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Ahill:

--- Quote from: davidmc36 on March 17, 2024, 03:04:12 PM ---It sounds like Data Storage is very important to you.

Cumulus MX on RPi Zero W with MeteoPi Logger will allow lots of data storage (use large SD Card), local network viewing on your PC and phone ( expandable to WAN access), and do it all with no ongoing costs to store data.

WAN access could be done "In House" with proper security protocols, or for a modest cost, hosted at a sever. The Cumulus software simply sends data to your host:

https://www.morewoodweather.ca/CumulusMX/gauges.htm



Hmmmmm. On review. It's not so easy if all you have is 6313 console. Can you purchase with older style still?

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Well actually i was only planning on getting the 6312 console.
I don’t know if i would say data is super important but would just like to send to cwop, wu. Frequency of 5 minutes and view everything either on console, phone or pc.
As for history the length of time(years) is more important than frequency.
The only other thing i might consider doing, and thats a big might, is some sort of weather webpage similar to what some members on here have. Can the live console data that goes to cwop, wu etc go to a personal website like yours without additional hardware

johnd:

--- Quote from: davidmc36 on March 17, 2024, 03:04:12 PM ---Hmmmmm. On review. It's not so easy if all you have is 6313 console. Can you purchase with older style still?

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Complete stations with legacy consoles are officially discontinued now and stock is no longer available from Davis. That said, there might well be some still in the supply chain though I suspect that available units are quickly disappearing. Of course you might still be able to find a legacy VP2 or Vue console as a separate item.

And Envoy units are NOT being discontinued so that (plus logger of course) or a 6100 WLL unit is another way of passing data direct to a local computer. TBH a 6313 console plus a 6100 WLL gives you the best of both worlds, but obviously at significant extra cost.

TBH my advice these days is to get a VP2 station with the 6313 console and set up uploads to weatherlink.com. See how you get on with that. Many people I suspect will be satisfied with that as a solution, especially if you are willing to buy the Pro sub. But if you find that you want features that are not provided by the standard 6313 package then be prepared for the extra cost of buying an additional receiver unit of some description that is compatible with local software.

Of course it's always possible that Davis might add a local  API to the 6313 console and so solve the problem that way. We can always live in hope.

Ahill:

--- Quote from: johnd on March 17, 2024, 11:44:23 AM ---Yes, but my point is that you need to be more specific in what you are asking about. Your listed requirements are too general at present and many different weather station solutions will meet your current list.

So, the simplest solution is perhaps just to use a VP2 6313 console uploading to a free account at weatherlink.com and not using any additional computer or software at all. But although this will meet all your listed requirements in general, there may be details where you want more.

for example, a free account at weatherlink.com can only forward data to CWOP, WU and WOW at present, and with a minimum interval of every 15 minutes. Is that OK for you or not? Do you want to be able to access your historical data online? In which case you will need a Pro subscription. Is that acceptable or not? Maybe you want to do more detailed data analysis than the console currently provides? etc...

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Thank you for breaking it down further. I had just replied but something happened and its not showing so i will try to summarize it again.
Yes to everything you said.
Sounds as if a vp2 with a pro subscription would work for now. But i would like 5 minute updates instead of 15, and Its fine that it only goes to cwop and wu.
I want to view data on the console, phone and pc. My ambient does just about everything but only stores data first 6 months i believe every 10-15 minutes then from 6-12 months every hour which is ok but then deletes everything after 12 months
I would like to have access to it for many years
I would like to access the data online but be nice if it were available locally as well. Locally is not that critical as long as i can always access it online. Again the length its available to view (years) is more important.
The console i was considering was a 6312. And when you say”weatherlink” this is where i get a bit confused as i seen its “software” that you purchase similar to meteobridge or cumulusmx. I didn’t realize its just online services just like ambient’s ambientweather.net or am i mistaken.
As long as the console displays everything 24/7, sends it to cwop and wu, i can view everything on the console, phone or pc. Stores all the data for years that i can easily access anytime I want and updates as frequently as 5 minutes ( not to be confused with the console update from the sensor) thats most everything right there.
As for data analysis the wind and pressures are the most important. Would like to have the most options for those.
The only other thing I mentioned that i might consider, and its a big might, is doing some sort of personal weather webpage. I don’t know if the information that updates to cwop, wu etc can go to a personal website and if additional hardware/software that has to be running 24/7 is required for that.
Thanks again for your help


Ahill:
I have to add that i need to separate the anemometer from the sensor suite mainly because of lightning damage, distance being the other so i would probably go the route of needing a transmitter for the anemometer. The reason for the 6312 console was for savings on costs

johnd:
OK, some further clarifications:

If you get a Pro sub then you can set a 5 minute storage interval on the archive records (and IIRC also on the uploads to other platforms like WU, but don't quote me on that).

I think you are missing the point that the 6313 console is effectively its own computer and software. So it will store data long-term (many years) and allow you to recall and chart historic data, for example. The only limitation is that after 6 months (IIRC) 5 or 15 minutes records are summarised into hourly records on the console to allow virtually unlimited long-term storage on the console. But if you have 5-minute intervals set then full resolution data will be preserved at weatherlink.com.

Yes, the term Weatherlink is used in many different senses by Davis and is the source of endless confusion. Davis use this brand term for almost anything to do with data handling, eg:


* Weatherlink.com - the cloud platform
* Weatherlink Live the 6100 no-display but with local API receiver
* 6313 Weatherlink console
* The old local software, eg Weatherlink for Windows
* The legacy loggers for the legacy 6312/6351 console, ie serial, USB or Ethernet loggers were always known as Weatherlink USB logger and so on
* etc
This is why in the context of Davis stations it's almost meaningless to talk about 'Weatherlink' without some further qualification.

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