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Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« on: December 04, 2018, 04:26:27 PM »
The GLOBE forum on here hasn't had a post since 2014, so I figured there wouldn't be any attention if I posted there.


I am at a university (Toledo), and am trying to build onto our GLOBE network.  I can add a study site to GLOBE  (your lat/long) and give you the  ORG_ID and SITE_ID credentials to automate it on your end, if you're willing to participate. Basically, you just need to add another share -- the only caveat is you need to have 15-minute intervals on weather-link, so no premium users.


I would truly appreciate any additions. Although I would prefer places "kind of close" to NW OHIO/SE MICHIGAN -- the location really doesn't matter.  We are actively trying to build the GLOBE database for future research purposes. (all is available to public)  It doesn't seem like many people use the globe feature and it's so simple to set up.


I don't expect a flood of people, but even a few would be amazing. A flood would be  \:D/ \:D/ \:D/


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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 05:31:07 PM »
How do you upload to The GLOBE? Is it APRS protocol compatible?
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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2018, 03:49:47 AM »
ICBW but I thought that GLOBE was specifically targeted at educational institutions only???
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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2018, 04:51:52 PM »
ICBW but I thought that GLOBE was specifically targeted at educational institutions only???


Sorry if I'm slow on this, we're approaching the end of the semester this week, so everyone is extremely busy.


Yes, but we're allowed to use "citizen scientists," so I'm working with GLOBE to make certain I can add sites under our organizational account for weather stations. I know we can "train" the public on most protocols, so I don't see a reason why a true weather enthusiast with accurate equipment shouldn't be allowed to submit their data as well.  I am working through the red-tape right now.


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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2018, 05:14:47 PM »
How do you upload to The GLOBE? Is it APRS protocol compatible?


I'm trying to figure out a solution for that right now. I have not looked at how Davis sends the data through davis weatherlink software, and weatherbug stuff works... I would think meteobridge should be easy to put the capability into (15-min intervals)  but i get an email every day from globe that looks like below. I don't have much time on my hands until the end of this month, but I would think it would be fairly easy to adapt through some kind of proxy device other than a davis. (though it's why I posted in the Davis forum)

I only included the first two measurements because I didn't want to edit out site/org ID 92 times.




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Thank you for entering your GLOBE data!  Please review the data you entered below.  Any records followed by an error message were NOT accepted by the system and need to be corrected and resubmitted before the data can be entered in the GLOBE database (for a faster response, only resubmit corrected lines).  Lines that are not followed by an error message were accepted and stored in our database (and do not need to be resubmitted). If you have further questions, please contact your Country Coordinator, or the GLOBE Help Desk at help@globe.gov
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Date Received: Wed Dec 05 17:49:31 GMT 2018

92 measurements processed successfully.

DAVAD ORG_ID:394XXX Site_id:1416XX 201812041300 -0.8 73 0.9 NNW 3.1 WNW 0.80 0.00 0.0 1021.2
DAVAD ORG_ID:394XXX Site_id:1416XX 201812041315 -0.6 71 0.9 NW 3.1 WNW 0.80 0.00 0.0 1020.9

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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2018, 09:09:57 PM »
Welll that format is definitely not APRS. The Meteobridge will need to be modified to support the GLOBE protocol and that would need to be done by Boris. The alternative is for the GLOBE to adopt and support the APRS protocol and then the Meteobridge would work.
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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2018, 03:17:36 PM »
I have been uploading to Globe for years.    Weatherlink will do the atmospheric, but I also have soil and they won't do that.

You have to apply to globe.gov.  You have to identify your site, protocols. etc.

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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2018, 07:00:51 PM »
Anyone running weatherlink I can have on GLOBE very quickly, just waiting for the go-ahead. Everyone's busy right now, last week of a semester.


So anyways, when I look at the submissions from my GLOBE station, it looks like weatherlink is just automating/using the GLOBE email protocol


Measured At: 2018-12-06 11:00:00
Solar Measured At: 2018-12-06 05:35:00
Daily Average Temperature: 1.3 °C
Comments: (Phase 4 Email Data Entry)



I know globe protocols require 15-minute measurement intervals for personal weather stations

It seems like it would be easy to add to meteobridge as a single 92 data-point email per day. 


Anyone can participate in GLOBE, I'm still waiting to hear if I can add a group of citizen-scientists to our organizational account. If so, it would streamline the process a lot for everyone involved and give us a TON of aggregate data to use to track climate patterns, and it's easier for me to just add a site with your lat/long/elevation and send you a couple numbers to throw into weatherlink than it is to go through the process of dealing with GLOBE. 


weatherbug stations were made to work with globe as well, but with everyone is so busy for the next week that I doubt i'll be able to get to making more progress on those.

 I also have to Campbell CR-3000's that I need to get back online and then I"m going to need a way to transmit their data to GLOBE automatically.  I'm going to try using an old sena LS100 RS232>ethernet device I found laying around and then
 bridge ethernet through cellular or wifi depending on how things work out.

Then onto the FLUX tower that hasn't been operating in years but probably just because lack of power... (academia) ... so  if I end up staying here into the future I'll probably end up figuring out a way to script the email uploads either way, but I really don't have the time right now to deal with anything outside of what I know already works seamlessly (Davis)
















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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2018, 10:48:12 PM »
Reread the thread.

Years ago,  when I had my PC,  I asked Brian Hamilton ( Weather display)  to write into his  program   so I could automatically update from the station both atmospheric and soil data.  When the PC died and I went to the dark side, (Apple)  I no longer could use his program for that.   

You could ask him if he still has his code for doing that and would be willing to send it to you, so you could use it.
 
To become a member of Globe.gov you have to apply. Go as a scientific group.   there are protocols but once you have your name and password for your station , you are good to go. Here is what I get daily from the Weatherlink site.

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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2018, 12:36:32 AM »
My boss has been a globe teacher/trainer since 2002.

I have two davis stations reporting daily and I do aerosol/surface temps manually when I'm able to. I'm currently helping a lot of academic institutions get their weather stations functioning properly and participating in GLOBE.

I'm going to paste the email protocol below.  That's how we'd need it scripted, and it should be 15-minute intervals that look like what your image says. Davis does it automatically, but you can enter manually if you wanted to do 90+ lines per day..haha

I think this could be scripted to be automatic for pretty much any logger, especially with something like meteobridge.  It would be very advantageous for studying climate over time to have much larger and complete data sets on globe.  If someone wants to broadcast out from a davis machine right now  I could just put in lat/long and give them my org ID and their site ID -- the rest is automatic -- provided they do it through weatherlink share. (like i assume you are).  There's a category to add "citizen scientists" to our organization id.







I'm also wondering if I can get a Campbell logger broadcasting with a meteobridge even though it's not listed... with a serial connection and a USB cellular modem. I know people that use Campbell stuff would probably scoff at the idea but I'm trying to be pragmatic at getting stuff online with reliability and the least amount of money spent. I was told that when the loggers were last in use, people had to go out once per week and download the weather data. I don't want to have to go out to the device unless it's not responding, and I can't really justify spending a ton of money on their proprietary equipment even though a previous faculty member had enough grant money to put all these expensive units in locations that are miles away from campus.  I did find an rs-232>ethernet device laying around, so I might try using that with a verizon hotspot i have.  My concern is that you don't have a public IP address with verizon, so i'm not sure how i'd get it to work without trying, and it's december in ohio :)


I'm kinda learning a lot about weather stations on the fly while having a full academic load.  Bear with me. :)



GLOBE: Email Data Entry Instructions (2/2017)

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Davis Air Data (DAVAD)

The automated Davis instrument should be configured to output values in the format
below. You will need to define your Site's metadata to indicate you have a Davis 
weather station before you can submit your data. With email data entry, you can do
that by submitting an (ATSSM) record first, before any AMBAD records. 

NOTE: As of Aug 20 2003, the David instrument needs to be configured to output
Sea Level Pressure, not station pressure.  If your measurements were taken after
Aug 20 2003, yet your Davis instrument was Not configured to output Sea Level
Pressure, then please mark Field 14 as missing ( "X" ).

  Field1: DAVAD
  Field2: School ID
  Field3: Site Type and Number ( Currently only defined Atmosphere Sites
    accepted ) ( ATM-dd )
  Field4: Date and Time of Measurement ( UT ) ( YYYYMMDDHHmm )
  Field5: Temperature (degrees Celsius)
  Field6: Relative Humidity ( % or "M" for suspect data )
  Field7: Average Wind Speed ( meters/second or "M" for suspect data )
  Field8: Average Wind Direction ( up to 3 level compass direction e.g. N or
    NNE or NE or "M" for suspect data. )
  Field9: Maximum Wind Speed ( meters/second or "M" for suspect data )
  Field10: [IGNORED-NO LONGER USED] Maximum Wind Direction ( compass direction
    or "M" for suspect data, X=Placeholder for Unused Field )
  Field11: [IGNORED-NO LONGER USED] Wind Run ( kilometers or "M" for suspect data,
    X=Placeholder for Unused Field )
  Field12: Rainfall ( millimeters or "M" for suspect data)
  Field13: Rainfall Rate ( millimeters per hour or "M" for suspect data )
  Field14: Sea Level Pressure ( mbar or "M" for suspect data )

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Creating an E-Mail Message:

There are many computer programs available for creating e-mail messages. Your
system must be able to send e-mail messages via the Internet. Since the exact
method for creating a message varies from system to system, you should consult
your local system administrator or computer expert for this type of information.

All e-mail programs will allow you to specify the address where the message is
to be sent (TO: ) and the subject of the message (SUBJECT: ). There will also be
an area where you type the text of the message itself. This information is
required for entering data into the GLOBE archive. (Your system may allow you to
specify other information, for example "cc:", "bcc:", or "attachments". These
are not required for entering data into the GLOBE data archive, and can be left
empty.) Please do not send any data as an "attachment". All data must be entered
directly into the body of the message.


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addresse:

DATA@GLOBE.GOV

Training e-mail data entry messages must be sent to:

PRACTICEDATA@GLOBE.GOV

This is the address that you will enter in the TO: field of your e-mail message.
It must be entered exactly as shown, without any spaces and with no errors. If
there are any errors in the address, your message will not be received and your
data will not be entered into the archive.

To indicate that this is a GLOBE data entry message, enter the following in the
Subject: area of your e-mail message:

Data

You must enter this exactly as shown, with no spaces or extra words.
The first line of the text in your e-mail message must be as follows:

//AA

This tells the GLOBE computer that the lines that follow will contain your
measurements.
You will then need to enter your measurement values in the body of Email
message. Each line will contain the measurements for one protocol, measured at
one site, on one day. Your message can contain as many lines as you need. For
example, a single e-mail data entry message could contain many air temperature
and precipitation measurements from many different schools. The data entry
formats for each protocol is given in the next section.
After you have entered all of your measurements, the last line of your e-mail
message must be as follows:

//ZZ

This tells the computer that there are no more measurements in your message.
Below is an example of how your e-mail message should look based solely on what
we've just discussed:

TO: DATA@GLOBE.GOV

SUBJECT: DATA


//AA
<Measurement 1>
<Measurement 2>
<Measurement 3>
 .
 .
 .
//ZZ


General Format for Measurements:

The measurements for each protocol are entered in the text of the message, each
on a separate line. Each line contains information about which protocol is being
reported, when and where the measurements were made, and what measurement values
were recorded. Each piece of information is separated by a space. The GLOBE
computer interprets the information in the line based on its position in the
line. We call each piece of information a field. The fields are separated by
spaces and the first field is the one on the left. The first four fields are
always required.

Field 1

The first field on a line is always a special character code for the protocol
being reported.


Field 2

The second field on a line is always the School ID of the school whose data is
being reported in that line. The latest version of Email Data Entry supports
two formats for the School ID field:

- The original-format of the school ID is an 8 character code that uniquely
defines each school to the GLOBE data system. This ID is maintained for
backward-compatibility, but is also generated for new organizations created
through the new GLOBE website. This ID can be looked up through the GLOBE
website, or provided by your Partner or Country Coordinator.

for example:  ZZZZ1234

- The new GLOBE website assigns a numeric number to every organization in
GLOBE. If you prefer, you may use this ID instead of the old format.
However, you must prefix the numeric ID with 'ORG_ID:'. This organization
ID can be provided by your Partner or Country Coordinator.

for example:  ORG_ID:1234567

Note that the ZZZZ1234 school ID is no longer supported in the latest version
of Email Data Entry, historically used for training and for demonstration
purposes.


Field 3

The third field on a line is always the site identifier or number. See later in
this document for instructions on how to define a site. As with the School ID,
the latest version of Email Data Entry supports two formats for the site
identifier/number field:

- Depending on the protocol report being submitted, the original-format of the
site identifier field is either a 6 character code (e.g. ATM-01), or a simple
number 1 through 999. If you have an older site that was not created with the
new GLOBE website, you may continue to use this format when specifying the
site identifier/number. Sites created with the new GLOBE website no longer
support the old site identifier/number format.

- The new GLOBE website assigns a numeric number (siteid) to every site created
for an organization. The numeric siteid of an organization's site can be
looked-up using the Data Entry application via the GLOBE website, or be
provided by your Partner or Country Coordinator. If using this format, you
may prefix the numeric siteid with 'SITE_ID:'.

e.g. SITE_ID:12345  or
     12345

The siteid format will work for sites created with the old GLOBE website, and
*must* be used for sites created with the new GLOBE website.


Field 4

The fourth field on a line is always the date and time the measurements were
taken in Universal Time (UT). Unless specified otherwise, the format for the
date and time must be exactly as shown below:
YYYYMMDDHHmm

The first 4 characters are the year, the next 2 characters are the month, the
next two characters are the day, the next two characters are the hour, and the
last two characters are the minutes. You must use two characters for the month,
day, hour and minutes. If the month, day, hour, or minute values are under 10,
use a zero to make it two characters long. For example, if the measurement was
taken on March 8, 2010 at 1:05 UT, it would be written as:
201003080105

Remember that you must report the date and time that the measurement was taken,
not the date and time that it is being reported. You must also be sure that you
report the time in UT, also called Greenwich Mean Time (GMT). Remember that the
difference between UT and your local time will change if you switch between
standard and daylight savings time. Also note that the month is given before the
day.  Exceptions to this rule occur for all Study Site (SL) definitions,
Study Site Meta Data reports and the Lilac and Bud Burst protocols,
where a date is asked for instead of the date and time. For these observations,
just the year, month, and day are reported, and the hour and minutes are
not reported. For these observations the format is written as:

YYYYMMDD


Remaining Fields:

The remaining fields on a line will contain the actual measured values for that
protocol and are described below. Your measurement entries may exceed one line
if you wish. Each field must always be filled with either a value. Sometimes
there will be a field defined for which you have no data because you did not do
that part of the protocol, or because it doesn't apply. In these cases, you must
place an "X" in that field so that the GLOBE computer will know that there is no
data to be entered for that field. However, many fields require a value. In
these cases, an "X" for that field will generate an error.


Comments:

For all protocols, the first four fields must be reported and cannot be reported
as missing. All notes after the field definitions that mention required fields
assume that the first four fields are always being reported.

The protocols listed below allow you to describe conditions that affected your
measurement. If you wish to include these comments, they must be written after
all the other fields have been filled in. For example, if you wish to make a
comment about an air temperature (ATM) observation, the comment would need to
start after the last field, which in this case is Field 7. If you do not have
any comments for this group of measurements, do not enter a missing value for it
( i.e. 'X' ). Do not write any of the special character codes within your
comments.




Reread the thread.

Years ago,  when I had my PC,  I asked Brian Hamilton ( Weather display)  to write into his  program   so I could automatically update from the station both atmospheric and soil data.  When the PC died and I went to the dark side, (Apple)  I no longer could use his program for that.   

You could ask him if he still has his code for doing that and would be willing to send it to you, so you could use it.
 
To become a member of Globe.gov you have to apply. Go as a scientific group.   there are protocols but once you have your name and password for your station , you are good to go. Here is what I get daily from the Weatherlink site.
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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2018, 12:40:42 AM »
A lot of schools overpaid for weatherbug stuff and i think they're having trouble getting it to work with globe now that there's been some shifting in the company. I need to take some time to look at it, and if they use the same basic format as davis devices to email in dailies to globe.

I'm going to try returning a  contact with someone at a NJ institution tomorrow who's working with that equipment and see if I can get more info and hopefully a solution real quick.
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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2018, 12:45:15 AM »
I have been uploading to Globe for years.    Weatherlink will do the atmospheric, but I also have soil and they won't do that.

You have to apply to globe.gov.  You have to identify your site, protocols. etc.

Oh, and yeah, it annoys me to no end that they want soil moisture samples but won't take soil moisture readings from weather stations. I think it's a huge fallacy in the system. We have to take a sample, weigh it, bake it in an oven for a day or two, then weigh it again to be able to submit soil moisture. I mean, it's a fun way to engage kids with using basic equipment, but baking dirt just seems like a big waste of electricity and time. (not to mention how much more soil moisture data we'd have on globe if they took station readings)
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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2018, 09:05:44 AM »
I have been uploading to Globe for years.    Weatherlink will do the atmospheric, but I also have soil and they won't do that.

You have to apply to globe.gov.  You have to identify your site, protocols. etc.

Oh, and yeah, it annoys me to no end that they want soil moisture samples but won't take soil moisture readings from weather stations. I think it's a huge fallacy in the system. We have to take a sample, weigh it, bake it in an oven for a day or two, then weigh it again to be able to submit soil moisture. I mean, it's a fun way to engage kids with using basic equipment, but baking dirt just seems like a big waste of electricity and time. (not to mention how much more soil moisture data we'd have on globe if they took station readings)

I had Brian do it for me, as I wanted it to be automatic.  There are several methods and the Davis is one of them.  The baking is what we old chemistry guys did in analytical chemistry.   Back when we did all the analysis manually.  Weigh the sample to 3 decimal places. put it in the drying oven for 24 hours, let it cool in a dessicator then reweigh it . the difference is the mass of the water.   Then calculate the moisture level.  Now you read the probe and it is done.

I have send samples via the Davis to them and they were always accepted.    If you want the soil sample/temp sent  then someone has to write the routine for the software to send the daily sample to globe.gov.  that is if you want it automated.

Right now WL 2.0 sends only the atmospheric and I would hope, that enough people would contact Davis Support email or on their FB or whatever  page and ask for them to do that.  The IP logger sends the data , why not send the soil values as well as an option.

With the conditions in the world changing,  I thinkI would be interested in sharing my data.

Here is the protocol for Davis Instruments.   https://www.globe.gov/documents/352961/353769/Davis+Soil+Moisture+and+Temperature+Station+protocol/d554e0a1-9f32-41bd-a2fe-eda45c555aea
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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2018, 05:09:56 PM »
extra annoying because if i look at the globe email protocol, it accepts soil moisture, so yeah, it's davis not sending it. (or globe telling davis to not send it because they say "only atmosphere for davis")

I have been uploading to Globe for years.    Weatherlink will do the atmospheric, but I also have soil and they won't do that.

You have to apply to globe.gov.  You have to identify your site, protocols. etc.

Oh, and yeah, it annoys me to no end that they want soil moisture samples but won't take soil moisture readings from weather stations. I think it's a huge fallacy in the system. We have to take a sample, weigh it, bake it in an oven for a day or two, then weigh it again to be able to submit soil moisture. I mean, it's a fun way to engage kids with using basic equipment, but baking dirt just seems like a big waste of electricity and time. (not to mention how much more soil moisture data we'd have on globe if they took station readings)

I had Brian do it for me, as I wanted it to be automatic.  There are several methods and the Davis is one of them.  The baking is what we old chemistry guys did in analytical chemistry.   Back when we did all the analysis manually.  Weigh the sample to 3 decimal places. put it in the drying oven for 24 hours, let it cool in a dessicator then reweigh it . the difference is the mass of the water.   Then calculate the moisture level.  Now you read the probe and it is done.

I have send samples via the Davis to them and they were always accepted.    If you want the soil sample/temp sent  then someone has to write the routine for the software to send the daily sample to globe.gov.  that is if you want it automated.

Right now WL 2.0 sends only the atmospheric and I would hope, that enough people would contact Davis Support email or on their FB or whatever  page and ask for them to do that.  The IP logger sends the data , why not send the soil values as well as an option.

With the conditions in the world changing,  I thinkI would be interested in sharing my data.

Here is the protocol for Davis Instruments.   https://www.globe.gov/documents/352961/353769/Davis+Soil+Moisture+and+Temperature+Station+protocol/d554e0a1-9f32-41bd-a2fe-eda45c555aea
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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2018, 06:15:22 PM »
I am going to bow out of this discussion.  I gave the information I had, a few suggestions. there is nothing more I can offer.

I do suggest to get weatherlink 2.0  their website to include soil moisture values and temps.  The climate is changing and the information has to be valuable.

I wish all of you success in your endeavors.

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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2018, 10:52:45 AM »
I am going to bow out of this discussion.  I gave the information I had, a few suggestions. there is nothing more I can offer.

I do suggest to get weatherlink 2.0  their website to include soil moisture values and temps.  The climate is changing and the information has to be valuable.

I wish all of you success in your endeavors.


I do thank you for your information and your contributions. 

The one thing I think got lost in the static here is I came specifically looking for people who were running weatherlink 2.0, which is why this post is in the Weatherlink forum.  I have the organization ID,  I am looking for dependable data from davis users, and I can create a site ID on GLOBE for them, under our organization, as "citizen-scientists."   

You're correct. It would be greatly helpful for climate study if we had a lot more engagement. The conversation went off the rails turning instantly into "can x y or z work?"
Those are future questions.

This post is supposed to be targeting people who are using weatherlink 2.0.  I am not sure how I did not communicate that clearly in the original post.



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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2019, 11:27:21 PM »
@ hazardc I am weatherlink 2.0 with Davis equipment and would like to send you data.

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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2019, 06:20:32 AM »
If you are wanting to upload to Globe here is the requirement:

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The system allows only Trained GLOBE Teacher to Enter data using those platforms. Once you get trained, you should be able to log into the website and create data sites, enter data, create student accounts.
The reason behind that is to protect the integrity of the data, even if the data is coming from a weather station, it has be sent from a trained account.
To get Trained, you can do so through attending a GLOBE Training Workshop in person or by completing the requirements for the eTraining.
To find a GLOBE Workshop near you, please check the following link:
https://www.globe.gov/get-trained/workshops

To find out more about the eTraining and it's requirements, please check the following link:
https://www.globe.gov/get-trained/protocol-etraining

Once you get trained, you will be able to user the different data entry platforms including, Desktop data entry forms, Data Entry mobile app and email data entry.
You can create a site for your weather station and send data from that weather station, however at this time, only Weather stations with data loggers can can send data directly to GLOBE, so if you do not have a data logger, you may not be able to do so. You can still use the email data entry to send big amount of data to the GLOBE Database especially if you you can create an app that fills the email as the GLOBE database requires.
For more information about data entry and email format, please check the following link:
https://www.globe.gov/globe-data/data-entry
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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2019, 06:19:40 PM »
Globe function has been added back to the weather display software (untested )

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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2019, 11:32:54 PM »
Considering how little traffic the GLOBE section gets, figured I'd post this here in hopes that someone can answer my question.

So, I got data upload via email working from my Meteobridge Nano SD. I messed up the wind direction by sending the degrees and not the 3 letter cardinal direction, so it was rejected for that reason alone. When entering in the converter for direction however, it got me thinking about the specifics of the rest of the data. I have been unable to find out in the documents if they want the max or average for several of the measurements.

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Field1: DAVAD
Field2: School ID
Field3: Site Type and Number ( Currently only defined Atmosphere Sites accepted ) ( ATM-dd )  -OR-  SITE_ID:12345 format (refer to "General Format for Measurements")
Field4: Date and Time of Measurement ( UT ) ( YYYYMMDDHHmm )
Field5: Temperature (degrees Celsius)
Field6: Relative Humidity ( % or "M" for suspect data )
Field7: Average Wind Speed ( meters/second or "M" for suspect data )
Field8: Average Wind Direction ( up to 3 level compass direction e.g. N or NNE or NE or "M" for suspect data. )
Field9: Maximum Wind Speed ( meters/second or "M" for suspect data )
Field10: [IGNORED-NO LONGER USED] Maximum Wind Direction ( compass direction or "M" for suspect data, X=Placeholder for Unused Field )
Field11: [IGNORED-NO LONGER USED] Wind Run ( kilometers or "M" for suspect data, X=Placeholder for Unused Field )
Field12: Rainfall ( millimeters or "M" for suspect data)
Field13: Rainfall Rate ( millimeters per hour or "M" for suspect data )
Field14: Sea Level Pressure ( mbar or "M" for suspect data )

Field5, Temp. Should this be the average of 15 minutes, or max of 15 minutes?
Field6, Humidity. Average of 15 minutes, or max of 15 minutes?
Field13, Rain Rate. Should it be the max or average instanteous mm per hour, or the literal amount of rain that has fallen in the past hour (WU's method)
Field14, Pressure. Should it be the max, average, or min?

The others quite literally say average or max for them, so no question about those.

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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2019, 12:53:41 AM »
Globe function has been added back to the weather display software (untested )

Would this globe function potentially work with all if the supported stations and not just Davis? 
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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2019, 11:08:04 AM »
I recently got the Weatherlink Live unit.  I still have the Weatherlink IP as well.    I am keeping it just to test out the new unit.

I am sending data to Globe.gov as I have done for the past 20 years.  I would be getting daily reports from Globe.gov that the data was received, a listing of the days data ,etc.   

The problem is that if I send it using the IP logger to the Weatherlink.com site  it goes through and I get daily reports.  However, if I send data to the same location using the Weatherlink nothing...

Anyone else using the Weatherlink Live unit and the Weatherlink.com site to send data actually getting data through?

I also send data to CWOP and Underground and it sends and receives.

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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2019, 02:13:37 PM »
That's actually interesting because Davis doesn't list globe as supported by wl live


This is why I have started using wifilogger pretty much exclusively for GLOBE.  No more reliance on Davis if they don't remedy it, but I will b calling soon either way since I'm sending in 2 vp2 units for refurbishing. 
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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2019, 02:39:33 PM »
That's actually interesting because Davis doesn't list globe as supported by wl live


This is why I have started using wifilogger pretty much exclusively for GLOBE.  No more reliance on Davis if they don't remedy it, but I will b calling soon either way since I'm sending in 2 vp2 units for refurbishing.

Actually it does show up on the Live site for globe.  Works with IP and not with the new toy.

Wifilogger?   do tell.  does it also send soil moisture data as I have a station .

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Re: Weatherlink users, willing to upload to GLOBE?
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2019, 03:09:48 PM »
That's actually interesting because Davis doesn't list globe as supported by wl live


This is why I have started using wifilogger pretty much exclusively for GLOBE.  No more reliance on Davis if they don't remedy it, but I will b calling soon either way since I'm sending in 2 vp2 units for refurbishing.

Actually it does show up on the Live site for globe.  Works with IP and not with the new toy.

Wifilogger?   do tell.  does it also send soil moisture data as I have a station .

Uploading to WeatherLink from the computer software, the site wouldn't upload to the GLOBE. No error or anything, just nothing ever showed up on GLOBE. I ended up using my Meteobridge Nano SD to schedule an email upload every 15 minutes and it's been running successfully for about 12 hours now.