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Offline galfert

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #75 on: February 10, 2020, 01:47:44 PM »
"hoping for bad weather"....  :shock:  LOL... that is crazy!

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #76 on: February 10, 2020, 03:08:08 PM »
I have noticed a bug with the console firmware though. It doesn't always show the distance, just stays at 0.


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #77 on: February 11, 2020, 01:01:51 PM »
Damn, unfortunately I was away from home the one day we had strikes so I cant tell if my console displayed the distance correctly.
Its still showing a count of one and 2 days ago, but distance is zero so perhaps that did not work on mine either
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #78 on: February 13, 2020, 07:14:06 AM »
Another 9 lightning strikes recorded this morning. It seems a random process when it doesn't show the distance.

I also think that the lightning sound-alarm should have an option to be turned off/on. I have one console in my bedroom, and the beeping was driving me mad! As soon as it stopped, I was like 'ahhhhh' and then it started again! It goes for quite a long time too.

An even better option would be to allow the user to set a timeframe for when the sound is off/on. ie set audible lightning alarm on from 9am to midnight, off from midnight to 9am.


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #79 on: February 13, 2020, 10:35:51 AM »
Another 9 lightning strikes recorded this morning. It seems a random process when it doesn't show the distance.

I also think that the lightning sound-alarm should have an option to be turned off/on. I have one console in my bedroom, and the beeping was driving me mad! As soon as it stopped, I was like 'ahhhhh' and then it started again! It goes for quite a long time too.

An even better option would be to allow the user to set a timeframe for when the sound is off/on. ie set audible lightning alarm on from 9am to midnight, off from midnight to 9am.

Oh man, that can be annoying! I hope they come up with a selectable option for the alarm or I might have to reconsider getting one when they're available. I can probably sleep through the sound, but my wife.... it won't be a good morning for me!

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #80 on: February 13, 2020, 10:56:48 AM »
Oh wow that is bad. Besides the time window for audible alerts I would also like to be able to select a distance radius to be alerted to.
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #81 on: February 13, 2020, 11:12:47 AM »
We set the lightning alert to be 30 minutes based on the accepted 30/30 principle for lightning safety.
However I think that this should apply only to the icon and that the sound warning should be selectable as required and perhaps have day/night options
We can feed that back

I did not see any alerts today and I am not too far from Mapantz (bout 70 miles)
Did you find that the ecowitt.net showed the distance yet the console did not?
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #82 on: February 13, 2020, 05:40:41 PM »

Did you find that the ecowitt.net showed the distance yet the console did not?

Yep. ecowitt dashboard shows each strike distance fine, as does the API through CMX. It does it on both consoles, so there's a small bug in there somewhere. I think the count has a bug too, it should be resetting each day or something?! If by some chance I get lucky with Spanish plumes or massive MCS' during the Summer, the count might end up being big enough not to fit on the screen.

I also spotted something new; click the up/down arrows 4 times from the main screen - there's a new one there. Not sure how I missed it.


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #83 on: February 13, 2020, 05:57:02 PM »
I think the count has a bug too, it should be resetting each day or something?! If by some chance I get lucky with Spanish plumes or massive MCS' during the Summer, the count might end up being big enough not to fit on the screen.

Hmm, they did a fix to the issue I reported to NOT reset the last strike time at midnight, so it sounds like they erroneously included the strike count in that fix?
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #84 on: February 13, 2020, 06:55:58 PM »
Hmm, they did a fix to the issue I reported to NOT reset the last strike time at midnight, so it sounds like they erroneously included the strike count in that fix?

Hi Mark

This is on the console display.


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2020, 03:17:25 AM »
Oh yes, back to snoozing  :-"
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2020, 06:45:39 AM »

Did you find that the ecowitt.net showed the distance yet the console did not?

Yep. ecowitt dashboard shows each strike distance fine, as does the API through CMX. It does it on both consoles, so there's a small bug in there somewhere. I think the count has a bug too, it should be resetting each day or something?! If by some chance I get lucky with Spanish plumes or massive MCS' during the Summer, the count might end up being big enough not to fit on the screen.

I also spotted something new; click the up/down arrows 4 times from the main screen - there's a new one there. Not sure how I missed it.

Oh well spotted in the new menu - I had not seen that and its something I have been asking for.
If you have multiple soil sensors you cannot easily see the data on the console and need to use either WS-View (GW1000) or ecowitt.net
I like this view as it sticks and shows all the extra sensor (temp/AQM/Soil and lightning) data in one view that stays until your return it to normal mode.

In terms of the strike count, I have only seen one so I cannot tell, but are you saying that its cumulative?
If I get a new strike today I was assuming that the last strike time/day would update to the latest measurement and that the strike count would update/reset and start counting the new strikes only
Will need to feed that back as well if so.
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2020, 07:35:04 AM »
my friend's station in Rieti (Italy) today has registered two strikes at about 20 km
the data is correct, radar image confirmed this  ;)
I'm waiting to test  :sad:

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #88 on: February 15, 2020, 10:49:10 AM »
I've been feeding back our findings around the beta HP2550/1 console firmware (1.5.9)
Lucy has taken on board the comments on the lightning detection and the engineer is working on updating the firmware so we will get a new one to test soon.

The new display for external sensors that Mapantz found will stay and is going to be improved for legibility

I've adjusted the sensitivity of my lightning sensor to 'high' to see if that improves its detection of any nearby strikes given we have the pleasure of 'Storm Dennis' currently!
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #89 on: February 16, 2020, 12:22:58 PM »
my friend's station in Rieti (Italy) today has registered two strikes at about 20 km
the data is correct, radar image confirmed this  ;)
I'm waiting to test  :sad:

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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #90 on: February 18, 2020, 03:47:11 PM »
A test firmware has removed the beeping from the console altogether now.  :-(

I would have liked to have set a time for when the alarm sounds. The distance has been fixed.

Apparently, the lightning count will show -- after an hour if no more lightning is detected. Doesn't seem to be the case for me, as there was a strike detected 2 hours ago and it still shows 1.


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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #91 on: February 19, 2020, 01:18:33 PM »
Maybe this would be a better design:
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #92 on: February 29, 2020, 03:05:20 AM »
Lightning detector is now listed on the ecowitt site.

http://www.ecowitt.com/wifi_weather/143.html

Also; Water leak sensor is now listed.

http://www.ecowitt.com/wifi_weather/144.html
« Last Edit: February 29, 2020, 03:18:03 AM by John Carroll »
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #93 on: February 29, 2020, 05:53:16 AM »
Good spot.

The manual for the lightning detector is here
http://www.ecowitt.com/upfile/202002/WH57%20Manual.pdf

and the water leak sensor here:
http://www.ecowitt.com/upfile/202002/WH55%20Manual.pdf

Please note any potential purchasers that the HP2551 firmware that supports the Lightning sensor has not yet been publicly released but I am sure it wont be long.
The GW1000 firmware is already supporting both the new sensors.
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #94 on: February 29, 2020, 05:57:19 AM »
I had asked Lucy to email me when the lightning detector was ready  :thumbsup:

Ive asked her if this is suitable as an outdoor housing, She will run it by the engineer and get back to me.
http://www.ecowitt.com/Others/115.html
« Last Edit: February 29, 2020, 06:01:39 AM by John Carroll »
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #95 on: February 29, 2020, 08:45:32 AM »
The lighting sensor is in the same housing as the WH32 which is an outdoor sensor but not certified for waterproofness. It is recommended to use the RS-00001 radiation shield or other similar enclosure. Therefore I would say the same applies to the lightning sensor since it is the same exact size. But...the lighting sensor detects electrical discharge miles away. Why would you need to put it outdoor?
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #96 on: February 29, 2020, 08:51:37 AM »
I just thought it best to have it outside ???
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #97 on: February 29, 2020, 08:57:41 AM »
I just thought it best to have it outside ???

Well perhaps it would be less susceptible to interference. That would be the only reason I think. But in that case just put it outdoors but under roof of front porch or back porch or covered patio...etc.
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #98 on: February 29, 2020, 10:23:24 AM »
Lightning detector is now listed on the ecowitt site.

http://www.ecowitt.com/wifi_weather/143.html

Also; Water leak sensor is now listed.

http://www.ecowitt.com/wifi_weather/144.html

Any idea when they will show up on Amazon (US)?

I am wondering if there is going to be a delay getting these into that channel given the current COVID-19 issues. Seeing a couple other supply chains having issues along that line.   
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Re: Lightning detector
« Reply #99 on: February 29, 2020, 12:40:46 PM »
Just waiting for Ambient to start selling them so it works with my WS-2000 display.