Topic: Possible mods to reduce sun-related temperature increase for WS 5000 array

[jcjrogers]

Thanks guys! One more question: the Ambient website doesn't show its own WH31E as compatible with the SRS100LX, which appears to have the same dimensions as the WH32. I realize Ambient puts as little effort as possible into support and even into updating their website, but will the WH32 fit without any modifications?

the WH31E and a WH32 have the same housing size.
Ambient states for the SRS100LX
"Some sensors require the removal of mounting bracket or aesthetic covers to fit within the inner cavity of the SRS100 (WxLxH): 2.5" x 4.3" x 7.4". "
If the WH32/WH31 housing meets these requirements, it should fit. The probe of a WH32-EP will definitely fit.

Got it. The WH31E shows dimensions of 4.75 x 1.5 x 0.6 in, which it appears would fit. My other question was about the WH32EP. If I do this, I might want to get the better sensor. Obviously the probe itself is smaller, but I would have to put probe and casing in there, wouldn't I?

[Rocketman]

try this
https://shop.ecowitt.com/collections/accessory/products/shelter

[Wooks61]

try this
https://shop.ecowitt.com/collections/accessory/products/shelter

As the wiki states:
"Meanwhile Ecowitt offers the WH57 together with their RS0001 radiation shield which is pretty useless for a T/RH sensor exposed to direct sunlight."

[Gyvate]

maybe @Rocketman meant to put the housing of the WH32-EP into that shelter and the probe inside the SRS100LX, which could make sense.
On the other hand, the shield (and the probe) shouldn't be higher up than 2 m above ground.
What I have done is put the housing in a wetroom casing (IP65) with a transparent window used for fuses - like this I can also see the temperature/humidity on the display of the WH32-EP housing. 
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[Rocketman]

maybe @Rocketman meant to put the housing of the WH32-EP into that shelter and the probe inside the SRS100LX, which could make sense.

exactly what I meant , thanks Gyvate

[Wooks61]

maybe @Rocketman meant to put the housing of the WH32-EP into that shelter and the probe inside the SRS100LX, which could make sense.

exactly what I meant , thanks Gyvate

Apologies

[Rocketman]

maybe @Rocketman meant to put the housing of the WH32-EP into that shelter and the probe inside the SRS100LX, which could make sense.

exactly what I meant , thanks Gyvate

Apologies

 

[Platokidd]

Thanks guys! One more question: the Ambient website doesn't show its own WH31E as compatible with the SRS100LX, which appears to have the same dimensions as the WH32. I realize Ambient puts as little effort as possible into support and even into updating their website, but will the WH32 fit without any modifications?

the WH31E and a WH32 have the same housing size.
Ambient states for the SRS100LX
"Some sensors require the removal of mounting bracket or aesthetic covers to fit within the inner cavity of the SRS100 (WxLxH): 2.5" x 4.3" x 7.4". "
If the WH32/WH31 housing meets these requirements, it should fit. The probe of a WH32-EP will definitely fit.

Got it. The WH31E shows dimensions of 4.75 x 1.5 x 0.6 in, which it appears would fit. My other question was about the WH32EP. If I do this, I might want to get the better sensor. Obviously the probe itself is smaller, but I would have to put probe and casing in there, wouldn't I?

I used this set up.  - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PK8K8S2/?coliid=I39EAEYO687A7F&colid=3GPJYW7H3VKMO&ref_=list_c_wl_gv_ov_lig_pi_dp&th=1

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[jcjrogers]

Thanks again for all the help! So it looks like if you separate the case from the probe, you would have to drill a hole in the SRS100LX, would you not? it also looks to me like case and probe might both fit, though I assume you don't want the probe to be touching the inside walls, but maybe that doesn't matter.

[Gyvate]

read the SRS100LX manual on how to fix the probe 
and, depending how you install it (top-down, bottom-up) have the cable run out between the elements (top or bottom) - you do not need to physically separate (disconnect, even temporarily) the housing from the cable or probe.
Maybe I misinterpreted the word "separate".
I would keep the housing outside and only the probe inside - also for better airflow.

[jcjrogers]

read the SRS100LX manual on how to fix the probe 
and, depending how you install it (top-down, bottom-up) have the cable run out between the elements (top or bottom) - you do not need to physically separate (disconnect, even temporarily) the housing from the cable or probe.
Maybe I misinterpreted the word "separate".
I would keep the housing outside and only the probe inside - also for better airflow.

I did read the manual, and it didn't mention a separate probe, specifically. It showed using cable-ties to attach a sensor case to a piece of plastic, which was then inserted into the cavity of the shield (like most of these instructions, they weren't very good). From what I can tell, you might be able to attach the case to the mounting piece, tie up the excess sensor cable, and let the probe dangle; or maybe if there is enough room, you could tie the sensor cable to the case and the case to the mounting piece, and have it all together. The cavity would have to be wide enough to allow the mounting piece, the case, and the probe/cable to all be tied together.

The instructions did mention running sensor cables, but what it showed were two thin wires which wouldn't need much gap. Going by the pictures, the probe cable with the WH32EP looks to be pretty substantial and would need a pretty big gap. The screws might be long enough to create the gap, but the gap would be big enough to allow water, dirt, wasps, etc. to get inside the shield.

[Platokidd]

read the SRS100LX manual on how to fix the probe 
and, depending how you install it (top-down, bottom-up) have the cable run out between the elements (top or bottom) - you do not need to physically separate (disconnect, even temporarily) the housing from the cable or probe.
Maybe I misinterpreted the word "separate".
I would keep the housing outside and only the probe inside - also for better airflow.

I did read the manual, and it didn't mention a separate probe, specifically. It showed using cable-ties to attach a sensor case to a piece of plastic, which was then inserted into the cavity of the shield (like most of these instructions, they weren't very good). From what I can tell, you might be able to attach the case to the mounting piece, tie up the excess sensor cable, and let the probe dangle; or maybe if there is enough room, you could tie the sensor cable to the case and the case to the mounting piece, and have it all together. The cavity would have to be wide enough to allow the mounting piece, the case, and the probe/cable to all be tied together.

The instructions did mention running sensor cables, but what it showed were two thin wires which wouldn't need much gap. Going by the pictures, the probe cable with the WH32EP looks to be pretty substantial and would need a pretty big gap. The screws might be long enough to create the gap, but the gap would be big enough to allow water, dirt, wasps, etc. to get inside the shield.

I ran the WH32EP through the side of the shield sections. This means I had to un-assemble the shield to run the WH32ep through. Then I attached it to mounting piece with zip ties, tightening just enough to hold it in place. Made loop in the cable so the probe doesn't tough anything. Then re-assembled the shield and mounted it on a 4x4 post. 

It's not that difficult to do.  Sometimes, one has to think outside of the box per-say to make stuff work.

[Rgv20]

Thanks guys! One more question: the Ambient website doesn't show its own WH31E as compatible with the SRS100LX, which appears to have the same dimensions as the WH32. I realize Ambient puts as little effort as possible into support and even into updating their website, but will the WH32 fit without any modifications?

the WH31E and a WH32 have the same housing size.
Ambient states for the SRS100LX
"Some sensors require the removal of mounting bracket or aesthetic covers to fit within the inner cavity of the SRS100 (WxLxH): 2.5" x 4.3" x 7.4". "
If the WH32/WH31 housing meets these requirements, it should fit. The probe of a WH32-EP will definitely fit.

Got it. The WH31E shows dimensions of 4.75 x 1.5 x 0.6 in, which it appears would fit. My other question was about the WH32EP. If I do this, I might want to get the better sensor. Obviously the probe itself is smaller, but I would have to put probe and casing in there, wouldn't I?

I used this set up.  - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PK8K8S2/?coliid=I39EAEYO687A7F&colid=3GPJYW7H3VKMO&ref_=list_c_wl_gv_ov_lig_pi_dp&th=1

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Almost my exact same setup with my WS-5000. The Davis 7714 Shield with WN32EP(WH32_EP) Temperature and Humidity Sensor with SHT35 Probe works beautifully. I have had this setup for almost a year and a half on the full south texas sun with really good results.

I have been wanting to buy an extra WH32 EP with no luck as the 915mhz has been sold out since January. Anyone has any inside info with ecowitt? The last message I got from ecowitt was that it would be back in stock in April last month :/ My original sensor is still going strong but just wanted to have a back up one.

[MrM1]

I have been wanting to buy an extra WH32 EP with no luck as the 915mhz has been sold out since January. Anyone has any inside info with ecowitt? The last message I got from ecowitt was that it would be back in stock in April last month :/ My original sensor is still going strong but just wanted to have a back up one.

I got mine on Amazon (US) in the Ecowitt Amazon Store back in early April.  It is listed at the WN32BS,  But it is the same as the WH32-EP. 

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B23JG8HY?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_3