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The ebb and flow is the result of the rotation of the Earth and the gyres
Fermer05:
Tides are not formed along the entire coast of the seas and oceans, but only on those coasts where there is a high speed of currents.
And the higher the speed of currents along the coast, the higher the amplitude of the tidal wave.
On those coasts where the speed of currents is 0 km / h, the amplitude of the tides is also 0 meters.
The waters of the lakes, seas and oceans of the northern hemisphere rotate counterclockwise, and the waters of the southern hemisphere rotate clockwise, forming cyclonic gyres.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_gyre
And everything that rotates, including the cycles, has the property of a gyroscope - to maintain the vertical position of the axis in space, regardless of the rotation of the Earth.
If you look at the Earth from the side of the Sun, the gyres, rotating with the Earth, turn over twice a day, thanks to which the gyres precess (sway by 1-2 degrees) and reflect a tidal wave from themselves along the entire perimeter of the gyre.
https://goo.gl/images/M4SJq8 http://goo.gl/AM5g1s
The waters of the White Sea rotate counterclockwise, forming a huge gyroscope whirlwind, which precessing reflects the tidal wave along the entire perimeter of the White Sea. A similar pattern of tides is observed in all lakes, seas and oceans.
White Sea. http://rivermaps.ru/doc/beloe/beloe-3.htm
http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/22.png
The waters of the Mediterranean Sea rotate counterclockwise, forming tides 1015 cm high. In the Gulf of Gabes, off the coast of Tunisia, the height of the tides reaches three meters, and sometimes more, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature. But at the same time, the whirlpool rotates in the Gulf of Gabes, precessing reflecting an additional tidal wave. https://youtu.be/wlvkrRdYNZ0
The tidal wave in the Amazon River creates a huge planetary circulation with a diameter of several thousand km., Rotating between South America and North Africa, covering the mouth of the Amazon River.
The pattern of movement of the tidal wave along the perimeter of the North Atlantic planetary circulation (according to satellite data). http://goo.gl/R1hx0H
The length of the tidal wave depends on the diameter of the rotation.
The height of the tidal wave depends on the rotation speed of the rotation, the orbital velocity of the Earth and the time of the rotation of the rotation (12 hours).
A = V1 V2 / t
Where, A is the amplitude of the tidal wave.
V1 is the rotation speed of the rotation.
V2 is the orbital velocity of the Earth.
t is the time of the rollover of the cycle (12 hours).
Table of tidal amplitude versus current velocity, on all coasts.
1 km / h - 1 meter.
5 km / h - 5 meter.
10 km / h - 10 meter.
15 km / h - 15 meter.
The amplitude of the tides also depends on the size of the cycle, the amount of water under the cycle, the distance from the coast to the cycle and on the direction of the current (north, south, west, east).
The speed of currents and tides is also affected by the Coriolis force of the Sun and Earth.
The currents that move along the equator reflect a tidal wave north and south twice a day.
And the currents that move along the meridian reflect a tidal wave west and east 1-2 times a day.
The speed of currents and tides is also affected by the Coriolis force of the Sun and Earth.
From the current to the coast, the tidal wave moves at an average speed of 30 km/h, about 10 minutes. (Applied time is 0 to 20 minutes). Applied time is the time it takes a tidal wave to move from the current to the coast and depends on the speed of the tidal wave, the speed at which the tidal wave approaches the tidal wave, the distance from the current to the coast and the angle of inclination of the coast. https://youtu.be/tCuf5jSfzlc?si=yFH2NxfpfCwRUITY
A simple experiment can be made if you rotate the globe around the axis and in orbit, entwined along the equator and meridian with a plastic hose in which the fluid moves.
By the height of the tides, you can determine the speed of the current along the coast, relying on the map of sea currents.
The tidal cycle theory can be easily verified by relating the tidal height to the rotation speed of the cycle.
List of seas, with an average flow rate of more than 0.5 km / h and tidal heights of more than 50 cm:
Irish Sea, North Sea, Barents Sea, Baffin Sea, White Sea, Bering Sea, Sea of Okhotsk, Arabian Sea, Sargas Sea, Hudson Bay, Maine Bay, Alaska Bay, etc.
List of seas, with an average flow rate of less than 0.5 km / h, and a tidal height of less than 50 cm:
Baltic Sea, Greenland Sea, Black Sea, Sea of Azov, Chukchi Sea, Kara Sea, Laptev Sea, Red Sea, Sea of Marmara, Caribbean Sea, Sea of Japan, Gulf of Mexico, etc.
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_seas
USSR Sea http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/
Experience on the topic: Tides - the result of the rotation of the Earth and the cycles https://youtu.be/Pw9SKE_N6j0
Continuation: "The mechanism of thermoregulation of the Earth."
Forum Akademgorodok Novosibirsk. The science. https://forum.academ.club/index.php?showtopic=1235578
Forum of Nizhny Novgorod State University named after N.I. Lobachevsky.
http://forum.unn.ru/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=10331&sid=cfbc49e0cf32263eff20888ca205ab15
The opening was published in the Russian-German peer-reviewed journal Eastern European Scientific Journal No. 3/2015. Page 64. June
Scientific journal NBIKS-Nauka.Tehnologii No. 4/2018. Page 104.
(Nanotechnological Society of Russia).
English forum. "Weather/Earth sciences" https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=35094.0
Criticism of the lunar theory of tides.
According to the Static Tidal Theory, the Lunar tidal wave moves from east to west following the moon, at a speed of 1600 km / h, skirting the Earth in 24 hours, flooding only the eastern shores of the continents. But after centuries it was discovered.
1. That the Lunar tidal wave floods both the western and southern and northern coasts of the continents?
2. That the speed of a tidal wave of 1600 km / h is detrimental to both continents and marine fauna?
3. That not two tidal humps function simultaneously across the globe, but more than a hundred, regardless of the location of the Moon?
4. That the applied hour, which theoretically should be 50 minutes, was stretched from 0 to 12 hours and serves as a tool for adjusting the lunar theory of tides to reality.
5. That abnormally high tides for some reason form in semi-closed bays, where there is no direct access to the tidal wave. And in bays open to tidal waves, are there no tides at all, or are they small?
Later, the Dynamic theory of tides was proposed, which was supposed to answer all the questions posed.
According to the dynamic theory of tides, the Lunar tidal wave moves from east to west at a speed of 800 to 1600 km / h.
Crashing into the continents, part of the wave is scattered in place, and the reflected part rotates around the ocean, thanks to the Coriolis effect. Like water that spins in a cup when you slide the cup back and forth.
The only link on the Internet that reveals the "essence" of the dynamic theory of tides. http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/645fall2003_web.dir/Ellie_Boyce/dynamic.htm
But the dynamic theory of tides does not answer all the questions posed.
1. What is the mechanism of tidal wave scattering in the region of collision of the tidal hump with the continent?
2. If the cup of water is moved back and forth, the water will splash out and not rotate.
3. How does the tidal current that travels along the coast create the ebb and flow?
4. While the tidal wave makes one revolution around the Earth, the Moon makes two revolutions, how is the gravitational connection between the Moon and the tidal hump carried out?
5. In order for the Lunar tidal hump to exist, a nonuniform gravitational field is necessary, and for this, the Moon must constantly be above the hump, otherwise the hump will fall apart?
6. If the Moon created the tidal hump on Earth, it would not be an ellipse but a "drop". (The force of gravity is stacked, not compensated)?
7. It is believed that tidal waves are synchronized with the daily rotation of the earth and are delayed by 50 minutes every day.
The moon is out of sync with the tidal waves. (There is only one moon, but there are hundreds of tidal waves on Earth)?
8. It is believed that the abnormally high "Tides of the Century" with an amplitude of 15 meters in the Gulf of Saint-Malo, France, formed during the parade of planets. Then why, in other bays of France and the northern hemisphere, during the parade of the planets, abnormally high "Tides of the century" are not formed.
Moreover, in some bays of France during the parade of the planets, abnormally low tides of the century are formed.
9. According to the lunar tide theory, the maximum tides in the northern hemisphere should occur in the summer, when the moon and sun move over the seas of the northern hemisphere.
In reality, the maximum tides in the northern hemisphere are formed - in spring and autumn, when the Moon and the Sun are in the southern hemisphere.
The record high tide in the Bay of Fundy - 21 meters - occurred on the night of October 5, 1869, when the Moon and Sun were in the southern hemisphere.
The cyclical theory of tides explains this by the fact that the speed of rotation of the gyres increases in spring and autumn.
10. How to explain the fact that in the Southwest Australia in the port of Fremantle the tides are significant for part of the year and then disappear.
Once a year, in the Northern Dvina delta, during the spring flood, the ebb and flow mysteriously disappear for several days, sometimes for a week, and this is considered one of the mysteries of nature?
11. According to the Lunar tide theory, the maximum tides are formed in the phase of the new moon and full moon, and the minimum - in the first and last quarter.
But in reality, the maximum tides are formed in the new moon phase, the minimum - in the full moon phase.
12. The modern tide table is made by trial and error, and adjusted to the lunar theory of tides.
It is quite easy to compile a tide table by trial and error, for the reason that the tide heights are almost the same every year, except for the bays into which the rivers flow.
Tide tables were compiled long before the discovery of tide theory (by trial and error).
The same tables are used today; they are updated annually based on long-term data.
13. What theory was the Chinese tidal calendar based on in 1100?
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Fermer05:
According to the lunar theory of tides, in temperate zones tidal force raises the earth's crust to a height of 20 cm, and at the equator more than 50 cm.
Then why are the tides in the equatorial zone three times lower than in the temperate zones?
The maximum height of the tides in the temperate zones is:
1) Fundy Bay in North America - 18 m.
2) The mouth of the Severn River in England - 16 m.
3) Bay of Mont Saint-Michel in France - 15 m.
The maximum height of the tides in the equatorial zone is:
1) Maraca Brazil - 9 m.
2) Balboa Panama - 5 m.
3) Zanzibar Tanzania - 3.5 m.
Information about the tides in some ports of the world.
https://www.krugosvet.ru/enc/Earth_sciences/geografiya/PRILIVI_I_OTLIVI.html
The tidal cycle theory explains this discrepancy by the absence of the Coriolis force at the equator, which is necessary for the formation of cycles, cyclones and anticyclones.
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a0730201f0f095995e9cc6c7c9875519
According to the lunar theory of tides, abnormally high tides should occur at the equator and not in the temperate zones.
Quote: a half-meter lunar tidal wave , such as a mini-tsunami, rushes to the eastern coast of the continents at the equator at a supersonic speed. https://scfh.ru/lecture/prilivy-i-otlivy-v-moryakh-i-vo-vselennoy/
https://youtu.be/NqDEaFjIXPw
How to understand the fact that the amplitude of the tides in the Bay of Fundy yesterday was 6 meters, and today is 18 meters?
What changes have occurred overnight, for such a sharp jump?
We have two possible answers:
1. For a day, the force of gravity increased three times.
2. During the day, the rotation speed of the rotation has increased three times.
Record high tide in the Bay of Fundy - 21.6 meters - occurred only once in the entire history of observations, on the night of 4 to 5 October in 1869.
On the night of October 4-5 in 1869, under the influence of the Saxby Gale cyclone, a record rainfall fell over the river basins flowing into the Bay of Fundy (300 mm per day), thanks to which the waters of the Bay of Fundy poured into the Bay of Man and increased their rotation speed gyre in the Gulf of Maine three times.
During the flood of rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy, the current speed in the north of the Gulf of Maine rises to 20 km / h, with the result that the height of the tides reaches 18 meters.
During a drought over the basins of rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy, the amplitude of the tides does not exceed three meters.
And the most important question is why in the season of abnormally high tides in the Bay of Fundy, in other bays of the Northern Hemisphere, the amplitude of the tides does not increase?
A similar pattern of abnormally high tides (floods) is observed in all bays into which rivers flow.
Real-time animation shows how waters flowing into the Bay of Man from the Bay of Fundy form a cycle that, precessing, reflects a tidal wave toward the Bay of Fundy.
https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbclid=IwAR3fDQD_uF0xgVpETpxVzbrv2xxgzOR0UfAKIEFDHAKoC2jzE-Mpu1lIWMs#current/ocean/surface/currents/equirectangular=-65.27,44.29,3000/loc=-66.405,44.310
https://images.app.goo.gl/hAE4F7kyMQ1mhcAF9
Mezen Bay White Sea tide height reaches 10 m.
https://earth.nullschool.net/?fbclid=IwAR245zpmdxn7SmOQdJ7qF9HhRn-54AYSZIChWmA6-0A2rXyJ9y2UivmtlZA#current/ocean/surface/currents/equirectangular=42.30,67.95,3000/loc=44.019,65.946
Tides - table. http://www.prilivy.com
Why is there a high content of hydrogen sulfide in the east of the Mediterranean Sea and there are no tides?
According to the lunar theory of tides, a tidal wave enters the Mediterranean Sea through the Strait of Gibraltar, pulsating every 12 hours and until the east of the Mediterranean tidal wave barely reaches.
And according to the circulation theory of the tides, the flow that flows into the Mediterranean Sea spins the cycles much faster than in the east of the Mediterranean Sea. https://youtu.be/wlvkrRdYNZ0
According to the lunar theory of tides, a tidal wave in the Atlantic Ocean moves from east to west after the moon, and crashes into the eastern coast of South and North America.
Then, reflecting, it moves back east and flows into the throat of the Mediterranean, Baltic, White and other seas.
The pattern of tidal wave movement from the North Atlantic Ocean to Chukotka. https://www.esr.org/research/polar-tide-models/movies/?fbclid=IwAR3fB506PI_LBQcjUyDVVjtSjLNW_voHpajgMBjuTXOPK9I4aMGcdT8rFYg
The height of the tides in the west of the Mediterranean Sea reaches 1.2 meters, in the east of 15 cm.
The average depth of the Mediterranean Sea is 1500 meters, in the east 1700 meters. The maximum depth is 5000 meters.
In the Indian Ocean, a tidal wave with a height of 0.5 meters, obeying the dynamic theory of tides, moves from east to west at a speed of 800 - 1600 km / h. Crashing into the eastern coast of the island of Madagascar creates tides 1.5 meters high, and abnormally high tides up to 7 meters high, for some reason are formed in the west of the island of Madagascar.
And it should be the other way around.
Wikipedia explains this discrepancy by the reflection of waves and the fact that the Coriolis force does its job.
And the real reason for this inconsistency is the giant cycle that revolves around the island of Madagascar at a speed of up to 9 km / h, precessing, reflecting a tidal wave towards the west coast of the island of Madagascar.
https://youtu.be/jJ8aARJobXc
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Train_mys_Igolny
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozambique_current
Wikipedia explains the tidal physics in many languages of the world, and different formulas are written in each language, and in some languages there are no formulas at all.
And there are no real, digital calculations of the tidal heights of a particular bay or coast.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide
By the degree of discrepancy of a particular theory, one can judge the degree of inaccuracy of the theory.
In Wikipedia and the encyclopedia, gravitational and centrifugal forces are equally explained in all languages.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifugal_force
The tidal cycle theory can be easily verified by relating the tidal height to the rotation speed of the cycle.
List of seas, with an average flow rate of more than 0.5 km / h and tidal heights of more than 50 cm:
Irish Sea, North Sea, Barents Sea, Baffin Sea, White Sea, Bering Sea, Sea of Okhotsk, Arabian Sea, Sargas Sea, Hudson Bay, Maine Bay, Alaska Bay, etc.
List of seas, with an average flow rate of less than 0.5 km / h, and a tidal height of less than 50 cm:
Baltic Sea, Greenland Sea, Black Sea, Sea of Azov, Chukchi Sea, Kara Sea, Laptev Sea, Red Sea, Sea of Marmara, Caribbean Sea, Sea of Japan, Gulf of Mexico, etc.
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_seas
USSR Sea http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/
The editors are ready to withdraw the article if an objective critical review is written. Scientific journal NBIKS-Nauka.Tehnologii http://www.rusnor.org/pubs/articles/15638.htm
Rule of recall (retraction) of an article from publication
https://rasep.ru/sovet-po-etike/pravilo-otzyva-retragirovaniya-stati-ot-publikatsii
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waiukuweather:
are you trying to say that the moon does not cause tides?
then how come tide charts based on the moon are so accurate?
Fermer05:
The modern table of tides is made by trial and error and customized to the lunar theory of tides.
According to the lunar theory of tides, maximum tides are formed in the phase of the new moon and full moon.
And according to the circulation theory of tides, the maximum tides are formed in the new moon phase and the minimum in the full moon phase.
Creating a tidal table by trial and error is quite simple, because the tidal height is almost the same every year, with the exception of the bays into which the rivers flow.
Tide tables were compiled long before the discovery of the theory of tides (trial and error).
The same tables are used today, they are annually adjusted based on long-term data.
Based on the "lunar theory of tides", tides can be predicted for many years to come.
And based on the tidal theory of tides, it is not possible to predict the height of tides, because it is not known at what speed tomorrow the cycles will rotate.
Galileo called the lunar theory of the tides frivolous, a sad return to the realm of mystical nonsense, and preferred to explain the tides by the rotation of our planet.
D.G. Darwin wrote in 1911: There is no need to search for ancient literature for the sake of the grotesque theories of tides. However, sailors manage to measure their height and use the possibilities of the tides, not having an idea of the real causes of their occurrence.
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