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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #675 on: February 08, 2025, 09:47:31 AM »
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take a look also, to the differences about horizontal solar radiation (grey) and vertical one (blue)

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #676 on: February 08, 2025, 12:00:50 PM »
Kallo78 - In Poland, we have been using SHT35 without filters for 1.5 years and in Barani and Apogee TS-100, Davis FARS24H in colleagues have not broken down. Maybe it's a matter of climate.
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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #677 on: February 08, 2025, 12:23:24 PM »
Kallo78 - In Poland, we have been using SHT35 without filters for 1.5 years and in Barani and Apogee TS-100, Davis FARS24H in colleagues have not broken down. Maybe it's a matter of climate.

Maybe. Rimini is a seaside town with salty air or perhaps I was unlucky. Maybe in the future I try again to put a sht35. Next I want to focus on the fan speed

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #678 on: February 08, 2025, 02:03:04 PM »
It can have an impact. I and many of my colleagues live hundreds of kilometers from the Baltic Sea. I have to the sea 600 km over. 1.5 years and sensors without filters on sht35 continue to work in passive and active shielding. The response time of the sht35 without a filter is much better than with any filter.
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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #679 on: February 09, 2025, 03:00:04 AM »
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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #680 on: February 10, 2025, 02:44:14 AM »
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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #681 on: February 13, 2025, 12:33:53 PM »
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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #682 on: February 15, 2025, 01:35:28 PM »
Resuming the Barani vs SC comparison today. My second SmartCellino arrived and I put it up at my 2nd station, which freed up the MS Pro placed there and I put it back at the testing location, at the expense of the Davis.

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #683 on: February 15, 2025, 01:37:43 PM »
For those curious, this is how high the sensors are placed in both shields. About 10 cm above the bottom plate.

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #684 on: February 16, 2025, 04:33:52 AM »
For those curious, this is how high the sensors are placed in both shields. About 10 cm above the bottom plate.



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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #685 on: February 17, 2025, 07:06:12 AM »
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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #686 on: February 18, 2025, 03:29:15 AM »
Yesterday's report, interesting in the evening hours regarding time constants

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #687 on: February 21, 2025, 03:41:13 AM »
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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #688 on: February 23, 2025, 07:50:21 AM »
Yesterday's report,

unfortunately, starting today, my reports will be protected, I have reason to believe that part of our work is used for purposes that are not ethically related to one's knowledge, given that such work is expensive in all senses, time, study, economic investments etc, I believe it is correct that it is protected in its dissemination

the opening password will be provided privately to those who request it together with the acceptance not to disclose the contents in any way

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #689 on: February 23, 2025, 10:11:10 AM »
What exactly do you have in mind?

I myself have invested a lot of money on my redundant measurement system and how are they being misused?
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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #690 on: February 23, 2025, 11:09:24 AM »
Who would use these amateur measurement games in home gardens or on roofs and for what?

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #691 on: February 23, 2025, 03:50:35 PM »
You see, I respect everyone's position and ideas, I respect those who do tests and make them freely and publicly available, I respect those who do nothing and read other people's reports to increase their knowledge, and I respect those who do tests and jealously keep the results for themselves.

It is true that all the work behind decades of tests and trials, processing and study of data, graphs, deviations etc. is, as some have said, a game, but personally it is a game that I have always carried out with the utmost rigor and commitment, albeit within my modest technical limits, and I believe I can arrogate to myself the right to limit the sharing of the results of this work.

I will not say why this decision was made, although, believe me, it was caused by valid reasons, and I did not say that I did not want to share the data from my toy tests, but I would like to know where they go and why.

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #692 on: February 23, 2025, 04:33:23 PM »
First 7 days of the new Barani vs SC test have passed and I don't have much to report. There has been a moderate wind pretty much 24/7, so there is very little difference between the two shields.

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #693 on: February 24, 2025, 03:16:09 AM »
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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #694 on: February 26, 2025, 02:51:35 AM »
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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #695 on: February 26, 2025, 03:59:01 AM »
Comparison of my colleague's SiAp vs Apogee TS-100 original and a similar cover produced by my colleague as the TS-100.
Ecowitt WS90 1.3.8, WS80 1.2.5, Ecowitt WS68, Ecowitt WH31EP/WH32EP, WH40, WH57, WN34L, WH51, WN34D, HP2560_C, HP2550_C, GW1100, GW2000. Davis Vantage Pro 2, Davis Vue, Davis 6313, Hongyuv WDS2E

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #696 on: February 26, 2025, 04:58:26 AM »
After the decision to make the post-processing work of my data protected (moreover some users are already requesting and receiving passwords) I decided to restore and update the weatherwizz monitoring page

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in this way it will be possible to follow the progress of the main parameters and the comparison between the various SRS/sensors in real time, this facilitates the reading of the instantaneous data but does not allow downloading them

https://mystation.weatherwizz.com/view.php?i=lfjezr8hfy4vh79s248&u=144&id=DSKILBTGOI

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #697 on: February 26, 2025, 05:15:12 AM »
For those curious, this is how high the sensors are placed in both shields. About 10 cm above the bottom plate.

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Hi, can I ask you what sensors they are? DS?
1)3 gw1000 +1 GW2000+GW3000
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7)2 meteoschield pro 3° gen
8)1 New Fars meteoshield pro 3° gen
9) davis 7714 Black
10) 2-wh40
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12)schermo solare RAD-02 Metspec
13)Meteorain 200 compact (Barani)
14) Davis vp2 pro ventilata
15) GW1001 ecowitt
16)schermo solare  Comet system da Cometeo
17)Apoge TS-100
18)Meteoshield pro 2 gen
template http://ortellemeteo.altervista.org/pwsd/
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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #698 on: February 26, 2025, 06:49:18 AM »
After the decision to make the post-processing work of my data protected (moreover some users are already requesting and receiving passwords) I decided to restore and update the weatherwizz monitoring page in this way it will be possible to follow the progress of the main parameters and the comparison between the various SRS/sensors in real time, this facilitates the reading of the instantaneous data but does not allow downloading them

https://mystation.weatherwizz.com/view.php?i=lfjezr8hfy4vh79s248&u=144&id=DSKILBTGOI

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Thx,
I'm adding it to my watch list. [tup]

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Re: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison
« Reply #699 on: February 26, 2025, 12:38:05 PM »
Comparison of my colleague's SiAp vs Apogee TS-100 original and a similar cover produced by my colleague as the TS-100.

No surprises there, passive shields can and will overheat in calm/sunny conditions, even Stevenson screens can overheat significantly. Stevenson screens can also suffer from errors caused by the very long time constant due to the great thermal mass, something smaller shields like the Barani/SmartCellino don't experience.

Not sure how relevant it still is but I found this study rather interesting: https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:947985/FULLTEXT01.pdf

Smaller screens are actually favoured in this study.

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