue could have been set in motion by an interruption in the signal between the WH32B and the WS-2000 even though they don't share anywhere near the same place on the electromagnetic spectrum; MHz v. GHz.

BoDuke helped to get the issue fixed, and you helped in figuring out that the DJI activation process may have been the signal's disruption - much appreciation to you both and to the Original Poster.

 

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