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Weather Station Hardware => Blitzortung => Topic started by: saratogaWX on August 23, 2013, 03:01:40 PM
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You silver tongued devils.. you are having so much fun with Blitzortung that I just couldn't resist joining in and picking up a soldering iron after a 40 year hiatus. I've sent payment to Egon for a kit today, and visited Fry's Electronics to pick up the tools/stuff needed. Seems my son had been raiding my tools over the years, and the electronic stuff was strangely missing.. go figure. Anyway, I now have a temperature-controlled soldering station (replacing my ancient Weller/non temp controlled). If I can just get my Panaflex circuit board vice back from him, I'll be set.
I'll keep you posted on the build when the kit arrives. Thanks to all who've populated the Blitzortung board with great questions and answers .. I feel better prepared to embark on this do-it-yourself project thanks to your shared knowledge!
Best regards,
Ken
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Ken,
Welcome to the "Blitzortung gang" - I look forward to seeing a wxblitz.php template :grin:
Chris
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If anybody should be on net with us, it's you Ken!...
Yep, we've had a lot of fun blasting back and forth on this and a couple other forums.
The build isn't as difficult as it might seem, especially since many of us have already made the goofs and reported the fixes and 'don't do's".
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Ken,
Welcome to the "Blitzortung gang" - I look forward to seeing a wxblitz.php template :grin:
Chris
Easy Chris... let 'im build 'is kit first!
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Easy Chris... let 'im build 'is kit first!
It is just coincidence that Ken now posts about joining Blitzortung. I am today having problems integrating MyLightningDetection into my template site. I will not go into it further at the moment as I do not want to distract Ken from getting his RED up and running.
My own RED system is "in the post" and will sit along my 6.8 system.
Chris
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Easy Chris... let 'im build 'is kit first!
It is just coincidence that Ken now posts about joining Blitzortung. I am today having problems integrating MyLightningDetection into my template site. I will not go into it further at the moment as I do not want to distract Ken from getting his RED up and running.
My own RED system is "in the post" and will sit along my 6.8 system.
Chris
Don's got the old version running stand-alone http://projectmf.homelinux.com/mylightningdetection/ without any integration but both of us are kinda holding off until Tobi and Egon and the crew get all the nuts and bolts in place... Tobi implies a lot of new code to integrate Red...
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You silver tongued devils.. you are having so much fun with Blitzortung that I just couldn't resist joining in and picking up a soldering iron after a 40 year hiatus. I've sent payment to Egon for a kit today, and visited Fry's Electronics to pick up the tools/stuff needed. Seems my son had been raiding my tools over the years, and the electronic stuff was strangely missing.. go figure. Anyway, I now have a temperature-controlled soldering station (replacing my ancient Weller/non temp controlled). If I can just get my Panaflex circuit board vice back from him, I'll be set.
I'll keep you posted on the build when the kit arrives. Thanks to all who've populated the Blitzortung board with great questions and answers .. I feel better prepared to embark on this do-it-yourself project thanks to your shared knowledge!
Best regards,
Ken
It's good to see somebody else got sucked into this adventure, Ken. I'm awaiting my RED system kit which should be here in another week. My last fling at extensive soldering was my Heathkit ID-5001 I assembled on a card table in my family room, and that was nigh on 25 yrs. ago. The RED system looks like finer work for my now older eyes and hands. I just ordered some helper tools on Amazon.com Prime, and when everything arrives I'll pore over all of the instructions, posts, and photos I can find before setting heat and solder to anything.
I think this is an incredible project spearheaded by a very enthusiastic group with results that are almost unbelievable. I've got to try to join in, too.
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Glad you guys could join us. :grin: Seriously, the hardest part for me was soldering the SMD's and the GPS onto the board, plus reading the gray print on a black background on the IC's. If you'll follow FloridaKen tips on the Blitzortung board, you'll have no issues. I did meter every resistor, though. Reading the color bands on the resistors with a blue background does not work well. Very difficult to distinguish colors.
Building the version 2 flat panel antenna was pretty easy, though. I like the idea of hiding it in a plastic garbage can. Less conspicuous that way.
John
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Yep.. I was expecting to do a template page for the display of Blitzortung data, but I'll need to get, build, install my RED system first.
Love this weather hobby.. always new projects coming up :)
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I just got the new version (just released) going. The stats and station selection don't work, but the maps are fine. There is some basic strike data and graphs available.
Don
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Easy Chris... let 'im build 'is kit first!
It is just coincidence that Ken now posts about joining Blitzortung. I am today having problems integrating MyLightningDetection into my template site. I will not go into it further at the moment as I do not want to distract Ken from getting his RED up and running.
My own RED system is "in the post" and will sit along my 6.8 system.
Chris
Don's got the old version running stand-alone http://projectmf.homelinux.com/mylightningdetection/ without any integration but both of us are kinda holding off until Tobi and Egon and the crew get all the nuts and bolts in place... Tobi implies a lot of new code to integrate Red...
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I placed my order today as well. Reported this on another post.
Does anyone know how many red systems are up and running in the US?
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I placed my order today as well. Reported this on another post.
Does anyone know how many red systems are up and running in the US?
I believe 9 Reds, as of the moment, and 10 older greens, with additional two stations offline, as of 11:16pm EDT tonight...
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WELCOME KEN - \:D/ =D>
Glad to see you've pulled the trigger too. If we can only convince Chris (SLOWeather) to do the same then we'll have some pretty good fixes for west coast lightning. There is already a RED system in El Dorado Hills, Ca and another north of me in Sparks that is in the assembly phase like I am.
I'm in the process of finishing up my Ver2 of the panel loop antenna and hope to be finished this weekend. Then, once my anti-static mat and some miscellaneous tools arrive, I'll begin inventorying and assembling the kit. With our inherently low humidity levels here (5-20% RH) I don't want to take a chance on destroying an IC so will wait until the anti-static mat arrives to do anything with the kit components.
Unfortunately, I may get interrupted in the middle of this building. My brother-in-law in North Carolina just passed away after cancer surgery and I may have to make a trip back there to help my sister move closer to her daughter in Kentucky. The move was in the works but the discovery of him having stomach cancer and then surgery obviously wasn't in the plan for them. I won't know the exact timing for another few weeks.
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I placed my order today as well. Reported this on another post.
Does anyone know how many red systems are up and running in the US?
I believe 9 Reds, as of the moment, and 10 older greens, with additional two stations offline, as of 11:16pm EDT tonight...
Thanks Cutty
Baed on all of the discussions that number will grow pretty quickly.
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Just received the "It's shipped" email from Egon. :grin:
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FYI...just got an email saying Radio Shack has 30% of all their Pro-Line Tools for a limited time...
Nancy
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I received word from Egon that my RED kit has shipped and would take about 10 days to arrive. <like kid waiting for Christmas morning>
I've got all the tools needed, but thanks for the info Nancy .. I did pick up a couple of things at Radio Shack already.
So, for reference, here's my tool kit at ready:
Soldering station (digital temperature control) Hakko FX-888D from Frys
Panavice PC board workstation (from Frys)
Extech digital multimeter and red/black mini-hook probes(from Frys)
Small flush-cut pliers
Small short nose pliers
X-lock tweezers (self locking)
Solder aid tool kit (heat sink, etc.)
Solder (63/37 and 62/36/2)
Solder wick, spudger kit, flux pen, SMD removal kit, desolder pump (Still locating the Flux Off can .. none at Frys)
Anti-static mat+wrist cable
Assorted size shrink-wrap and low-cost heater tool
22gauge solid tinned copper hookup wire in various colors
binocular magnifier (head-worn w/LED lights)
lots of light for older eyes :)
Best regards,
Ken
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Ken,
(Still locating the Flux Off can .. none at Frys)
I bought mine from this outfit. They ship really quickly from Ohio to Michigan. I have had good service with them.
http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/20-1960 (http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/20-1960)
Greg H.
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I received word from Egon that my RED kit has shipped and would take about 10 days to arrive. <like kid waiting for Christmas morning>
I've got all the tools needed, but thanks for the info Nancy .. I did pick up a couple of things at Radio Shack already.
So, for reference, here's my tool kit at ready:
Soldering station (digital temperature control) Hakko FX-888D from Frys
Panavice PC board workstation (from Frys)
Extech digital multimeter and red/black mini-hook probes(from Frys)
Small flush-cut pliers
Small short nose pliers
X-lock tweezers (self locking)
Solder aid tool kit (heat sink, etc.)
Solder (63/37 and 62/36/2)
Solder wick, spudger kit, flux pen, SMD removal kit, desolder pump (Still locating the Flux Off can .. none at Frys)
Anti-static mat+wrist cable
Assorted size shrink-wrap and low-cost heater tool
22gauge solid tinned copper hookup wire in various colors
binocular magnifier (head-worn w/LED lights)
lots of light for older eyes :)
Best regards,
Ken
I have no clue how I got mine built in two hours with linesman's pliers, radiator solder and a propane torch... :twisted:
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I'd add a flux pen to the kit. Prepping the SMD pads of the op-amps and GPS module with this prior to soldering really helps flow the solder with minimum heat/contact time.
I used the white, round container of rosin flux gel from Radio Shack - it does the same thing. Just apply with a cotton swab.
Don
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Ken,
I'm jealous that you have so many Fry's close-by. I didn't get started on this Blitzortung kick until AFTER I returned from San Jose a month or two ago. Just wish I had known exactly what I would have needed then. Oh well, most stuff ships pretty quickly so the wait hasn't been too bad. I just miss the browsing of the aisles and seeing all the goodies at Fry's... I hope to have the rest of my tools this week or next then I can get started on the RED kit assembly.
I did pick up a white plastic tub of the Radio Shack solder flux to use. My old flux had turned to liquid and I didn't want to take a chance using it.
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Hi All,
Congrats to all the kit builders over here. I was thinking about this project but kinda nixed the idea because of my location out here in the Pacific. Rare Lightning Storms for one and the not having a good triangulation to put a fix on the storm location.
A bit of suggestion about using flux. Too much flux can cause some issues, flowing too much away from where solder is not needed. If you are in a high humidity area, the fluxed area can be corrosive in time, so a good cleaner to wash away any residue of flux. I used acetone with a good brush whenever possible to wash away flux in the pre-surface mount components, so I don't know how acetone will affect the "modern" components, especially plastic parts.
Good luck with this project to all.
Regards,
--Stan Y.
Maui, Hawaii
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Can someone tell me how to buy a kit or what the price is?
I found the web page and sent emails but have not received a reply.
Randy
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Can someone tell me how to buy a kit or what the price is?
I found the web page and sent emails but have not received a reply.
Randy
Randy,
Based on some earlier messages, Egon, who handles the orders is on vacation and won't be back until around September 10. If you have sent your email, I would suggest just being patient until he gets back. Egon is very good about responding to questions and orders. Your timing just happens to be bad. Did you go to the http://blitzortung.org (http://blitzortung.org) webpage (Cover your Area tab) and submit your information request from there? If not, that is where you have to initiate the request.
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Hi All,
Congrats to all the kit builders over here. I was thinking about this project but kinda nixed the idea because of my location out here in the Pacific. Rare Lightning Storms for one and the not having a good triangulation to put a fix on the storm location.
A bit of suggestion about using flux. Too much flux can cause some issues, flowing too much away from where solder is not needed. If you are in a high humidity area, the fluxed area can be corrosive in time, so a good cleaner to wash away any residue of flux. I used acetone with a good brush whenever possible to wash away flux in the pre-surface mount components, so I don't know how acetone will affect the "modern" components, especially plastic parts.
Good luck with this project to all.
Regards,
--Stan Y.
Maui, Hawaii
Stan,
You need to go on a "new WXFORUM member" campaign for the islands! It would be great to have more Hawaiian feeds. I can't believe there aren't plenty of Davis VP2 users in Hawaii. All you need is a few more sensors to be able to get Blitzortung coordinates. However, as I remember it, while living in the islands (on the windward side of Oahu ) we had very little in the way of lightning activity.
There is a possibility that, as we install Blitzortung systems on the west coast of the US mainland, we may begin detecting some Hawaiian activity. The sensor range is great and all it takes is for four or more stations to capture a strike and be plotted. Only time will tell us an answer to that question.
Anyway - great website you have!
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Hi Stan,
It would be great for you to have one there. There is a detector in Martinique and Columbia, South America, and they still contribute to the North America Map.
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Wow! Wish my boss would give me that much time off. :shock:
I went to the web page you suggested and resubmitted my request.
Randy
Can someone tell me how to buy a kit or what the price is?
I found the web page and sent emails but have not received a reply.
Randy
Randy,
Based on some earlier messages, Egon, who handles the orders is on vacation and won't be back until around September 10. If you have sent your email, I would suggest just being patient until he gets back. Egon is very good about responding to questions and orders. Your timing just happens to be bad. Did you go to the http://blitzortung.org (http://blitzortung.org) webpage (Cover your Area tab) and submit your information request from there? If not, that is where you have to initiate the request.
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Wow! Wish my boss would give me that much time off. :shock:
I went to the web page you suggested and resubmitted my request.
Randy
Can someone tell me how to buy a kit or what the price is?
I found the web page and sent emails but have not received a reply.
Randy,
Based on some earlier messages, Egon, who handles the orders is on vacation and won't be back until around September 10. If you have sent your email, I would suggest just being patient until he gets back. Egon is very good about responding to questions and orders. Your timing just happens to be bad. Did you go to the http://blitzortung.org (http://blitzortung.org) webpage (Cover your Area tab) and submit your information request from there? If not, that is where you have to initiate the request.
Randy, I'm sure he will contact as soon as he can. He is really good about getting back to people.
Enjoy!!
Joe
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Hi,
Thanks for the encouragement Don and sacreyweather. We usually experience a couple of electrical storms in a year at most. Most of the storms usually are off shore and kinda distant from the islands. So will see if it warrants the expense.
Don, thanks for the comment on my web site. Many have helped in the development from the forums. As most, it is an on going work in progress and this blitzortung.org is one of them.
Regards,
--Stan Y.
Maui, Hawaii
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Just jumped in and placed my order today... Moving next week so I have plenty to do before I can think about putting it together. First I'll need to get my Davis VP2 up and running at the new place.
Hopefully I'll help fill out the network. I'm in the Kansas City metro...
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Just jumped in and placed my order today... Moving next week so I have plenty to do before I can think about putting it together. First I'll need to get my Davis VP2 up and running at the new place.
Hopefully I'll help fill out the network. I'm in the Kansas City metro...
Yo! That will help! Welcome aboard!
Mike
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Just jumped in and placed my order today... Moving next week so I have plenty to do before I can think about putting it together. First I'll need to get my Davis VP2 up and running at the new place.
Hopefully I'll help fill out the network. I'm in the Kansas City metro...
I'm west of you in Hays,KS. When I move this summer I might look into this project.