Topic: TV ads

[Aardvark]

I am hating those tv ads that have the medical problems from taking them worse than the disease. The wife found this product and here are the Youtube .  I checked it out.  A real product.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9TTz3R5SmI

and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKLnhuzh9uY

This is a real product.

[WeatherHost]

10 seconds of what they can do FOR you and 2 minutes of what they can do TO you.

[vreihen]

10 seconds of what they can do FOR you and 2 minutes of what they can do TO you.

Are they required to include this info in advertising by the FDA, or by corporate lawyers trying to prevent frivolous lawsuits?????

[Aardvark]

I know that if I went into my doctor and asked for a medication by name, I am going to get the hairy eyeball from the Doc.   I really don't need to hear that this med does this and that, I think it is inappropriate in most circles and probably the only one who really gets their jollys off are hypochondriac fodder . Those people then are certain that they have those symptoms and plague their doctor wanting those things.

However,  I wish we could go back and have commercials that are enjoyable, such as the one forementioned.   Just think, I bet the product would sell.  Of course we have the Charmin Bears.. and we know what bears do in the woods, we could have the Aflac Duck, and we know what it does underwater..   now it can smell better.

Ok, maybe I had too many cups of coffee today.

[Dr Obbins]

I wish we could rewind back in time when advertising prescription medications was illegal all together. You know back when the doctor prescribed what he knew would fix you. Not some advertising specialist telling (selling) you that you have a problem so you get your doc to prescribe the product. 

[DaleReid]

The enormous amount of dollars spent at the most expensive times to advertise (evening news, etc) only shows the degree of overcharge that the marketers of this stuff has to influence people.

Even drugs that are firmly embedded into society through discussion but moreso jokes, such as Viagra and Cialis, etc. spend so much hawking their product.

I trust my physician is skilled, been educated, most have been certified by their specialty boards, and states have laws that require them to remain up to date and attend continuing education courses in person or on line.

So let the pro figure out what is out there, whether it applies to me based on my very individual uniqueness, and then have him/her offer it to me after we've discussed the usually minor or non-existant side effects but side effects that could kill you, which most of the candied up sweet voice overs barely mention.

Thank goodness for modern medicines and techniques, they are wonderful.  Remember, when someone says they long for the good old days, they most definitely are leaving out medicine and dentistry of the 1800s!

But please have some common sense and make your doctor's job a lot easier by NOT asking for what you hear crammed down your throat constantly.  A few years ago when it was prescription, Claritin was the most prescribed med in the US, and for good reason.  It was pretty effective, but free of almost all the bad side effects that every other antihistamine carried.  It also was the top spender for advertising, on TV, radio, print ads and so on.  Think of how much more cheaply it could be sold if they weren't paying close to a billion dollars a year in expense to advertise.

I know the companies take a risk bringing a product to market, and many fail.  The FDA is damned for requiring pretty extensive testing (and gets nailed in the press for 'holding up life saving medications', but once a product is out there, and some side effects begin to appear when used more widely, they get creamed for not being thorough enough.

Years ago many products were researched and tested by Universities and large medical centers.  Steroids were discovered and purified at Mayo Clinic, of all things.  Nowadays our government has privatized research by not funding or granting these studies, and we're left with the company having dumped enormous amounts into a product, and faced with what to do when a serious side effect or ineffective result is discovered.  Greed is a great motivator.  Let's get back to letting the pros do their jobs, and trust them to know if I may need something when I am sitting in their office.

[vreihen]

I trust my physician is skilled, been educated, most have been certified by their specialty boards, and states have laws that require them to remain up to date and attend continuing education courses in person or on line.
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Let's get back to letting the pros do their jobs, and trust them to know if I may need something when I am sitting in their office.

Oh, how sweet those days were, when I shared your innocence and believed the above.  THEN HE TRIED TO KILL ME! 

It all started out with a diagnosis of uncontrolled hypertension (ie: high blood pressure).  "Uncontrolled" is a medical term that means the doctor is free to keep ringing the register with your insurance carrier with frequent visits until the problem is "controlled."  Here, take this pill with breakfast and dinner, and come see me at 4 PM in two weeks.  Two weeks later, no improvement.  See you at 4 PM in another two weeks.  No improvement, so let me add a second pill at breakfast/dinner.  Repeat two more 4 PM visits, with blood pressure being higher than the first day.  Here, take a third pill.  No, it is not abnormal for someone to need multiple blood pressure pills to reach "controlled."  Repeat process of 4 PM visits for 4 pills.

On those two weeks between visits, I was taking the morning doses at 7 AM.  As the number of pills increased, so did my feeling that I could float down the hallway at work like Superman at 10 AM.  Must just be a side effect of the pills was my thought, since it was listed on the pharmacy's MSDS sheets.  When it reached 4 pills, I could not function at work between 10 AM - 1 PM.  My secretary (a licensed RN) commented that I looked pale, and started charting my blood pressure daily at 10 AM/2 PM.

Armed with a chart showing that I was near death from LOW blood pressure (60's over 40's!) at 10 AM, I went back to my doctor.  His diagnosis was to add pill #5, since my blood pressure had just set the high score for the year at 4 PM in his office.  I presented him with the chart, and said that I believed my blood pressure was being over-corrected.  I was popping 4 pills at 7 AM, they hit my system hard enough every day to almost kill me by 10 AM, recovering to "clinical normal" by 2 PM, and over-correcting by 4 PM when he checked it each time.  His response was that my secretary (third generation licensed RN!) did not know how to properly take blood pressure.  I told him that he just made himself an appointment at 10 AM the next day, and threatened to bring my secretary so that he could tell her his opinion to her face.

At 10 AM the next day, my "uncontrolled" condition became "controlled" (and then some).  We spent two hours (as the waiting room filed up) browsing online medical journals and discussing various issues, as he beat himself and other doctors up for becoming deaf to patients because they felt that many of us were hypochondriacs or faking injuries for disability.  At the end, he thanked me for the reminder that a patient's medical care is a team effort between the patient and the doctor...and subsequently "forgot" to collect my co-pay for the visit.  Point forward, all of my visits were at 9 AM, and I am down to 1/3 of one of the original pills as my only blood pressure medication to stay "controlled."

Long story short, YOUR medical care is a TEAM EFFORT, and you are the MVP of that team.  If you do not take an active role in your treatments, you could wind up with a blood pressure of 0/0 some morning like I nearly did.....

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

Ah, this mostly inane advertising of today...noisy, cause Epileptic seizures with fast changes, loud. Stupid...

Used to be 13 minutes per hour, or so, now it's 18-20, and 75% rerunning what you just saw 2 minutes ago, but are obviously too brain damaged to remember.... arrrgh! Like we ALL have short term memory loss... ahem...  Or Attention Deficit Disorder... 

Ah, for the good old days of catchy simplicity....  you young whippersnappers won't have a chance without cheating....
Who is, who was, who used it?  (Yeah, there's some 'easy' ones there so young-uns won't go away mad)

Each phrase is worth 1.923076923076923~~~points.

So, let's begin with a great WxForum Slogan:

"When it rains…..it pours"

Now.. without cheating... what's your Ad Retention Quotient? (ARQ.....QQQQQQQ)

" 'Don't Squeeze... ' (Mr Whipple)"
"Can't believe I ate the Whole Thing"
"Where's the Beef?"
"...it's Delightful, it's De-Lovely, it's ------"
"See the USA, in your ---------!...."
"Silly Rabbit!... ---- are for Kids"
"Plop! Plop! Fizz! Fizz!"
"A Little Dab'll Do Ya"
"Have it YOUR Way!"
"Mamma Mia! Atsa one spicy meata ball!"
"Is it live, or is it -------?"
"The pause that refreshes..."
"...a silly millimeter longer"
"With a name like -------- it has to be good!"
"99 and 44/100% Pure"
"You can trust your car to the man who wears the star!"
"Outstanding…and they are Mild!"
"In the valley of the jolly…ho ho ho…----- -----"
"It takes a licking and keeps on ticking"
"---- - ----, the San Francisco Treat"
"Never Had It, Never Will "
"John Cameron Swayze" pitched 'em
"Ring around the collar"
"Hey Mikey…He Likes It!"
"Pardon Me, But Do You Have any ---- ------?"
"Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't"
"Nothin' says lovin' like something from the oven"
"I’d walk a mile for a -----"
"The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat "
"...even an airline hostess should look like a girl."
"Wouldn’t you really rather have a -----?"
"Put a tiger in your tank"
"When you care enough to send the very best"
"You’ll wonder where the yellow went ..."
"Uncola"
"You're not fully clean until you're --------- clean!"
"Ask any mermaid you happen to see..."
"Taste reminds me of wild hickory nuts"
"Look ma….. No cavities!"
"It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature!"
"Stronger Than Dirt "
"Nothing beats a great pair of -'----"
"You’re soaking in it!"
"I’d rather fight than switch!"
"They gobble ‘em up and the plate come back for ------ ----."
"Fly me"
"Does she or doesn’t she?"
"All of my men wear ------- -------… or they wear nothing at all! "
"Flick my ---! "
"Double your pleasure….. "
"My wife….. I think I’ll keep her"

ad infinitum....

[Dr Obbins]

Here is the ones I remember:

So, let's begin with a great WxForum Slogan:

"When it rains…..it pours" - Morten Salt

Now.. without cheating... what's your Ad Retention Quotient? (ARQ.....QQQQQQQ)

" 'Don't Squeeze... ' (Mr Whipple)" Charmin toilet paper
"Can't believe I ate the Whole Thing" Alka Seltzer
"Where's the Beef?" Burger King
"...it's Delightful, it's De-Lovely, it's ------"
"See the USA, in your ---------!...."
"Silly Rabbit!... ---- are for Kids" Trix cereal
"Plop! Plop! Fizz! Fizz!" Alka Seltzer
"A Little Dab'll Do Ya"
"Have it YOUR Way!" Burger King
"Mamma Mia! Atsa one spicy meata ball!"
"Is it live, or is it -------?" Memorex
"The pause that refreshes..." ? Cigarette - I don't smoke
"...a silly millimeter longer" ? Cigarette - I don't smoke
"With a name like -------- it has to be good!" Smuckers jelly
"99 and 44/100% Pure" Ivory soap
"You can trust your car to the man who wears the star!"
"Outstanding…and they are Mild!" ? Cigarette - I don't smoke
"In the valley of the jolly…ho ho ho…----- -----" Green Giant veggies
"It takes a licking and keeps on ticking" Timex watches
"---- - ----, the San Francisco Treat" Rice a Roni
"Never Had It, Never Will "
"John Cameron Swayze" pitched 'em
"Ring around the collar" ? Laundry detergent
"Hey Mikey…He Likes It!" Life Cereal
"Pardon Me, But Do You Have any ---- ------?" Grey Poupon
"Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't" Mounds / Almond Joy Candy
"Nothin' says lovin' like something from the oven"
"I’d walk a mile for a -----" Camel Cigarette
"The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat " ABC Sports
"...even an airline hostess should look like a girl."
"Wouldn’t you really rather have a -----?"
"Put a tiger in your tank" Exonn
"When you care enough to send the very best" FTD Flowers
"You’ll wonder where the yellow went ..."
"Uncola" 7 UP
"You're not fully clean until you're --------- clean!"
"Ask any mermaid you happen to see..." Chicken of the sea tuna
"Taste reminds me of wild hickory nuts"
"Look ma….. No cavities!"
"It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature!" ? Margarine
"Stronger Than Dirt "
"Nothing beats a great pair of -'----"
"You’re soaking in it!" Palmolive dish detergent
"I’d rather fight than switch!"
"They gobble ‘em up and the plate come back for ------ ----."
"Fly me"
"Does she or doesn’t she?"
"All of my men wear ------- -------… or they wear nothing at all! "
"Flick my ---! " Bic lighter
"Double your pleasure….. " Doublemint Gum
"My wife….. I think I’ll keep her"

[miraculon]

" 'Don't Squeeze... ' (Mr Whipple)" Charmin toilet paper
"Can't believe I ate the Whole Thing" Alka Seltzer
"Where's the Beef?" Burger King
"...it's Delightful, it's De-Lovely, it's ------" 7UP
"See the USA, in your ---------!...." Chevrolet
"Silly Rabbit!... ---- are for Kids" Trix cereal
"Plop! Plop! Fizz! Fizz!" Alka Seltzer
"A Little Dab'll Do Ya" Brylcreem
"Have it YOUR Way!" Burger King
"Mamma Mia! Atsa one spicy meata ball!"
"Is it live, or is it -------?" Memorex
"The pause that refreshes..." ? Cigarette - I don't smoke (I thought this one was Pepsi)
"...a silly millimeter longer" ? Cigarette - I don't smoke
"With a name like -------- it has to be good!" Smuckers jelly
"99 and 44/100% Pure" Ivory soap
"You can trust your car to the man who wears the star!" Texaco
"Outstanding…and they are Mild!" ? Cigarette - I don't smoke
"In the valley of the jolly…ho ho ho…----- -----" Green Giant veggies
"It takes a licking and keeps on ticking" Timex watches
"---- - ----, the San Francisco Treat" Rice a Roni
"Never Had It, Never Will "
"John Cameron Swayze" pitched 'em
"Ring around the collar" ? Laundry detergent
"Hey Mikey…He Likes It!" Life Cereal
"Pardon Me, But Do You Have any ---- ------?" Grey Poupon
"Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't" Mounds / Almond Joy Candy
"Nothin' says lovin' like something from the oven" Pillsbury
"I’d walk a mile for a -----" Camel (cigarette)
"The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat " ABC Sports
"...even an airline hostess should look like a girl."
"Wouldn’t you really rather have a -----?" Camel (cigarette)
"Put a tiger in your tank" Exonn
"When you care enough to send the very best" FTD Flowers
"You’ll wonder where the yellow went ..." When you brush your teeth with Pepsodent
"Uncola" 7 UP
"You're not fully clean until you're --------- clean!" Zest soap
"Ask any mermaid you happen to see..." Chicken of the sea tuna
"Taste reminds me of wild hickory nuts"
"Look ma….. No cavities!"
"It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature!" ? Margarine
"Stronger Than Dirt " Ajax
"Nothing beats a great pair of -'----" Pair of Leggs (I used to use the "eggs" for anemometer cups...)
"You’re soaking in it!" Palmolive dish detergent
"I’d rather fight than switch!"
"They gobble ‘em up and the plate come back for ------ ----."
"Fly me"
"Does she or doesn’t she?"
"All of my men wear ------- -------… or they wear nothing at all! "
"Flick my ---! " Bic lighter
"Double your pleasure….. " Doublemint Gum
"My wife….. I think I’ll keep her"

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

HEY.! Not too bad! DRO-- Looks like an  ARQ.....QQQQQQQ  of 44.23076923076923 

Here is the ones I remember:

So, let's begin with a great WxForum Slogan:

"When it rains…..it pours" - Morten Salt 'Morton' 

Now.. without cheating... what's your Ad Retention Quotient? (ARQ.....QQQQQQQ)

" 'Don't Squeeze... ' (Mr Whipple)" Charmin toilet paper
"Can't believe I ate the Whole Thing" Alka Seltzer
"Where's the Beef?" Burger King
"Silly Rabbit!... ---- are for Kids" Trix cereal
"Plop! Plop! Fizz! Fizz!" Alka Seltzer
"Have it YOUR Way!" Burger King
"Is it live, or is it -------?" Memorex
"The pause that refreshes..." ? Cigarette - I don't smokeSorry, Generic doesn't score! 
"...a silly millimeter longer" ? Cigarette - I don't smokeSorry, Generic doesn't score! 
"With a name like -------- it has to be good!" Smuckers jelly
"99 and 44/100% Pure" Ivory soap
"Outstanding…and they are Mild!" ? Cigarette - I don't smokeSorry, Generic doesn't score! 
"In the valley of the jolly…ho ho ho…----- -----" Green Giant veggies
"It takes a licking and keeps on ticking" Timex watches
"---- - ----, the San Francisco Treat" Rice a Roni
"Ring around the collar" ? Laundry detergentSorry, Generic doesn't score! 
"Hey Mikey…He Likes It!" Life Cereal
"Pardon Me, But Do You Have any ---- ------?" Grey Poupon
"Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't" Mounds / Almond Joy Candy
"I’d walk a mile for a -----" Camel Cigarette
"The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat " ABC Sports Close... specifically?
"Put a tiger in your tank" Exonn
"When you care enough to send the very best" FTD Flowers  Wrong, sorry.
"Uncola" 7 UP
"Ask any mermaid you happen to see..." Chicken of the sea tuna
"It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature!" ? Margarine   oops  which one???/
"You’re soaking in it!" Palmolive dish detergent
"Flick my ---! " Bic lighter
"Double your pleasure….. " Doublemint Gum

[moehoward4]

vreihen    I almost gotta laugh at that one. My last doctor DID NOT want me to be part of the 'team', I wasn't qualified....yeah, she was just 'pimping' for the drug companies. My new doctor cut me off from the crap and my BP is much better.

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

Cool !!!  Now, assuming you knew the ones Dave had already identified, that gives you 59.61538461538461, which you didn't, I'll bet,
so the combined response average ARQ.....QQQQQQQ  is 51.92307692307692  and that ain't too bad for not cheating 

"...it's Delightful, it's De-Lovely, it's ------" 7UP  Sorry, wrong...
"See the USA, in your ---------!...." Chevrolet
"A Little Dab'll Do Ya" Brylcreem
"The pause that refreshes..." ? Cigarette - I don't smoke (I thought this one was Pepsi) NOT a cigarette, and Not Pepsi
"Nothin' says lovin' like something from the oven" Pillsbury
"You’ll wonder where the yellow went ..." When you brush your teeth with Pepsodent
"You're not fully clean until you're --------- clean!" Zest soap ZESTFULLY !
"Nothing beats a great pair of -'----" Pair of Leggs (I used to use the "eggs" for anemometer cups...) ME TOO! Worked great, and looked sexy....

OOPS, the damn math is wrong, ah well, who cares...

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

So,  http://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=24792.msg238527#msg238527
 looks like these ARQ.....QQQQQQQ  Teasers are a bit harder to recall... remember, no cheating...

"...it's Delightful, it's De-Lovely, it's ------"
"Mamma Mia! Atsa one spicy meata ball!"
"The pause that refreshes..."
"...a silly millimeter longer"
"Outstanding …and they are Mild!"
"Never Had It, Never Will "
"John Cameron Swayze" pitched 'em
"Ring around the collar"
"The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat " Paul got it: "ABC's Wide World of Sports"
"...even an airline hostess should look like a girl."
"Wouldn’t you really rather have a -----?"
"When you care enough to send the very best"
"Taste reminds me of wild hickory nuts"
"Look ma….. No cavities!"
"It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature!"
"I’d rather fight than switch!"
"They gobble ‘em up and the plate comes back for ------ ----."
"Fly me"
"Does she or doesn’t she?"
"All of my men wear ------- -------… or they wear nothing at all! "
"My wife….. I think I’ll keep her"

[Dr Obbins]

It was on the tip of my tongue:

"It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature!" - I Can't Believe It's Not Butter
"The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat" ABC Olympics


And to add to the list:

"I could have had a --"

[PaulMy]

"The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat " ABC Wide World of Sports
Paul

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

"The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat " ABC Wide World of Sports
Paul

Dead On, Paul !

It was on the tip of my tongue:

"It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature!" - I Can't Believe It's Not Butter
"The thrill of victory, the agony of defeat" ABC Olympics


And to add to the list:

"I could have had a --"

V8
and, sorry, "I can't believe it's not Butter" angers Mother Nature... try that again....

[vreihen]

"Where's the Beef?" Burger King

Wrong!!!  Does "I don't think there's anybody back there" jog your memory?  (RIP, Clara Peller.)

"Ring around the collar" ? Laundry detergent

Wisk brand in particular.

"Put a tiger in your tank" Exonn

Actually, I believe that it was Esso...before they changed name to Exxon.

Speaking of ABC's Wide World of Sports, it's been a while since I've seen the agony of defeat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2AZH4FeGsc

[Aardvark]

True Confessions.  The wife found the stuff. I just ordered two containers, one for her and the other for my daughter.    heh, heh, heh

[vreihen]

and, sorry, "I can't believe it's not Butter" angers Mother Nature... try that again....

"When you think its butter, but it's not...it's Chiffon."

[PaulMy]

"Put a tiger in your tank" Exonn

It was Esso and still have one of the Tiger Tails they would hang on the gas tank at the time (both in US and Canada).

it's been a while since I've seen the agony of defeat

Well, sorry to go off topic, but that was about 2 hours ago WJHC Russia 3 - USA 2

Paul

[vreihen]

vreihen    I almost gotta laugh at that one. My last doctor DID NOT want me to be part of the 'team', I wasn't qualified....yeah, she was just 'pimping' for the drug companies. My new doctor cut me off from the crap and my BP is much better.

Another lesson that I learned is about medical files.  Doctors love to send you out for things like blood tests, and then drag you in for an appointment just to discuss the results.  By law, they have to give you copies of every single thing in your medical file.  Don't be afraid to ask for a copy of all new test results to peruse while you're in the waiting room, and take them home with you for subsequent Google research!  Blood tests from most major labs are dumbed down so that doctors can understand them, with a range of "clinical normal" values for each result.  I have been known to have them add my own test requests to their lab work orders after reviewing the tests myself, and have never been told no.

As part of your medical treatment team, you can determine whether your doctor is practicing "defensive medicine" or providing the best course of treatment.  Defensive medicine frequently happens when they think about the malpractice suit first, and turning you into a human pin cushion second.  In one case, I was being sent for monthly blood tests because one test had a "clinical normal" range of 1.22-1.38 and I kept scoring a 1.40.  I asked where the danger zone was, and was told 2.5-3.0.  None of my friends would argue that I'm normal, so I deemed myself clinically normal for that test to stop the insanity and only have it tested routinely and not once per month.

If your doctors do not look forward to your visits to keep them on their toes, you're doing something wrong.....

[vreihen]

it's been a while since I've seen the agony of defeat

Well, sorry to go off topic, but that was about 2 hours ago WJHC Russia 3 - USA 2

From someone who was in Lake Placid as a guest of ABC, you're 35 years too late and the score was 4-3..... 

[Cutty Sark Sailor]

"Where's the Beef?" Burger King

Wrong!!!  Does "I don't think there's anybody back there" jog your memory?  (RIP, Clara Peller.)

"Ring around the collar" ? Laundry detergent

Wisk brand in particular.

"Put a tiger in your tank" Exonn

Actually, I believe that it was Esso...before they changed name to Exxon.

Speaking of ABC's Wide World of Sports, it's been a while since I've seen the agony of defeat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2AZH4FeGsc

You are quite right,... The scorekeeper failed to nail the Burger King miss... Comes of trying to edit BBcode with a dead brain. The real Miss was a red-head, but not Burger King's Princess, of course.... If Clara Peller doesn't give it away, Peter Pan's heart throb might...  Exxon and ESSO same company, (Standard Oil, if I remember correctly) and the name change didn't go into effect in all countries at the same time...

Wisk...No More Ring Around the Collar!

Well Done!

[linuxfreak]

"It’s not nice to fool Mother Nature!" - Monarch Margarine


George