Topic: Barani MS Pro vs SmartCellino radiation shield comparison

[mauro63]

Yesterday's report, characterized by overcast skies with only rare appearances of the sun, rain in the evening

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Obviously a situation that tends to "level" the data, the timid signs of suffering of the Pro compared to the Siap today are barely perceptible om tha rare moments of solar radiation peaks.

M.

I’ve noticed your Barani seems to suffer from quite a significant undercatch of rain at times, similar to a lot of MeteoRains in Belgium. Mine had a 10-20% undercatch aswell and I therefore replaced it with an SBS500.

You have to say that, when new, the data were apparently better, to date my Meteorain, and I tried a couple, seem to underestimate by 5/15% compared to the wh-40 but above all compared to my manual, which is a manual for a few euros but reliable and that I use with the weighing system using a professional balance, even if unfortunately I don't always have time to make comparisons

I have to admit that, in terms of internal mechanisms, Meteorain do not seems better than a wh-40, similar quality construction and similar low-level materials quality

Probably Meteorain has a better and very accurate factory calibration phases but the low material quality can have influence on performances and time repeteability

M.

[Jasper3012]

Yesterday's report, characterized by overcast skies with only rare appearances of the sun, rain in the evening

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Obviously a situation that tends to "level" the data, the timid signs of suffering of the Pro compared to the Siap today are barely perceptible om tha rare moments of solar radiation peaks.

M.

I’ve noticed your Barani seems to suffer from quite a significant undercatch of rain at times, similar to a lot of MeteoRains in Belgium. Mine had a 10-20% undercatch aswell and I therefore replaced it with an SBS500.

You have to say that, when new, the data were apparently better, to date my Meteorain, and I tried a couple, seem to underestimate by 5/15% compared to the wh-40 but above all compared to my manual, which is a manual for a few euros but reliable and that I use with the weighing system using a professional balance, even if unfortunately I don't always have time to make comparisons

I have to admit that, in terms of internal mechanisms, Meteorain do not seems better than a wh-40, similar quality construction and similar low-level materials quality

Probably Meteorain has a better and very accurate factory calibration phases but the low material quality can have influence on performances and time repeteability

M.

This is what Geert and I (and many others here) have noticed aswell, it seems to be good at the start but the performance quite quickly deteriorates, leading to unreliable results. We also noticed that some devices still have good calibration after some time but that they still underreport, which indicates there’s an issue with the registration of the tipping action. Others have both calibration and registration issues.

[mauro63]

Yesterday's report, characterized by overcast skies with only rare appearances of the sun, rain in the evening

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Obviously a situation that tends to "level" the data, the timid signs of suffering of the Pro compared to the Siap today are barely perceptible om tha rare moments of solar radiation peaks.

M.

I’ve noticed your Barani seems to suffer from quite a significant undercatch of rain at times, similar to a lot of MeteoRains in Belgium. Mine had a 10-20% undercatch aswell and I therefore replaced it with an SBS500.

You have to say that, when new, the data were apparently better, to date my Meteorain, and I tried a couple, seem to underestimate by 5/15% compared to the wh-40 but above all compared to my manual, which is a manual for a few euros but reliable and that I use with the weighing system using a professional balance, even if unfortunately I don't always have time to make comparisons

I have to admit that, in terms of internal mechanisms, Meteorain do not seems better than a wh-40, similar quality construction and similar low-level materials quality

Probably Meteorain has a better and very accurate factory calibration phases but the low material quality can have influence on performances and time repeteability

M.

This is what Geert and I (and many others here) have noticed aswell, it seems to be good at the start but the performance quite quickly deteriorates, leading to unreliable results. We also noticed that some devices still have good calibration after some time but that they still underreport, which indicates there’s an issue with the registration of the tipping action. Others have both calibration and registration issues.

I believe, but this is my personal opinion, that the quality of the materials may be the basis of these problems
I have a professional Delta-ohm rain gauge, not in use at the moment, at least until next spring, but which, internally, and especially with regard to the collection and tipping bucket system, is frighteningly more strong, robust and apparently professional, probably the extreme temperature variations also due to the black color, can trigger inevitable deformations of the plastics that certainly have a negative impact on performance over time.

Sorry for the OT

M.

[mauro63]

Yesterday's report, another day of overcast skies and few interesting situations

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M.

[Kallo78]

Today since recently

[Kallo78]

Report of yesterday

[mauro63]

Yesterday's report

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[mauro63]

Yesterday's report

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[mauro63]

Yesterday's report

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M.

[Kallo78]

Report of yesterday
I have changed wh31 ep to the Siap for a few days, they put one with filter previously aligned to the other sensors on the field. As soon as possible I check the heights because, although we talk about cents, you notice a different behavior than before

[mauro63]

Yesterday's report

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M.

[Kallo78]

Yesterday’s report. There is a new playmate, the RAD14

[mauro63]

Yesterday’s report. There is a new playmate, the RAD14

Congratulations Marco, great choice, a great competitor

Mine yesterday's report

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M.

[Kallo78]

Yesterday’s data, a busy day with the arrival of a cold front at night (clearly more reactive Apogee) and strong wind and rain until mid-afternoon. Some possible measurement wetbulb on Apogee that has sht35 discovered. I’m curious to see the Rad today with sun. In my opinion it will amaze us. Always good reference SmartCellino and its main rival, the PRO3!

[mauro63]

Yesterday's report

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M.

[Kallo78]

Yesterday’s day marked by a first part with "warm" winds precursors of the change that occurred in the evening when the winds turned from NW and temperatures dropped. Excellent performance of all screens, in the graphs you can see their different time constants.

[mauro63]

Yesterday's report

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M.

[Jasper3012]

Yesterday’s day marked by a first part with "warm" winds precursors of the change that occurred in the evening when the winds turned from NW and temperatures dropped. Excellent performance of all screens, in the graphs you can see their different time constants.

RAD14 seems to respond a bit more slowly.

[Kallo78]

Yesterday’s day marked by a first part with "warm" winds precursors of the change that occurred in the evening when the winds turned from NW and temperatures dropped. Excellent performance of all screens, in the graphs you can see their different time constants.

RAD14 seems to respond a bit more slowly.

Yes, in these first days of tests I can say that at the level of reactivity the RAD14 seems a little slower

[mauro63]

Report from yesterday, a day characterized by rain, almost always overcast skies but, above all, by powerful winds from the northern quadrants, quite unusual, in terms of speed, for my areas.
Despite the continuous variations in conditions, the high ventilation has made the data uniform between Pro and Siap.

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M.

[Kallo78]

The day moves yesterday.
Rain and strong wind during the night and three distinct "changes of wind" during the rest of the time where you can see the different reaction of the systems. There was a battle between the wind from NE (warmer and drier) and that from NW cooler because it flows on the cold plain

[Kallo78]

Report of yestarday
Merry Christmas to all

[Jasper3012]

Report of yestarday
Merry Christmas to all

The response time of the Apogee is really impressive, very visible in the early night period.

Merry Christmas!

[Kallo78]

It confirms. With all the air that he sucks always arrives much earlier than others both uphill and downhill. I think, as Toby said, the sht35 naked inside it will not last long but in this first month of use I am personally very satisfied

[mauro63]

Yesterday's report, high ventilation evens out the data, homothermy and lack of rapid transients helps in this sense

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Best wishes to the entire forum

M.