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Title: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on September 04, 2020, 11:36:05 PM
With Oklahoma City TV weathermen and women sensationalizing lows in the mid 40s next week, it's time to start the Fall-Winter 2020-21 forum.  It may even snow in the Oklahoma panhandle with record lows elsewhere in Oklahoma.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/wxnextweek.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on September 05, 2020, 09:04:11 AM
Thanks for the thread. Not too soon either. Snow forecast in WY.
Our highs Northern KS on Sunday 101, Tuesday 40s.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: BKS97 on September 05, 2020, 10:28:46 AM
We’ll have a taste of fall here this coming week with lows in the 30s and frost forecast in northern Minnesota.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: WXMal4 on September 05, 2020, 11:31:59 AM
It is fall already - this is the first taste of the really cold weather to come. Looking at the NOAA long range forecasts, it will be getting cooler by the week.

Mal
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on September 08, 2020, 10:27:15 PM
Incredible satellite image of the West Coast today. It is hard to believe the extent of these fires.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ValentineWeather on September 22, 2020, 09:15:14 AM
JerryG had the tropical storm come in last night.  Looks like power went out about the time winds picked up and heavy rain was occurring here was the last data reported at 2 am.  Sent an email and no response so power likely still out this morning.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on September 23, 2020, 02:15:28 AM
During Tuesday morning, much of the eastern half of Oklahoma benefitted well from the outer band of Tropical Storm Beta with a bunch of rain amounts going over 1 inch.  From being near the west end of it, I only got .36".   But the opposite side of town the westside was yet closer to the very fringe line with one location only getting .06".  Interesting how that goes.  Very nice near normal sunny early fall weather coming for the next 10 days. 

(https://stillwaterweather.com/images/tpbeta.png)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on September 25, 2020, 05:26:10 PM

50 degree temperature range today. 44 F to 94 F
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on October 14, 2020, 08:47:40 PM
Crops are in and fall colors are starting to show.

First image from Aug 21, second from Oct 8th

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on October 14, 2020, 09:11:55 PM
Quite a dramatic change in those photos.

Around here, first frosts have occurred but the killing frost is supposed to be coming up in a few days.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on October 15, 2020, 01:31:05 PM
We are supposed to get temps in the upper 20s overnite in the Chicago area, not hard freeze yet. I still have to decide whether to pull the tomatoes this afternoon or not. Cool and rainy weather coming up for the next week. Probably not worth trying to keep them going.  Overall it wasn't a great year for them, although the ones we did get were very good. The carrots did OK but they took a long time to get going. The pepper plants we bought turned out to be jalapenos, what a surprise, the neighbor really enjoyed them. Those two plants did better than anything else we planted this year.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on October 16, 2020, 02:05:14 AM
https://www.noaa.gov/media-release/us-winter-outlook-cooler-north-warmer-south-with-ongoing-la-nina
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on October 17, 2020, 11:27:02 AM


That article and those maps are depressing. From Kansas and Nebraska through the SW and W US are already dry, and this forecast looks to continue that trend.

I know here in the Plains we have been caught in what I best can describe as a rut. Not even a hint of moisture.

Comment from the more knowledgeable regarding the current "pattern" over the country as a whole and the West in particular? Would be interesting to hear from you.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on October 20, 2020, 09:23:17 AM
Yikes, parts of Minn are looking at 3 to 5 inches of snow today.
NWS report from Twin Cities/Chanhassen MN:

Issued at 400 AM CDT Tue Oct 20 2020

A snowfall of 1 inch or greater in the Twin Cities typically
doesn`t occur for another month (this would be only the 10th time
since the late 1800`s that it`s happened in the Twin Cities before
October 21st). And, if the MSP airport measures more than 3.0
inches today, the daily record dating back to October 1916 will be
shattered...

Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on October 20, 2020, 09:39:03 AM
Should start here anytime.

One of the earliest large snows on record. So much for global warming.  (insert emoji here)

Des Moines had 7 in places yesterday.

I did not get my Christmas lights up, or my rain gauge heater in.  Hopefully it will warm up enough to get both done.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on October 20, 2020, 09:18:44 PM
4-5 here

one area had 8. 

More expected Thursday. One of the earliest snows ever.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on October 21, 2020, 09:07:44 AM
Not really weather related but last week I was in Cleveland to visit my dad.
Have not seen fall colors in over 30 years.
Holy Crap :shock:
Man I forgot how beautiful it was. It wasn't quite peaking yet, probably this week but man, just awesome.
OK, back to weather. :-)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on October 21, 2020, 04:25:04 PM
Not really weather related but last week I was in Cleveland to visit my dad.
Have not seen fall colors in over 30 years.
Holy Crap :shock:
Man I forgot how beautiful it was. It wasn't quite peaking yet, probably this week but man, just awesome.
OK, back to weather. :-)
Funny you say that, but my one brother and I are now long since "westerners" but grew up in PA and OH (as we've chatted about) and every year we'd try to fly back east to visit my mom and other brother specifically at this time to hopefully catch the fall colors. Haven't done it since we lost my mom, that was last "century", so not as long as you, but been about 23 years for me. Always a good time and definitely missed.  :sad:
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on October 23, 2020, 07:45:42 PM
Don't like the weather? Wait a minute.

Yesterday at 1:00 am the Chicago area was at 44° F. Today at 6:30 pm we are at 43° F. Big deal? In between we went up to 78° F and received 3.83" rain. Forecast for overnite is 34° F.

At least it wasn't the 7" of snow that my sister in Minnesota got.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on October 23, 2020, 10:28:15 PM
More snow this weekend

Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on October 24, 2020, 02:51:27 PM
Snow on the ground in N. Dakota and Minnesota today. Fargo is the dark area in the center of the image.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on October 25, 2020, 09:08:40 PM
Winter storm watches in October are rare here:

WINTER STORM WATCH Out includes OKC Metro

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Norman OK
327 PM CDT Sun Oct 25 2020

...Periods of Freezing Rain and Sleet Likely Late Tonight Through
Early Wednesday...

Logan-Payne-Caddo-Canadian-Oklahoma-Lincoln-Grady-McClain-
Cleveland-Kiowa-Jackson-Tillman-Comanche-Cotton-Hardeman-Foard-
Wilbarger-Wichita-Knox-Baylor-Archer-
Including the cities of Guthrie, Stillwater, Anadarko, Hinton,
Yukon, Concho, El Reno, Mustang, Oklahoma City, Chandler, Stroud,
Prague, Meeker, Davenport, Wellston, Chickasha, Tuttle, Purcell,
Newcastle, Blanchard, Norman, Moore, Hobart, Snyder, Altus,
Frederick, Lawton, Walters, Temple, Quanah, Crowell, Vernon,
Sheppard AFB, Wichita Falls, Munday, Knox City, Seymour,
Archer City, Holliday, Lakeside City, and Scotland
327 PM CDT Sun Oct 25 2020

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY EVENING THROUGH
WEDNESDAY MORNING...

* WHAT...Significant icing possible. Total ice accumulations of
one tenth to four tenths of an inch possible.

* WHERE...Portions of central and southwest Oklahoma and
northern Texas.

* WHEN...From Monday evening through Wednesday morning.

* IMPACTS...Power outages and tree damage are likely due to the
ice. Travel could be nearly impossible. The hazardous
conditions could impact the morning or evening commute.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Freeze conditions could kill crops, other
sensitive vegetation and possibly damage unprotected outdoor
plumbing.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

Slow down and use caution while traveling. Prepare for possible
power outages.

And then big 3 to 4"+ rainfall amounts for much of Oklahoma by Thursday:  I'll believe them when I see them.  If this pans out, it's great news for holding off the drought from intensifying entering the drier winter months.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on October 25, 2020, 09:59:38 PM
TV meteorologist Emily Sutton from Oklahoma City discusses the storm for 19 minutes on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/emilyrsutton/videos/827655527972501 (https://www.facebook.com/emilyrsutton/videos/827655527972501)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on October 26, 2020, 09:07:11 AM
Comments from Chicago area forecaster Tom Skilling:

Another blanket of snow whitened areas from the Plains to the upper Midwest on Sunday. Accumulations in excess of 6 inches were reported across parts of South Dakota and Nebraska. Two to 6 inches fell from northwest Iowa to Upper Michigan. The snow across the continental U.S. is well above normal for late October. On average, only 3.3% of the country has snow this time of year, mostly at higher elevations. On Sunday, snow covered 19.2% of the nation. Cold air will remain in place heading into midweek, but a major shift in upper level wind flow is due to sweep across the region by Friday. Temperatures are expected to rise above normal across all but the South and Northeast by Halloween. Forecasts through early November advertise mild weather, with daytime temps in the 50’s and 60s for the Chicago area.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on October 26, 2020, 12:39:28 PM
Winter storm watch turned into an ice storm warning here. It started around 3:30 am with rumbles of thunder.   Temperature at 11:30 am is barely above freezing at 32.5 with light freezing rain.  Ice appears trying to accumulate on roofs.  Things could deteriorate as temperature is expected to fall to 31 by this evening.  My weather station isn't freezing up for now.

Unfortunately,  temperatures are running a few degrees colder than originally in forecast.  Short-range models end the heavier precipitation later this evening and keep showers and drizzle going until heavier round of winter precipitation moves in by Tuesday morning. Temperatures will be key heading through Tues. night into Wed. afternoon when warming above freezing is expected.

Updated forecast shows western part of Oklahoma City metro getting .5 to 1 inch of ice, which would be considered catastrophic from damage.  Leaves still on trees won't help matters.  Fortunately, only .10" to .25" in the forecast for here, but enough to possibly cause issues.   Photo below snapped at 11:30 am Monday.

(http://okie.world/photos/icestormoct26.JPG)

Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on October 26, 2020, 06:43:35 PM
Funny to hear you guys talk about this winter stuff.
89 here today with 102 heat index.
Seems like every year it takes longer and longer for the cool weather to get here.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on October 26, 2020, 07:56:38 PM
Wave 1 is over with as of 5pm.  The freezing rain let up fairly soon after temp went below freezing.  So ice didn't accumulate much on the trees.   However, the same can't be said for much of the Oklahoma City area.  Tree branches are down and many 1000s of people are without power.   Wave 2 with more freezing rain starts Tuesday morning. .30 inch of ice in forecast for Stillwater.  That much could cause trouble.  Wave 3 comes in Wednesday.  Thankfully, temps are expected to be above freezing then.

Neighbor's tree doesn't look too bad after wave 1.

(http://okie.world/photos/neighborstree.jpg)

   
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on October 26, 2020, 08:09:39 PM
Ice on trees is bad, ice on trees with leaves still on them is really bad.   :shock:
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on October 26, 2020, 10:10:31 PM
Dews here have fallen off the table. What was mid 90's just a few days ago has now become a freeze watch with the trough axis moving through. The wind has died, clouds non-existent, and the dewpoint is a few degrees F above zero. Mid 30's tonight and maybe take one or two off that tomorrow.
I remember when we had seasons. :roll:
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: AWL on October 27, 2020, 08:52:48 AM
Ice storm really ramping up in central Oklahoma. Checked Oklahoma Gas and Electric, which supplies a lot of electricity for Oklahoma, and currently showing 101,383 116,111 201,135 without power. This is mostly clustered around the Oklahoma City area. Another .25'-.5' ice expected in that area today and tonight. A lot of the trees in the state have yet to drop their leaves which is really helping ice to accumulate and bring down tree limbs. I'm in the southern part of the state and currently hovering at 32.5°.
.
Doug
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on October 27, 2020, 02:57:05 PM
Unfortunately, my neighbor's tree didn't survive intact wave 2 as pictured.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/neighborstree2.jpg)

While taking the above photo, I heard snapping noises in the distance.  I drove to the direction where they were coming from, one street over, and came upon this:

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/manningstice.jpg)

Streets after the ice storm look even worse in Oklahoma City than in Stillwater.  OKC looks like a war zone.  The ice storm has left 65% of Stillwater without power as of 1:15 pm.  Fortunately, I'm not affected and hope it remains that way.   Temperature managed to make it barely above freezing by noon.  Meteorologists hope the temperature will be above freezing when wave 3 arrives Wednesday morning.  It's been the worst ice storm in Stillwater since 2003.

I came across another street blocked. I also drove to a street which has several blocks of sycamore trees lining both sides of the street to check it out.  I was glad the street wasn't blocked and the sycamores didn't appear to have major damage. 
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on October 27, 2020, 11:41:07 PM
Lost Internet service for a few hours Monday evening before being restored.  Electrical power is 91% restored in Stillwater as of 10:30pm.   Electrical workers are rare heroes.  I'd hate to imagine what they go through to fix the power, while a cold, sometimes freezing rain is going on.

In the above street photo in that area there were trees on the powerline and an electrical fire in the grass. They had to replace the line.  I was glad my street wasn't in a similar mess. But did have several limbs come down from my oak tree in the front yard, fortunately without them hitting anybody's house.  It's one of the tallest trees on the street, so heartbreaking.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on October 28, 2020, 08:08:37 AM
Trees really catch it in wind and ice. Glad it wasn't worse for you. I have seen ice take out a dozen electric poles in a row. Amazing. Take care.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on November 03, 2020, 03:13:00 AM
Trees really catch it in wind and ice. Glad it wasn't worse for you. I have seen ice take out a dozen electric poles in a row. Amazing. Take care.

This photo of last week's record setting ice storm in central Oklahoma was taken about 50 miles west of Oklahoma City. I was glad it was not near that bad in Stillwater.   As of Monday, ZERO out of 21,436 customers report outages in Stillwater.  However, in harder hit Oklahoma City, 71,790 were still without power as of late Monday.  For all of central Oklahoma, it's at least 115,328.  It may not be until Friday or later until power gets fully restored.  Crews from up to 10 states have been working on it.  I've lived in Stillwater since the 1960s, and the longest I was without power was overnight and into the afternoon.  It was on two occasions caused by a tornado that came through town.  Fortunately, house only slightly damaged both times.   The only time I can recall ice causing the power to go off was for a couple of hours at work in 2003.  It was at night and fun trying to read with the backup lights.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/icestorm.jpg)

This photo below has KWTV channel 9 of OKC storm tracker Val Castor showing how thick the ice, around 3", had accumulated on downed power lines. I believe the ice was close to a half inch thick in Stillwater, plenty enough to cause trouble.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/icefromlines.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on November 03, 2020, 04:17:27 PM
Photos are amazing. Glad it wasn't worse at your location.

Meanwhile, Great Plains diurnal ranges are impressive here.
Monday
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Tuesday
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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on November 09, 2020, 11:09:05 PM
I had shorts on this morning so I could clean the garage and pull the hoses etc.
No school.

Went to lunch. I do not think I have ever had that humid of a November day.

Then cliff.   3-7 inches coming soon. Rain collector heater going to get tested.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on November 11, 2020, 09:20:04 AM
November to remember.

From this morning's Chicago Tribune:

By Katherine Rosenberg-Douglas
Winds of change ended the November heat wave Tuesday with some severe storms, but Chicago first set records for warmth, including for seven consecutive days at 70 degrees or higher.
Well before noon, the city passed the record high for Nov. 10 of 71 degrees set in 1949, according to the National Weather Service.
As the cold front that broke the heat wave advanced Tuesday, strong storms started hitting northern Illinois mid-afternoon Tuesday, including some with 70 mph wind gusts, triggering tornado warnings. By midnight, temps were expected to drop to the 30s and 40s. The high Wednesday is forecast at a more typical 49.
There had never been so long a stretch of 70-plus-degree days so late in the year since the weather service began record keeping in the city in 1871, according to Todd Kluber, a meteorologist with the agency. At 10:12 a.m., when it warmed to 70 degrees at O’Hare International Airport, the city’s official weather recording site, 2020 made that historic first. Myriad other warm-weather records were set this week .
Among them, the weather service announced Tuesday, was a new record high minimum temperature. The previous record for Nov. 9 was 59 degrees in 1999, which was bested by this year’s daily low of 63 degrees. It also ties the record high minimum temperature for any November day, joining Nov. 6, 1924, and Nov. 7, 1975.

Yesterday I recorded a high of 74°, this morning it dropped to 34°. Yesterday evening we received .63" of rain and a lot of wind.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on November 11, 2020, 11:51:20 AM
Looks like one last blast of summer as Eta rolls in. Supposed to cross the peninsula very close to me but it could be a naked swirl by the time it gets here.  :-(
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: SlowModem on November 11, 2020, 06:21:35 PM
Batten down the hatches.  Looks like it's coming your way.  I hope all you get is rain and a little wind.  You'll be basking in the warm sunshine again soon.  :)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 02, 2020, 11:35:29 PM
On Wednesday, northwestern Oklahoma got quite a big snowstorm even by its winter time standards.  Up to 14" of snow fell. A few more inches may fall there.  I don't love snow, and glad I don't live in that part of the state.  14" of snow here would be a new daily record. But then I'd take that much snow over an ice storm anytime bad enough to wreck trees and take out power.  As the storm system moves out, no snow accumulation expected here, just a little more cold rain.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on December 03, 2020, 05:26:41 AM
Consecutive nights in the 30's here. Brrr. I'm ready for summer again. Yeah, I'm a wuse when it comes to cold weather, but 70's are on the way. :-)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on December 04, 2020, 08:38:45 AM
https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=GID&issuedby=GID&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1 (https://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=GID&issuedby=GID&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1)

Forecast for my CWA pretty well sums up how our weather has been lately. I found this forecaster's remarks refreshingly clear and honest about this unusual pattern we are in.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: BKS97 on December 04, 2020, 11:02:44 AM
The folks at NWS-Twin Cities summed it up this morning like this:

Weather Summary for Minnesota
National Weather Service Twin Cities/Chanhassen MN
340 AM CST Fri Dec 4 2020

Mild and dry weather for the next week, with no sign of winter in
sight.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 13, 2020, 02:55:06 PM
On Sunday, 12/13, Oklahoma City has had around 4" of snow, a record high amount for that day.  Former record was 1.8".  Photo below shows KFOR meteorologist Emily Sutton and the snow woman she made while reporting near NW Expressway in Oklahoma City.   She named it Marla, after the wife of chief KFOR meteorologist Mike Morgan.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/emilywithsnowwoman.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on December 13, 2020, 05:00:25 PM
Meanwhile, August 10-Dec 10 data for this area

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 13, 2020, 08:20:01 PM
Small dusting here today. But it only fell on the roads.

Des Moines had 5.5 the other day.

BK said it best. Chances of a white Christmas here is slim.
This is the last week of school before break-so either way I will be ok.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 13, 2020, 08:50:32 PM
The head of Stillwater Emergency Management Agency gave a short 6 minute Facebook Live tour of the snow in Stillwater this morning.     https://www.facebook.com/StwSema/videos/1818547061628754 (https://www.facebook.com/StwSema/videos/1818547061628754)

The well travelled streets were mostly slushy.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Charlie Scott on December 14, 2020, 09:13:57 AM
It has been raining like crazy for the last week. I saw on climacell weather that next week is going to rain as well. I hope it stops before Christmas.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 14, 2020, 06:23:19 PM
Photo shows how much it snowed in Oklahoma on Sunday up to 8 inches.  It snowed everywhere, except in the southeast part.  Oklahoma City has had more snow in December than a bunch of northern cities, such as Chicago and Minneapolis.  Yet, more snow is expected Tuesday with amounts up to 4 or 5".  Snow on snow events are kinda unusual.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/snowdec13.jpg)



Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 14, 2020, 10:06:13 PM
10 degrees. Lowest temp this fall/winter.  Warming to 40's this week
May have snow next week.  All good.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on December 14, 2020, 11:07:19 PM
+ 4 here Monday morning. Might get a few flakes in the next 24 hrs. Hope so. It is so dry
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 15, 2020, 04:42:20 PM
These are the type of snowstorms I prefer, where it's warm enough to keep the streets and sidewalks wet, but snow can coat the yards and still be beautiful.  Temp is right around 32 even freezing here.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/snowdec15.jpg)

Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 15, 2020, 05:14:17 PM
love it when it only snows on the grass
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on December 15, 2020, 06:48:22 PM
This is why I live in Tucson.  :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv87XqV-Wio
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 16, 2020, 07:41:38 PM
According to Mike Morgan, KFOR's chief meteorologist, for the 1st time in recorded history, since 1891, OKC has had separate winter storms with 3"+ total snowfall within 72 hours.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 17, 2020, 11:32:51 PM
For some more current rare Oklahoma winter weather phenomena, tiny Arnett, OK, located not far from the border with the Texas Panhandle,  has already had 32.3" of snow, which is far more than many northern cities has had, so far, such as Chicago and Bismarck, ND.  Denver, too.  On the other hand, the same snow storm that dumped a lot on northwestern Oklahoma went on to dump 45" of snow or more in the state of New York. From now through Christmas, no more big snow storms are expected in Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 18, 2020, 01:46:37 PM
We have zero snow. Does not look like we will have a white Christmas.

May get snow-chances are low. If we do, it could be gone by next Friday....Oh well.
We will pay for it someday.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 19, 2020, 10:20:48 PM
We have zero snow. Does not look like we will have a white Christmas.

May get snow-chances are low. If we do, it could be gone by next Friday....Oh well.
We will pay for it someday.

No white Christmas here, either, to no surprise.  At least we're somewhat more likely to get a white New Year's Eve.  My New Year's party plans have been disrupted more than once because of that.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on December 20, 2020, 10:56:53 AM
This is why I live in Tucson.  :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv87XqV-Wio
Thank you thank you thank you! That was freakin hilarious watching that girl trying to make it up that sidewalk. Got tears in my eyes.  :grin:
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on December 20, 2020, 04:25:44 PM
This is why I live in Tucson.  :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv87XqV-Wio
Thank you thank you thank you! That was freakin hilarious watching that girl trying to make it up that sidewalk. Got tears in my eyes.  :grin:
You're welcome. She is priceless with her steadfast determination! I LMAO as well..more than once...
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on December 22, 2020, 09:37:29 AM
Another sputtering start to winter in Chicago. Synopsis from Tom Skilling:

Pleasant Tuesday precedes incoming cold front
Satellite imagery late Monday showed a disturbance making landfall along the Pacific Northwest, lashing coastal areas with heavy rain and high winds. This system is to play a major role in our weather mid to late week. Tuesday promises to be pleasant by comparison. Winds will be much lighter than the 35-mph gusts Monday at Midway Airport while temps again rise into the 40s. The wave over the Northwest is forecast to amplify east of the Rockies midweek, producing a major storm system over the upper Great Lakes. Much colder air is to sweep into our area as a front passes midday Wednesday.
Christmas Eve will feature our first subfreezing high temps of the season. The weather pattern will remain progressive, meaning the cold snap will only last about 48 hours before moving on.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 22, 2020, 03:57:18 PM
Just had a winter storm watch thrown out at us.

Looks like a white christmas after all.

WIND, COLD, AND SNOW COULD IMPACT TRAVEL ON WEDNESDAY THROUGH
WEDNESDAY NIGHT...
.A significant change in the weather is coming on Wednesday. Winter
Storm Watches, Warnings, and Winter Weather Advisories cover most
of the area for Wednesday into Wednesday night. The Winter Storm
Warning runs from west central into central Minnesota. The Winter
Storm Watch is south and east of that and extends through the Twin
Cities metro area. A Winter Weather Advisory is situation to the
south and east of the watch and extends to the Iowa border and
into a portion of west central Minnesota. Blizzard conditions
could develop in open areas of western and central Minnesota.
Strong northwest winds of 35 to 45 mph will develop Wednesday,
with gusts over 50 mph possible in western Minnesota. Temperatures
will start out around 30 degrees, and fall throughout the day,
going below zero overnight.
In addition to the wind and cold, at least 1 to 3 inches of snow
is expected across the entire area, with amounts of 4 to 6 inches
north of Interstate 94 and west of the Saint Croix River. Any
snow that develops will lead to reduced visibility and impact
holiday travel. Please continue to check the forecast for updates,
especially if you have travel plans Wednesday or Wednesday night.
...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH
WEDNESDAY EVENING...
* WHAT...Heavy snow possible. Total snow accumulations of 3 to 5
inches possible. Winds could gust as high as 50 mph.
* WHERE...Portions of central, east central and south central
Minnesota.
* WHEN...From Wednesday morning through Wednesday evening.
* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. Areas of blowing
snow could significantly reduce visibility. The hazardous
conditions could impact the evening commute. Gusty winds could
bring down tree branches. The cold wind chills as low as 20
below zero could cause frostbite on exposed skin in as little
as 30 minutes.
* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Near blizzard conditions possible
Wednesday afternoon and early evening.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on December 22, 2020, 04:03:44 PM
Yikes!!!     
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 22, 2020, 06:08:02 PM
not so bad until my wife says "you need to get X tomorrow"  oh joy
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on December 22, 2020, 07:44:09 PM
"A significant change in the weather is coming on Wednesday."

Yeah. Instead of warm and dry it will blowing like hell and cold and dry. Dust that blew north today comes back tomorrow.

Not complaining, you understand. I like drought. I do. The brown landscape appeals to me.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on December 22, 2020, 07:55:36 PM
Misery loves company. Still "exceptional" here, no end in sight. I would not be the least surprised if it continues into next summer's monsoon. And after this past year's driest and hottest on record....
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 23, 2020, 08:37:08 AM
upgraded to winter storm watch

Blizzard in some places.

Going from the best fall so far to possible 8-10 inches in just a few hours.


...HIGHLY IMPACTFUL SYSTEM TO BRING A LIST OF HAZARDS TODAY AND TONIGHT...
.A significant change in the weather is coming this afternoon.
A Blizzard Warning is in effect today and tonight west of a line
from Mille Lacs Lake to Waseca, including the western Twin Cities
metro. A Winter Storm Warning is in effect this afternoon and tonight
along I-35 from Faribault County north to Chisago and Kanabec
counties east to Barron County, including the remainder of the
Twin Cities metro. A Winter Weather Advisory is in effect from
this afternoon until tonight for Dunn and Pepin counties east to
Eau Claire and Ladysmith.
Snow will develop this morning across western Minnesota, with
light rain or drizzle farther east. Temperatures will start in the
30s but will plummet during the day following a cold front,
falling below zero overnight. This will turn the rain to heavy
snow very quickly early this afternoon across eastern Minnesota.
Wet conditions, heavy snow, and temperatures falling into the
teens will likely result in flash freeze with dangerous travel
conditions through tonight.
Snow will continue into this evening area wide, then taper off
after midnight. Total accumulation will range from 5 to locally 9
inches across east central Minnesota, 3 to 6 inches across western
Minnesota and west-central Wisconsin.
Strong northwest winds of 35 to 40 mph will develop behind the
cold front. Gusts of 60 mph are possible across western
Minnesota, with 50 to 55 mph gusts farther east. Considerable
blowing and drifting snow and whiteout conditions are expected.
Travel will become very dangerous today and tonight. Wind chills
dropping to 20 below to 35 below zero will be especially dangerous
to those that may become stranded.
...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 1 PM THIS
AFTERNOON TO 6 AM CST THURSDAY...
* WHAT...Heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations of 5 to 9
inches. Winds gusting as high as 55 mph.
* WHERE...Kanabec County.
* WHEN...From 1 PM Wednesday to 6 AM CST Thursday.
* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. Widespread blowing
snow could significantly reduce visibility. The hazardous
conditions could impact the evening commute. Gusty winds could
bring down tree branches. The cold wind chills as low as 25
below zero could cause frostbite on exposed skin in as little
as 30 minutes.

Information:
If you must travel, keep an extra flashlight, food, and water in
your vehicle in case of an emergency.
The latest road conditions for the state you are calling from can
be obtained by calling 5 1 1. Road conditions can also be found
at 511mn.org for Minnesota or 511wi.gov for Wisconsin.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 23, 2020, 12:28:37 PM
Before
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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 23, 2020, 12:51:38 PM
And so it begins-My rain gauge heater will get its first real test

Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 23, 2020, 02:05:42 PM
1 hour
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 23, 2020, 09:07:45 PM
8 hours

Hard to tell how much snow with the wind we have. Guessing around 5-6. Crystal airport claims a 60 mph gust. Mine at school was 46. Southwest Minnesota again is getting the worst winds. Martin county has issued a civil emergency to retrieve stranded people off the roads. National guard activated.

Not doing anything until tomorrow morning. I will clean out at least one other drive. But it will still be windy.

Should stop snowing soon, but winds keep blowing.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on December 24, 2020, 08:56:54 AM
Windy day yesterday.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 24, 2020, 02:00:29 PM
Helped clean out 7 driveways with my snow blower today. I am exhausted.


ended up with around 7 inches. Some places are bare because of the blowing snow.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 24, 2020, 11:49:46 PM
Helped clean out 7 driveways with my snow blower today. I am exhausted.


ended up with around 7 inches. Some places are bare because of the blowing snow.

So did your heated rain gauge check out okay?
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 24, 2020, 11:52:52 PM
Windy day yesterday.

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From that cold front, the wind here gusted up to 34 mph, for the most ever, so far, this December. In OKC, it got up to 44 mph.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on December 25, 2020, 07:45:49 AM
From 80 yesterday afternoon to 34 this morning.
Expecting our first hard freeze tonight.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: BKS97 on December 25, 2020, 09:18:31 AM
One down, one on the way. . .

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: PaulMy on December 25, 2020, 09:26:57 AM
Christmas Eve started with light snow, and this morning woke to a beautiful and quiet Christmas sight BloomSky | Komoka, CA - Realtime weather and picture with daily timelapse! (https://map.bloomsky.com/weather-stations/gqBxp6apnJSnoJim)
26 cm for my CoCoRaHS reporting.


Merry Christmas
Paul
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on December 25, 2020, 09:42:33 AM
Christmas Eve started with light snow, and this morning woke to a beautiful and quiet Christmas sight BloomSky | Komoka, CA - Realtime weather and picture with daily timelapse! (https://map.bloomsky.com/weather-stations/gqBxp6apnJSnoJim)
26 cm for my CoCoRaHS reporting.


Merry Christmas
Paul
Family in northern Ohio all sending pics of a white xmas too.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 29, 2020, 12:16:56 AM
The final days of 2020 weather in Oklahoma looks to be shaping up as quite rainy or snowy in much of it.  A couple of lows will be moving in and drawing up a lot of gulf moisture and appears difficult to gauge.  So it's interesting how two chief TV weathermen from Oklahoma City have different outlooks of how the precipitation will fall and by how much by Friday:

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/channel4rain.jpg)

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/channel9rain.jpg)

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/channel4snow.jpg)

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/channel9snow.jpg)




Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on December 29, 2020, 09:38:58 AM
Supposed to snow here after 1pm.  5 inches.

Fluffy, not the wetter snow. So I can take some of mine and blow it on my neighbors driveway.  :grin:

Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on December 31, 2020, 04:20:30 PM
NWS Forecasters Borchardt/Kluber from the Romeoville (Chicago Area) Office are trying to nail down our interesting weather maker due in tomorrow:

As the freezing line inches northward Friday afternoon,
freezing rain and the wintry mix should convert to "plain" rain for
areas generally along and south of I-88 (though the exact location
may not be known until, well, it happens)
.

With temps bouncing around freezing it will end up being an interesting day with just about everything that can fall from the sky coming at us. At least tonite should be quiet.

Happy New Year to everyone!
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on December 31, 2020, 04:59:40 PM
NWS Forecasters Borchardt/Kluber from the Romeoville (Chicago Area) Office are trying to nail down our interesting weather maker due in tomorrow:

As the freezing line inches northward Friday afternoon,
freezing rain and the wintry mix should convert to "plain" rain for
areas generally along and south of I-88 (though the exact location
may not be known until, well, it happens)
.

With temps bouncing around freezing it will end up being an interesting day with just about everything that can fall from the sky coming at us. At least tonite should be quiet.

Happy New Year to everyone!
When in doubt, just be honest. We don't know! :-)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 31, 2020, 07:21:54 PM
WINTER STORM WARNING For Much of Oklahoma

Details:
...Impactful snow and ice accumuation expected late today through
early Friday...
...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO NOON
CST FRIDAY...
* WHAT...Freezing rain with ice accumulations up to a quarter
inch, some sleet, and snow accumulations 2 to 4 inches. Blowing
snow may reduce visibility in western, northern Oklahoma, and
western north Texas.
* WHERE...Portions of central and southwest Oklahoma and
northern Texas.
* WHEN...From 6 PM this evening to noon CST Friday.
* IMPACTS...Plan on slippery road conditions. The hazardous
conditions could impact New Years Eve travelers.

Pink is winter storm.  Blue is winter storm advisory.
(https://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/png/oun.png)

TV channel 5, OKC, calls for only a trace to an inch of snow Friday morning for Stillwater.  But channel 4 puts it at 3.3".  Near blizzard conditions may be in store for the southwest quarter of the Oklahoma.

This is a look at NAM's hi-def reflectivity forecast of the storm. A beautiful comma shape with heavy precipitation across all of the very wet east side.

(https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/models/nam3km/2020122918/nam3km_mslp_pcpn_frzn_scus_60.png)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on December 31, 2020, 07:48:15 PM
This is going to be a very interesting start to the year. Texas to the Northeast coast all affected by something.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on December 31, 2020, 11:29:31 PM
Good! Weatherman Mike Morgan at  OKC TV channel 4 thinks Oklahoma City will just barely escape from a major ice storm.  Things should soon change over to snow around midnight.  Central Oklahoma, including Stillwater,  may get around 4" of it. Temp slowly falling toward freezing here.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on January 01, 2021, 11:09:37 AM
Read this quote from our local NWS this morning regarding mid January:

potentially a broad cyclonic flow impacts the central and
eastern US


What effects will a broad cyclonic flow have? More active weather?

Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on January 01, 2021, 02:33:29 PM
Around 4" of snow in Stillwater on New Year's Day pictured.  Oklahoma City got 5" for the most snow ever on New Year's Day.  Tulsa got rain, rather than snow.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/snowjan1-21.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on January 01, 2021, 04:42:13 PM
At about 10:00 this morning we started to get a lite snow. By 11:00 it was ice pellets and mist. By noon it was freezing rain and mist. Now it is just rain. What, no graupel? I guess there is still time for that as this thing is still moving north and is expected to turn back to snow. Maybe an inch.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: BKS97 on January 02, 2021, 04:03:04 PM
This morning's freezing fog hung on until well into the afternoon before it lifted, but the wait was worth it.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: BKS97 on January 08, 2021, 09:23:10 AM
For a week or so now, we have had days of freezing fog and "riming" (frosting) of trees and other surfaces.  The NWS Duluth office gave us a science lesson this morning:

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on January 10, 2021, 03:16:58 PM
Dear Texas,

Leave winter to the professionals.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErYwfeHXYAI2wUY?format=jpg&name=900x900)

In 4wd,
Minnesotans
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on January 14, 2021, 10:57:03 AM
Put out a weather email to the staff. Saying it will be slick the next few days and the potential for 6-8 inches of snow on the way.


There is the longest list of teachers not here today. I will never do that again!!!!!
The principal said "maybe send that to me first...."

Tomorrow is snow. We will see what happens.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Aardvark on January 14, 2021, 11:17:08 AM
We are in the blizzard warning as well 2 to 7 inches possible, fortunately I am retired, but I still get that uneasy ingrained feeling of needing to fight through the streets, hills and all that to school or needing to get up at 5 am to watch to see if school has been canceled.   The wife's college is online for her classes, so she doesn't need to go, as long as the power stays, we are fine here.   

Never make snow angels in a dog park.   No, I do not speak from experience.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on January 16, 2021, 10:22:11 AM
The snow we had was VERY wet.

TV person said it was 6/1 ratio. 6 inches was 1 inch of rain.

Usually this time of year it is usually 10/1 or 15/1. 

It was a snow that only the healthy should be shoveling. It plugged my snowblower. I had someone come over and push back the slush plies at the end of the driveway.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 16, 2021, 06:22:43 PM
We may actually see some of the "R" word come Tuesday!! I know not to get my hopes up as I've heard it several times over several months and have gotten squat. I sit at 0.44" since August and not much even before that. If we do get some decent "R" word, it'll do very little to alleviate our "exceptional" drought status, but better than a sharp stick in the eye I guess... :sad:
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on January 17, 2021, 10:04:23 AM
good comic here

https://www.gocomics.com/arloandjanis/2021/01/17
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: gwwilk on January 17, 2021, 10:29:40 AM
good comic here

https://www.gocomics.com/arloandjanis/2021/01/17
Indeed!  It illustrates how the media wish to commandeer our thoughts and lives.  FWIW I'm having none of it, "Not that anybody cares" a la the Goth episode of TBBT!
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on January 17, 2021, 11:01:55 AM
naming storms is stupid

4 inches here sometimes does not get removed.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 18, 2021, 07:10:11 PM
 :shock: \:D/ The latest GFS and Euro models are showing at least 1.6" of rain for southern AZ by this time next week. I haven't seen that kind of rain since the entire month of July...(our "supposed" monsoon season :roll:), and even that was still less than what's progged just this week alone. However, considering the multiple blown forecasts so far this winter...  ](*,)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 18, 2021, 07:49:05 PM

Chief, if you're aware obviously never mind, but I just noticed that the pressure on your display thingy is waaaay too low...like almost an entire inch of Hg.

https://forecast.weather.gov/obslocal.php?warnzone=MNZ060&local_place=2%20Miles%20W%20Plymouth%20MN&zoneid=CST&offset=21600
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on January 18, 2021, 08:22:32 PM
no. I didnt know.   I should be able to fix it with WD.


Update-fixed on both WD and Rainwise net

Thank you.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 23, 2021, 06:08:11 PM
Just read the latest AFD here, we may actually see snow Tue. morning all the way down to the valley floor. I'm guessing this occurs about every three years or so, maybe not even that often. I don't care what it is, as long as it precip...I got a whopping 0.04" outta the last one.  :roll:
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on January 24, 2021, 05:43:58 AM
Not even close to being as dry as you but this winter's La Nina is keeping things pretty dry over here.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on January 24, 2021, 05:35:31 PM
And here as well.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 24, 2021, 11:39:12 PM
Well, this is sure something you never see in my neck of the woods...an occluded front. Looks to be a busy day tomorrow with a good shot at T-storms and then Tuesday with valley floor snow looking even more likely. Pinch me.... :grin:

https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/basicwx/94fndfd.gif
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 25, 2021, 01:49:59 AM
Wow, I'm going to continue to babble about this storm... fantastic cold core, leaning towards a negative tilt, certainly the best I've seen in years.  =D>

 https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=global-northamerica-09-24-1-100-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on January 25, 2021, 10:31:00 AM
4" of snow and counting as of 9:30 a.m.
Good  moisture content. Measured .17" for 1.5" this morning at 7 a.m.

This area needs this storm.

Final total 7.5" .76" liquid equivalent
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 25, 2021, 05:42:00 PM
Hot of the press...


 Now for the more immediate threat looming for southeastern
 Arizona. At this time, a strong to severe line of thunderstorms
 (QLCS) is rapidly advancing from west to east. This line will
 likely produce winds of 50-60 mph, small accumulating hail, and a
 rapid changeover to moderate to heavy snow for elevations as low
 as 2500ft. This seems reasonable given its already snowing to
 roughly 2000-2500ft in portions of Phoenix.
The line of storms
 should move through Tucson by 6pm.

Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on January 25, 2021, 05:43:41 PM
Hot of the press...


 Now for the more immediate threat looming for southeastern
 Arizona. At this time, a strong to severe line of thunderstorms
 (QLCS) is rapidly advancing from west to east. This line will
 likely produce winds of 50-60 mph, small accumulating hail, and a
 rapid changeover to moderate to heavy snow for elevations as low
 as 2500ft. This seems reasonable given its already snowing to
 roughly 2000-2500ft in portions of Phoenix.
The line of storms
 should move through Tucson by 6pm.
I'm jealous.  :-(
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 25, 2021, 05:45:34 PM
Ha! I'm like a kid in a candy store!
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 26, 2021, 01:07:45 AM
4" of snow and counting as of 9:30 a.m.
Good  moisture content. Measured .17" for 1.5" this morning at 7 a.m.

This area needs this storm.

Final total 7.5" .76" liquid equivalent

WOW, the liquid moisture is really good. Great, we only picked up 2.1" so far in Valentine and .13" so 16:1 ratio. Cold however it was around 16° during the snow event.  Most of the snowfall was east and south.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 26, 2021, 01:08:14 AM
Ha! I'm like a kid in a candy store!

  [tup]
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 26, 2021, 02:23:05 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

https://weather.cod.edu/satrad/?parms=regional-southwest-09-24-1-100-1&checked=map&colorbar=undefined
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: AZmonsooncats on January 26, 2021, 03:38:57 AM
Wild Crazy Weather out there there in Phoenix there will probably be snow on the peaks around the valley after this storm.

2:20pm 38°F (H 49/L 38) Overcast and gloomy/Light rain 🌧⛈ Hum:84% Wind:WSW 5 G-40mph Baro: 29.78in Rain: 0.32in http://tinyurl.com/67zwnhq

NWS forecast: This Afternoon Showers and Breezy: 🌧  , Hi 49°F; Tonight: Shwrs Likely: 🌧 , Lo 39°F; Tuesday Chance Showers 🌧  then Mostly Sunny: , Hi 51°F; Tuesday Night Clear, 🌖 Lo 33°F Complete Forecast Details at: https://tinyurl.com/y3ympje5 #weather #fb

Nighttime shot of the cold core negatively tilted storm that brought, Thunder showers 🌩 heavy rain 🌧 , small hail, damaging winds 🌬 and even snow ❄  to lower elevations as temperatures plummeted in upper to mid 30s in the early afternoon on Monday in Phoenix   https://www.facebook.com/PepperRidgeNorthValleyWX #severeweather #fb

Jeanette
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on January 26, 2021, 08:48:59 AM
AZ-that looks wonderful. Amazing.

Saw reports of snow and graupel in Pasadena. Rare but neat. Also Mammoth Mountain is supposed to get 116 inches of snow!!!

Des Moines and Omaha got dumped on. A foot in some places. Waiting to see if Aardvark went outside to get a measurement.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: gwwilk on January 26, 2021, 09:10:09 AM
Always looking for records, our local newspaper published this snowfall chart:

(https://www.gwwilkins.org/temp-images/LincolnNE-Snowfalls.png)

It's the heaviest snowfall here ever in January, and the 3rd highest total since records were initiated.

Digging out is still a work in progress.  My HOA's snow removal contractor has yet to get to the walks and finish up the driveways here.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 26, 2021, 09:40:38 AM
WOW, Jerry nice moisture. We only got 2.5" new on top of the 1".  You guys are looking like the snowfall amounts in the Arizona mountainous communities.
 
chief-david, Flagstaff Arizona is the snowiest city in the USA above 60k population. They use to claim 100 inches a year.  Believe me guys Arizona is not all hot desert. I bow hunted on the North Kaibab and had low temps in the 20's in August.  Hawley Lake on the Apache Indian Reservation about 9,000 ft if memory serves was -40 below one year. Remember arctic fronts that far west doesn't happen. So this is real cold that was homegrown if you know what I mean. No Canadian visitors.   
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on January 26, 2021, 12:32:41 PM
From my sister south of Sierra Vista, AZ.  A treat for them. :-)

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 26, 2021, 07:07:32 PM
I got just a brief rain/snow mix about 1300 lcl today, but the 0.94" is just what the doctor ordered. Will it get us from under "exceptional" status, I doubt it, but a very welcome rain. Looks like more this weekend too!  =D>
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on January 28, 2021, 06:16:56 PM

Minus 11 for a 15 minute stretch around 2:20 a.m. That's pretty cold for us.

Also, because of my location/micro climate and the readings from neighboring stations whose data conflicts with mine, I get flagged on CWOP and MESOWEST. Nothing I can do about it I guess.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 28, 2021, 06:21:40 PM
Also, because of my location/micro climate and the readings from neighboring stations whose data conflicts with mine, I get flagged on CWOP and MESOWEST. Nothing I can do about it I guess.
Dew and temp... You've obviously been a very bad boy. [-X


 :-P
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on January 28, 2021, 07:03:36 PM
Also, because of my location/micro climate and the readings from neighboring stations whose data conflicts with mine, I get flagged on CWOP and MESOWEST. Nothing I can do about it I guess.
Dew and temp... You've obviously been a very bad boy. [-X


 :-P

Yep. kind of ticks me off because my readings are accurate as far as I can tell. Others? Maybe not so much or they are in heat islands or something.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on January 28, 2021, 07:17:10 PM
Oh, I hear ya...very much a  ](*,). Unfortunately the only way to "police" wx data be it a PWS or ASOS. I've said it a million times here, you're the best QC on the planet when it comes to your own PWS.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on January 29, 2021, 09:42:11 AM
Oh, I hear ya...very much a  ](*,). Unfortunately the only way to "police" wx data be it a PWS or ASOS. I've said it a million times here, you're the best QC on the planet when it comes to your own PWS.

Helps to have my concern re-affirmed here. I start doubting my data and its accuracy too easily. Want to have all those "thumbs up" and "OKs." I just crave perfection :roll:
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on January 29, 2021, 04:06:06 PM
Interesting weekend coming up for most of the country. Even mention of it turning into a Nor'easter early next week.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on January 31, 2021, 11:07:45 AM
I'm not sure of Mother Nature should be called for goal tending or for piling on.

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More than six inches on the ground and still snowing.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: BKS97 on February 02, 2021, 10:37:51 AM
So far this winter, we’ve only had a few mornings with subzero readings and no subzero cold spells. This forecast is expected to last well into the middle of next week, bringing morning lows near -20 here in central Minnesota and colder farther north.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 05, 2021, 06:26:00 PM
Mother natures revenge: https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=ecmwf_full&p=sfct&rh=2021020512&fh=loop&r=us_nc&dpdt=&mc=
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on February 05, 2021, 06:29:34 PM
And in contrast from today's AFD...

CLIMATE...Its been a warm start to February with the first four
 days of the month going into the record books as the warmest on
 record for Tucson with an average monthly temperature of 65.8
 degrees which is 11.8 degrees above normal to date. This is due
 in part by the warm daily lows which have been in the 50`s. In
 fact this is only the 2nd time on record, the other year being
 1935, that the first four days of February recorded lows in the
 50`s.
 
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 05, 2021, 06:42:36 PM
Yeah after all these years it's where the air is being pushed by the atmosphere. Being the artic is vacated it's probably warm at the north pole and someone will make a big deal of it. Da it's moved into the lower 48 finally.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on February 06, 2021, 08:25:01 PM
almost -10 here. Will be the coldest night of the season. Tomorrow high -3. This is the last gasp of cold air. Chances of any thing lie this later is slim. Just snow. March is the snowiest month.

Really a great winter.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on February 06, 2021, 08:36:08 PM
almost -10 here. Will be the coldest night of the season. Tomorrow high -3. This is the last gasp of cold air. Chances of any thing lie this later is slim. Just snow. March is the snowiest month.

Really a great winter.
I truly can't even imagine that kind of cold anymore. I haven't lived in a cold climate since I left the southern shore of Lake Erie in 1979 and could never see going back. I suppose it's all nothing more than acclimation.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on February 06, 2021, 08:59:20 PM
It takes a few years to get used to it. IF you have felt it before.  Those coming from warm only climates have a terrible time adjusting.  Like they did not know what it was like here.

It is the humidity in the summer that is really brutal.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on February 06, 2021, 09:04:30 PM
It is the humidity in the summer that is really brutal.
Another reason. Matter of fact, tops the list.  ;)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on February 06, 2021, 10:40:06 PM
house is popping tonight
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on February 06, 2021, 10:52:44 PM
house is popping tonight
Okay, I'll bite... contracting?
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on February 06, 2021, 10:54:31 PM
has to be. first time all season with this kind of cold.  THink it is the deck and a window.

House will be 5 years old in March.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: gwwilk on February 07, 2021, 07:38:01 AM
house is popping tonight
Look for tiny divots in a popcorn ceiling or bulges beneath the tape in drywall where over-stressed screw heads popped off.  I've got a bunch of those from years past.  None new, fortunately, and no 'popping' here any more in my 29 year old townhouse.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on February 07, 2021, 09:04:36 AM
I am sure we are fine. I had -18 at school and -16 at home. Which is really not any difference.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: gwwilk on February 07, 2021, 09:55:22 AM
I think it's a normal phenomenon as new stick-built construction 'settles in'.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 07, 2021, 04:43:20 PM
The Chicago area is also getting hit with some deep freeze temps and periodic snow falls although not as rough as further north and west.

Quote from the NWS Romeoville (Chicago) regarding the week coming up:

So, grab your favorite hat, gloves, heavy coat, and snow brush while forcing a smile on your face during this undeniably wintry week.

Borchardt

Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: BKS97 on February 08, 2021, 07:41:40 AM
Here's an interesting thing:  The hottest 2 days in our area in 2020 were June 7-8; the coldest days in 2021 (so far): Feb. 7-8, which fulfills this weather lore saying from The Old Farmer’s Almanac: “When it is hottest in June, it will be coldest in the corresponding days of the next February.”  www.almanac.com/content/weather-lore-calendar
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 08, 2021, 05:13:07 PM
Oklahoma City TV 5 weatherman Damon Lane writes that  Oklahoma City is now below freezing as of Monday morning.  Most likely opportunity to climb above freezing won't occur again until around Feb 19.   It's unusual for temps to stay below freezing longer than a week here any period during winter.  Lowest lows may venture down to near zero.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on February 08, 2021, 05:31:19 PM
78F today.   :-"
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 08, 2021, 08:56:00 PM
78F today.   :-"
I know how awful it can be.  That is the record high today set by my weather station in 2015.

Meanwhile, back to today, Monday, the weather hasn't been fit for man or beast in much of Oklahoma from mist and freezing drizzle making for a thin and dangerous sheet of ice on roads and sidewalks.  There was a 29 car pile up with at least 5 injured on an Oklahoma City bridge.  My Stillwater friend slipped and fell from the ice while walking to her car to get to work.  She never made it and spent the day recuperating at home and wonders if ribs were broken.

The most intense part of the cold spell won't arrive until Valentine's Day when highs will be in the mid to upper lower single digits.  Below zero temps may come yet. Thankfully, no major ice or snow storms expected.    Keep warm and be careful getting out in the frozen stuff.

https://www.news9.com/story/6021c65ecb704c0bdfcde96f/multiplevehicle-pileup-near-downtown-okc-leaves-at-least-5-people-injured (https://www.news9.com/story/6021c65ecb704c0bdfcde96f/multiplevehicle-pileup-near-downtown-okc-leaves-at-least-5-people-injured)

https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/update-freezing-mist-ices-roads-causes-wrecks-closes-schools/article_5bd2fa06-6a15-11eb-ba80-379fc5b92201.html (https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/update-freezing-mist-ices-roads-causes-wrecks-closes-schools/article_5bd2fa06-6a15-11eb-ba80-379fc5b92201.html)



   
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 11, 2021, 01:59:28 AM
Unbelievable at or near record breaking snow storm levels headed for all of Oklahoma at the end of Monday. I think the record depth here is around 13".   The lows are expected to dip below zero in Oklahoma City.  This is talking heavy duty climate change!  Maybe it won't turn out to be that bad.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/images/snowfeb2021.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 11, 2021, 11:46:08 AM
Feburrrary

So far this month the Chicago area has only had about 12 hours above freezing. Much of the time has been below 12°. My station has not recorded any percip for the month (the year for that matter) but unofficially there is over 12 inches of snow on the ground. We usually get snow that melts between events but it just keeps piling up. We currently are getting more lake effect snow. The coming week looks just as intense, snow every day or so and continued polar air.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 11, 2021, 06:41:04 PM
OKC TV weatherman Mike Morgan who has a reputation as a hyper says the lowest low in OKC will now be -17, down yesterday from -15.  -17 ties with the all time low for OKC.  But the National Weather Service indicates the period's low will be  -6.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/images/17below.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on February 12, 2021, 01:36:30 PM
OKC TV weatherman Mike Morgan who has a reputation as a hyper says the lowest low in OKC will now be -17, down yesterday from -15. 
Quote

I am 350 miles north northwest of you and our low forecast is minus 16 over the next 4 days. So maybe "hyper" is accurate description. On the other hand, cold is cold. Being hyper may save a life.

Stay warm.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: gwwilk on February 12, 2021, 01:53:41 PM
Here's a little historical perspective for the hysterical:

(https://www.gwwilkins.org/temp-images/USWxHx0212.png)

Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on February 12, 2021, 02:25:14 PM
Yup it is cold.  But not untypical for this time of year. -14 this morning. even colder come this weekend.   

Biggest issue is the small snow showers we get. They make it slick, salt does not work when it is that cold. Then car exhaust freezes to the pavement.

Later-the sun comes out and evaps everything. Good time to stay home.

It did the same thing Monday. My wife had a co-workers fiance' killed when his car ran off the road. 6 miles from home.



This morning there was this
Smith said early Friday, a pickup truck crashed along the wall of the Highway 77/Cedar Avenue bridge at the Minnesota River bridge in Bloomington.

(https://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/2021-02/800Hwy77CedarAveCrashFeb12-mndot.JPG) 

Damn lucky
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 12, 2021, 11:41:26 PM
Enough of the hype and teasing from Mother Nature.  Let's get this winter storm started and over with.  The teasing has been from light snow in Stillwater tonight.  All of Oklahoma under a winter storm warning except for the one most southeastern most county.  8 to 16" of snow for the majority of Oklahoma according to KOCO-5 OKC. For a low, hyper Mike  Morgan still says -17. (NWS differs.)  Temp not expected to get above freezing until Sat., the 20th.    As hyper OKC TV weatherman, Mike Morgan,  puts it, it's not extra special; it's of historic proportions.     The unusual extreme winter weather for this part of the country will reach far into Texas to Galveston. By Sunday, all of Texas at once may be below freezing.
 
So how bad is it really?  Ten years ago in a rare blizzard, Tulsa area got up to 21" of snow, but officially 14".  Tulsa had a record low of -12.  Oklahoma City got 12".   Low in OKC got to -5.

In Oklahoma City, there was the unforgettable Christmas Eve Blizzard of 2009.  Maybe the unforgettable Valentine's Day Blizzard of 2021 is shaping up.

WINTER STORM WARNING:

Areas Affected:
Alfalfa - Beckham - Blaine - Caddo - Canadian - Custer - Dewey - Ellis - Garfield - Grant - Harper - Kay - Kingfisher - Logan - Major - Noble - Oklahoma - Payne - Roger Mills - Washita - Woods - Woodward

Effective: Sun, 2/14 12:00am   Updated: Fri, 2/12 9:49pm   Urgency: Expected
Expires: Mon, 2/15 6:00pm   Severity:  Moderate    Certainty: Likely
 
Details:
...Dangerous Wind Chills are Expected Friday through Early Next
Week. A Winter Storm is Possible Sunday into Monday...
...WIND CHILL ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON CST
SATURDAY...
...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT SATURDAY NIGHT TO
6 PM CST MONDAY...
* WHAT...For the Winter Storm Warning, heavy snow and dangerous
wind chills expected. Total snow accumulations of 6 to 10
inches. Wind chills of 20 to 30 degrees below zero are expected
Monday and Tuesday mornings.
For the Wind Chill Advisory, wind chills as low as 15 below
zero Saturday morning.

* WHERE...Portions of central, northern, northwest, southwest
and western Oklahoma.
* WHEN...For the Winter Storm Warning, from midnight Saturday
night to 6 PM CST Monday. For the Wind Chill Advisory, until
noon CST Saturday.
* IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult to impossible. Areas of
blowing snow could significantly reduce visibility. The cold
wind chills could cause frostbite on exposed skin in as little
as 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 13, 2021, 03:44:46 AM
Varied winter weather predictions for Oklahoma show 'it's a complicated profession,' meteorologist says:

https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/varied-winter-weather-predictions-for-oklahoma-show-its-a-complicated-profession-meteorologist-says/article_e3814e74-6cbf-11eb-b882-f314abfe46b1.html#tracking-source=home-top-story (https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/varied-winter-weather-predictions-for-oklahoma-show-its-a-complicated-profession-meteorologist-says/article_e3814e74-6cbf-11eb-b882-f314abfe46b1.html#tracking-source=home-top-story)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 13, 2021, 09:32:35 AM
I think that just about everybody has something going on this weekend,

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 13, 2021, 09:03:28 PM
Oklahoma City meteorologist and  NWS employee, Aaron Tuttle sees fit to go by the map pivotal weather put up. It places Oklahoma City and Stillwater right in the bullseye for the most snow.  For the upcoming mid week storm, he sees a foot coming.  His Facebook page is here:  https://www.facebook.com/ATsWeather/photos/a.127898183896284/4047643211921742/ (http://"https://www.facebook.com/ATsWeather/photos/a.127898183896284/4047643211921742/")

(https://okie.world/photos/snowfeb14.png)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 13, 2021, 09:31:30 PM
On Saturday Boomer Lake in Stillwater had about froze over with temp around 15.  The couple hundred or so geese there are dealing with it the best they can, but in different ways. A good many stay out of the lake. Some swim in the water not yet frozen. Others perplexingly enough sat on the ice motionless with their necks tucked in as pictured in the background of this picture. I guess from being hardy as Canadian geese, they'll make it, since they weren't still there shortly before dark.

(https://okie.world/photos/frozengeese.jpg)

The geese that chose to stay out of the lake:

(https://okie.world/photos/lakegeese.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 14, 2021, 12:41:31 AM
Incredible how far south into Texas below zero temps for lows are slated to go on the 16th. Part of northern Mexico will have snow.  Probably you folks to the north think the cold is going to be more freaky than usual for you, too.

(https://okie.world/photos/feb16lows.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on February 14, 2021, 05:33:55 AM
^^^^^
Man that temp forecast is crazy. Single digits in Houston?
Curious to see what Galveston gets to.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on February 14, 2021, 08:06:01 PM
cold here. just cold. It has been worse.

But got this today

https://twitter.com/BSMWeather/status/1361027112677826563
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on February 14, 2021, 10:28:54 PM
This one is covering a huge area though.
Minus 15 at 9 p.m. is cold for us. Barometer at 30.77 is also high.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on February 14, 2021, 10:42:30 PM
I think I had a 30.98 during the 2014 polar vortex. Headache was a killer.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on February 14, 2021, 10:43:14 PM
Barometer at 30.77 is also high.
Yes sir, that's some Arctic air there.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on February 14, 2021, 10:57:00 PM
I think I had a 30.98 during the 2014 polar vortex. Headache was a killer.
Highest I ever experienced was in Norfolk, Va, winter 81-82, around 0F for the high, our altimeter was 30.99". Haven't seen it even close to that ever since.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 15, 2021, 01:27:29 AM
4" of snow on my patio at midnight tonight, so well short of what the TV weather people were trying to scare me with. Other patios may differ.  Hopefully, the 2nd round for Tuesday won't be any worse.

  Stillwater as of midnight has 0 to 2 degrees and falling with forecast low down to -5.  Temps for lows here haven't been below zero since Feb. 2011.   If this is about climate change, then I miss the good 'ol days of climate change.  Back 10 years ago on Feb 10 the low  got clear down to 10 below in Stillwater, 5 below for Oklahoma City.  Yet, just two days later the high had jacked up to the low 60s.  And that wasn't enough.  On Feb. 17 the temp further jacked up to the low 80s.  For now, the temp hasn't been above freezing here since Sunday Feb. 7th. This freaky long cold spell has been quite bewildering for February.  I would have bet it would have happened in January, not February.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 15, 2021, 02:12:40 AM
And I thought things like this only happen during unusually high heat spells of summer.

Update: Stillwater and other power providers ask for power conservation, warn of possible outages:
https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/update-stillwater-and-other-power-providers-ask-for-power-conservation-warn-of-possible-outages/article_97ec2b40-6f1d-11eb-bc24-d3836ffa82c1.html?fbclid=IwAR0q3VNiZdAxTbXNmX8Wx_Pbwm4VzNOvKC42LNSDKexiAl3Q68rfds_k9Gk (https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/update-stillwater-and-other-power-providers-ask-for-power-conservation-warn-of-possible-outages/article_97ec2b40-6f1d-11eb-bc24-d3836ffa82c1.html?fbclid=IwAR0q3VNiZdAxTbXNmX8Wx_Pbwm4VzNOvKC42LNSDKexiAl3Q68rfds_k9Gk)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on February 15, 2021, 08:25:13 AM
Minus 26 actual here at 7  a.m. Chill minus 32.

That is very cold for northern Kansas. More like Minnesota  :-)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Maumelle Weather on February 15, 2021, 12:56:07 PM
Morning from the frigid state of Arkansas. Have received 8.5" of snow from this 1st storm and my current is 13°F. May make 0 or below 0 tonight, which is pretty rare here. Thankful I still have power and internet. Y'all keep the folks in Texas on your mind, as 22% of the customers there do not have power at this time, and it is as cold there, if not colder.

It seems Entergy and other electric cooperatives in Arkansas are asking folks to conserve electricity, otherwise rolling blackouts may start occurring here as well. I hope not.
 

John
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on February 15, 2021, 04:49:23 PM
And the more we rely on "green energy" the more outages we'll see. Only so much electricity to go around.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/cmd-cons-consd-cos/2021/02/15/id/1010087/
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 15, 2021, 05:34:29 PM
When you are driving and it looks like this:

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It looks like this on radar:

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Lake effect snow aiming at my location.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 15, 2021, 05:49:03 PM
Not sure if anybody is in the clear yet! All kinds of stuff falling from the sky.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 15, 2021, 10:45:45 PM
And the more we rely on "green energy" the more outages we'll see. Only so much electricity to go around.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/cmd-cons-consd-cos/2021/02/15/id/1010087/
Fortunately, the blackout or curtailment of electricity in Stillwater for Monday afternoon was canceled.  I live on the east side of town that wasn't covered, though.  Maybe the windmills in Oklahoma didn't freeze up and have been making good use out of the record breaking wind chill.  They sure did freeze up in Texas, though, so up to 40% of that state had power blackouts.  It's been quite bewildering. Temps may get above freezing in Stillwater on Friday.  But on Tuesday morning it may make it clear down to minus 14 below.  I don't recall it ever getting that crazy cold here.

 https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/announced-stillwater-blackout-called-off/article_3277296c-6fc3-11eb-bbfb-a78ae101ef18.html (https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/announced-stillwater-blackout-called-off/article_3277296c-6fc3-11eb-bbfb-a78ae101ef18.html)

WOW,  Stillwater city workers had to drive to Kaw Lake to thaw out water pumps to make sure the town had water. But only thawed out two of five pumps but enough to avert a water crisis.  Believe me, I'm anxious to get these below zero temps over with:

 https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/stillwater-crews-thaw-kaw-pump-station-avert-water-shortage/article_b9004d22-6fe3-11eb-9c25-833f5c1c118e.html (https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/stillwater-crews-thaw-kaw-pump-station-avert-water-shortage/article_b9004d22-6fe3-11eb-9c25-833f5c1c118e.html)









Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 16, 2021, 12:23:33 AM
Unusual winter weather phenomena as pictured in Oklahoma City on Monday.  A spinning water vapor trail being generated by warmer water from Lake Hefner rising and interacting with very cold temperature above the lake. It rose as high as Sky 9 News copter, which photographed it.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/watervaporokc.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 16, 2021, 12:30:16 AM
WINTER STORM WARNING FOR MOST OF OKLAHOMA:


Details:
...Wind Chill Warning through Tuesday Morning and Winter Storm
Warning and Winter Weather Advisory Tuesday and Wednesday...
...WIND CHILL WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON CST TUESDAY...
...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON TUESDAY TO 6 PM CST
WEDNESDAY...
* WHAT...For the Wind Chill Warning, dangerously cold wind
chills. Wind chills as low as 30 below zero. For the Winter
Storm Warning, heavy snow expected. Total snow accumulations
of 4 to 8 inches.
* WHERE...Portions of central, north central, southern, and
western Oklahoma and western north Texas.
* WHEN...For the Wind Chill Warning, until noon CST Tuesday. For
the Winter Storm Warning, from noon Tuesday to 6 PM CST
Wednesday.
* IMPACTS...Travel could be very difficult. The hazardous
conditions could impact the morning or evening commute. The
cold wind chills could cause frostbite on exposed skin in as
little as 30 minutes.
* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Below zero wind chills will continue
Tuesday night into Wednesday across portions of the area.

Information:
Avoid outside activities if possible. When outside, make sure you
wear appropriate clothing, a hat, and gloves.
If you must travel, keep an extra flashlight, food, and water in
your vehicle in case of an emergency.
In Oklahoma, call 8 4 4 4 6 5 4 9 9 7 for road information. In
Texas, call 8 0 0 4 5 2 9 2 9 2 for road information.

Oklahoma counties affected in pink:

(https://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/png/oun.png)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 16, 2021, 10:08:13 AM
Comments from Chicago Meteorologist Tom Skilling:

The winter storm that supported heavy snow showers along the west shore of the lake was extensive, producing a 400-mile-wide swath of heavy snow and ice from Texas to New England.
On Monday, the system had already expanded the area covered by at least 1 inch of snow to 70.4% of the country. Snow cover was observed in all or part of 46 of the 48 contiguous states, Florida and South Carolina being the exceptions.

Another storm system expected in Chiberia by Wednesday.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 16, 2021, 03:15:43 PM
Except for some clouds over the lakes causing more lake effect snow for Indiana and Michigan it looks like clear skies. Snow everywhere you look today.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 16, 2021, 11:26:52 PM
Photo of downtown Oklahoma City skyscrapers darkened to conserve electrical power on Tuesday night, while snow falls.  OKC's mayor requested it be done to follow downtown Kansas City.  On Tues. morning, with below zero temps as lows through all of Oklahoma, electrical power shutdowns lasting for one hour affected a bunch of cities in Oklahoma, including Stillwater.  It was down to 10 below at my station.  It hadn't been that cold since 10 years ago.

 Lows to be well above zero Wed. morning, so hopefully no more blackouts again.  50s should be back next week.

(https://okie.world/photos/Cam1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: DRoberts on February 17, 2021, 04:25:36 PM
Went outside today at 15 degrees and sun. Felt like spring had arrived.  :lol:
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 17, 2021, 11:43:40 PM
Not just Canadian geese are finding it a challenge to survive highly unusual cold in Oklahoma.  Alligators are in Oklahoma's southeastern most county and they are surviving ice water to breathe by keeping their snouts above water:

https://okcfox.com/news/local/alligators-found-icing-in-mccurtain-county#:~:text=(KOKH)%2D%2DAlligators%20in%20McCurtain,so%20that%20they%20can%20breathe. (https://okcfox.com/news/local/alligators-found-icing-in-mccurtain-county#:~:text=(KOKH)%2D%2DAlligators%20in%20McCurtain,so%20that%20they%20can%20breathe.)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 19, 2021, 04:02:50 AM
A timely assist: City of Stillwater thanks OSU for help during water emergency, asks residents to keep conserving.

https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/a-timely-assist-city-of-stillwater-thanks-osu-for-help-during-water-emergency-asks-residents/article_e8c209b0-7254-11eb-abe1-7b53754f9343.html#utm_source=stwnewspress.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnews%2Fa-timely-assist-city-of-stillwater-thanks-osu-for-help-during-water-emergency-asks-residents%2Farticle-e8c209b0-7254-11eb-abe1-7b53754f9343.html%3Fmode%3Demail%26-dc%3D1613701142&utm_medium=auto%20alert%20email&utm_content=read%20more (https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/a-timely-assist-city-of-stillwater-thanks-osu-for-help-during-water-emergency-asks-residents/article_e8c209b0-7254-11eb-abe1-7b53754f9343.html#utm_source=stwnewspress.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnews%2Fa-timely-assist-city-of-stillwater-thanks-osu-for-help-during-water-emergency-asks-residents%2Farticle-e8c209b0-7254-11eb-abe1-7b53754f9343.html%3Fmode%3Demail%26-dc%3D1613701142&utm_medium=auto%20alert%20email&utm_content=read%20more)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 19, 2021, 06:05:25 PM
Yes there are some clouds but a lot of what you see is snow on the ground. United States of Tundra?

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Can't wait for Spring to get here.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on February 19, 2021, 07:57:23 PM
Never saw local order like this before during a past winter.  All Stillwater owned lake, pond and creek surfaces are temporarily closed due to public safety concerns. Walking on frozen water is extremely dangerous, especially as temperatures start to rise. Violators will be cited. 

I'm glad the worst is over with.  On Friday, it got above freezing here for the first time since Sunday Feb. 7.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on February 20, 2021, 05:13:09 PM
82F today with a nice breeze so I opened up the windows for the first time this year in hopes of airing out of some 2020.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 23, 2021, 09:16:24 AM
What a difference a few days can make.

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We have moderating temps for the next few days so a lot more of this snow will be going away.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 23, 2021, 11:48:17 AM
This ice berg floating in southern Lake Michigan broke off from the shore of Chicago's lake front yesterday. It is actually a large sheet of ice rather than a berg.

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https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/huge-ice-sheet-breaks-off-lake-michigan-shoreline-NBJ4LS3V
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 26, 2021, 08:17:31 AM
In the city of Chicago, after any significant snowfall, tradition has it that when you are finally able to dig your car out of the spot on the side street where you left it before the snow you have the "right" to hold your spot with lawn furniture, toys, buckets or whatever. The city finally gives up after awhile and makes this declaration. I was wondering if other snowbelt cities have the same phenomena.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on February 27, 2021, 08:36:10 PM
The leadoff comment from this afternoon's Chicago area AFD:

The 50 isotherm has worked its way north into the CWA today, with
Chicago officially reaching that mark. After the harsh wintry
conditions of early to mid February, this and the sun are welcome
by many. It`s actually the latest first 50 in a calendar year
since 2015, which was coming out of the coldest February in
Chicago in over a century.

MTF
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ocala on February 28, 2021, 06:13:17 AM
Not just Canadian geese are finding it a challenge to survive highly unusual cold in Oklahoma.  Alligators are in Oklahoma's southeastern most county and they are surviving ice water to breathe by keeping their snouts above water:

https://okcfox.com/news/local/alligators-found-icing-in-mccurtain-county#:~:text=(KOKH)%2D%2DAlligators%20in%20McCurtain,so%20that%20they%20can%20breathe. (https://okcfox.com/news/local/alligators-found-icing-in-mccurtain-county#:~:text=(KOKH)%2D%2DAlligators%20in%20McCurtain,so%20that%20they%20can%20breathe.)
I would have never thought there would be gators in Oklahoma. :shock:
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Notsorusty on March 01, 2021, 08:16:43 PM
Another observation from Chicago Meteorologist Tom Skilling:

Quiet start to March follows rough late winter
March's opening week looks to be storm-free, a welcome respite for weary Chicagoans, still recovering from the city's late-winter blasts of snow and cold. Recent mild weather has melted much of the city's once robust snowpack, and with no additional snow in sight, the strengthening March sun should deliver a snow-free landscape as the week progresses.

The longer days and increased sun is very welcome. Can Spring be far behind?
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on March 02, 2021, 01:38:08 AM
Not just Canadian geese are finding it a challenge to survive highly unusual cold in Oklahoma.  Alligators are in Oklahoma's southeastern most county and they are surviving ice water to breathe by keeping their snouts above water:

https://okcfox.com/news/local/alligators-found-icing-in-mccurtain-county#:~:text=(KOKH)%2D%2DAlligators%20in%20McCurtain,so%20that%20they%20can%20breathe. (https://okcfox.com/news/local/alligators-found-icing-in-mccurtain-county#:~:text=(KOKH)%2D%2DAlligators%20in%20McCurtain,so%20that%20they%20can%20breathe.)

I would have never thought there would be gators in Oklahoma. :shock:

There are black bears, too, where the Oklahoma governor went hunting for one:  https://okcfox.com/news/local/gov-kevin-stitt-harvests-black-bear-during-hunt-in-southeast-oklahoma (https://okcfox.com/news/local/gov-kevin-stitt-harvests-black-bear-during-hunt-in-southeast-oklahoma)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: BKS97 on March 02, 2021, 06:36:16 PM
The Minnesota Dept. of Transportation just announced the winners of its "Name a Snowplow" contest.  The DOT snowplow crews have a big job keeping the roads clear of snow and ice in the winter, but they decided to have a little fun.  More than 122,000 people voted for their favorites from a list of 24,000 names submitted, which the DOT whittled down to 50 to put on the ballot.

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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on March 02, 2021, 07:15:52 PM
it was 50 today.


snow is really melting. except for the piles
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on March 09, 2021, 12:02:30 AM
LOL, No, Stillwater isn't going to get 7.1" of rain later this month. OKC meteorologist Aaron Tuttle can be even worse than Mike Morgan of KFOR OKC about hyping up the coming weather. The further out a projection is the more ridiculously wrong it may be.  An inch or two would be nice, though, to suppress brush fires until vegetation can green up, though no drought here, so far, after a dry February.  Interesting how my purple air quality gauge and another one on the north edge of town registered well over a 100 on Sunday, due to grass fires in neighboring counties.  Under 50 is good.  It even led to the Stillwater Emergency Management to comment on Facebook, "There is a lot of smoke and haze in the air from fires in our surrounding counties. No fires in Payne County at this time. Temperatures continue to be warm, with gusty winds and low relative humidity. Please be extra careful for the next few days as fire dangers continue."  Fortunately, air quality reading returned to well under 100 on Monday.
https://aarontuttleweather.com/2021/03/07/will-we-see-massive-flooding-next-weekend/?fbclid=IwAR25PfxI-t99taED0cf70zIFg9ztGaoiWIH79o2QhQNMRl-A9o4_pMg1Jm4 (https://aarontuttleweather.com/2021/03/07/will-we-see-massive-flooding-next-weekend/?fbclid=IwAR25PfxI-t99taED0cf70zIFg9ztGaoiWIH79o2QhQNMRl-A9o4_pMg1Jm4)

(https://cdn.aarontuttleweather.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/qpf_acc.us_sc-1-1100x640.png?fbclid=IwAR2DsQVYeRms6okQ2ZkE_bYxqTzYx1hho43fmFJ21i6STIqiocgCDB_QYn0)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: EdOz on March 09, 2021, 05:07:32 PM
Hit 67 on my Davis Vantage Vue today, the warmest day here since 11/26. Felt like 80, lol. That's been the weird thing about this winter here in the Mid-Atlantic. Even in the "warmer" first half, it wasn't really that warm, but it wasn't that cold either. 11 on 2/8 was the coldest low.. average lows were pretty warm compared to averages this year..
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on March 10, 2021, 05:08:37 PM
Since it is still technically winter.

SE Minnesota, SW Wisconsin and N Iowa inline for storms. Hail, wind, tornados possible. A few storm chasers already in the area.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: gwwilk on March 10, 2021, 07:45:53 PM
Very dry and windy here today, with a dry cold front that moved through over the noon hour.  My Vantage Vue recorded .23" of rain as it vibrated back and forth on its mounting pole.  My Pro2+ which is mounted just 4' from the Vue accurately recorded zero rainfall.  Both anemometers recorded repeated 30+ mph gusts.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on March 10, 2021, 07:58:46 PM
My Vantage Vue recorded .23" of rain as it vibrated back and forth on its mounting pole.  My Pro2+ which is mounted just 4' from the Vue accurately recorded zero rainfall. 
Wow, that's insane. Of course a sturdy, level bucket is a must for the best it can be...but wow... :shock:
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on March 10, 2021, 08:11:39 PM
#covidhail Rosemount MN   Mar 10.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwJ_SdwWgAIMxQ-?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: gwwilk on March 15, 2021, 07:07:48 AM
Yesterday's Record Rainfall in Nebraska:
(https://www.gwwilkins.org/temp/RecordNERainfall.png)

(https://www.gwwilkins.org/temp/NERainfallRecords.png)

A drought-busting day and week for sure!
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: chief-david on March 15, 2021, 06:26:12 PM
boo snow
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 15, 2021, 08:56:44 PM
We woke to a foot+ of snow the heaviest this winter, the kind that is wet and hard to shovel.
 


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Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on March 15, 2021, 09:01:26 PM
Hey Bro, that's what the 16 year old down the street is for. That is if kids still "mow lawns" for date money.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on March 15, 2021, 09:12:44 PM
We woke
No.

Hows that for outta context? :-P
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on March 17, 2021, 12:51:05 AM
Looks like a busy day tomorrow in Dixie Alley. May even be bumped to 'high'.



Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on March 17, 2021, 03:24:20 AM
Sure enough..

https://www.spc.noaa.gov/products/outlook/day1otlk.html
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on March 17, 2021, 03:51:03 AM
The Oklahoma panhandle has a blizzard warning.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on March 17, 2021, 04:00:02 AM
I actually meant my last two post for the "Spring" thread, but nonetheless, probably a very good day to be aware of the out-of-doors.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: Bunty on March 17, 2021, 04:22:14 AM
I actually meant my last two post for the "Spring" thread, but nonetheless, probably a very good day to be aware of the out-of-doors.

Okay, I agree,  but think it's best to try to keep remaining postings here confined to snow and ice storms as the season transitions from winter to spring.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on March 17, 2021, 05:12:04 AM
I actually meant my last two post for the "Spring" thread, but nonetheless, probably a very good day to be aware of the out-of-doors.

Okay, I agree,  but think it's best to try to keep remaining postings here confined to snow and ice storms as the season transitions from winter to spring.
It is. You get a blizzard, they get EF4's.
Title: Re: Fall-Winter 2020-2021
Post by: CW2274 on March 17, 2021, 04:23:25 PM
If you can suffer through the commercials and you're a severe weather "fan", this is a good day to watch TWC. Lotsa PDS's already.