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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #275 on: April 04, 2022, 09:18:55 AM »
Others thing... For the comparison a Davis station (with a good calibration and a manual gauge) is more useful than the WH40. The wh40 calculate only an average value of rain rate, the Davis station record the real time value of rain rate that is what we really need
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #276 on: April 04, 2022, 11:43:17 AM »
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I need to recalculate because the beta versions of wittboy record additional rain even if the hapitc sensor is damp or slightly wet. Ecowitt says that the kikstarter's version has an improved system to not active the piezo sensor with humidity.

I have one of the actual Kickstarter units and I noticed I got some false rain readings when the humid got high and we then has a hard frost. I hope this is not going to be problem.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #277 on: April 04, 2022, 12:44:44 PM »
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I need to recalculate because the beta versions of wittboy record additional rain even if the hapitc sensor is damp or slightly wet. Ecowitt says that the kikstarter's version has an improved system to not active the piezo sensor with humidity.

I have one of the actual Kickstarter units and I noticed I got some false rain readings when the humid got high and we then has a hard frost. I hope this is not going to be problem.
Annoyingly there is no escaping that particular issue.
My own tipping bucket rain gauge also records false rain events due to condensation.
I have a bee in my bonnet re sensor latency, so by coincidence I've been analysing (for my benefit) any data in that regard.
I've attached 1 plot that aims to distinguish the delay between the start of an event and the recording of the event.
I've attempted to use locations that also feature a leaf wetness sensor.
On the plot the tipping bucket would appear to have detected rain before the haptic. As the leaf wetness had been at 7-8% for some time, I suspect that is a condensation tip.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #278 on: April 04, 2022, 12:50:34 PM »
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I need to recalculate because the beta versions of wittboy record additional rain even if the hapitc sensor is damp or slightly wet. Ecowitt says that the kikstarter's version has an improved system to not active the piezo sensor with humidity.

I have one of the actual Kickstarter units and I noticed I got some false rain readings when the humid got high and we then has a hard frost. I hope this is not going to be problem.
Annoyingly there is no escaping that particular issue.
My own tipping bucket rain gauge also records false rain events due to condensation.
I have a bee in my bonnet re sensor latency, so by coincidence I've been analysing (for my benefit) any data in that regard.
I've attached 1 plot that aims to distinguish the delay between the start of an event and the recording of the event.
I've attempted to use locations that also feature a leaf wetness sensor.
On the plot the tipping bucket would appear to have detected rain before the haptic. As the leaf wetness had been at 7-8% for some time, I suspect that is a condensation tip.
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for the wmo regulation the condensation is a real precipitation.
The problem in this case is when the piezo sensor trigger when is wet (without a raining event)
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #279 on: April 04, 2022, 12:52:16 PM »
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I need to recalculate because the beta versions of wittboy record additional rain even if the hapitc sensor is damp or slightly wet. Ecowitt says that the kikstarter's version has an improved system to not active the piezo sensor with humidity.

I have one of the actual Kickstarter units and I noticed I got some false rain readings when the humid got high and we then has a hard frost. I hope this is not going to be problem.
how much false rain?
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #280 on: April 04, 2022, 01:00:50 PM »
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I need to recalculate because the beta versions of wittboy record additional rain even if the hapitc sensor is damp or slightly wet. Ecowitt says that the kikstarter's version has an improved system to not active the piezo sensor with humidity.

I have one of the actual Kickstarter units and I noticed I got some false rain readings when the humid got high and we then has a hard frost. I hope this is not going to be problem.
Annoyingly there is no escaping that particular issue.
My own tipping bucket rain gauge also records false rain events due to condensation.
I have a bee in my bonnet re sensor latency, so by coincidence I've been analysing (for my benefit) any data in that regard.
I've attached 1 plot that aims to distinguish the delay between the start of an event and the recording of the event.
I've attempted to use locations that also feature a leaf wetness sensor.
On the plot the tipping bucket would appear to have detected rain before the haptic. As the leaf wetness had been at 7-8% for some time, I suspect that is a condensation tip.
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for the wmo regulation the condensation is a real precipitation.
I agree with you entirely.
My issue is the timing, I've had a rain event several hours after dewfall.
For me personally, an accurate record is how much and precisely when.

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #281 on: April 04, 2022, 01:04:08 PM »
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I need to recalculate because the beta versions of wittboy record additional rain even if the hapitc sensor is damp or slightly wet. Ecowitt says that the kikstarter's version has an improved system to not active the piezo sensor with humidity.

I have one of the actual Kickstarter units and I noticed I got some false rain readings when the humid got high and we then has a hard frost. I hope this is not going to be problem.
Annoyingly there is no escaping that particular issue.
My own tipping bucket rain gauge also records false rain events due to condensation.
I have a bee in my bonnet re sensor latency, so by coincidence I've been analysing (for my benefit) any data in that regard.
I've attached 1 plot that aims to distinguish the delay between the start of an event and the recording of the event.
I've attempted to use locations that also feature a leaf wetness sensor.
On the plot the tipping bucket would appear to have detected rain before the haptic. As the leaf wetness had been at 7-8% for some time, I suspect that is a condensation tip.
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for the wmo regulation the condensation is a real precipitation.
I agree with you entirely.
My issue is the timing, I've had a rain event several hours after dewfall.
For me personally, an accurate record is how much and precisely when.

could it be a wireless interference?
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #282 on: April 04, 2022, 01:18:21 PM »
@giusCB
It took me by surprise at the time.
So I had a look inside the cone, there was another drip about to fall from the debris coil.
I think the Davis debris trap, the type supplied with the aerocone might be worth a try (if it annoys me too much  #-o).

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #283 on: April 05, 2022, 02:38:55 PM »
I've tested again with simulated rain but no problem for me
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #284 on: April 06, 2022, 05:33:43 AM »
Also on Kickstarter's unit remain this "ultrasensitive setting" on anemometer. Record a light breeze even if is closed in a box
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Fortunately lower than beta version ones (max 1.8/2.2)
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #285 on: April 06, 2022, 05:37:23 AM »
yes, but this you can calibrate down to zero using the calibrate button on the unit.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #286 on: April 06, 2022, 05:39:04 AM »
I tried with the cal button but it didn't work
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #287 on: April 06, 2022, 05:40:36 AM »
with the unit inside the box where it showed these 1.7 km/h ?
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #288 on: April 06, 2022, 05:41:50 AM »
Yes
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #289 on: April 06, 2022, 05:43:34 AM »
and you waited until the LED which flashes every 8 seconds stopped (meaning held the CAL button pressed down that long) ?
Maybe repeat it once or twice inside that box, press the CAL button down and hold it until the LED stops flashing = doesn't continue flashing every 8 seconds.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #290 on: April 06, 2022, 06:16:09 AM »
So, when the led stay on and then flashing every second i need to continue to push the cal button?
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #291 on: April 06, 2022, 06:23:04 AM »
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Hi, If this is the case, please put the device in a no wind location, press the CAL button, it will offset the wind speed to 0. Can you try? wait until the LED flashing stops, and flashes every 8s.


That was the Ecowitt technician's advice for that situation- how do you read that ?
It could be read such: press the button, hold it, (flashing will start - asumed, not said),hold it until it stops flashing and then only flashes every 8 seconds
I have to assume as I never had to do this myself. Mine behaves wisely.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #292 on: April 06, 2022, 06:27:09 AM »
Sorry I'm a newbie with this unit, where is the CAL button?

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #293 on: April 06, 2022, 06:29:15 AM »
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in that picture the WS90 unit is turned upside down.
The blue flashing LED is on the top of the unit.
Maybe you locate the CAL button and press/hold it from below while looking at the top of the unit in order to check the LED.  8-)
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #294 on: April 06, 2022, 06:30:29 AM »
Thanks for that, is there a manual describing the calibration function as I had nothing apart from a quick start guide with my unit from Kickstarter

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #295 on: April 06, 2022, 06:34:54 AM »
No, not really - but it's simple.
Before you set up your unit you place it in an wind free area, maybe indoors (with no fan running  8-)).
Then check the wind reading via the WS View App or over some time in the Ecowitt cloud.
If at no air movement you still have some wind shown, then you use that button to calibrate = set the zero point to the actual condition. (press, hold, LED flashes, hold until flashing stops,release, then the calibration should be done and the leD should continue flashing in a 8 second rhythm.
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #296 on: April 06, 2022, 06:35:51 AM »
No, not really - but it's simple.
Before you set up your unit you place it in an wind free area, maybe indoors (with no fan running  8-)).
Then check the wind reading via the WS View App or ovr some time in the Ecowitt cloud.
If at no air movement you still have some wind shown, then you use that button to calibrate = set the zero point to the actual condition. (press, hold, LED flashes, hold until flashing stops,release, then the calibration should be done and the leD should continue flashing in a 8 second rhythm.

Sorry to ask but which LED am I looking at?

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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #297 on: April 06, 2022, 06:40:20 AM »
No, not really - but it's simple.
Before you set up your unit you place it in an wind free area, maybe indoors (with no fan running  8-)).
Then check the wind reading via the WS View App or ovr some time in the Ecowitt cloud.
If at no air movement you still have some wind shown, then you use that button to calibrate = set the zero point to the actual condition. (press, hold, LED flashes, hold until flashing stops,release, then the calibration should be done and the leD should continue flashing in a 8 second rhythm.

Sorry to ask but which LED am I looking at?
on the top, where is located the solar/uvi sensor
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #298 on: April 06, 2022, 06:41:09 AM »
Ecowittweather/Admin
Hi, If this is the case, please put the device in a no wind location, press the CAL button, it will offset the wind speed to 0. Can you try? wait until the LED flashing stops, and flashes every 8s.


That was the Ecowitt technician's advice for that situation- how do you read that ?
It could be read such: press the button, hold it, (flashing will start - asumed, not said),hold it until it stops flashing and then only flashes every 8 seconds
I have to assume as I never had to do this myself. Mine behaves wisely.
Ok, now is clear. Thank you
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Re: WittBoy = GW2001 (station) = WS90 + GW2000 on Kickstarter & Beta test
« Reply #299 on: April 06, 2022, 06:51:17 AM »
in the WS80 manual whose ultrasonic unit is similar to the WS90 it only says that the CAL button is for manufacturer use.
Hence no further description. We had this issue coming up during the ß-test where Ecowitt would advise on how to handle naughty behaviour of the units.
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