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Title: WS-2000 / WS-5000 Firmware Tips - Firmware Updates
Post by: galfert on January 18, 2019, 05:04:00 PM
WS-2000 / WS-5000 Firmware Tips

IMPORTANT: The WS-2000 (same exact console as WS-5000) has two different firmware types that need to be maintained. Updating one does not update the other. Each one has its own method to perform the update. These are:

WS-2000 Revision Firmware
This is the firmware that changes how the display looks. It updates the display for new features and layout changes. These firmware updates are available from Ambient Weather from the WS-2000 Software Download section. Normally they only link to the latest version. But you can look at the link for the latest version and see the file download path and then edit the link in your browser to see the previous versions. Read the release notes here:
https://www.ambientweather.com/amwewsfidoce.html
Download specific versions here:
https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@site.ambientweatherstore.com/ssl/ws2000/

There could be different reasons for not running the latest version. It could be that the latest version has a not yet resolved bug that was recently discovered. Or you may prefer a previous version if a feature was changed or removed. You can go back and forward version numbers. It sometimes is recommended to do a factory reset if going backwards version. This is not documented anywhere but is a normal good practice with firmware flashing. If you only go up in version number then it is not necessary to factory reset. Sometime a factory reset is a good way to solve problems that seem strange.

There are two types of files you may find in the download directory of all versions of the firmware. There are factory.bin files and there are user.bin files. There is not really a technical difference between them. You can in fact rename a factory.bin to be a user.bin or the other way around. The reason for the two different names is that at the end of the firmware upgrade the factory.bin file prompts you to press any key to reboot. But doing so causes the display tablet to reboot with the SD card still in it (as the instructions are to leave it in there and power it off). So if you reboot then as it boots up again you enter a firmware flashing again! So the same version overwrites the version you just flashed. Which means that probably the factory.bin flashing instructions that have not been published probably have a step where when it says to press any key to reboot, before pressing the key you probably should remove the SD card. Then you press any key and it reboots. After flashing with a factory.bin file the file remains on the SD card. It seems that the current versions and flashing instructions are to instead use the file named as user.bin instead of factory.bin. When using this new user.bin naming the firmware updating looks the same till it finishes and then it doesn’t prompt for a key to be pressed. Instead you see a 3 second count down and it restarts automatically. Since you’ve left the SD card inserted you would think that it would begin updating again upon reboot….but it doesn’t. Upon inspection of the SD card after a firmware flash you’ll notice that the user.bin file has been deleted. It doesn’t format the SD card…it just deletes that one user.bin file. It seems that using the user.bin file name is simpler. You can always download the file again if you are changing or testing versions and you can keep a record of all of them on your computer for possible future use. So it doesn’t matter that the file gets deleted. I’ve tested the factory.bin files and renamed them to be user.bin and it works as I’ve stated, and it also works as expected the other way around when you rename a user.bin to factory.bin.

The important thing to know when flashing an older version of the firmware is that the file must be named user.bin (or factory.bin). You’ll need to rename it as you copy it to the SD card from your computer.

The reason the older firmware files have numbers in the file name is only to identify the older versions. Today if you download user.bin it will be 1.3.7. But if a newer version comes out then Ambient renames the file in their download repository to user-1-3-7.bin or something like that. Then they place the newest version as user.bin. This allows you to always download user.bin and you don’t need to rename. But if you inadvertently click on the download link twice you may end up with more than one copy of the file on your computer. The first one will be user.bin and the second click will get renamed by your computer browser to user(1).bin or something like that. If you previously downloaded a prior version (like days, weeks before) and you didn’t delete it from your download folder then even though you think you just clicked once you are in fact downloading a second file name user.bin and it will get renamed. In this case if you go looking for user.bin that is the prior version that you never deleted in your downloads. So pay close attention to the file name that gets saved by your browser and clean out your download folder to avoid this problem.

Steps to flash Revision Firmware
- Power down display tablet
- Insert SD card with user.bin file
- Power up WS-2000 display tablet
- Wait for firmware update to complete successfully and restart
- Remove SD card and insert your other optional SD card for data storage (optional step)
- Sometimes a power cycle may be needed…do one anyway for good measure.

When flashing the firmware it is rather interesting how there currently is a typo during the update process. Instead of using the word Update or Upgrade they have made up a new word Upgrate and it shows up that way a couple times.

Upgrate! (firmware flashing - do not power off)
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user.bin automatic reboot after flashing
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factory.bin prompt for any key after flashing
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Ambient's Firmware Download Repository Has Mistakes

The next point I’d like to make is that it seems that the old versions that you can download have not been maintained and renamed to the appropriate version numbers. I’ve tested all these and there are a few mistakes.

download link for all versions:
https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@site.ambientweatherstore.com/ssl/ws2000/

Firmware version number corrections:
factory-1_0_7.bin > is really 1.0.8
factory-1_1_0.bin > is really 1.0.9
factory.bin > is really 1.2.0

The rest of them are named correctly. (user.bin is always the current version). When a new version comes out, the prior user.bin becomes userXXX.bin where XXX represents the actual version of that file, and the newest one is put there as just user.bin. You can't flash a userXXX.bin unless you rename it first back to user.bin.

WiFi Firmware
The other type of firmware that the WS-2000 uses is what is called the WiFi firmware. The purpose of this other firmware is to connect to your WiFi and is also responsible for uploading your data to Weather Underground and ambientweather.net …etc. When you look at your station info details in WU you’ll see this version number reported as the name of the software that you are running. For now it seems to be matching the same name and number as the WS-2902A display console. So not surprisingly the method used to update the WiFi firmware is to use the awnet app on your Android or iOS device. You can download and install the awnet app from the Google Play Store or the Apple App Store on your device. Once you have the awnet app and your mobile device is connected to the same network as your WS-2000 display tablet you will see it listed in the awnet app and you can then use the app to upgrade the WiFi firmware. This firmware at this point can only be upgraded to the latest version. There currently is no method of going back a version. I recommend only upgrading to the latest version after is has been published for at least a week maybe more depending on your level of comfort. A new firmware can come with unknown bugs. If you want to be the guinea pig then go ahead and let the others know if there are any issues.

You can also use the WS View app instead of the awnet app. The WS View app is maintained by Fine Offset/Ecowitt. The WS View app is used by all other Fine Offset clones, but it works for Ambient stations too.

To see what version you are running:
- Gear Icon button
- Gear Icon button again 3 times (it’s in a different place now though)
- Arrow Up to About Display section
- Press + or – button to reveal info
- When done…Back arrow 2 times to go back to main display tablet view. (or wait a minute or two and it goes back automatically)

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Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: tony on January 18, 2019, 05:13:40 PM
Thank you for time and effort you put into this post.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: kbellis on January 18, 2019, 05:22:50 PM
Thanks George! I'm not an ingrate, but I guess we must all upgrate!  :shock:

Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on January 24, 2019, 12:17:39 PM
Hello, has anyone tried flashing Ambient WS2000 firmware on a FO clone (HP2550/1).
The reason I ask is that there seems to be active firmware being released by Ambient but I cannot see any on the FO site.
Is there likely to be any issues?

TIA
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on January 24, 2019, 01:42:30 PM
Hello, has anyone tried flashing Ambient WS2000 firmware on a FO clone (HP2550/1).
The reason I ask is that there seems to be active firmware being released by Ambient but I cannot see any on the FO site.
Is there likely to be any issues?

TIA

I know it is possible to flash the firmware from Ambient ObserverIP over to Aercus' version of that device and it is possible to flash firmware the other way also from Aercus to Ambient. All without any problems. The interesting thing too is that both of those are designed to work on 915 MHz and the other on 433 MHz but it doesn't seem to matter to the flashed firmware...the device keeps operating on its given original frequency. This is because each device ha a radio chip for each specific frequency. What I'm saying is that the firmware doesn't care. Based on that experience I think it may be possible that the same is true for the WS-2000 and the HP2550. Of course I say this without any guarantees and proceed at your own peril. Please do report back if anyone is successful at doing this.

The other question I have for you though is why are you looking for firmware updates from Fine Offset? You should be looking for updates from whatever reseller rebranded the device you are using. So what brand is your HP2550? I'm not aware that Fine Offset sells directly to anyone other than in bulk for those that want to become a new reseller. Please correct me if I'm wrong here.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on January 24, 2019, 03:02:31 PM
I just did an upgrate to version 1.3.8. During this process the screen still says "Upgrate Firmware" in the usual places. This version 1.3.8 is supposed to correct this misspelling, but it appears to not be the case. Until you realize that the upgrade process is done by the still current running prior firmware. Meaning the device doesn't boot up with the SD card...it just reads the SD card and uses that as an image. So you wont see the correct spelling "Upgrade Firmware" until you do the next upgrade to version 1.3.9 (not out yet) or whatever follows. But you can test it because you can either downgrade to a prior firmware or install 1.3.8 on top of itself.

I did both as a test. First I upgraded to 1.3.8 (still saw "Upgrate"). Then I did a downgrade to 1.3.5 and I did then see "Upgrade Firmware" instead of "Upgrate." Then I did a upgrade back to 1.3.8 and because 1.3.5 was what was loaded last you then see "Upgrate" again. Then I did an install of 1.3.8 on top of 1.3.8 and I saw "Upgrade" spelled correctly. Yep all this is meaning less for the functionality of your station. But it was interesting none the less as a test and learning exercise.

No more "Upgrate Firmware" but I think Upgrate may live on just like All your base are belong to us.

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Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: kbellis on January 24, 2019, 04:25:01 PM
Yes! the bonus 1k of hPa has been fixed!!  =D>
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on January 24, 2019, 04:42:58 PM
Yes! the bonus 1k of hPa has been fixed!!  =D>

I'm curious if the bonus 1000 hpa was only seen on the display or if you look at the history log on the tablet if it is in that data chart or not? Basically I'm wondering if you have bad data or not?

Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: kbellis on January 24, 2019, 05:24:17 PM
Thanks for asking.

The bonus / bogus 1k was only seen ever on the WS-2000 Display Tablet. The Ambient Weather (browser) Dashboard, WU, etc. never reflected the issue that appears to have been peculiar with only v1.3.7. - you can examine the data yourself, if you like; see attached.

N.B. The date time field (first column) was a little tricky importing into OpenOffice Calc requiring right clicking over the field in the import dialog. If you use some other spreadsheet program, it may not be an issue for you.

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I'm curious if the bonus 1000 hpa was only seen on the display or of you look at the history log on the tablet if it is in that data chart or not? Basically I'm wondering if you have bad data or not?
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Theo on January 24, 2019, 05:28:11 PM
Thanks for asking.

The bonus / bogus 1k was only seen ever on the WS-2000 Display Tablet. The Ambient Weather (browser) Dashboard, WU, etc. never reflected the issue that appears to have been peculiar with only v1.3.7. - you can examine the data yourself, if you like; see attached.

N.B. The date time field (first column) was a little tricky importing into OpenOffice Calc requiring right clicking over the field in the import dialog. If you use some other spreadsheet program, it may not be an issue for you.



I'm curious if the bonus 1000 hpa was only seen on the display or of you look at the history log on the tablet if it is in that data chart or not? Basically I'm wondering if you have bad data or not?


Yup, when I went through the testing of it, it seemed like it was not clearing the 4 digit to the left of the decimal, so it only happened when one reading was above 1000 and one below 1000.  Display only, no data issue.
 
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on January 24, 2019, 09:46:24 PM
I didn't import your data file. I just opened it in Excel and could see all the data. But I can see how the first column is not formated for normal user consumption. I believe it was done that way to have a unique identifier.

And you right no bad data. So I guess it was as you both said just a screen draw bug.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on January 25, 2019, 07:17:51 AM
Hello, has anyone tried flashing Ambient WS2000 firmware on a FO clone (HP2550/1).
The reason I ask is that there seems to be active firmware being released by Ambient but I cannot see any on the FO site.
Is there likely to be any issues?

TIA

I know it is possible to flash the firmware from Ambient ObserverIP over to Aercus' version of that device and it is possible to flash firmware the other way also from Aercus to Ambient. All without any problems. The interesting thing too is that both of those are designed to work on 915 MHz and the other on 433 MHz but it doesn't seem to matter to the flashed firmware...the device keeps operating on its given original frequency. This is because each device ha a radio chip for each specific frequency. What I'm saying is that the firmware doesn't care. Based on that experience I think it may be possible that the same is true for the WS-2000 and the HP2550. Of course I say this without any guarantees and proceed ad your own peril. Please do report back if anyone is successful at doing this.

The other question I have for you though is why are you looking for firmware updates from Fine Offset? You should be looking for updates from whatever reseller rebranded the device you are using. So what brand is your HP2550? I'm not aware that Fine Offset sells directly to anyone other than in bulk for those that want to become a new reseller. Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

Its an entirely theoretical question at this stage as I have yet to get my hands on the new station. I intend to order in a few weeks along with all the new sensors.
For reference whilst Fine Offset only officially sell in bulk (min 500 devices) you can purchase from them through Ecowitt which is their new direct to public selling brand. It is the same folks. It might be that their (Ecowitt) android app (WS View) gives the same functionality as AW's version. I will see what's what when I have the shiny new kit in hand to replace my old 10 year old Fine Offset model!

As a thought I would be curious to see what happens if someone with a AW station installs the WS View app and what that reports to you!
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: jzinckgra on January 25, 2019, 09:25:21 AM
They say the 1.3.8 ver improves Rf transmission. My station dropped out yesterday for 20min, came back until this morning and now is "out"  for 2+hrs. Would this fw update help with this? If not, I'm not going to deal with this and just send it back. I've only had the unit less then a week and reliability is questionable.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on January 25, 2019, 09:45:37 AM
Hello, has anyone tried flashing Ambient WS2000 firmware on a FO clone (HP2550/1).
The reason I ask is that there seems to be active firmware being released by Ambient but I cannot see any on the FO site.
Is there likely to be any issues?

TIA

I know it is possible to flash the firmware from Ambient ObserverIP over to Aercus' version of that device and it is possible to flash firmware the other way also from Aercus to Ambient. All without any problems. The interesting thing too is that both of those are designed to work on 915 MHz and the other on 433 MHz but it doesn't seem to matter to the flashed firmware...the device keeps operating on its given original frequency. This is because each device ha a radio chip for each specific frequency. What I'm saying is that the firmware doesn't care. Based on that experience I think it may be possible that the same is true for the WS-2000 and the HP2550. Of course I say this without any guarantees and proceed ad your own peril. Please do report back if anyone is successful at doing this.

The other question I have for you though is why are you looking for firmware updates from Fine Offset? You should be looking for updates from whatever reseller rebranded the device you are using. So what brand is your HP2550? I'm not aware that Fine Offset sells directly to anyone other than in bulk for those that want to become a new reseller. Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

Its an entirely theoretical question at this stage as I have yet to get my hands on the new station. I intend to order in a few weeks along with all the new sensors.
For reference whilst Fine Offset only officially sell in bulk (min 500 devices) you can purchase from them through Ecowitt which is their new direct to public selling brand. It is the same folks. It might be that their (Ecowitt) android app (WS View) gives the same functionality as AW's version. I will see what's what when I have the shiny new kit in hand to replace my old 10 year old Fine Offset model!

As a thought I would be curious to see what happens if someone with a AW station installs the WS View app and what that reports to you!

I'm familiar with Ecowitt but I had no idea that Fine Offset owned them or that they are one and the same. How do you know this? Their web domains are registered with two different registrars and hosted with different companies. How do you know that Ecowitt is not just another reseller like Ambient, Misol, Foggit...etc?

I installed WS View on my mobile device. The app does not see either of my consoles (WS-2000 and WS-2902A). I also tried WS Tool and it also doesn't see either console.

Strangely enough I've looked at Ecowitt's website and I didn't find any firmware download links for the HP2551.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on January 25, 2019, 09:46:52 AM
They say the 1.3.8 ver improves Rf transmission. My station dropped out yesterday for 20min, came back until this morning and now is "out"  for 2+hrs. Would this fw update help with this? If not, I'm not going to deal with this and just send it back. I've only had the unit less then a week and reliability is questionable.

Well 1.3.8 has not even been out a day. Try it. Let us know.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on January 25, 2019, 10:44:20 AM
Hello, has anyone tried flashing Ambient WS2000 firmware on a FO clone (HP2550/1).
The reason I ask is that there seems to be active firmware being released by Ambient but I cannot see any on the FO site.
Is there likely to be any issues?

TIA

I know it is possible to flash the firmware from Ambient ObserverIP over to Aercus' version of that device and it is possible to flash firmware the other way also from Aercus to Ambient. All without any problems. The interesting thing too is that both of those are designed to work on 915 MHz and the other on 433 MHz but it doesn't seem to matter to the flashed firmware...the device keeps operating on its given original frequency. This is because each device ha a radio chip for each specific frequency. What I'm saying is that the firmware doesn't care. Based on that experience I think it may be possible that the same is true for the WS-2000 and the HP2550. Of course I say this without any guarantees and proceed ad your own peril. Please do report back if anyone is successful at doing this.

The other question I have for you though is why are you looking for firmware updates from Fine Offset? You should be looking for updates from whatever reseller rebranded the device you are using. So what brand is your HP2550? I'm not aware that Fine Offset sells directly to anyone other than in bulk for those that want to become a new reseller. Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

Its an entirely theoretical question at this stage as I have yet to get my hands on the new station. I intend to order in a few weeks along with all the new sensors.
For reference whilst Fine Offset only officially sell in bulk (min 500 devices) you can purchase from them through Ecowitt which is their new direct to public selling brand. It is the same folks. It might be that their (Ecowitt) android app (WS View) gives the same functionality as AW's version. I will see what's what when I have the shiny new kit in hand to replace my old 10 year old Fine Offset model!

As a thought I would be curious to see what happens if someone with a AW station installs the WS View app and what that reports to you!

I'm familiar with Ecowitt but I had no idea that Fine Offset owned them or that they are one and the same. How do you know this? Their web domains are registered with two different registrars and hosted with different companies. How do you know that Ecowitt is not just another reseller like Ambient, Misol, Foggit...etc?

I installed WS View on my mobile device. The app does not see either of my consoles (WS-2000 and WS-2902A). I also tried WS Tool and it also doesn't see either console.

Strangely enough I've looked at Ecowitt's website and I didn't find any firmware download links for the HP2551.

I cant say for 100% but I have been in dialogue with Lucy @ fine offset sales via e-mail and she has been switching back and forth with reference to Ecowitt. You will find she also posts as Ecowitt on this forum and others. She has made reference to the factory and design team and the development work going on, so in my mind its fairly clear they are the same. It is certainly clear that Ecowitt is bringing to market all the new sensors and products ahead of anyone else including Ambient. I must say though their websites are not great so they have some way to go to establish themselves!
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on January 25, 2019, 11:35:14 AM
Hello, has anyone tried flashing Ambient WS2000 firmware on a FO clone (HP2550/1).
The reason I ask is that there seems to be active firmware being released by Ambient but I cannot see any on the FO site.
Is there likely to be any issues?

TIA

I know it is possible to flash the firmware from Ambient ObserverIP over to Aercus' version of that device and it is possible to flash firmware the other way also from Aercus to Ambient. All without any problems. The interesting thing too is that both of those are designed to work on 915 MHz and the other on 433 MHz but it doesn't seem to matter to the flashed firmware...the device keeps operating on its given original frequency. This is because each device ha a radio chip for each specific frequency. What I'm saying is that the firmware doesn't care. Based on that experience I think it may be possible that the same is true for the WS-2000 and the HP2550. Of course I say this without any guarantees and proceed ad your own peril. Please do report back if anyone is successful at doing this.

The other question I have for you though is why are you looking for firmware updates from Fine Offset? You should be looking for updates from whatever reseller rebranded the device you are using. So what brand is your HP2550? I'm not aware that Fine Offset sells directly to anyone other than in bulk for those that want to become a new reseller. Please correct me if I'm wrong here.

Its an entirely theoretical question at this stage as I have yet to get my hands on the new station. I intend to order in a few weeks along with all the new sensors.
For reference whilst Fine Offset only officially sell in bulk (min 500 devices) you can purchase from them through Ecowitt which is their new direct to public selling brand. It is the same folks. It might be that their (Ecowitt) android app (WS View) gives the same functionality as AW's version. I will see what's what when I have the shiny new kit in hand to replace my old 10 year old Fine Offset model!

As a thought I would be curious to see what happens if someone with a AW station installs the WS View app and what that reports to you!

I'm familiar with Ecowitt but I had no idea that Fine Offset owned them or that they are one and the same. How do you know this? Their web domains are registered with two different registrars and hosted with different companies. How do you know that Ecowitt is not just another reseller like Ambient, Misol, Foggit...etc?

I installed WS View on my mobile device. The app does not see either of my consoles (WS-2000 and WS-2902A). I also tried WS Tool and it also doesn't see either console.

Strangely enough I've looked at Ecowitt's website and I didn't find any firmware download links for the HP2551.

I cant say for 100% but I have been in dialogue with Lucy @ fine offset sales via e-mail and she has been switching back and forth with reference to Ecowitt. You will find she also posts as Ecowitt on this forum and others. She has made reference to the factory and design team and the development work going on, so in my mind its fairly clear they are the same. It is certainly clear that Ecowitt is bringing to market all the new sensors and products ahead of anyone else including Ambient. I must say though their websites are not great so they have some way to go to establish themselves!

I see your point about Lucy and the back and forth reference between Ecowitt and Fine Offset. I too have had extensive dialog with Ed @ Ambient. Since I've worked with him on bug reporting, testing, and future feature upgrades, Ed refers to the engineers at Fine Offset as "his" engineers. He even provided me direct contact email with Fine Offset engineers to work out firmware issues. I think resellers of Fine Offset have a very close relationship. I think Fine Offset makes the resellers feel like they are business partners in the same company. But the reality is that they are all separate companies with special business relationships and agreements. I'm not doubting that there is a chance that Ecowitt is Fine Offset. I'm just saying that we need more evidence or confirmation.

Actually come to think of it I just remembered something with regards to Ecowitt. I've dealt with Lucy regarding the bird spikes that they sell. I asked her point blank if this was a product that is coming from Fine Offset or if it was something that they decided to do own their own. She responded back saying that it was not from Fine Offset and that they had developed the bird spikes on their own. I ended up buying Ecowitt's bird spikes. I forgot that I had them as I've yet to see evidence of bird issues. I haven't installed them yet. The fact that Fine Offset doesn't have these bird spikes that fit their stations and no other Fine Offset reseller has these bird spikes leads me to believe that Ecowitt is a reseller and different company than Fine Offset.

* by the way the Ecowitt bird spikes even though I haven't installed them yet look very nice. Much nicer than the DIY zip tie method.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on January 25, 2019, 12:26:20 PM
You are probably right though the only clue I have is that I have been communicating with Lucy about procuring a mix of items (some of which are not listed on the Ecowitt website) and some that are and this has all been through the Fine offset sales e-mail address. This came about when I e-mailed Fine offset about European availability and started a dialogue about what I would like that they offered to provide it through Ecowitt!

I am possibly adding 2 and 2 and making 5 and there could well be a Lucy at both Ecowitt and Fine offset but I am fairly convinced that the same helpful person are one and the same.
Not that it makes any difference really, but it is good to know that you can buy any fine offset kit in any configuration now from Ecowitt.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: PaulMy on January 25, 2019, 12:41:52 PM
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I cant say for 100% but I have been in dialogue with Lucy @ fine offset sales via e-mail and she has been switching back and forth with reference to Ecowitt.
I have received and reported on the new Ecowitt sensor series through contact with Lucy.  The follow up and shipment and tracking communication was from Fine Offset and yesterday Lucy suggested I do a firmware update for the WS View App to V1.3.8 and that worked fine.


Enjoy,
Paul
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on January 25, 2019, 01:19:22 PM
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I cant say for 100% but I have been in dialogue with Lucy @ fine offset sales via e-mail and she has been switching back and forth with reference to Ecowitt.
I have received and reported on the new Ecowitt sensor series through contact with Lucy.  The follow up and shipment and tracking communication was from Fine Offset and yesterday Lucy suggested I do a firmware update for the WS View App to V1.3.8 and that worked fine.


Enjoy,
Paul

Thanks Paul, I feel vindicated now!
It makes me even more excited to receive my new kit. I liked your review by the way...very thorough.
I too have offered to undertake a review of the new kit and will post my findings. I am hoping that all the sensors and gateway integrate with the console and sensor array as well.
I suspect that they will given from what I have seen being revealed about the firmware updates.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: kbellis on January 25, 2019, 01:30:30 PM
Please provide a link to Paul's review. Thanks!
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on January 26, 2019, 11:36:39 AM
Please provide a link to Paul's review. Thanks!

Paul's review can be found here:
https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/91232-ecowitt-wifi-weather-sensor-series/
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: kbellis on January 26, 2019, 11:43:38 AM
Thank you Mandrake and thanks to PaulMy too! - Nice article!!

Do you think the soil sensor will interface with the WS-2000?

Paul's review can be found here:
https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/91232-ecowitt-wifi-weather-sensor-series/
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on January 26, 2019, 12:59:57 PM
Thank you Mandrake and thanks to PaulMy too! - Nice article!!

Do you think the soil sensor will interface with the WS-2000?

Paul's review can be found here:
https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/91232-ecowitt-wifi-weather-sensor-series/

Not certain, but given that the air quality meter will do soon there is a chance.
I am also getting the new gateway so that will capture the data from the AQM and soil moisture sensor and also the WH32 Thermo/hydro sensor of which I am getting a bunch. I am hoping it will also capture the data from the HP2550/WS2000 sensor mast though the manual does not mention it but I cant think why they wouldn't add that capability since they are all the same family.
I am not certain but I am guessing the new GW1000 Gateway is the next evolution of the IP logger product.
Once I have all the kit in my hands in mid Feb I will post my findings.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Bucs44 on February 18, 2019, 03:32:49 PM
How long does this process take to upload the new firmware to the display unit?  I have copied the most recent bin file 1.3.8 and powered down the display unit and inserted the SD card and then powered the unit back on and it seems like nothing happens.  Does it happen instantaneously?
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: kbellis on February 18, 2019, 03:40:18 PM
You should see something right off on the WS-2000 Display Tablet if you have named the file correctly that's on the inserted SD card.

Note that the spelling error of Upgrade was fixed and this photo was taken prior to its effect:

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Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on February 18, 2019, 04:35:17 PM
Thank you Mandrake and thanks to PaulMy too! - Nice article!!

Do you think the soil sensor will interface with the WS-2000?

Paul's review can be found here:
https://www.netweather.tv/forum/topic/91232-ecowitt-wifi-weather-sensor-series/

Not certain, but given that the air quality meter will do soon there is a chance.
I am also getting the new gateway so that will capture the data from the AQM and soil moisture sensor and also the WH32 Thermo/hydro sensor of which I am getting a bunch. I am hoping it will also capture the data from the HP2550/WS2000 sensor mast though the manual does not mention it but I cant think why they wouldn't add that capability since they are all the same family.
I am not certain but I am guessing the new GW1000 Gateway is the next evolution of the IP logger product.
Once I have all the kit in my hands in mid Feb I will post my findings.

I have the Ecowitt GW1000 and it sees my Osprey WH65 outdoor sensor array by Ambient. They are all 915 MHz. So it works. I would assume if you got the GW1000 with 433 MHz then you'd need to make sure your other sensors are all also 433 MHz (for those in Europe for example).

Yes I agree that the GW1000 seems like the next evolution of the IP Logger or ObserverIP or Weather Logger as it goes by different names depending on re-seller. The thing is though the GW1000 does not seem to have an internal web page to scrape data from....as such the Meteobridge currently cannot get data from a GW1000. You also can't use something like WeeWx with the ObserverIP driver. But the GW1000 is still new and I've got some ideas in mind as I work with Ecowitt on product eval.

Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on February 18, 2019, 04:47:31 PM
How long does this process take to upload the new firmware to the display unit?  I have copied the most recent bin file 1.3.8 and powered down the display unit and inserted the SD card and then powered the unit back on and it seems like nothing happens.  Does it happen instantaneously?

If the firmware file is called user.bin it will only flash once and then be deleted. You should be able to go into the Settings menu and then find About to confirm the version that you are currently running. If you want to try flashing again you need to copy the user.bin firmware file back again to the SD card. The file must be named exactly user.bin or it won't work. If you downloaded it a few times in your download directory it may be called user(1).bin and then you must rename it if this is the case.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Bucs44 on February 18, 2019, 08:56:07 PM
How long does this process take to upload the new firmware to the display unit?  I have copied the most recent bin file 1.3.8 and powered down the display unit and inserted the SD card and then powered the unit back on and it seems like nothing happens.  Does it happen instantaneously?

If the firmware file is called user.bin it will only flash once and then be deleted. You should be able to go into the Settings menu and then find About to confirm the version that you are currently running. If you want to try flashing again you need to copy the user.bin firmware file back again to the SD card. The file must be named exactly user.bin or it won't work. If you downloaded it a few times in your download directory it may be called user(1).bin and then you must rename it if this is the case.

Thanks so much.   It must have been the name of the file. 
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: tony on February 18, 2019, 09:23:56 PM
It's immediate..less than a minute.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on February 21, 2019, 07:05:58 AM
This should settle the mystery.

Quote
Hi George,

Thanks for your reply.:)
Happy to hear that you're satisfied with our products and working on the review now.:)
Yes, the ecowitt.net was updated and will be improved more to perform better.
Your feedback about the website will also be greatly appreciated!

As for your last question, Ecowitt is a seperate company and cooperate with Fine Offset to develop and sell products.
Maybe we can just focus on the products instead of things like that.


We're be looking forward to your review or any good suggestion.:)

Best Regards,
Lucy

That last bit about focusing on the product tells me that it isn't something they want to call attention to. After all if you are a company selling a product the last thing you want to do is advertise that you can get the same product from some other company. But we've had separate companies selling Fine Offset for some time and they all seem to find their niche. In Europe they've always had several companies and they each seem to have separate models slightly. For example I've only seen the Weather Logger (ObserverIP) from Aercus. In the US we've only had Ambient and Tycon. But Tycon has played a small roll. You can definitely tell that Ambient has focused on extreme customer support excellence, Ed is one hard working man, and Ambient sells Davis hardware too and Meteobridges. It seems Ecowitt is trying to carve a name for itself and we are starting to see signs of what their niche is....they sell you any custom configuration from the unpublished catalog of parts and with any MHz frequency you need and their customer service seems fine for being a recent company. Their website is not yet at the level of Ambient's. Ambient is a big name in the US and world wide as I think a lot of their sales end up being exported by 3rd party as I see Ambient stations everywhere like in South America and other places like China also and more. Even though though the parts may be identical in hardware the software and firmware is different when it comes to the consoles. Ambient comes out with new firmware often and they are constantly squashing bugs. Also if you want to report to Ambientweather.net then you need an Ambient branded console and if you want to report to Ecowitt.net then you'll need an Ecowitt console. And we don't have full confirmation yet if new separate anemometer will work with Ambient consoles as it may be firmware limited. If it is firmware limited that will change the minute Ambient starts selling the separate anemometer. Also another Ecowitt niche is that they seem to be able to directly sell worldwide. It will be interesting to see how Ecowitt and Ambient evolve.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on February 21, 2019, 09:04:34 AM
Nicely put!
I think we should all avoid the comparisons and open our arms to the possibilities Ecowitt will bring in terms of hardware and configurations available worldwide.
I for one am delighted as we are very poorly served in the UK at the moment.
If I want a WS2000/HP2550 the only place I can go is Ecowitt or risk importing a Ambient model and the hazards of interference by using a non legal frequency!
All that said I am leaping up and down in anticipation to compare the Ecowitt HP2550 console with the WS2000 to see what differences if any there capability wise other than perhaps ambient.net vs ecowitt.net.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on March 28, 2019, 05:53:23 PM
WS-2000 Firmware Version 1.4.0 Released

https://www.ambientweather.com/amwewsfidoce.html

Changes:
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on March 28, 2019, 07:15:22 PM
WS-2000 Firmware Version 1.4.0 Released

https://www.ambientweather.com/amwewsfidoce.html

Changes:
  • Fixes time bug between 12:00am and 1:00am
  • Sensor signal quality and battery status are now displayed
  • Rain rate value is now displayed - SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS!!!!  :-)
  • Sensor ID is displayed on About Display page for advanced customer troubleshooting
  • History file saved on SD card are now optimized based on units of measure

Where is the sensor signal quality and battery status displayed? [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: DWIGHT123 on March 28, 2019, 07:40:15 PM
I have tried once with the file user.bin with no success what does the name have to say when sending it to SD card for updating? Thank you!
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on March 28, 2019, 09:10:34 PM
WS-2000 Firmware Version 1.4.0 Released

https://www.ambientweather.com/amwewsfidoce.html

Changes:
  • Fixes time bug between 12:00am and 1:00am
  • Sensor signal quality and battery status are now displayed
  • Rain rate value is now displayed - SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS!!!!  :-)
  • Sensor ID is displayed on About Display page for advanced customer troubleshooting
  • History file saved on SD card are now optimized based on units of measure

Where is the sensor signal quality and battery status displayed? [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Okay wrong image in prior post . Now I see the 2 signals or is that the batteries  ? [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: DWIGHT123 on March 29, 2019, 12:07:31 AM
Can you tell what I’m doing wrong sir? I have tried flashing onto my SD card user.bin file  I have tried factory.bin file I cannot for the life of me figure out why I can’t update my firmware on my console thank you!
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: kbellis on March 29, 2019, 04:35:13 AM
Hi George - THANKS FOR THIS!!!

Has anybody discovered a reliable way to receive automated notice as to when the updates to Ambient Weather firmware become available? As a paying customer, is that too little to expect?


WS-2000 Firmware Version 1.4.0 Released

https://www.ambientweather.com/amwewsfidoce.html

Changes:
  • Fixes time bug between 12:00am and 1:00am
  • Sensor signal quality and battery status are now displayed
  • Rain rate value is now displayed - SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS!!!!  :-)
  • Sensor ID is displayed on About Display page for advanced customer troubleshooting
  • History file saved on SD card are now optimized based on units of measure
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: abusuzuki on March 29, 2019, 04:36:22 AM
Thank you very much for the Ambient development team to add signal strength. Previously I was afraid to move the display so as not to lose the signal. Now I think that I can change the location of the device freely, I feel like a weight's been lifted off me. 
 I only have two points I hope to see in the coming updates:
1- Save the Min/Max data  after the restarting the display (min/max data in the home screen).
2-  increase the size of the temperature icon (I hope to see the Temperature one day the same size of the Atlas display).
(https://i.imgur.com/4JlfUTJ.jpg?1)
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: kbellis on March 29, 2019, 06:34:31 AM
Hi Dwight,

You will want to read and re-read the procedure before trying it a second - or third time. It's pretty clear and fairly simple, just follow the instructions.

One thing that might not be well documented, though there is a very subtle clue molded into the plastic near the micro SD port, and that's the orientation of the tiny thing.

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I have tried once with the file user.bin with no success what does the name have to say when sending it to SD card for updating? Thank you!
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Sir_MAK on April 01, 2019, 07:23:26 AM
WS-2000 Firmware Version 1.4.0 Released

https://www.ambientweather.com/amwewsfidoce.html

Changes:
  • Fixes time bug between 12:00am and 1:00am
  • Sensor signal quality and battery status are now displayed
  • Rain rate value is now displayed - SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THIS!!!!  :-)
  • Sensor ID is displayed on About Display page for advanced customer troubleshooting
  • History file saved on SD card are now optimized based on units of measure

Where is the sensor signal quality and battery status displayed? [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Okay wrong image in prior post . Now I see the 2 signals or is that the batteries  ? [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

One is for the Osprey (in the upper left) and the other is for the inside T/H/B sensor (between the indoor temp and humidity reading.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: ALEEF02 on May 12, 2019, 02:55:23 PM
Thank you very much for the Ambient development team to add signal strength. Previously I was afraid to move the display so as not to lose the signal. Now I think that I can change the location of the device freely, I feel like a weight's been lifted off me. 
 I only have two points I hope to see in the coming updates:
1- Save the Min/Max data  after the restarting the display (min/max data in the home screen).
2-  increase the size of the temperature icon (I hope to see the Temperature one day the same size of the Atlas display).
(https://i.imgur.com/4JlfUTJ.jpg?1)

What does each bar mean? How is it measured? Thank you!
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on May 13, 2019, 03:29:02 AM
If you are referring to the signal 'strength' measurement it is actually a signal quality meter.
Each bar indicates how many 'packets' of data that the console has received from the sensor array or individual sensors if you have them. So max bars mean you are receiving all the packets. A loss of a bar means proportionally that a packet was not received and lost.
You will note that when first powered on your console will climb from no bars to 5 bars (assuming you have good reception) as the packets are received successfully.

This type of signal measurement is normal for digital systems since normally a digital signal is binary, you can either receive it and decode it or not. Hence the method of showing quality is the number of packets lost/received.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on May 17, 2019, 09:46:04 AM
just tried to update to ver. 1.4.4 . [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on May 17, 2019, 09:55:44 AM
Version 1.4.4 that was released yesterday finalizes support for the PM2.5 sensor. I have an Ecowitt PM2.5 and I hope that it shows up on the WS-2000. I'm usually not an early firmware adopter. But I'm really curious about this update. Hmmm....I'll see how long I can hold off.

I noticed also that Ambient's PM2.5 is finally available for sale.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: kbellis on May 17, 2019, 11:03:07 AM
just tried to update to ver. 1.4.4 . [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Did you ever get it to work? What was the issue that caused this error?
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: ALEEF02 on May 17, 2019, 11:06:12 AM
Version 1.4.4 that was released yesterday finalizes support for the PM2.5 sensor. I have an Ecowitt PM2.5 and I hope that it shows up on the WS-2000. I'm usually not an early firmware adopter. But I'm really curious about this update. Hmmm....I'll see how long I can hold off.

I noticed also that Ambient's PM2.5 is finally available for sale.

Yes! I got my in-stock email this morning. Planning to purchase soon
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: ALEEF02 on May 17, 2019, 11:09:55 AM
just tried to update to ver. 1.4.4 . [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Did you ever get it to work? What was the issue that caused this error?

Seeing as his Wunderground station is up, I'd say he did fix it.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: laajr on May 17, 2019, 01:13:49 PM
Unable to upgrade to 1.4.4 also. Same error screen as platokidd. Downloaded bin file again, still wouldn't upgrade. Is there another download site for the this file?
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on May 17, 2019, 02:36:14 PM
Version 1.4.4 has been removed from download because of error in file. Ambient knows about it and they are working to fix the file. There is only one source to download it which is Ambient's site:
https://www.ambientweather.com/amwewsfidoce.html

It will show up on that page when it becomes available.

There is a good chance that it will be replaced immediately with 1.4.5 or the like. Just saying in case you can't find 1.4.4 in the future you'll know why.

It is rather curious that every version released had up until 1.4.4 increased in size by a few KB. Then 1.4.4 comes out and it is a good bit smaller than several recent updates. These updates are not just changes...they contain a complete set of code. So either they really did some code cleanup or 1.4.4 is messed up because it is incomplete and that is why it fails to work.

1.0.9 - 1985 KB
1.2.0 - 1989 KB
1.2.5 - 2160 KB
1.2.6 - 2188 KB
1.2.7 - 2188 KB
1.3.5 - 2189 KB
1.3.8 - 2189 KB
1.4.0 - 2192 KB
1.4.1 - 2192 KB
1.4.2 - 2192 KB
1.4.4 - 1991 KB



Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: laajr on May 17, 2019, 02:54:02 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: ALEEF02 on May 17, 2019, 03:37:31 PM
Version 1.4.4 has been removed from download because of error in file. Ambient knows about it and they are working to fix the file. There is only one source to download it which is Ambient's site:
https://www.ambientweather.com/amwewsfidoce.html

It will show up on that page when it becomes available.

There is a good chance that it will be replaced immediately with 1.4.5 or the like. Just saying in case you can't find 1.4.4 in the future you'll know why.

It is rather curious that every version released had up until 1.4.4 increased in size by a few KB. Then 1.4.4 comes out and it is a good bit smaller than several recent updates. These updates are not just changes...they contain a complete set of code. So either they really did some code cleanup or 1.4.4 is messed up because it is incomplete and that is why it fails to work.

1.0.9 - 1985 KB
1.2.0 - 1989 KB
1.2.5 - 2160 KB
1.2.6 - 2188 KB
1.2.7 - 2188 KB
1.3.5 - 2189 KB
1.3.8 - 2189 KB
1.4.0 - 2192 KB
1.4.1 - 2192 KB
1.4.2 - 2192 KB
1.4.4 - 1991 KB

That is peculiar. Perhaps it was smaller because of optimizations or maybe because of that error.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: ALEEF02 on May 17, 2019, 04:13:53 PM
This note is on the Ambient Weather site right now at the download area
Quote
Version 1.4.4. Sorry for the delay in releasing this version. Your patience is appreciated while we fix a few things...
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: laajr on May 18, 2019, 11:40:32 AM
Ed said they would fix the bug on Monday....
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: LEVRON on May 20, 2019, 08:45:57 PM
New firmware (1.4.4) is up and running.
I added the PM2.5 and it shows on the ambientweather.net, they also added battery status.
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Here is a photo of the WS-2000 screen
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Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on May 20, 2019, 09:02:10 PM
Is that an Ambient PM2.5 sensor or an Ecowitt PM2.5 sensor?
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: LEVRON on May 20, 2019, 09:03:36 PM
It Is an Ambient PM2.5 sensor, ordered last week got it today.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: havtrail on May 20, 2019, 10:42:43 PM
Another website using tiles...

Rich K.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: ALEEF02 on May 20, 2019, 11:05:05 PM
Is that an Ambient PM2.5 sensor or an Ecowitt PM2.5 sensor?

Are both compatible with the WS-2000's new update?
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on May 20, 2019, 11:17:45 PM
Is that an Ambient PM2.5 sensor or an Ecowitt PM2.5 sensor?

Are both compatible with the WS-2000's new update?

We don't know if Ecowitt PM2.5 sensor will work with WS-2000 as nobody has confirmed this yet. I could test it if I upgraded my firmware. But I have a personal policy to not adopt new firmware right away for fear of bad firmware. After a couple weeks without incident reporting I'll then upgrade. I don't want to be the guinea pig.

The Ecowitt WH31 does not work with the WS-2000. So there is a good chance the PM2.5 won't either. And I think the Ecowitt soil sensor doesn't work either with the WS-2000.

Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: ALEEF02 on May 21, 2019, 08:50:05 PM
Has anyone since heard anything bad about 1.4.4? I'm looking to install it tonight  \:D/
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Sir_MAK on May 22, 2019, 06:45:42 AM
Is that an Ambient PM2.5 sensor or an Ecowitt PM2.5 sensor?

Are both compatible with the WS-2000's new update?

We don't know if Ecowitt PM2.5 sensor will work with WS-2000 as nobody has confirmed this yet. I could test it if I upgraded my firmware. But I have a personal policy to not adopt new firmware right away for fear of bad firmware. After a couple weeks without incident reporting I'll then upgrade. I don't want to be the guinea pig.

The Ecowitt WH31 does not work with the WS-2000. So there is a good chance the PM2.5 won't either. And I think the Ecowitt soil sensor doesn't work either with the WS-2000.


I can confirm that neither the Ecowitt PM2.5 nor the Soil moister sensor works with the WS-2000 display with the new firmware.  Oh well.
  Both work fine in the GW-1000.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on May 22, 2019, 07:06:09 AM
I suppose the possible option for someone brave enough is to try is to flash the ecowitt firmware for the HP2551 to a Ambient WS-2000.

I cant see why it would not work and that should unlock the capability to see all sensors on your console, though of course you would have to trade the ambient.net for Ecowitt.net!

Obviously, anyone trying this would be doing so at their own risk!
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on May 22, 2019, 01:38:53 PM
Version 1.4.4 has been removed from download because of error in file. Ambient knows about it and they are working to fix the file. There is only one source to download it which is Ambient's site:
https://www.ambientweather.com/amwewsfidoce.html

It will show up on that page when it becomes available.

There is a good chance that it will be replaced immediately with 1.4.5 or the like. Just saying in case you can't find 1.4.4 in the future you'll know why.

It is rather curious that every version released had up until 1.4.4 increased in size by a few KB. Then 1.4.4 comes out and it is a good bit smaller than several recent updates. These updates are not just changes...they contain a complete set of code. So either they really did some code cleanup or 1.4.4 is messed up because it is incomplete and that is why it fails to work.

1.0.9 - 1985 KB
1.2.0 - 1989 KB
1.2.5 - 2160 KB
1.2.6 - 2188 KB
1.2.7 - 2188 KB
1.3.5 - 2189 KB
1.3.8 - 2189 KB
1.4.0 - 2192 KB
1.4.1 - 2192 KB
1.4.2 - 2192 KB
1.4.4 - 1991 KB

The newly released 1.4.4 is much larger than the previously released one that gave error when attempting to flash.

Broken release:
1.4.4 - 1991 KB

New release:
1.4.4 - 2196 KB

As you can see it follows the trend to keep growing in size as new features are added.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on May 22, 2019, 02:20:20 PM
I suppose the possible option for someone brave enough is to try is to flash the ecowitt firmware for the HP2551 to a Ambient WS-2000.

I cant see why it would not work and that should unlock the capability to see all sensors on your console, though of course you would have to trade the ambient.net for Ecowitt.net!

Obviously, anyone trying this would be doing so at their own risk!

With an Ambientweather.net licensed Meteobridge or an Ambient WeatherBridge you don't have to trade Ecowitt.net for Ambientweather or vise versa. The GW1000 reports to Ecowitt.net and the Meteobride (WeatherBridge) reports to Ambientweather.net. So I get both.

I'm even now able to see my Ecowitt PM2.5 sensor on Ambientweather.net because of the Meteobridge.
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Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: ALEEF02 on May 22, 2019, 08:59:45 PM
There's a bug in 1.4.4 where the rain droplets icons are on, even though the rain rate is 0.00in/hr
(https://i.ibb.co/yg6JMz5/F93296-A1-F3-E4-4798-8-F5-A-76396981-DB9-A.jpg)
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on May 22, 2019, 09:35:38 PM
Good catch. That is an innocuous bug. Did you report it?
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: ALEEF02 on May 22, 2019, 10:07:42 PM
Good catch. That is an innocuous bug. Did you report it?
Not yet, been running around all afternoon
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on May 23, 2019, 06:06:19 AM
On second thought it did rain. Maybe it is just showing it was a rain day. It may be normal.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: laajr on May 23, 2019, 07:07:04 PM
Received a PM2.5 sensor from Ambient and am running 1.4.4. Seems to work well. Checking the alerts field on Ambientweather.net you can receive a SMS or email text on PM2.5 low battery. The numeric field should be set for <1 for a low battery (1= normal battery).

Thought I would pass this on as it wasn't obvious to me. I emailed Ambient and was told to use this value.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mapantz on May 24, 2019, 06:17:28 AM
The rain drop graphic filling is associated with hourly rain, not the rain rate.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on May 24, 2019, 06:24:13 AM
The rain drop graphic filling is associated with hourly rain, not the rain rate.

This makes sense since the WS-2000 didn't have rain rate when it first came out, it only had hourly rain.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: ALEEF02 on May 24, 2019, 09:47:08 AM
The rain drop graphic filling is associated with hourly rain, not the rain rate.

I'm not talking about the big rain drop, I'm taking about the little ones on top of it
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on May 24, 2019, 10:02:46 AM
The rain drop graphic filling is associated with hourly rain, not the rain rate.

I'm not talking about the big rain drop, I'm taking about the little ones on top of it

Yes, and if hourly rain is not 0 then it is raining. Or rather is was just recently raining or could be still raining and that was the only way that the WS-2000 originally had to tell if it was raining because it didn't gain rain rate till just recently with a firmware update.

Now, that the WS-2000 has rain rate it does make sense for them to update the firmware so that the little rain drops are associated with rain rate instead of with hourly rain. That would be a good suggestion for Ambient Weather if someone wanted to make the case for it. Then go again and submit that rain rate be tied to the little rain drops. I do suggest that you do so in a positive constructive way. Because Ed is not to keen on complaints that are not valid. It is working as originally designed. This is merely a suggested improvement. So don't report to Ambient that its broken, because it isn't.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 03, 2019, 09:23:46 PM
Possible Firmware Stability Issue with version 1.4.2 and 1.4.4

I waited a few weeks and decided to upgrade my WS-2000 to 1.4.4. I was still on 1.4.1. So I skipped 1.4.2. I found all kinds of stability problems with 1.4.4.


I then felt that maybe the WiFi firmware may also need to be updated to keep up with the newest Revision Firmware. So I upgraded from 4.1.1 to 4.1.5 on the WiFi firmware. This was difficult to accomplish as it kept failing as the device was very unreliable as I think it kept internally rebooting or falling off the WiFi network (not sure which). After multiple attempts finally completed WiFi firmware upgrade to 4.1.5. Still same issues as before.

Then I decide to downgrade to Revision Firmware 1.4.2. But noticed the same behavior.

Then I decided to go down yet again to Revision Firmware 1.4.1. Ahhhh everything is fixed. WU uploads at 16 seconds, Ambientweather.net uploads at 1 minute, and awnet app never drops WS-2000 console from device list and loads up its configuration instantly.

I then tried to go back to 1.4.4 in case I got a bad flash or something. Nope didn't work. All these issues came back. So back down to 1.4.1 and all is fine again.

At this time I'm recommending staying with Revision Firmware 1.4.1. If you have a new PM2.5 then you'll need to live with these reliability issues to keep using the PM2.5 sensor. I've reported this to Ambient. Hopefully we see a new firmware soon.

UPDATE: New Firmware Version 1.4.5 just released...untested
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on June 03, 2019, 10:50:11 PM
on my awnet app the wu dashboard is blank (no data).
wifi 4.1.5 and firmware ver 4.1.4.

Just ordered the pm2.5 air sensor, guess will see how well that goes........
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 03, 2019, 11:07:09 PM
on my awnet app the wu dashboard is blank (no data).
wifi 4.1.5 and firmware ver 4.1.4.

Just ordered the pm2.5 air sensor, guess will see how well that goes........

The awnet app WU Dashboard is blank (no data) because Ambient has not updated the awnet app to use the newest WU API. Recently WU turned off some old servers and the old API went away. Fine Offset and Ecowitt and other FO clones that use instead the WS View app have an update to fix this problem as they are using the newest WU API. You can run WS View if you would like to see it work. Word of caution though. You can't run WS View and awnet at the same time. You can have them both installed but you must swipe one closed before you open the other. WS View is not a full replacement for awnet app as there are things you can't to in each because of brand differences. But there is some overlap and cross functionality. Bottom line is you can't break anything by trying it. For example with WS View you can't get to Ambientweather Dashboard....it just doesn't show up as an option.

I think you meant to say you are on Revision firmware 1.4.1 (not 4.1.4). If so your PM2.5 will not work unless you upgrade to 1.4.4. But then you'll have the stability problems I mentioned. And yes WiFi firmware 4.1.5 is the latest. Confusing isn't it? I'm not sure that WiFi firmware does anything for the WS-2000. But I suppose it can't hurt to upgrade it when its available. Seems to go lock step on upgrades with the WS-2902A so they are the same code it seems.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on June 04, 2019, 11:01:16 PM
on my awnet app the wu dashboard is blank (no data).
wifi 4.1.5 and firmware ver 4.1.4.

Just ordered the pm2.5 air sensor, guess will see how well that goes........

The awnet app WU Dashboard is blank (no data) because Ambient has not updated the awnet app to use the newest WU API. Recently WU turned off some old servers and the old API went away. Fine Offset and Ecowitt and other FO clones that use instead the WS View app have an update to fix this problem as they are using the newest WU API. You can run WS View if you would like to see it work. Word of caution though. You can't run WS View and awnet at the same time. You can have them both installed but you must swipe one closed before you open the other. WS View is not a full replacement for awnet app as there are things you can't to in each because of brand differences. But there is some overlap and cross functionality. Bottom line is you can't break anything by trying it. For example with WS View you can't get to Ambientweather Dashboard....it just doesn't show up as an option.

I think you meant to say you are on Revision firmware 1.4.1 (not 4.1.4). If so your PM2.5 will not work unless you upgrade to 1.4.4. But then you'll have the stability problems I mentioned. And yes WiFi firmware 4.1.5 is the latest. Confusing isn't it? I'm not sure that WiFi firmware does anything for the WS-2000. But I suppose it can't hurt to upgrade it when its available. Seems to go lock step on upgrades with the WS-2902A so they are the same code it seems.

Correct 1.4.1
My PM2.5 should arrive tomorrow. I currently have no stability issues on my ws2000, at least not that I know of.  My ws2902a I still can't do any updates as it don't show on the awnet app as mention in another thread.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 05, 2019, 03:51:44 PM
The awnet app has the WU Dashboard working today. But I don't think it is because the awnet app was updated but rather because WU has their old servers running today. Recently these old servers are up sometimes and down at other times. We don't know what intentions WU has for these old servers that support the old API.

The proper fix would still be for Ambient to update the awnet app so that WU Dashboard works with the new API reliably instead of still using the old WU API servers.

You can tell when the old WU server are running because you can see your WU station using the Horizon URL:
http://horizon.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KFLWINTE111

Lately even though the old servers may be running the map and radar are empty. It is still a handy site to have when it works because you can see tenths decimal precision for temperature, feels like, wind speed/gusts, dew point...etc. in both the data and the graphs. You also gain History Summary with Yearly and Custom date ranges.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on June 05, 2019, 10:29:45 PM
Renamed my neighborhood in the old site, maybe at some point it will stick in the new site....
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 06, 2019, 06:26:15 AM
Renamed my neighborhood in the old site, maybe at some point it will stick in the new site....

Hmmm. Interesting. There are two possibilities. The old front end may still be able to talk to the back end database or it might not be able to and that data was migrated to the new front end as a one time transfer when the switch occurred.

Let us know if it changes.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: havtrail on June 06, 2019, 10:40:34 AM
A clever approach - let's see if it works. Hope it does...

Rich K.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on June 06, 2019, 06:50:40 PM
YES IT WORKED  or they just fixed it. Either way its working \:D/ =D&gt;

https://www.wunderground.com/weather/us/il/rockford/KILROCKF100
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 06, 2019, 08:14:32 PM
That is awesome that it still synchronized changes. I've updated the Trrllo board to let others know.
https://trello.com/c/koohtgbX

This is worthy of sharing in the WU subforum.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 07, 2019, 10:49:06 AM
June 6 2019 | Version 1.4.5

Changes:

Hopefully this fixes the stability problems I report with 1.4.2. and 1.4.4.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 10, 2019, 06:33:33 PM
WS-2000 has a new firmware page URL:
https://ambientweather.net/help/ambient-weather-ws-2000-firmware-download-center/
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 11, 2019, 05:49:11 AM
June 10 2019 | Version 1.4.6

Changes:

The notes of 1.4.6 say that it fixes WU 16 sec update issue introduced in 1.4.5 but I notice this issue since 1.4.2. The release date is wrong on 1.4.6 as it says June 6th instead of 10th. That was left over from a bad page edit as on the 6th is when 1.4.5 was released.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: zackattack784 on June 15, 2019, 12:57:54 AM
1.4.6 has been terrible for me. I have a WS-2902 console and a WS-2000. The 2000 is my primary and is what updates to Weather Underground. This console is in a window and has direct line of sight to the sensor array. The distance is approximately 50 feet.  The WS2902 is further away with additional walls in between the console and sensor array. The WS2902 is always on full bars. Over the last few days I can’t recall a single time I’ve walked past and seen the WS2000 show full bars for reception. Prior to 1.4.6 both consoles always showed full bars. Hopefully this gets resolved quickly. Anyone else with a similar experience?
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 15, 2019, 06:03:00 AM
Thanks for the feedback Zackattack. I'm still running 1.4.1. Please report your findings to Ambient. But move down to 1.4.1 first as a test to make sure your hardware is still okay.
https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@site.ambientweatherstore.com/ssl/ws2000/
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: zackattack784 on June 15, 2019, 01:48:29 PM
 I dropped back down to 1.4.2 with the same issue. I’m starting to believe this is a console and not a firmware issue.  I’ll reach out to ambient and update the group if I hear anything.

As an aside, I just updated my WS2902 to 4.1.6 and it still doesn’t miss a single 16 second update (with 2 interior walls and an exterior wall with aluminum siding between it and the sensor). Go figure.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 15, 2019, 08:31:09 PM
I dropped back down to 1.4.2 with the same issue. I’m starting to believe this is a console and not a firmware issue.  I’ll reach out to ambient and update the group if I hear anything.

Yes 1.4.2 (and 1.4.4) has issues that I've already confirmed. Which is why I recommended 1.4.1.
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=35949.msg381984#msg381984
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: bvstation on June 16, 2019, 04:39:31 PM
Updated to 1.4.6 since my replacement console I got came with 1.4.4
No issues thus far that I can tell.
My old one which wasn't but a few months old if that just went dim on the left side of it for some reason as in 50% dimmer than the right - was rather odd but they replaced it and the adapter so yay.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: emmerat on June 25, 2019, 01:09:34 PM
Hello!
I am having difficulties updating my firmware. I bought the unit in April, and I've updated the WiFi firmware using my phone. I realized
there was the 2nd firmware when I came here! It was shipped with 1.2.1, and I've been trying to update with a SanDisk 16gb micro SD. I can't get the unit to recognise the SD card, either to do a backup or for the firmware upgrade. It just boots like normal. I have access to both Mac and Windows, so I used my Windows Laptop, older but with a built in SD card reader, to remove the partitions and re-formatted with FAT32. Copy and pasted from the download folder USER.bin. No luck after several tries. Could this be a SanDisk problem? What SD cards are people using? The card is readable by both Mac and Windows laptops.
Thanks,
emmerat
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 25, 2019, 01:38:47 PM
Hello!
I am having difficulties updating my firmware. I bought the unit in April, and I've updated the WiFi firmware using my phone. I realized
there was the 2nd firmware when I came here! It was shipped with 1.2.1, and I've been trying to update with a SanDisk 16gb micro SD. I can't get the unit to recognise the SD card, either to do a backup or for the firmware upgrade. It just boots like normal. I have access to both Mac and Windows, so I used my Windows Laptop, older but with a built in SD card reader, to remove the partitions and re-formatted with FAT32. Copy and pasted from the download folder USER.bin. No luck after several tries. Could this be a SanDisk problem? What SD cards are people using? The card is readable by both Mac and Windows laptops.
Thanks,
emmerat

You are probably using an SDXC type card and it is too big. The recommended type is SDHC and 4 GB and 8 GB sizes are recommended. Maybe only 4 GB is recommended as Ambient just sells a 4 GB SDHC. I'm successfully using an 8 GB SDHC.
https://www.ambientweather.com/kisdc48gb.html

Also the file should be user.bin not USER.bin. Not sure if case makes a difference but just something to check.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: emmerat on June 25, 2019, 02:16:33 PM
Hey Galfert,
Thanks for the help! I saw the link on the AW website for the SD card, but I assumed as long as it was within size specs, I would be good. On the firmware page on AW, it says 4, 8, 16, or 32 would work and I had a 16 ready to go. So, I ordered a Kingston 4 GB microSDHC Class 4 Flash Memory Card SDC4/4GB from Amazon, so I should have it tomorrow or Thursday. If it really is about the type and size of micro SD card, it probably could be a little clearer on the AW website....like SDHC required. With the ever advancing speed of read/write, I wonder how long these slower cards will be available.....I will report back!
Thanks again!
emmerat
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: weatherhound on June 25, 2019, 04:34:35 PM
I got my ws-2000 last month and purchased a 32gb Sandisk micro sd card from Walmart which says SDHC and SDXC compatible. It did the last two updates successfully.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on June 26, 2019, 03:42:23 AM
I have a Samsung Ultra 32Gb in mine and have had no issues whatsoever from new.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 26, 2019, 05:03:53 AM
I have a Samsung Ultra 32Gb in mine and have had no issues whatsoever from new.

I think you mean SanDisk Ultra not Samsung. The SanDisk Ultra is a SDHC type. I think the key requirement is that it be SDHC compatible. The SDHC type only comes in 2 GB to 32 GB sizes.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on June 26, 2019, 05:17:13 AM
ooops as always you are spot on.

I normally only buy Samsung, but on this occasion it looks as though I used an old Sandisk SDHC card I had lying around!
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: emmerat on June 27, 2019, 02:09:00 PM
So, it was indeed my SD card. New one arrived, added the user.bin file, booted up, updated, all good now.
Thanks for all the help!
emmerat
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on June 27, 2019, 02:23:58 PM
So, it was indeed my SD card. New one arrived, added the user.bin file, booted up, updated, all good now.
Thanks for all the help!
emmerat

Good to hear. Now you can keep the SD card in there and it will automatically create a weather data log file. Might come in handy some day.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: bvstation on July 08, 2019, 09:58:19 PM
1.4.7 Wifi firmware is out - not sure of what was changed - updated fine so far.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on July 08, 2019, 10:16:39 PM
1.4.7 Wifi firmware is out - not sure of what was changed - updated fine so far.
There is no 1.4.7 in either WiFi nor Revision firmwares. I think you meant to say 4.1.7 WiFi firmware.


Version 4.1.7:

Improves pairing with Android 9 OS phone.

Which means it is really only pertinent for the WS-2902A.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: chief-david on July 08, 2019, 10:20:48 PM
good. Could not do anything with it on android.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on July 31, 2019, 08:49:01 AM
Version 1.4.8
Changes:
Minor bug fixes.


I don't like it when the change log does not give better descriptions of fixes    :sad:

They also keep getting the date stamp wrong. Page says June 10 but it just came out.
https://ambientweather.net/help/ambient-weather-ws-2000-firmware-download-center/

Although maybe the date stamp is of when the firmware was made and they are now releasing it more than a month later after rigorous testing. But they didn't do this before. We'll know once we install what firmware date shows up on info screen after flashing. Whomever does this first please let us know. I'm not a new firmware guinea pig, especially with poorly documented change logs and I'm not seeing any issues.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: weatherhound on July 31, 2019, 11:24:15 PM
Version 1.4.8
Changes:
Minor bug fixes.


Although maybe the date stamp is of when the firmware was made and they are now releasing it more than a month later after rigorous testing. But they didn't do this before. We'll know once we install what firmware date shows up on info screen after flashing. Whomever does this first please let us know.


I updated to 1.4.8 a few hours ago with no problems so far. Not sure where the firmware date shows up after install, however. Date of firmware does not show in the About screen, just the version number.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on July 31, 2019, 11:34:31 PM
Oh okay thank you for the update. I thought the date showed on the info screen.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: hooper on August 02, 2019, 03:30:30 PM
I am running 1.4.7 still. Weird issue I have noticed is that the array and the console have 100% signal all day. Then at some point during the night like say 4 or 5am before sunrise the connection drops. Once the sun comes up, the connection goes back to 100%.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on August 02, 2019, 04:02:43 PM
I am running 1.4.7 still. Weird issue I have noticed is that the array and the console have 100% signal all day. Then at some point during the night like say 4 or 5am before sunrise the connection drops. Once the sun comes up, the connection goes back to 100%.

Check your AA batteries. It is possible that your batteries are depleted and the super capacitor barely ran the unit overnight. Then right before sun up the unit has used up the super capacitor and the backup batteries are not supplying enough power to reliably continue transmitting. Then at sunrise the unit then runs on solar power and charges the super capacitor getting it ready for the next night. I also helped a neighbor with their station because the Osprey sensor was consuming batteries like crazy. Turns out the unit was placed in a too shaded spot that was not enough to charge up the super capacitor enough and caused the unit to basically run on batteries all night instead of having a fully charged super capacitor.

To recap the outdoor sensor has 3 sources of power:
- Solar panel
- Super capacitor (charged by the solar panel)
- AA batteries (not rechargeable by solar panel - use alkaline or lithium for cold climates)

A set of AA batteries should last 2 to 3 years according to the manufacture if the unit is sited properly. There is no benefit to using rechargeable batteries because of added cost and lower performance voltages and constant aggravation of needing to remove to recharge them.

Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: hooper on August 02, 2019, 08:11:22 PM
Check your AA batteries. It is possible that your batteries are depleted and the super capacitor barely ran the unit overnight. Then right before sun up the unit has used up the super capacitor and the backup batteries are not supplying enough power to reliably continue transmitting. Then at sunrise the unit then runs on solar power and charges the super capacitor getting it ready for the next night. I also helped a neighbor with their station because the Osprey sensor was consuming batteries like crazy. Turns out the unit was placed in a too shaded spot that was not enough to charge up the super capacitor enough and caused the unit to basically run on batteries all night instead of having a fully charged super capacitor.

To recap the outdoor sensor has 3 sources of power:
- Solar panel
- Super capacitor (charged by the solar panel)
- AA batteries (not rechargeable by solar panel - use alkaline or lithium for cold climates)

A set of AA batteries should last 2 to 3 years according to the manufacture if the unit is sited properly. There is no benefit to using rechargeable batteries because of added cost and lower performance voltages and constant aggravation of needing to remove to recharge them.
Wow. Thanks for the great info. I just put fresh lithium batteries in the unit when I got the unit about 2 weeks ago. I live in CO and the unit is in full sun from sunrise to sunset. Lots and lots of sun. It also doesn't happen every night....
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on August 02, 2019, 08:53:57 PM
Wow. Thanks for the great info. I just put fresh lithium batteries in the unit when I got the unit about 2 weeks ago. I live in CO and the unit is in full sun from sunrise to sunset. Lots and lots of sun. It also doesn't happen every night....

Well then it isn't the batteries nor siting. Maybe it's the distance and at that time there is just more interference. Maybe dew on the antenna portrusion causing just that extra bit of signal loss. That would be about the right time for dew to form.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on September 03, 2019, 09:30:36 PM
The GW1000 newest firmware 1.5.1 now supports:


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Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on September 04, 2019, 03:05:11 AM
Exciting news...I am looking forward to the lightning detector especially to see what it can do.
It just seems like a train of new goodies coming..

Ultrasonic Anemometer
Lightning detector
Leakage detector
Weather Cams (2 models)
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: ALEEF02 on September 05, 2019, 04:13:16 PM
Exciting news...I am looking forward to the lightning detector especially to see what it can do.
It just seems like a train of new goodies coming..

Ultrasonic Anemometer
Lightning detector
Leakage detector
Weather Cams (2 models)

Can I get links to these new products?
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: krojan on September 06, 2019, 01:14:57 AM
Exciting news...I am looking forward to the lightning detector especially to see what it can do.
It just seems like a train of new goodies coming..

Ultrasonic Anemometer
Lightning detector
Leakage detector
Weather Cams (2 models)

Can I get links to these new products?

Unfortunately, they are not yet on sale.
Keep checking page:
http://www.ecowitt.com/ or
https://twitter.com/ecowittweather
They should appear here first.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on September 06, 2019, 03:37:52 AM
The current hope is that they will be released for public sale this calendar year, but as with any product being developed this may slip.
I'll post when they are available.

I have the WS-80 Ultrasonic anemometer under test but this is an early unit and the production units should be available very soon.
This will likely be the first of the new releases.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on November 05, 2019, 06:34:09 AM
WS-2000 New Firmware Released

  November 4 2019 | Version 1.5.3

Changes:


https://ambientweather.net/help/ambient-weather-ws-2000-firmware-download-center/

The big news is that the soil sensor is finally coming to Ambient! If you have an Ecowitt soil sensor please test to see if it can be picked up by the WS-2000 and report back to this thread. It may or not work. Most Ecowitt sensors are not picked up by Ambient consoles. The exception for now seems to be the stand alone rain gauge. But Ecowitt consoles do pickup all Ambient sensors, and all other Fine Offset clone branded sensors.

This was the longest stretch yet ever for the WS-2000 without a firmware update. The previous one was June 2019.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: krojan on November 05, 2019, 11:10:27 AM
I installed this software V1.5.3 from the Ambient Weather website for the Ecowitt HP2551-C station.
Almost everything works as it should.
The only minus: I have three soil moisture sensors and the station receives a signal from all, but only shows from the first.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on November 05, 2019, 11:23:38 AM
krojan,
Well you've done something I was not expecting to be tested, putting Ambient firmware on Ecowitt HP2551-C. It might just be by design of the Ambient firmware to only show the first soil sensor but pick them all up and then these additional ones only then show up on Ambientweather.net. I say this because I've seen Ambient do this before with the ObserverIP for example where it supported extra temp/hum sensors but they didn't show up in the Live Data page of the device (except for the first one) but they did all show up online at Ambientweather.net. Then again maybe it is a bug of this new firmware or maybe there is some firmware incompatibility with your Ecowitt stuff.

I'm still hoping to hear from someone with Ambient WS-2000 and Ecowitt soil sensors and seeing how that goes.

Thank you for testing.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on November 05, 2019, 11:31:12 AM
krojan,
Can you post a screenshot of what the HP2551-C looks like with Ambient firmware. Don't bother if you've already changed back to Ecowitt firmware. I also want to see Ecowitt firmware and what multiple soil sensors looks like as to where they all show up. Does it scroll through them? Or are they all at once?

Post it to this thread or to the Ecowitt firmware thread where you also mention this test.
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=37197.msg392069#msg392069
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: krojan on November 05, 2019, 11:41:13 AM
I suspect that Ecowitt firmware is the same as AmbientWeather.
Earlier I downloaded the right software from Ambient to Conrad HP1001 and WH2600, and it always worked.
The PM2.5 sensor has only one.
I have three soil moisture sensors and only one appears on the console. The one who first registered to the console.
I don't read and write too quickly with the translator.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on November 05, 2019, 11:48:23 AM
I didn't even know that you are using a translator. Everything you say is perfect. Amazing technology. Thank you for your effort in being a member of this forum.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on November 05, 2019, 12:46:50 PM
Just heard from Ambient regarding availability of soil sensors...Q1 2020. Which is just an estimate.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on November 05, 2019, 09:14:09 PM
Just did the upgrade to 1.5.3.

Although my PM2.5 censor shows on the display as indoors, it does not show in the app or web page. Must be doing something wrong??
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on November 05, 2019, 10:20:26 PM
Just did the upgrade to 1.5.3.

Although my PM2.5 censor shows on the display as indoors, it does not show in the app or web page. Must be doing something wrong??

Finally it started to show up on the app and pc. Note: the pm2.5 now shows on the console as in and out both with different readings, I only have 1 indoors.

Update this morning : console showing indoor pm2.5 / app & pc not showing.
Either I'm doing something wrong or another update is in order.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on November 06, 2019, 05:20:55 AM
Just did the upgrade to 1.5.3.

Although my PM2.5 censor shows on the display as indoors, it does not show in the app or web page. Must be doing something wrong??

Finally it started to show up on the app and pc. Note: the pm2.5 now shows on the console as in and out both with different readings, I only have 1 indoors.

Update this morning : console showing indoor pm2.5 / app & pc not showing.
Either I'm doing something wrong, indoor is not for the app / pc or another update is in order.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Frogbit61 on November 06, 2019, 11:17:00 AM
Just did the upgrade to 1.5.3.

Although my PM2.5 censor shows on the display as indoors, it does not show in the app or web page. Must be doing something wrong??

Finally it started to show up on the app and pc. Note: the pm2.5 now shows on the console as in and out both with different readings, I only have 1 indoors.

Update this morning : console showing indoor pm2.5 / app & pc not showing.
Either I'm doing something wrong, indoor is not for the app / pc or another update is in order.

Had to go into settings and add the ID took a few minuets to show up
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on November 06, 2019, 11:32:11 AM
The PM2.5 only sends data once every 10 minutes.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: dunc1ca on November 06, 2019, 01:49:31 PM
I would still like to see a few features included in the WS-2000 firmware.

1.  An ability to customise the colour ring surrounding the temperature and choose its temperature ranges.  The current scheme is obviously tailored to Fahrenheit, ie. it doesn't change colour at the most important point... 0°C.

2.  Change the gust speed to last longer.  WMO standard says that gusts are the highest speed in the last 10 minutes.  Anything shorter than 1 minute means that gusts may not be captured in historical data.  WU only reports every 5 minutes, PWS every 1 minute.  The WS-2000 is only the past 16 seconds.

3.  Include kPa as a unit of measure for barometric pressure.  This is the standard unit for reporting weather in Canada.

4.  Fix formatting errors.  It's hPa, not hpa.  It's W/m², not w/m².  It's µg/m³, not ug/m³.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on November 06, 2019, 09:37:45 PM
Just did the upgrade to 1.5.3.

Although my PM2.5 censor shows on the display as indoors, it does not show in the app or web page. Must be doing something wrong??

 

Finally it started to show up on the app and pc. Note: the pm2.5 now shows on the console as in and out both with different readings, I only have 1 indoors.

Update this morning : console showing indoor pm2.5 / app & pc not showing.
Either I'm doing something wrong, indoor is not for the app / pc or another update is in order.

Had to go into settings and add the ID took a few minuets to show up

Here is what I think may be happening: If you set the pm2.5 as indoor on the console the data will not show in Ambient weather or the app. Only when the pm2.5 is set as outdoor will it show.

Now as to the setting the ID, I'm not 100 percent sure what I did to get it work, or fully understand that setting area of the console.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Sir_MAK on November 07, 2019, 08:27:06 AM
WS-2000 New Firmware Released

  November 4 2019 | Version 1.5.3

Changes:

  • Sensors can be managed and disabled on the setup page.
  • Supports 8 channel soil moisture and temperature sensors.
  • Supports calibration for soil moisture and temperature sensors.
  • Supports indoor PM2.5 sensor.
  • Corrected spelling errors.
  • German language supported.
  • Sensor handling optimization.

https://ambientweather.net/help/ambient-weather-ws-2000-firmware-download-center/

The big news is that the soil sensor is finally coming to Ambient! If you have an Ecowitt soil sensor please test to see if it can be picked up by the WS-2000 and report back to this thread. It may or not work. Most Ecowitt sensors are not picked up by Ambient consoles. The exception for now seems to be the stand alone rain gauge. But Ecowitt consoles do pickup all Ambient sensors, and all other Fine Offset clone branded sensors.

This was the longest stretch yet ever for the WS-2000 without a firmware update. The previous one was June 2019.

Neither my PM2.5 nor soil sensor from Ecowitt report on the WS-2000 with this firmware.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on November 07, 2019, 09:28:31 AM
Neither my PM2.5 nor soil sensor from Ecowitt report on the WS-2000 with this firmware.

Bummer! Thank you for this information. I've been holding out on soil sensors because I wanted them to show up on my WS-2000. I guess at this point I can wait till Q1 2020. But by then the Ecowitt lightning sensor might be out and then it will be something else I can't have on my display. I should maybe just get an HP2551-C.

I really don't see how Ambient is protecting their sales by limiting accessory sensor compatibility. This strategy only works if they were to carry all the extra sensors. Since they don't then the Ecowitt stations with compete sensor options is the better choice.

If I were to do it all over again I would recommend Ecowitt HP2551-C instead of a WS-2000-C and then add whatever sensors you want and a GW1000 with a WeatherBridge (fully licensed Meteobridge with Ambient license) to then also have Ambientweather.net and all the other weather services. Plus you can then also run great local software like Weather-Display and WeeWx.

Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Mandrake on November 07, 2019, 10:24:42 AM
I reckon they must be doing something clever like using different channels for the Ambient sensors.
Its the only way I can think that they can be controlling what sensors they see or not.
Its a shame we don't have anyone who can 'play' with the firmware! Be nice for the Ambient folks to get the best of all worlds.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on December 09, 2019, 12:22:53 PM
New WS-2000 Firmware Released

https://ambientweather.net/help/ambient-weather-ws-2000-firmware-download-center/

December 8 2019 | Version 1.5.7

Changes:

Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on January 02, 2020, 08:15:12 PM
Firmware Update
December 25, 2019 | Version 1.5.8

https://ambientweather.net/help/ambient-weather-ws-2000-firmware-download-center/

Changes:

Fixed wind gust reporting issue.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on January 02, 2020, 09:31:42 PM
I didn't notice any wind gust reporting issues. But then again that may have been a bug introduced with 1.5.7 which I'm not yet running as I'm still on 1.5.3. Did anyone notice any wind gust issues with 1.5.7. The change log is vague because the wind gust issue could really just be affecting one service; WU, Ambientweather.net, WeatherCloud, or the display itself.....and I suppose it could have been affecting the whole thing too in regards to wind gusts. Part of the me not noticing is because I do all data upload via the GW1000 and the Metebridge so my WS-2000 is just a display. Just wondering what anyone else has noticed regarding this.

Wish the change long provided more details  :???:
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on January 02, 2020, 09:37:51 PM
No wind gust reporting issues on my end, at least not known to me.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: K5GHS on January 04, 2020, 07:58:38 PM
Just got this station on the 2nd.  Thanks for this thread, updated both firmwares, so far no problems.  Hopefully the soil support and other sensors will come soon!  I do have the outdoor air quality sensor and a few extra ones around the house already.  I'll be watching this thread for sure!
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on February 12, 2020, 07:59:13 AM
We now know what happens when you put the Ecowitt HP2551-C Revision firmware onto the Ambient WS-2000.

https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=38752.0

TL;DR
It accomplishes nothing to change the Revision firmware because the WiFi firmware is the critical part (for sensor compatibility and site uploads) that cannot be changed nor downgraded. The WS-2000 and HP2551-C have two distinct firmware to make the devices work; the Revision firmware (loaded by SD card) and the WiFi firmware (loaded by mobile app update procedure).
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: rodentkj on April 01, 2020, 04:09:43 PM
New Firmware.
March 27th, 2020 - Version 1.6.0

Added soil moisture sensor reporting to AmbientWeather.net
Added lighting detection reporting to AmbientWeather.net
Added leak detection reporting to AmbientWeather.net


Also updated the Wifi firmware to 4.20.

Version 4.2.0:

    Supports lightning detection data to AmbientWeather.net (Model WS-2000 and WS-5000 only).
    Supports leak detection data to AmbientWeather.net (Model WS-2000 and WS-5000 only).
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: LeeS on April 01, 2020, 07:15:18 PM
Thanks  [tup]  Updated both..


(the latest WS-2000 manual is still 2.9)
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: rodentkj on May 12, 2020, 10:57:17 AM
A few firmware updates since my last post

April 14, 2020 | Version 1.6.1

Changes:
Finalized leak detection reporting to AmbientWeather.net
Supports Low Battery for WS-5000 sensor array
Lightning detection units of measure tied to wind speed units of measure (if wind units of measure is m/s, km/h, or bft, lightning is km; if wind units of measure is mph, ft / second, lightning is miles; if wind units of measure is knots, lighting is nautical miles (nmi).


Wifi firmware 4.2.1 and 4.2.2

Changes:
Version 4.2.2:
WS-5000: Supports low battery indicator push to AmbientWeather.net server.

Version 4.2.1:
Supports leak detector, soil moisture sensor data push to AmbientWeather.net server.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: rodentkj on June 08, 2020, 05:52:55 PM
New firmware release
Located here
https://help.ambientweather.net/help/ambient-weather-ws-2000-firmware-download-center/ (https://help.ambientweather.net/help/ambient-weather-ws-2000-firmware-download-center/)


June 8, 2020 | Version 1.6.3
Changes: Supports leak detectors

Wifi Firmware
Version 4.2.4:
Supports alert if leak detector is offline for 10 minutes.
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: WeatherEnthusiastNZ on June 12, 2020, 10:54:58 PM
Why do Ambient not include the dates for the Wifi Firmware updates?
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: funsutton on June 12, 2020, 11:39:18 PM
And now we have....

June 12, 2020 | Version 1.6.4

Changes:

Fixes issue with PM2.5 IN not displaying on the console, introduced in Version 1.6.3.
Leak detector icon turns orange on the display console if the sensor loses communication for 10 minutes.

https://help.ambientweather.net/help/ambient-weather-ws-2000-firmware-download-center/
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on June 14, 2020, 10:07:48 PM
And now we have....

June 12, 2020 | Version 1.6.4

Changes:

Fixes issue with PM2.5 IN not displaying on the console, introduced in Version 1.6.3.
Leak detector icon turns orange on the display console if the sensor loses communication for 10 minutes.

https://help.ambientweather.net/help/ambient-weather-ws-2000-firmware-download-center/

Awsum! I reported the pm2.5 issue here on forum and to Ambient. Ed said it was a bug. will see if it works.
https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=39675.0
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Platokidd on June 15, 2020, 06:11:55 PM
Did the upgrade (1.6.4) and both pm2.5 sensors are working.  [tup]
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: Jai Soone on June 15, 2020, 07:32:54 PM
FWIW, the ambient weather Bird Spike Kit for the WS-2000 is item # WS-2902-RAINSPIKE and it looks exactly like ecowitt BS0001 - Detachable Bird Spikes for Rain Gauge (Small Size). For the ambient weather W-5000 there is the WS-5000-RAINSPIKE which probably matches ecowitt's BS0002 - Detachable Bird Spikes for Rain Gauge (Large Size).
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: rodentkj on July 21, 2020, 01:03:47 PM
New Wifi firmware out.

Version 4.2.6:
Fixes issues with connecting to Arris and Asus routers.

https://help.ambientweather.net/help/firmware-changes-ws-2902a/
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: galfert on November 18, 2020, 09:06:45 AM
November 17, 2020 | Version 1.6.9

Changes:

EDIT: They have a typo in the release notes. Latest WiFi firmware is 4.2.8 not 2.4.8.
UPDATE: They have corrected the WiFi firmware version typo in the release notes.

** A little extra work required for this firmware update. The file is zipped unlike previous versions where it was a straight .bin. Also the zip content is called factory_V1.6.9.bin instead of the more customary user.bin. I would recommend to unzip...then rename to just user.bin in order to be able to flash as normal. If you are runninng a very old firmware then you'll need to call the new file factory.bin instead of user.bin. With recent consoles either name works, but user.bin is nicer in that it initiates automatically when inserted and it cleans up and deletes the source file and automatically reboots to make the card ready for the next upgrade. When you name the file factory.bin then these automatic steps do not occur.

UPDATE: They have updated the download. It is no longer zipped. But it is still called factory_V1.6.9.bin which requires renaming to user.bin or factory.bin to be able to be used.


Download page:
https://help.ambientweather.net/help/ambient-weather-ws-2000-firmware-download-center/

Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: LeeS on November 18, 2020, 09:51:23 AM
November 17, 2020 | Version 1.6.9

Changes:

  • Add path for custom server setup. Wifi firmware will need to be upgraded to 2.4.8 or later.
  • Revise PM2.5、PM10、CO2  average buffer to be reset when newly registered again.


** A little extra work required for this firmware update. The file is zipped unlike previous versions where it was a straight .bin. Also the zip content is called factory_V1.6.9.bin instead of the more customary user.bin. I would recommend to unzip...then rename to just user.bin in order to be able to flash as normal.

WiFi 4.2.8 ??
Title: Re: WS-2000 Firmware Tips
Post by: rodentkj on November 18, 2020, 10:52:46 AM

WiFi 4.2.8 ??

No mention of it on the Wifi firmware page https://help.ambientweather.net/help/firmware-changes-ws-2902a/ (https://help.ambientweather.net/help/firmware-changes-ws-2902a/)
However, was offered as an update when I ran awnet.
Title: Re: WS-2000 / WS-5000 Firmware Tips - Firmware Updates
Post by: galfert on November 18, 2020, 11:07:59 AM
Obviously they have a typo in the release notes. The current WiFi firmware is 4.2.8 ....not 2.4.8  SMH.

UPDATE: They fixed the typo.
Title: Re: WS-2000 / WS-5000 Firmware Tips - Firmware Updates
Post by: Platokidd on November 18, 2020, 09:36:31 PM
1.6.9 update seems to be removed or broke on the ambient website..
Title: Re: WS-2000 / WS-5000 Firmware Tips - Firmware Updates
Post by: rodentkj on November 18, 2020, 11:16:04 PM
1.6.9 update seems to be removed or broke on the ambient website..

Yup. And is not listed here either
https://p10.secure.hostingprod.com/@site.ambientweatherstore.com/ssl/ws2000/