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Title: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on May 20, 2010, 10:06:51 AM
I'm using this software to calculate my Fire Weather Index.

http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=9 (http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=9)

And you could see the FWI around the world (not many users right now)

http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=6 (http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=6)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Bushman on May 20, 2010, 10:55:02 AM
Cool pgm.  Thanks!
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Downlinerz2 on May 20, 2010, 11:00:40 AM
   Thanks for the post.  I am going to give it a try.   =D> =D> =D>
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: casa manana on May 20, 2010, 12:08:45 PM
Thanks for the post, this looks like a great tool.

We're currently in a fire weather watch here in Arizona......first of many this summer I'm sure.

Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Weather Display on May 20, 2010, 01:58:04 PM
you can get WD software to calculate the FWI for you though
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on May 20, 2010, 02:04:00 PM
you can get WD software to calculate the FWI for you though

Yes I know that, and I'm using WD to that as well.

But this program creates a history page so you could follow the FWI.

I think it's a good complement to WD (nothing beats WD  \:D/ )
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: dhrandy on May 20, 2010, 07:29:01 PM
I was going to check it out but I guess it doesn't work on Windows 7.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: up10ad N9RJH on May 20, 2010, 09:50:12 PM
The installer appears to be a 16 bit application and won't run in 64 bit windows, either Vista 64 or Win7 64.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: up10ad N9RJH on May 22, 2010, 09:32:04 AM
The developer up up a link to the raw files for download on 64 bit systems.  It doesn't need to 'install' and you can just copy the files to a new folder (C:\FWI, don't use Program Files x86).  The issue for me still seems to be that all data has to be entered manually, it doesn't seem to read either VWS or WD data files.  Also the help file is an old-style .chm that won't open in Win 7 and requires you to download a free viewer application to see it.

Did I overlook something here?  It does appear that if I create a custom data file daily at about noon containing  Date, Temp, Humidity, Windspeed & Rainfall (total or 24hr) that it will read that file.  
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: jmcmurry on May 22, 2010, 09:54:24 AM
Rick,

I'm giving this a try too and have WD creating a file with the following tags and the program seems to parse it just fine.

%date-month%/%date-day%/%utcdate-yeartwo%,%temp%,%hum%,%avgspd%,%totalrainlast24hours%

I have it being updated the same way and times that testtags is done, but I do believe you only need it updated by noon each day.  My problem is that no matter what I try, fwiweb.xml isn't being created.  Maybe the program has to run awhile and build up some data first?

- Jim
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on May 22, 2010, 04:39:49 PM
Rick,

I'm giving this a try too and have WD creating a file with the following tags and the program seems to parse it just fine.

%date-month%/%date-day%/%utcdate-yeartwo%,%temp%,%hum%,%avgspd%,%totalrainlast24hours%

I have it being updated the same way and times that testtags is done, but I do believe you only need it updated by noon each day.  My problem is that no matter what I try, fwiweb.xml isn't being created.  Maybe the program has to run awhile and build up some data first?

- Jim

I suppose you have ticked the option to create the XML file?
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: jmcmurry on May 23, 2010, 07:51:48 AM
Lars,

Yes, I have that ticked and everything else seems to be doing fine, just no xml file for me yet.  I assume it will be created in the /FWI/ folder?  I see that I'm on the map now, but no data because of this file.

Thanks.  - Jim
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on May 23, 2010, 04:13:19 PM
Lars,

Yes, I have that ticked and everything else seems to be doing fine, just no xml file for me yet.  I assume it will be created in the /FWI/ folder?  I see that I'm on the map now, but no data because of this file.

Thanks.  - Jim

Jim,

I think you got it working now, your FWI data is on the map.

http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=6 (http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=6)

Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: jmcmurry on May 23, 2010, 08:42:03 PM
Lars,

I apparently figured it out.  I had to make a simple page that only includes the table that he provides and started that to be created and uploaded.  I did that this morning prior to going to golf with my buddies and after 18 holes and several beers I find that it is now working.  Must have been the golf.  Lars, you're a wizzard!  Now I have to figure out what all these numbers really mean.

Thanks.  - Jim
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on May 24, 2010, 04:27:34 PM
Now I have to figure out what all these numbers really mean.

Here is the explanation.

Quote
FFMC (Fine Fuel Moisture Code) is a numerical rating of the moisture content of surface litter and other cured fine fuels. It shows the relative ease of ignition and flammability of fine fuels. The moisture content of fine fuels is very sensitive to the weather. Even a day of rain, or of fine and windy weather, will significantly affect the FFMC rating. The system uses a time lag of two-thirds of a day to accurately measure the moisture content in fine fuels. The FFMC rating is on a scale of 0 to 99. Any figure above 70 is high, and above 90 is extreme.

DMC (Duff Moisture Code) is a numerical rating of the average moisture content of loosely compacted organic layers of moderate depth. The code indicates the depth that fire will burn in moderate duff layers and medium size woody material. Duff layers take longer than surface fuels to dry out but weather conditions over the past couple of weeks will significantly affect the DMC. The system applies a time lag of 12 days to calculate the DMC. A DMC rating of more than 30 is dry, and above 40 indicates that intensive burning will occur in the duff and medium fuels. Burning off operations should not be carried out when the DMC rating is above 40.

DC (Drought Code) is a numerical rating of the moisture content of deep, compact, organic layers. It is a useful indicator of seasonal drought and shows the likelihood of fire involving the deep duff layers and large logs. A long period of dry weather (the system uses 52 days) is needed to dry out these fuels and affect the Drought Code. A DC rating of 200 is high, and 300 or more is extreme indicating that fire will involve deep sub-surface and heavy fuels. Burning off should not be permitted when the DC rating is above 300.

ISI (Initial Spread Index) indicates the rate fire will spread in its early stages. It is calculated from the FFMC rating and the wind factor. The open-ended ISI scale starts at zero and a rating of 10 indicates high rate of spread shortly after igition. A rating of 16 or more indicates extremely rapid rate of spread.

BUI (Build Up Index) index shows the amount of fuel available for combustion, indicating how the fire will develop after initial spread. It is calculated from the Duff Moisture Code and the Drought Code. The BUI scale starts at zero and is open-ended. A rating above 40 is high, above 60 is extreme.

FWI (Fire Weather Index) Information from the ISI and BUI is combined to provide a numerical rating of fire intensity - the Fire Weather Index. The FWI indicates the likely intensity of a fire. The FWI is divided into four fire danger classes: Low 0 - 7 Moderate 8 - 16 High l7 - 31 Extreme 32+

FFDC (Forest Fire Danger Code) Based on predicted generated "fire intensity (kw/m?)" in forest type vegetation (pine, beech). This code denotes how difficult it would be to control a fire in this vegetation type should one start. (Low, Moderate, High, Very High, Extreme)

SFDC (Scrub Fire Danger Code) Based on predicted generated "fire intensity (kw/m?)" in scrub type vegetation (manuka, gorse, broom). This code denotes how difficult it would be to control a fire in this vegetation type should one start. (Low, Moderate, High, Very High, Extreme)

GFDC (Grass Fire Danger Code) Based on predicted generated "fire intensity (kw/m?)" in grass type vegetation (dry grass, tussock). This code denotes how difficult it would be to control a fire in this vegetation type should one start. (Low, Moderate, High, Very High, Extreme)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Arthurhh on December 25, 2010, 03:30:29 PM
I'm using this software to calculate my Fire Weather Index.

http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=9 (http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=9)

And you could see the FWI around the world (not many users right now)

http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=6 (http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=6)

Just followed up from your email, it was easy to implement and seems very competent.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Arthurhh on December 26, 2010, 01:34:03 AM
I'm using this software to calculate my Fire Weather Index.

http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=9 (http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=9)

And you could see the FWI around the world (not many users right now)

http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=6 (http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=6)

Just followed up from your email, it was easy to implement and seems very competent.

Maybe not I seem to be unable to use custom out txt since it is generated every minute for other applications I have so now I am looking at a custon texttags file.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on December 26, 2010, 02:58:59 AM
This is what I use.

Code: [Select]
%date-year%-%date-month%-%date-day%,%temp%,%hum%,%avspeedinkmh%,%totalrainlast24hours%
And it's created every minute.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Arthurhh on December 26, 2010, 05:56:19 AM
This is what I use.

Code: [Select]
%date-year%-%date-month%-%date-day%,%temp%,%hum%,%avspeedinkmh%,%totalrainlast24hours%
And it's created every minute.

Hmm I dont have a tag %totalrainlast24hours% and any attempt to add it errors.

[FIXED] It does help to enclose the %% in quotes  :oops:
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: capeweather on March 19, 2012, 01:34:20 PM
I just started using this software about 4 days ago and it's great!!! The graphs are getting generated and even got the tabular data updating which is set for 30 days. So far I've only collected 4 days of data but it appears to be updating nicely. I was really surprised to only see 6 stations in the entire US contributing their data but maybe that will change. My page is listed below if anybody wants to check it out...

http://www.capeweather.com/fire-graphs.html
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: casa manana on March 20, 2012, 02:06:37 PM
Your site looks great.  It's motivating me to get this going on my station before our fire season in Arizona, which is right around the corner.

Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: capeweather on March 20, 2012, 02:25:14 PM
Thanks! Yes, it is slick software and will like it!
Your site looks great.  It's motivating me to get this going on my station before our fire season in Arizona, which is right around the corner.


Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on March 20, 2012, 03:55:40 PM
I just started using this software about 4 days ago and it's great!!! The graphs are getting generated and even got the tabular data updating which is set for 30 days. So far I've only collected 4 days of data but it appears to be updating nicely. I was really surprised to only see 6 stations in the entire US contributing their data but maybe that will change. My page is listed below if anybody wants to check it out...

http://www.capeweather.com/fire-graphs.html

Nice to see that there is more and more using this software.

Right now there is 19 statins on the FWI worldmap (http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=6) (could be more)

7 in Europe, 1 in Africa, 3 in New Zealand, 1 in Australia and 7 in USA

In total there is 31 stations

Australia - Bayswater North Weather
Belgium - Mechelen (O.L.V. Waver)
Canada - Haliburton
Canada - Tzouhalem-Maple Bay
Dominican Republic - DOMINICAN
Greece - Vyron, Athens   
Netherlands - Eersel
Netherlands - Hoogeloon
Netherlands - Meteo Alkmaar
Netherlands - Noorden
Netherlands - Tilburg-Reeshof
Netherlands - Veenendaal   
New Zealand - Arthur's Pass 
New Zealand - Palmerston North 
New Zealand - Tokoroa Weather Live 
New Zealand - Wairoa, Hawkes Bay 
Slovenia - Slovenske Konjice
Slovenia - VP Okroglo, Kal nad Kanalom
South Africa - SecundaWeather 
Sweden - Axelvold
Switzerland - Vouvry
United States - Albuquerque
United States - Brighton
United States - Cape Coral
United States - Hoosick Falls
United States - Hudson, Florida
United States - Lowell, MA
United States - Mauston, Wisconsin
United States - Round Rock
United States - Springfield,IL
United States - Waupaca, Wisconsin


Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: ccweather on March 23, 2012, 03:53:56 PM
Started running FWI Calc just a couple days after CapeWeather ...
He talked me into it!! LOL ...
It IS very cool. Once you get the little burps and hickups for the data format/parsing figured out...

http://www.charlottecountyweather.com/fire-graphs.php (http://www.charlottecountyweather.com/fire-graphs.php)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: capeweather on March 23, 2012, 04:32:19 PM
 UU

Started running FWI Calc just a couple days after CapeWeather ...
He talked me into it!! LOL ...
It IS very cool. Once you get the little burps and hickups for the data format/parsing figured out...

http://www.charlottecountyweather.com/fire-graphs.php (http://www.charlottecountyweather.com/fire-graphs.php)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on March 23, 2012, 04:36:54 PM
Started running FWI Calc just a couple days after CapeWeather ...
He talked me into it!! LOL ...
It IS very cool. Once you get the little burps and hickups for the data format/parsing figured out...

http://www.charlottecountyweather.com/fire-graphs.php (http://www.charlottecountyweather.com/fire-graphs.php)

Nice setup.  =D>
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: ccweather on March 23, 2012, 04:54:14 PM
On a side note - but also in regards to FWI Calc ...
I want to share the code I put together to get the proper data, in the required format from the testtags.php file that Weather Display creates...

I setup a php file and loaded it to my web server.  This php file executes via a cron job at 10 minutes before midnight...
then just before I parse the data, I use a wget function to pull down text file for the computations...

I miss about 10 minutes worth of wind/rain data from the entire day... But, no big deal... LOL

<?php
//load up the data file!!
include("testtags.php");
############################################################################
?>

<?php
// remove trailing information (ie: mph or in or F)
function strip_units ($data) {
  preg_match('/([\d\,\.\+\-]+)/',$data,$t);
  return $t[1];}

//grab current minutes and convert to decimal portion of an hour ie: 12:45 - the 45min will be 0.75)
(float)$current_minutes = $time_minute / 60;
//add minutes to hours - hours based on 24 hour format
(float)$current_hours_minutes = $time_hour + $current_minutes;

//calculate average wind speed for entire day - up to EXACT point of last data collection
(float)$dailyavewindspeed = $windruntoday / $current_hours_minutes;
$nwind = round($dailyavewindspeed,2);


// Build semi-colon delimited text file for FWI data
// Fields are: Date,Temperature,Humidity,Windspeed,Rainfall
// Input data defined in testtags.php

$fwidat = $date . ";" . strip_units($maxtemp) . ";" . $lowhum . ";" . $nwind . ";" . strip_units($dayrn);
$fwi = PutData("fwicalc.txt",$fwidat);

############################################################################
// A simple function to write data to a file
function PutData($file, $data) {
$fp = fopen($file, "w") or die('ERROR: Can\'t write to ('.$file.')');
    flock($fp, LOCK_EX);
   fputs($fp, $data );
    flock($fp, LOCK_UN);
   fclose($fp );
}
?>

Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: youngros on May 15, 2012, 09:53:10 AM
I have downloaded this software and read the instructions and the comments on here, but still a bit confused as to how to get this to work.
From what I can see I need to create a custom tag file. Now I'm not quite sure how to do this. Is it done under special file conversions along with testtags? And where do I store the files? Sorry if it sounds dumb but I hate messing around with WD as invariably I mess something up  :oops:
Help with this would be much appreciated, thanks.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: jmcmurry on May 15, 2012, 10:09:39 AM
The attached is how mine is set up.

- Jim
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: DaculaWeather on May 15, 2012, 11:34:16 AM
Lars,

I did that this morning prior to going to golf with my buddies and after 18 holes and several beers I find that it is now working.  Must have been the golf. 

Thanks.  - Jim
Everything works better after a few beers!
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: youngros on May 15, 2012, 11:49:04 AM
Thanks Jim, that made life much easier and the file is now being created.
Now on to the next section of creating the table and uploading it to my website, problem is I don't drink beer or play golf  :lol:
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: DaculaWeather on May 15, 2012, 12:26:45 PM
Now on to the next section of creating the table and uploading it to my website, problem is I don't drink beer or play golf  :lol:
You might have a long road ahead of you then!  :grin:
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: youngros on May 15, 2012, 02:44:05 PM
Yes I know, it is not exactly intuitive. I have the table working now, but not the ftp upload even though it has accepted the ftp details. More work needed but we will get there.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: youngros on May 16, 2012, 12:24:03 PM
Any ideas as to why the ftp doesn't want to work for me? I have filled all the details in and hit test, the red box flashes green before turning back to red and the error code is 0. On the main page of FWI it says ftp enabled, but it is not uploading the file. A bit stumped on this one.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on May 16, 2012, 01:10:21 PM
Any ideas as to why the ftp doesn't want to work for me? I have filled all the details in and hit test, the red box flashes green before turning back to red and the error code is 0. On the main page of FWI it says ftp enabled, but it is not uploading the file. A bit stumped on this one.

Look in the ftp log?

Maybe there are some clues to why it does not work.

You will find it under Web, view ftp log.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: youngros on May 16, 2012, 01:31:37 PM
Nothing in the ftp log even though it is checked to keep a log.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: youngros on May 16, 2012, 01:50:37 PM
Duhh, missed the Start ftp  ](*,) Although I did have to close the program down and restart and hey presto it worked. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on May 16, 2012, 02:15:02 PM
Duhh, missed the Start ftp  ](*,) Although I did have to close the program down and restart and hey presto it worked. Thanks guys.

Glad you got it working, how does your page look?
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: youngros on May 17, 2012, 01:43:16 PM
Looks like this www.mad-weather.com/fwi.php (http://www.mad-weather.com/fwi.php) I probably need to look at the settings a bit more closely now I have it working. I like the FIRMS fire web mapper, that shows 3 fires near to us. Fortunately not too much ash raining down on us. So little rain in the last 12 months everywhere is tinder dry. I will put the description as link as it takes up too much page space really.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: tstorm on May 17, 2012, 03:03:12 PM
For some reason I can't get the ftp function to work when I click on test.  It goes from red to green to red.   I did exit out of the program several time and clicked on the Start FTP under Web.  There is nothing in the FTP log and I do have the FTP log checked under the FTP setup.  Any ideas?

Below are the results I get when I click on the ftp test

Proto = ""
User  = "harpersf"
Pass  = "**************"
Host  = "ftp.harpersferry-weather.com"
Port  = "21"
Path  = ""
OnRequestDone. RqType = 1    ErrCode = 0
OnRequestDone. RqType = 2    ErrCode = 0
OnRequestDone. RqType = 3    ErrCode = 0
OnRequestDone. RqType = 37    ErrCode = 0
OnRequestDone. RqType = 15    ErrCode = 0
FTP tests completed
Done.

Thanks,

John
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on May 17, 2012, 03:22:39 PM
For some reason I can't get the ftp function to work when I click on test.  It goes from red to green to red.   I did exit out of the program several time and clicked on the Start FTP under Web.  There is nothing in the FTP log and I do have the FTP log checked under the FTP setup.  Any ideas?

Below are the results I get when I click on the ftp test

Proto = ""
User  = "harpersf"
Pass  = "**************"
Host  = "ftp.harpersferry-weather.com"
Port  = "21"
Path  = ""
OnRequestDone. RqType = 1    ErrCode = 0
OnRequestDone. RqType = 2    ErrCode = 0
OnRequestDone. RqType = 3    ErrCode = 0
OnRequestDone. RqType = 37    ErrCode = 0
OnRequestDone. RqType = 15    ErrCode = 0
FTP tests completed
Done.

Thanks,

John


Is it green or red on the main screen under web function for the FTP?
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: tstorm on May 17, 2012, 03:59:37 PM
Was white now it's green.  Looks like I got it to work  

Thanks,

John
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: tstorm on May 18, 2012, 09:03:44 AM
When I do the test parse from FWI setup I get the following

DATA FILE PARSED OUTPUT
----------------------------------------------
Date: 05/18/12
Temp: 54.7
Humidity: 86
Wind Speed: 0.9
Rainfall: 0.00.

Seems like there's an issue with the rainfall having a . after 0.00 as when I click on "Process Now" it says that the "Rainfall is not a valid number!".  I'm using the following as fwi-in.txt
%date-month%/%date-day%/%utcdate-yeartwo%,%temp%,%hum%,%avgspd%,%totalrainlast24hours%

Any ideas?

Also can anyone share the html/php files that would be used to create the table under web file options that I've seen on some web pages?

Thanks,

John

Update:  I figured out the . after the rainfall (0.00.).  I had to turn off the units in WD.  In Web Files/Web Page Setup under Web Files Setup #1 I unchecked the "Include the Units Used"

Still need to figure out the web page stuff so if anyone is willing to share the html/php files used in the Web/File Options I would be greatful.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on May 18, 2012, 01:59:56 PM
This is what I'm using, nothing fancy but it works.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: DaculaWeather on June 04, 2012, 05:14:50 PM
Crap... I guess I'll have to get it installed now. You all are just making more work for me!  :-)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Axelvold on June 04, 2012, 06:14:17 PM
Crap... I guess I'll have to get it installed now. You all are just making more work for me!  :-)

He he, that's what friends are for.  :lol:
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: DaculaWeather on June 04, 2012, 06:18:58 PM
So I guess I need to sit back and wait a few days now?? I see that it's set to process a couple of minutes past midnight.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: wuhu_software on June 23, 2012, 09:12:27 AM

Great job on the Charlotte website.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: ccweather on June 25, 2012, 07:24:59 PM

Great job on the Charlotte website.


Thank You!! Very Much!!
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: Melinamour on July 28, 2013, 06:37:34 AM
Hi, i have the FWI calculator but I want some help if you can. I have this project where I have 40 years of data in EXCEL and I want to find FWI for each day but I don't know how. Is there a way I can put this file as input and then the program automatically finds the FWI and saves it somewhere? Please help!!!
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: wuhu_software on July 28, 2013, 08:27:11 AM

Contact the author of the FWI calculator and I am sure he can help you out.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: mkutche on September 06, 2014, 09:04:44 PM
Link seems broken can someone share the program??
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: JennyLeez on November 02, 2014, 05:59:43 PM
Links are now back up for the FWI Calculator Software:

http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=9&ser=NNF7631T1 (http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=9&ser=NNF7631T1)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: BeaumarisWX on November 02, 2014, 06:34:40 PM
Hi Jenny, Thanks again for your recent assistance.

Just wanted to add that Graeme creator of FWI Calc has a Beta version out. I've been running it live since he created it and works brilliant, worth a look.

regards
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: mkutche on November 02, 2014, 06:56:10 PM
awesome thanks you guys!! Now to figure out how to use it. :)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: mkutche on November 02, 2014, 08:06:51 PM
I am stuck am trying to figure out what files i need to upload to my webserver and what not .. :(
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: JennyLeez on November 03, 2014, 06:39:56 AM
Hi,
Start by having a look under Help - Internet Options - File Options.
This will explain how the parse tags work plus give you code for a base page layout.
From there you can build using tags listed.
Also Under Graphs, Graph Maker. Play with these and upload the ones you want.

Yell if need more help.

Cheers
Jenny
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: mkutche on November 03, 2014, 08:35:00 AM
Still clueless on how to use the web stuff :(
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: JennyLeez on November 04, 2014, 09:42:48 PM
Hi again,

In brief you Set up Data – Make a web page – Parse web page – upload webpage.

Setup
I presume you have gone through and set up FWICalc following the Readme – Setting up Data. This can take a couple of days to get right especially the Cure Table. There is a bit of reading there but worth following it down. It took me a week before I was happy with what it was reporting.
It took me another week playing to sort out a web page. So yes it is a bit of work, but worth it.

Under FWI setup, bottom left.
If using Cumulus your Data File Type and Location is your realtime.txt. So select that and set the path. I will add a screenshot down bottom as readme is different.
FWICalc will auto update from there once a day.

Web Page
As far as the web page is concerned. It is up to you to build one.
In the readme, Under Internet Options – File Options the author has added an example which is a good starting point.
So open wxnewpage.php
Rename this to say wxfwicalc.php and save.
Slot the example in between:
Code: [Select]
<div id="main-copy">

<h1><?php langtrans('Fire Weather Index'); ?></h1>
<p>The following is FWI Data for the ^fwistation^.</p>
<p>Last Updated: ^fwitime^</p>
^fwitable^   
   
</div><!-- end main-copy -->
Save this a second time and call it wxfwicalcT.php as the tags are parsed much the same as the Cumulus tags are in the standard version.

Parse web Page
Now we set up to parse the file.
In readme this is under Internet Options – File Options.
In FWICalculator click on Web Files.
Under Input files put the path to your wxfwicalcT.php something like
C:\cumulus\fwi\wxfwicalcT.php
On the other side under output files:
C:\cumulus\fwi\wxfwicalc.php

Click on Parse Now and that will replace the tags with your data.

Upload web page
Set up the FTP side of things as in the Readme – Internet Options – Dialup / FTP Setup.
Then,
Follow the readme to process this file and upload – Internet Options – FTP File List Select.
In this scenario under FTP File List Select you will have something like:
C:\cumulus\fwi\wxfwicalc.php
And under Server path:
public_html/wxfwicalc.php

To do a manual upload: Under Internet select Start FTP(Send all)
If FTP settings are correct, this will send this page up to your server.
Open it and see what you have.

I have not tested the above in the Saratoga template but I have no doubt it will stick out to the right :)

You can preen that back by unticking some of the columns – FWI Setup – tab Application Settings. On the left – Front page Chart Titles and under Show. Untick what you do not want.
Here is the above without any styling.
http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fwi_test.php (http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fwi_test.php)

This gives you a brief outline as to how fwicalc works.
It is up to you to build your web page adding the fwi tags for parsing and displaying.
The full list of tags are in the readme. Get creative :)

Create some graphs for uploading. There is 2 full pages in the readme covering this. Then upload. Add links to these in your web page. Here are 2 examples of what can be done. This is a standalone page.
http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fire_index.php (http://wairoa.net/weather/fwi/fire_index.php)
This is the same page incorporated into the Saratoga template.
http://wairoaweather.net/wxfwi.php (http://wairoaweather.net/wxfwi.php)

Cheers and Good Luck
Jenny
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: pernaczy on May 27, 2015, 04:18:21 AM
Hi,
1. I'm new to this forum and I'm not an English native speaker so please, be tolerant.
2. Since November 2012 I'm running my Fine Offset WH 2080 weather station and my weather web page: http://www.pogoda-niesiolowice.kaszuby.pl/ .
Some time ago I decided to add the "Fire danger" warning to my web site and I started to use :CBI calculation" script: http://sandaysoft.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2789 (temporarily using ONLY CURRENT DATA for calculation). Result you can see on my web page, on the sidebar.
3. Now it's time to go further so I'd like to play with "FWI_calc". I found this topic and an "instruction" given by Jenny. It seems to be very clear and I hoped to go in an easy way.
4. Unfortunately "FWI_calc" is NOT running on my computer. Any time I try tu run it, an error message appears (see attachment). Has someone any idea why?
I'm running "Cumulus" software on "HP-5720" terminal with WindowsXP Service Pack OS 3 installed on 320GB HDD.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: pernaczy on May 27, 2015, 10:22:59 AM
4. Unfortunately "FWI_calc" is NOT running on my computer. Any time I try tu run it, an error message appears (see attachment). Has someone any idea why?
I'm running "Cumulus" software on "HP-5720" terminal with WindowsXP Service Pack OS 3 installed on 320GB HDD.
Problem has been solved and I must say sorry for those starting (I hope) to think about my problem.  It seems to me that I wrote my previous post before starting to think. It was just enough to install "FWI_calc" NOT to the "C:\FWI\" folder (that is being proposed by installer by default), but to "C:\Program Files\FWI\" folder (my OS is WinXP).
Finally, an application is running and I hope to set is up shortly.

Piotr
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: pernaczy on June 23, 2015, 02:54:49 AM
Hi again,
It has almost been done: http://www.pogoda-niesiolowice.kaszuby.pl/firedangerrisk.php  :grin:
It was much less painful I expected it to be. Also I've learned a lot (following Polish proverb: Before, Iknew that they era playing. Now I know in wchat church).
Many, many thanks to Jenny ang Graeme. All the help I got from them was priceless.
Piotr
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: WXH on October 26, 2018, 03:18:30 PM
Links are now back up for the FWI Calculator Software:

http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=9&ser=NNF7631T1 (http://www.wilddata.org.nz/fwicalc/index.php?page=9&ser=NNF7631T1)

Hello, link is not working anymore. Does some one have a new working link to FWICalc?
Thanks!
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: JennyLeez on October 27, 2018, 04:43:04 AM
Hi,

Links to files may be found here:

http://www.localweather.net.nz/smf/other-software/45/fwi-calculator-software/5438/msg60954#msg60954 (http://www.localweather.net.nz/smf/other-software/45/fwi-calculator-software/5438/msg60954#msg60954)

Cheers
Jenny
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: WXH on October 27, 2018, 01:12:16 PM
Thanks for the link :-)

I installed today this latest version. It is a pity that there will be no follow-up. I have this version (v.10.5.2.109) with Windows 7 Professional and works fine. But in the future with Windows 10 updates I'm not sure. Anyway that's not for now.

greetz Remie
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: R_o_B on October 30, 2018, 09:25:43 AM
...But in the future with Windows 10 updates I'm not sure.
Version 10.5.2.109 of the FWI Calc software works well (without problem) in Windows 10... ;)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: HansR on September 22, 2019, 05:37:09 AM
I created a standalone Fire Weather Index for the Cumulus environment.
The software can be downloaded here (https://cumulus.hosiene.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=17998) and pre-viewed here (https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl/) (Reports=>pwsFWI).
The science behind is can be found here (https://meteo-wagenborgen.nl/wp/2019/08/19/an-effort-for-a-simpler-fire-weather-index/).

Works only in the Cumulus environment!
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: pekkie on February 09, 2021, 07:35:15 PM
Good evening everyone. you want to ask for help. I have configured the fwicalc software and I have sent the data online the problem and not showing. how can i do to fix it? I as a weather software have cumulus. the site and this.
http://www.meteobrianza.net/wxcalc.php (http://www.meteobrianza.net/wxcalc.php)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: the beteljuice on February 10, 2021, 03:25:52 AM
On another forum you gave a slightly different link http://www.meteobrianza.net/wxcalcul.php

Which although an equally bad cut-n-paste paste page at least shows some "place holders" which have not been populated.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: pekkie on February 10, 2021, 07:32:16 AM
Now I've changed it and that's okay. anyway i wanted to know if you want how to fix FwiCalc data. I've tried everything but it doesn't transfer my data online. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: TrugWX on February 13, 2021, 06:33:25 PM
From the Internet menu select Web / File Options. At the bottom of the page enter your website URL and check the box marked Post Data to FWICalc Website. That should be all that is needed.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: pekkie on February 18, 2021, 07:27:06 AM
Thanks TrugWX. I did as you wrote me. The graphics were created but to upload them to the site I had to use Cumulusmx. With FWIcalc it does not load them.
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: TrugWX on February 18, 2021, 08:49:53 AM
Sending data to the FWICalc website only sends a small data file, it does not send graphics. The data contained in the file are displayed in a table and on a map against your location.

The graphics that are produced by FWICalc are for you to use on your own website using either the inbuilt FTP option or another FTP client (as I do).
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: pekkie on February 18, 2021, 10:01:16 AM
ah ok now I understand. what client do you use? I can load them with cumulusmx
 http://meteobrianza.net/fwi/fmi.jpg  (http://meteobrianza.net/fwi/fmi.jpg)
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: TrugWX on February 18, 2021, 04:00:30 PM
I use Fling File Transfer to upload numerous graphics at regular intervals, including those produced by FWICalc.

I have checked the FWICalc website for your data and I cannot see it yet - it may take some time for it to appear. The table of stations is at https://www.arthurspass.com/fwicalc/fwi_table.php (https://www.arthurspass.com/fwicalc/fwi_table.php) and the world map is at https://www.arthurspass.com/fwicalc/fwi_world.php (https://www.arthurspass.com/fwicalc/fwi_world.php).
Title: Re: FWI Calculator
Post by: pekkie on February 18, 2021, 07:12:19 PM
The Fling File Transfer software is very interesting. I try to use it too. as for my data I have been online since 8/02 as you can see here http://www.meteobrianza.net/fwi/fw1.html (http://www.meteobrianza.net/fwi/fw1.html)
it seems strange to me that my data is not shown yet.