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WN1900 availability
« on: October 09, 2021, 07:24:17 AM »
Hi!

Finally the WN1900 seems to be available (shortly).
At least it is now listed on the Ecowitt website.
However, there is currently no stock for any of the frequencies offered.

It is also listed as an additional standalone console.
As soon as the unit is on stock for 868MHz, I will order, make a few tests and report here.

Now the only thing missing from the announcements is the HP10 ...

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2021, 08:31:44 AM »
Hi!

I have been keeping an eye on the availability of the new WN19xxC consoles for months.
To date, these devices have not been available with any frequency.
They are still not available. But at least the prices in the webshop have been updated significantly:
The monochrome display WN1900C costs now $59.99 (was: $39.99) and the color version WN1910C $64.99 (was: $49.99).
Perhaps the components are scarce and therefore more expensive to procure. Or maybe Ecowitt just wants to explore the buyer's pain threshold.

Does anyone already use a WN1900 or WN1910?
It would be nice if a user could let send the station to EAR. Then I can check the general compatibility with FOSHKplugin..
Thanks!

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2021, 04:36:45 PM »
We received stock of the WN1900 complete weather stations last week 868MHz. I'm sure we could get one setup for you to send data to to EAR if it would help you.
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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2021, 04:58:34 PM »
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I'm sure we could get one setup for you to send data to to EAR if it would help you.
That would be very friendly and helpful. Thank you!

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2021, 05:25:18 PM »
These are the parameters posted by a vn1900 in Italy ( not mine ):

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post PASSKEY: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
post stationtype: WS1900A_V1.1.8
post dateutc: 2021-12-16 22:18:13
post runtime: 2507832
post tempinf: 69.4
post humidityin: 50
post baromrelin: 30.522
post baromabsin: 30.519
post tempf: 41.7
post humidity: 86
post winddir: 10
post windspeedmph: 0.67
post windgustmph: 1.12
post maxdailygust: 11.41
post rainratein: 0.000
post eventrainin: 0.000
post hourlyrainin: 0.000
post dailyrainin: 0.000
post weeklyrainin: 0.000
post monthlyrainin: 1.248
post yearlyrainin: 10.213
post totalrainin: 10.213
post temp1f: 41.90
post humidity1: 85
post temp2f: 41.90
post humidity2: 84
post temp3f: 41.72
post humidity3: 85
post temp4f: 41.90
post humidity4: 82
post temp5f: 67.46
post humidity5: 52
post temp6f: 68.90
post humidity6: 53
post temp7f: 68.00
post humidity7: 55
post ws1900batt: 3.05
post wh65batt: 0
post batt1: 0
post batt2: 0
post batt3: 0
post batt4: 0
post batt5: 0
post batt6: 0
post batt7: 0
post freq: 868M
post model: WS1900

What I find strange is that it reports a ws1900bat and a wh65bat
« Last Edit: December 16, 2021, 05:28:42 PM by davidefa »

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2021, 05:45:54 PM »
Notorious inconsistency of the/with the model names  at Ecowitt :roll: (against their own naming rules  :oops:)

normally (unless changed meanwhile) the WN19x0 station is a WN19x0 console and a WN67 outdoor array (no solar panel, no solar sensors, just a "crippled" WH65) N=No solar panel. But, possibly the WN67 reports itself as a WH65. A WN19x0 console can work with a WH65, only cannot display the solar sensor data. When it runs with a WH65, then it could be called WS19x0, but the sensor array wouldn't know which console receives its signals. Maybe the console cannot distinguish between a WN67 and a WH65/WS69 ... #-o
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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2021, 06:13:36 PM »
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But, possibly the WN67 reports itself as a WH65.
It is conceivable that a WH65 will actually be used in this installation.
In the example, however, solarradiation and uv are missing - therefore I assume that the wh65batt shows the status of the outside sensor array - regardless of whether it is WN67 or WH65 or WS69. So there's probably an WN67 in use.
The ws1900batt key may indicate the battery level of the batteries built into the console. Exciting question: Does the value also show 5V when the power is supplied via a USB power supply unit?
Also of interest (for me) is the new key runtime, which apparently shows the time in seconds (here just under a month) since the last reboot.
Once again, they did not do without totalrainin. But maybe this time this key corresponds to reality and doesn't just contain the same value as yearlyrainin. Probably not.

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2021, 01:02:54 PM »
Sorry for the delay in getting this up and running, here is the results from the EAR service.

last line:

PASSKEY=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&stationtype=WS1900A_V1.1.8&dateutc=2021-12-20 17:59:17&runtime=145&tempinf=66.7&humidityin=55&baromrelin=30.059&baromabsin=30.059&tempf=40.3&humidity=88&winddir=354&windspeedmph=0.00&windgustmph=0.00&maxdailygust=0.00&solarradiation=0.00&uv=0&rainratein=0.000&eventrainin=0.000&hourlyrainin=0.000&dailyrainin=0.000&weeklyrainin=0.000&monthlyrainin=0.000&yearlyrainin=0.000&totalrainin=0.000&ws1900batt=3.03&wh65batt=0&freq=868M&model=WS1900 

last line in detail:
PASSKEY       xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
stationtype       WS1900A_V1.1.8
dateutc       2021-12-20 17:59:17
runtime       145
tempinf       66.7
humidityin       55
baromrelin       30.059
baromabsin       30.059
tempf       40.3
humidity       88
winddir       354
windspeedmph       0.00
windgustmph       0.00
maxdailygust       0.00
solarradiation       0.00
uv       0
rainratein       0.000
eventrainin       0.000
hourlyrainin       0.000
dailyrainin       0.000
weeklyrainin       0.000
monthlyrainin       0.000
yearlyrainin       0.000
totalrainin       0.000
ws1900batt       3.03
wh65batt       0
freq       868M
model       WS1900
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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2021, 03:46:02 PM »
Hi!

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Sorry for the delay in getting this up and running, here is the results from the EAR service.
Thanks. Looks good so far.
Just one question:
Did you test this with the standard outdoor array WN67 coming with the WS1900 or with a normal/separate WH65?
I wonder because there's a uv and solarradiation value beside the wh65batt:
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solarradiation       0.00
uv       0
[...]
wh65batt       0
If the device has no light sensors, it shouldn't output a value of 0 for it. It shouldn't output these keys at all.

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2021, 05:17:11 PM »
Hi Oliver,

It was tested with the WH65 unit as we have this already setup in the office.

Let men now if that causes a problem and you need a re-test with the WN67 unit.
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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2021, 05:29:51 PM »
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It was tested with the WH65
Thanks for clarification.
Then this makes sense. In the data from the Italian user there were no uv and no solarradiation. So there was probably a WN67 in use.
So:
if wh65batt and (uv or solarradiation) then WH65 in use
if wh65batt and not (uv or solarradiation) then WN67 in use

I had already prepared an email to Ecowitt with the request to refrain from transmitting uv and solarradiation with the WN67.
But they already seem to be handling it that way.
Thanks!

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2022, 05:29:30 AM »
Hi!

Today the WN1900C is available in the shop for the first time. I've been waiting for months for it to become available so I could buy a cheap console for the kids.
In the meantime, however, the device is so expensive that I'm already hesitating again.
Maybe you can help me decide by quickly buying all available devices?
;-)

Oliver

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2022, 07:32:03 AM »
Is this being sold with the WN67 or was that dropped?  All the descriptions and pictures are showing the 7in1 array with solar even though it’s not on the console.
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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2022, 07:38:48 AM »
Hi!

The WN1900 weather station with combi sensor was already available for purchase. What is new is that the console is now also offered individually - i.e. without the sensor that is useless for owners.

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2022, 08:48:16 AM »
Right, but the discussion was about whether or not the wn67 array comes with the array version.  Right now I’m just seeing the normal solar array not the stripped down version.   Put another way, I thought it was being implied the 1900 setup with array came with the stripped down array.
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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2022, 09:01:40 AM »
Hi!

I see no reason for discussion. There is no mention of a solar panel, UV measurement or brightness measurement on the WN1900 and WN1910 pages:
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1 * Outdoor Sensor with built-in: Thermo-hygrometer / Rain Gauge / Wind Speed Sensor/ Wind Direction Sensor.
I therefore assume that the crippled WN67 will be delivered.
On the pictures, the WN67 and WS69 may look identical, but instead of the solar panel, there is a plastic plate in the WN67.

But I'm pretty sure that the WH65/WS69 is supported (but the values for light are not displayed on the console).

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2022, 09:03:54 AM »
Right, but the discussion was about whether or not the wn67 array comes with the array version.  Right now I’m just seeing the normal solar array not the stripped down version.   Put another way, I thought it was being implied the 1900 setup with array came with the stripped down array.

I received the official version, neatly packaged, printed box.

The 5in1 and 7in1 look exactly the same.
The black transparent part does not has any electronics below it,
Manual is correct, it is the 5in1 without solar/uv.
The batteries are needed, without the 5in1 is not usable.

The WN1900 does not supply UV/solar in the custom upload.

It is a high price for a crippled station, albeit it is a small but very nice / clear console.
It even continues uploading when on battery-power.

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2022, 09:09:51 AM »
. . .
 There is no mention of a solar panel, UV measurement or brightness measurement on the WN1900 and WN1910 pages:
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1 * Outdoor Sensor with built-in: Thermo-hygrometer / Rain Gauge / Wind Speed Sensor/ Wind Direction Sensor.
I therefore assume that the crippled WN67 will be delivered.
On the pictures, the WN67 and WS69 may look identical, but instead of the solar panel, there is a plastic plate in the WN67.
. . .

Sadly the online documentation https://www.ecowitt.com/shop/goodsDetail/139 is not that clear:
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Wireless Outdoor Sensor: wind vane, wind speed cups, thermo-hygrometer sensor, rain gauge, bubble level and solar collector 7-in-1 integrated sensor(requires batteries to install as backup power - batteries not included); 100M Long range wireless connectivity

But the manual is correct, no solar/uv , batteries always needed

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2022, 09:13:13 AM »
Ding ding ding!  Hence my question.  The website says 7in1 for all versions of said product.   [tup]
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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2022, 09:15:12 AM »
Ding ding ding!  Hence my question.  The website says 7in1 for all versions of said product.   [tup]

We should better visit the native Chinese website and use Google translate  :oops:

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2022, 10:05:50 AM »
Hi!

Excuse me, now I see the cause of the discussion. Ecowitt should urgently get the website in order. Otherwise there will be (rightly!) angry customers.
It should not happen to refer to any technical features that are not included in the scope of delivery:
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Wireless Outdoor Sensor: wind vane, wind speed cups, thermo-hygrometer sensor, rain gauge, bubble level and solar collector 7-in-1 integrated sensor(requires batteries to install as backup power - batteries not included); 100M Long range wireless connectivity
Even if this is probably a simple copy/paste error from a station with WS69/WH65.

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2022, 11:02:28 AM »
I had already informed them some time ago and they replied that they are going to correct this.
They also had a picture (with name) of a WS69 array along which is wrong as it's the WN67 array (no solar sensor, no solar panel).
They promised to change - but only the picture has changed - not the text yet.
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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2022, 11:18:41 AM »
I didn't mean to cause a kerfuffle.  I just went to the web site to see what was what and then wondered if they changed the product.
Ambient Consoles: WS-2000, WS-1900, WS-1200, WS-2902C, WS-3000-X3, WS-0900-IP(observerIP), WS-1001-WIFI
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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2022, 11:25:36 AM »
Wim,

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It is a high price for a crippled station, albeit it is a small but very nice / clear console.
I don't remember seeing the dimensions for the console anywhere before. Would you please measure it?
Thanks!

BTW:
I don't understand at all why Ecowitt is launching a cheap version of the WS69 without the Supercap&Solarpanel.
Constantly changing batteries - that costs a lot of money for batteries and harms the environment.
Surely no user wants that?
The price difference can't be that big - the WS69 is available at ecowitstore.com for $59.49 and the WN1900C at Ecowitt for $59.99 (was $20 less until a few weeks ago).

If the bundle could be offered for $99, it would indeed be a good start that would also guarantee follow-up investments (because users don't want to keep changing the batteries). But at the current price, I think the station is not for sale (goedkoop).
But you have already proven me wrong.
;-)

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Re: WN1900 availability
« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2022, 12:39:18 PM »
Wim,

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It is a high price for a crippled station, albeit it is a small but very nice / clear console.
I don't remember seeing the dimensions for the console anywhere before. Would you please measure it?
Thanks!

The visible glass area is 8 cm wide and 9.5 cm height, total width 10.5  height 11 cm

Backlight has 4 levels.
Readability far better than the "blue" WH2320
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BTW:
I don't understand at all why Ecowitt is launching a cheap version of the WS69 without the Supercap&Solarpanel.
Constantly changing batteries - that costs a lot of money for batteries and harms the environment.
Surely no user wants that?
The price difference can't be that big - the WS69 is available at ecowitstore.com for $59.49 and the WN1900C at Ecowitt for $59.99 (was $20 less until a few weeks ago).

If the bundle could be offered for $99, it would indeed be a good start that would also guarantee follow-up investments (because users don't want to keep changing the batteries). But at the current price, I think the station is not for sale (goedkoop).
But you have already proven me wrong.
;-)

Oliver

I agree the console itself is now to heigh priced to use as an extra console on my desk to have the outside  temp/wind in  a glance.
But I like the white background and the sharp black letters.
For this price nobody will buy it instead of a GW1000.

The total package price is unattractive  because of the WS67  and one really needs the Wired Battery Pack to more easily replace the batteries and not have a lot of false measurements when bringing the 5in1 down from its pole.

My "complaint" is
  • their website text  uses words such as  " light  " and "backup battery"
  • their photo of the device is  identical to the solar version both on the website and on the box
They should have replaced the "black transparent" solar shield with a white one to let consumers understand this is a crippled 5in1 outside station.

Wim