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Offline Garth Bock

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Re: Here comes THIS garbage again...
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2021, 09:32:07 AM »
Have any of you lost your best friends to this ? I HAVE ! One was before the vaccine and one was way after. Both didn't believe in it. Both felt wearing a mask was against their rights. Both were in very good health. Both left families without a father. Both left families with huge medical bills. Both went to the hospital and none of us got to say goodbye. No more bike rides. No more riding around in the truck and getting in a little bit of trouble. No more being teased by the wife for being a bad influence (it wasn't always my idea). While everyone whines about masks and jabs and government crap, they probably don't know the pain of loosing a family member or a best buddy... and I hope they don't have to. I am vaxed, boosted and masked because I want to improve my chances of having one more day. I would give anything to get my usual phone call wanting to know if I wanted to run into town for some stuff then go have a couple of beers after... Gotta go... Having trouble seeing the keyboard...

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« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2021, 10:41:46 AM »
I am moved by your loss.  :-(

The saddest part, so much could be prevented. My wife's school age friend's dad will likely not make it post heart valve replacement as he was so weak from waiting so long with hospitals filled with Covid patients.

The "Anti" crowd often says 'Look, all you masks etc. have not worked'  The problem is, there is such poor adherence, we have no way of knowing how well those things may have may have worked.

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« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2021, 10:42:58 AM »
... Here in TX we're doing just fine, healthy happy and maskless.....

It is nice to hear you are doing well with so many in Texas who are not.  ;)

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« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2021, 09:44:06 AM »
My hearing has degraded to the point of needing attention and so I got a hearing test and no surprise, I've lost higher frequencies. The choice of hearing aids then became the problem. I was looking at several different ones with varying options and liked the idea of one with blue tooth and setting adjustable with an iPhone. You can program it for different scenarios, busy restaurant, quiet home etc and they have AI to continually adjust, but the one thing that really jumped out was a specific setting for communicating with people wearing masks and yes, there are still a few places, my eyeglass place, my Doc etc. that are stuck on political obedience. That feature was a huge selling point. So, after the first of the year I'll invest.

You know from a high level it is interesting that TX/FL seem to have far less problems than some other places. Maybe those other places are doing something wrong? - just saying.

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Re: Here comes THIS garbage again...
« Reply #30 on: December 25, 2021, 08:53:05 PM »
Have any of you lost your best friends to this ? I HAVE ! One was before the vaccine and one was way after. Both didn't believe in it. Both felt wearing a mask was against their rights. Both were in very good health. Both left families without a father. Both left families with huge medical bills. Both went to the hospital and none of us got to say goodbye.

My best friend was one of the first Delta-wave victims.  He refused to carry health insurance, believed that the medical profession was a scam, and insisted that COVID was just a cold that could be cured/prevented with lots of vitamins.  All of his medications came from Tractor Supply and pet stores.  Sound familiar?  While waiting for medical transport to arrive when he finally agreed to be treated, he sprawled out on his driveway to soak in the sun as his last try at a self-cure.  He was too far gone by the time he reached the local hospital, and died in flight while being airlifted to the regional trauma center a few days later.  He called every single person that he knew from the hospital before they intubated him, saying his goodbyes.  He *didn't* call me though, probably because he didn't want to hear me tell him that I told him so.  :-(

I also lost two very dear racing buddies to COVID.  Knew both of their families on a first-name basis, and watched their kids grow up.

Needless to say, I am jabbed and boosted as my best effort to prevent my family from enduring that loss grief/suffering.....
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« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2022, 06:43:40 PM »
We need an auctioneer. Do I hear  4 4 4 4  5 5 5 5......  SOLD at infinity!

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/moderna-ceo-says-fourth-covid-19-shot-neccessary

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« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2022, 07:45:37 PM »
We need an auctioneer. Do I hear  4 4 4 4  5 5 5 5......  SOLD at infinity!

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/moderna-ceo-says-fourth-covid-19-shot-neccessary

Yep, sales is indeed the goal.

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« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2022, 07:56:44 PM »
So FoxBusiness is the site for medical advice ? LOL.

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« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2022, 08:05:02 PM »
LOL! You believe your government! Enjoy being a lifelong pin cushion and lab rat!

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« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2022, 08:46:26 PM »
So FoxBusiness is the site for medical advice ? LOL.
That's not the point.
Point is, how badly Americans are being taken for a ride, willingly, through propaganda, lies, and high level bullying.

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« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2022, 10:46:49 PM »
LOL! You believe your government! Enjoy being a lifelong pin cushion and lab rat!
No I don't. What i have done is read real virology and epidemiology research and reports. I don't listen to those who went to social media medical school. Also I have a nephew who is a virologist working in a Covid ward and a neice who is a icu/trama specialist who spends time in the Covid ward of her hospital. Their dad is a retired oncologist who has participated in HIV research. We have talked on the phone many times. In my nephew's hospital everyone on an ECMO (heart lung machine) and ventilator is dying or about to die is unvaccinated. He has had a couple that had medical conditions (overweight/diabetic/etc) that if they weren't vaccinated would have died. I getting real medical info directly from experts with real experience. I understand about how the virus is mutating to evade the body's defenses. The new treatments are targeting the replication enzyme. An improvement to the vaccine is coming that targets more of the receptor spike proteins.  So believe what you want. I don't care anymore. I choose life for me. If you want to play Russian roulette with your life...go for it. First..read...learn the truth.

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« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2022, 11:03:47 PM »
LOL! You believe your government! Enjoy being a lifelong pin cushion and lab rat!
So believe what you want.
And you can bank on that. Just like big pharma.


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« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2022, 07:19:45 AM »
So FoxBusiness is the site for medical advice ? LOL.

As the old saying goes, better to keep your mouth closed and be considered a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.....  :roll:


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« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2022, 04:10:37 PM »
 Dr. Malone is a respected researcher and just because he has appeared on Fox news does not diminish this. He has a valid point of view and as such deserves to be heard. If social media censors his views then he has the right to find a platform to express those views. At this point in time who is to say what view is correct. So many things have changed from a year ago. I believe that there is an ongoing process to keep anyone with a viewpoint that is not in agreement with the government will have diminished access to forums to express their views in order to not corrupt the “official” narrative. The CDC has been wrong before with disastrous results, remember Thalidomide? Let me have the ability to access all information, consult with my healthcare providers and not have them restricted to what care and medicines that they can provide. Government rationing healthcare by controlling distribution or restricting off label use of certain medications under the guise of lack of supply is unconscionable. In my case I have elected to be “UP TO DATE” (new government definition) because of my personal situation.

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« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2022, 04:18:49 PM »
Also this on Dr. Robert Malone https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/jan/06/who-robert-malone-joe-rogans-guest-was-vaccine-sci/

He seems to be frequenting the 'alternative facts' media a lot.
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« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2022, 04:31:04 PM »
Government rationing healthcare by controlling distribution or restricting off label use of certain medications under the guise of lack of supply is unconscionable.
=D> AFAIC, it's criminal.

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« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2022, 04:44:58 PM »
So FoxBusiness is the site for medical advice ? LOL.

As the old saying goes, better to keep your mouth closed and be considered a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.....  :roll:



So you're calling me a fool ?

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Re: Here comes THIS garbage again...
« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2022, 09:09:46 PM »
So FoxBusiness is the site for medical advice ? LOL.

As the old saying goes, better to keep your mouth closed and be considered a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.....  :roll:



So you're calling me a fool ?

I never got a serious answer to my question so i gave up.

At least the Omicron variant that i suppose hailed from Cybertron, is meant to be a milder variant, spreading like wildflowers here in the UK mind.
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« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2022, 10:20:38 AM »
So you're calling me a fool ?

Not at all!  I was agreeing with you, since you realize the folly of citing/trusting medical advice from Fox Business.

At this point, I just grab the popcorn and wait for natural selection to decide this decade's largest debate:




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« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2022, 12:01:59 PM »
I once asked a board admin why they would allow a thread like this.  The reply was that they enjoyed laughing at the fools who used biased TV 'news' channels as factual sources.

Appearing on, or even admitting to watching such 'news' channels definitely diminishes you.


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« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2022, 12:16:11 PM »
I once asked a board admin why they would allow a thread like this.  The reply was that they enjoyed laughing at the fools who used biased TV 'news' channels as factual sources.

Appearing on, or even admitting to watching such 'news' channels definitely diminishes you.

..............a two way street works both ways.  \:D/ =D>

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« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2022, 12:38:50 PM »
 Conservative or liberal there aren’t any more “unbiased” news sources. They all are talking heads waiting to throw out the “gotcha” zinger. It’s all about ratings. The more sensational, ludicrous, or distorted the better. There are valid points of view on both sides. It doesn’t mean you must totally agree with those points. Sources quoting “facts” are their “facts”. Read all sides, form your own opinion. There is no truth except your own truth. Censoring ideas and views does nothing but limit your ability to make informed decisions. Some "conspiracy" theories that were thought ridiculous a year ago have gained credibility. Be open to changes in viewpoints through your own research. Everyone is entitled to their point of view and shaming them for it is small minded.
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« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2022, 01:07:03 PM »
Back in the 80's, probably before, I read an article by one of the prominent talking heads of the time and he was decrying the loss of journalism primarily due to the news rooms of the TV networks etc being converted from purely news reporting, or journalism to profit centers. When that trend happened it created cable news outlets etc that were profit oriented, they had to "sell" to survive. As I said that was long ago and today we can see the result of that trend, actual journalism and "news" have mostly disappeared, now it's all opinion. There are still a few sources I trust, but only a select few. And then look at yesterdays SCOTUS hearing, several of the justices were totally misinformed and didn't seem to actually have ever read the Constitution. While the loss of journalism is a problem, having members of the highest court dictating to us based on hearsay opinion very directly impacts our daily lives.