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Title: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on October 17, 2014, 08:32:00 PM
$2.99 at one place in Ocala. First time I have seen it below $3 in a long time. \:D/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on October 17, 2014, 09:01:54 PM
$2.99 at one place in Ocala. First time I have seen it below $3 in a long time. \:D/

It's 2.69 here in NE Oklahoma.  Been under 3 for about week now.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Dr Obbins on October 17, 2014, 09:09:23 PM
$2.89 here in KY. (until after the election???)  :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on October 17, 2014, 09:26:29 PM
$2.99 at one place in Ocala. First time I have seen it below $3 in a long time. \:D/

I saw $2.78 here today.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: W3DRM on October 17, 2014, 11:17:09 PM
I'm jealous! Cheapest in this area is $3.29
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: DanS on October 18, 2014, 12:09:28 AM
I'm jealous! Cheapest in this area is $3.29

Still got us beat, lowest around here that I've seen was $3.50.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Mark / Ohio on October 18, 2014, 01:36:56 AM
We were down to $2.95 several days ago.  But now back up to $3.15. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Central Maine Weather on October 18, 2014, 03:12:32 AM
I wish we were lucky enough to see it under $2 here as well! The lowest I've seen it around here is $3.22.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: corwyyn on October 18, 2014, 05:39:06 AM
$2.95 and up in my area, there is one station showing $2.89 but I've always had problems with that place so I don't even look at it when I drive by.  I'm with Dr. Obbins, we'll see what happens after the 4th.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on October 18, 2014, 06:55:04 AM
$2.99 at one place in Ocala. First time I have seen it below $3 in a long time. \:D/

It's 2.69 here in NE Oklahoma.  Been under 3 for about week now.
:shock: Wow!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on October 18, 2014, 08:59:11 AM
$2.89 here in KY. (until after the election???)  :roll:

My secret to winter heat savings is to always have my oil tank filled on election day.  Hasn't failed me yet.

Diesel at the two local truck stop chain locations just hit $3.999, down from the highway robbery of $4.599 during the summer.  Sadly, the diesel price at a truck stop just over the border in NJ is $3.459 as I type this.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on October 18, 2014, 09:23:16 AM
$2.89 here in KY. (until after the election???)  :roll:

My secret to winter heat savings is to always have my oil tank filled on election day.  Hasn't failed me yet.

Diesel at the two local truck stop chain locations just hit $3.999, down from the highway robbery of $4.599 during the summer.  Sadly, the diesel price at a truck stop just over the border in NJ is $3.459 as I type this.....

state taxes   #-o
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on October 18, 2014, 09:26:50 AM
I saw $3.07 here yesterday.  It is still kind of depressing that we're getting excited about gas at $2.99!  As far as heating oil goes, we usually run all summer on what ever is left over in the tank after heating season.  Sadly, this year we ran out of oil in August, I'm sure we paid top dollar for our fill then.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: 92merc on October 18, 2014, 10:44:42 AM
Bismarck, ND  Just dropped to 3.29 this week.  Just 200 miles east in Fargo, it's 2.99.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on October 18, 2014, 10:50:35 AM
We have also been going down, now at C$1.159 per litre (U$3.905 per US Gal) from a summer high C$1.359/ltr (U$4.578/gal) but this is a lot more than the U$2.99 you're getting  #-o .

but I still have some C$0.950 per litre  :)  left on my Ford card from my new vehicle purchase in March.
 
Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on October 18, 2014, 12:21:41 PM
Down to a buck a liter (or less!) in some parts of Alberta now.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ALITTLEweird1 on October 18, 2014, 01:10:31 PM
3.68 here  #-o
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CNYWeather on October 18, 2014, 02:17:22 PM
$3.53 in town. Went down 4 cents yesterday.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on October 18, 2014, 02:25:31 PM
I paid $3.009 today, then saw $2.999 on my way home.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 19, 2014, 06:23:08 PM
Most everyone here in TX is below $3, I filled up the other day for $2.88. When I moved to MX 7 years ago gas was cheap, something like $7 pesos per litre, it's now approaching $13 per liter. They increase every month and if my math is correct it's now $3.70 per gallon and it ain't ever going down, it's gov controlled.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: miraculon on October 19, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
Most everyone here in TX is below $3, I filled up the other day for $2.88. When I moved to MX 7 years ago gas was cheap, something like $7 pesos per litre, it's now approaching $13 per liter. They increase every month and if my math is correct it's now $3.70 per gallon and it ain't ever going down, it's gov controlled.

Is the choice for gas in Mexico still Pemex, Pemex or Pemex?  :lol:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/ac/Pemex_logo.svg/200px-Pemex_logo.svg.png)

Greg H.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 19, 2014, 07:14:27 PM
Ha, yes, Pemex by any other standard would be the same. It is a bit amusing now that I'm back up here to see prices from $2.95 to well over $3.20 for the same stuff - and, I have to pump it myself?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: dj1111s on October 19, 2014, 07:59:06 PM
My wife is always checking and commenting/complaining about gas prices.  I never watch them.  I tell people that when you drive a 14 year old Saturn S series you don't worry about the cost of gas.  27 city 40 highway.  :grin:  Work is 4.5 miles from home.  :grin:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: George Richardson on October 19, 2014, 08:31:22 PM
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia, local watering hole, $2.599/gal.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on October 20, 2014, 02:54:40 AM
$4.14 an gallon and fuel oil $4.50 an gallon. and this is cheap  in western Alaska  prices can range upto as much a 9 dollars an gallon.

Yeah your auto clubs don't check around .

John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: mcrossley on October 20, 2014, 04:17:17 AM
I make our unleaded $7.76 in Cheshire, UK  ;)

That is £1.27 per litre -> $ -> US Gallon

Diesel = $8.03
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Silversword on October 20, 2014, 03:44:33 PM
Hi All,

Come to Hawaii.  Street prices on Maui is at $4.45 for the past month or so.  At Costco, cheapest on island, is at $3.74.  Go figure why the difference...

Regards,

--Stan Y.
   Maui, Hawaii
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on October 20, 2014, 04:26:43 PM
Quote
I make our unleaded $7.76 in Cheshire, UK  (http://www.wxforum.net/Smileys/default/icon_wink.gif)

That is £1.27 per litre -> $ -> US Gallon

Diesel = $8.03
Mark, with those prices makes ours not look so bad. 
 
Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on October 20, 2014, 05:51:04 PM
I haven't been to town in the last couple of weeks so I don't know what we're at now.

I was doing some bookeeping, entering some old receipts that had been pigeonholed and found some from 2010 in the $2.50 range.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on October 20, 2014, 08:58:54 PM
Quote
I make our unleaded $7.76 in Cheshire, UK  (http://www.wxforum.net/Smileys/default/icon_wink.gif)

That is £1.27 per litre -> $ -> US Gallon

Diesel = $8.03
Mark, with those prices makes ours not look so bad. 
 
Paul
I'll say. There would be a riot over here if we had to pay that much. Those oil companies just print money.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on October 20, 2014, 10:36:29 PM
Quote
I make our unleaded $7.76 in Cheshire, UK  (http://www.wxforum.net/Smileys/default/icon_wink.gif)

That is £1.27 per litre -> $ -> US Gallon

Diesel = $8.03
Mark, with those prices makes ours not look so bad. 
 
Paul
I'll say. There would be a riot over here if we had to pay that much. Those oil companies just print money.

Believe me, there are bunches of people in the USA doing their damndest to get prices that high.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on October 21, 2014, 02:21:00 AM
Already are that high in Nome. Last barge of the season determines the price on gas and fuel oil.


John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on October 22, 2014, 12:48:46 AM
My favorite two places to get gas has it at $2.83.  http://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html (http://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on October 22, 2014, 12:25:55 PM
Yep, we got an election coming up
$2.85 in Poulsbo, WA
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on October 22, 2014, 08:14:12 PM
So much for cheap gas

2.89 last week

2.99 sunday

3.19 today
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on October 22, 2014, 08:58:13 PM
In Europe taxes are the issue.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on October 22, 2014, 10:03:11 PM
Yep, we got an election coming up
$2.85 in Poulsbo, WA

Yeah, but my oil stocks are tanked (no pun intended.........well, maybe it was   #-o  )
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: dj1111s on October 23, 2014, 06:18:33 PM
$3.09 here.  Had to ask my wife.  :grin:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 23, 2014, 07:23:26 PM
$2.82 in Marble Falls, TX today most everyone is under $3.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 28, 2014, 09:08:10 AM
$2.79 today in TX, still dropping.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CNYWeather on October 28, 2014, 12:23:50 PM
$3.34 here. We're 30 cents above the national average still.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on October 28, 2014, 12:41:59 PM
$3.34 here. We're 30 cents above the national average still.


In Oklahoma, the roads and highways tend to be in poor, bumpy condition from not enough money to maintain them due to low gas taxes.  Are the roads in pretty decent shape where you're from?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: W3DRM on October 28, 2014, 12:49:50 PM
Filled-up at COSTCO yesterday in Carson City and paid $3.12 a gallon. Cheapest I've seen it here in a long long time...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 28, 2014, 02:39:02 PM
I saw $2.57 in Liberty Hill this morning, business looked brisk, most everyone else is still at $2.74.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CNYWeather on October 28, 2014, 02:57:21 PM
$3.34 here. We're 30 cents above the national average still.


In Oklahoma, the roads and highways tend to be in poor, bumpy condition from not enough money to maintain them due to low gas taxes.  Are the roads in pretty decent shape where you're from?

Nope. In NY, they have 'borrowed" money from what's set aside from gas tax thats supposed to be for highway and bridge repair. Not enough money to fix anything.
Bridges functionally obsolete, roads havent been paved in 15-20 years and so on. lol
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on October 28, 2014, 03:03:46 PM
We have pretty high fuel taxes in MA.  We have the opposite problem.  I can't remember a time when they weren't fixing the road.  Cones and barrels everywhere!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on October 28, 2014, 03:57:52 PM
Nope. In NY, they have 'borrowed" money from what's set aside from gas tax thats supposed to be for highway and bridge repair. Not enough money to fix anything.

There is certainly enough tax money available to fix elections, as in give it to people who don't want to work in exchange for their votes for more handouts.

In the mean time, this county bridge locally has been washed out for so long (Hurricane Irene in 2011) that Google Maps has been updated with an aerial picture of the damage:

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4568572,-74.0395854,102m/data=!3m1!1e3 (https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4568572,-74.0395854,102m/data=!3m1!1e3)

Our roads here in NY are generally sound and passable, but could be a whole lot better considering the fuel taxes that we pay.  New Jersey has much lower fuel taxes and much better roads.  The worst roads that I've ever driven on were in Minnesota, and I'm talking bad enough where I had to slow down to well below the speed limits through much of the state because I was afraid that the bumps on the Interstate highways were going to pitch my pickup truck into a ditch.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on October 28, 2014, 04:34:13 PM
It's $2.99 in Huntington, WV for most places... Saw a couple of $2.94s in a couple of places though. Across the river, it's $2.79 in Ohio. High gas taxes in the Mountain State.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on October 28, 2014, 08:38:51 PM
In Oklahoma, the roads and highways tend to be in poor, bumpy condition from not enough money to maintain them due to low gas taxes.  Are the roads in pretty decent shape where you're from?

I drove an 18 wheeler for three years over the road.  I went to every (lower 48) state except for Maine, Oregon and Washington.  The worst roads are Arkansas, Louisiana, Pennsylvania, and Illinois.  The best roads are Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida.  I think they ought to make toll roads/bridges illegal and never have another one.  No state has good signage, although Michigan has internally-lit signs in some places and I really liked that.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Dr Obbins on November 06, 2014, 07:34:11 AM
$2.89 here in KY. (until after the election???)  :roll:
Gas hit bottom on Tuesday at $2.69 here. Now 2 days after the election we jump $0.30 to $2.99.  #-o :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on November 06, 2014, 08:59:21 AM
Gas hit bottom on Tuesday at $2.69 here. Now 2 days after the election we jump $0.30 to $2.99.  #-o :roll:

No surprise here.  I stuffed my pickup to the gills with $3.65 diesel on Tuesday morning, knowing for a fact that the prices would be going back to normal the moment that the polls closed on Tuesday evening.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: moehoward4 on November 06, 2014, 11:15:36 AM
......and watch how high they'll go just before Thanksgiving........
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on November 06, 2014, 11:17:53 AM
$2.89 here in KY. (until after the election???)  :roll:
Gas hit bottom on Tuesday at $2.69 here. Now 2 days after the election we jump $0.30 to $2.99.  #-o :roll:

Interesting.  Hit bottom for us about three weeks ago at that same price, then jumped up 15 cents to 2.84.  Now it's back to about 2.79

But in Tulsa, that's how it rolls.  It jumps up in increments of 5 or 10 cents (usually 10 and very occasionally, like last time, 15 cents).  Then it decreases a penny at a time, sometimes 2.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on November 06, 2014, 01:53:45 PM
OPEC in the news today, still cutting prices, so who knows.

Stations will jack it up a bit to screw the Holiday travelers though.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CNYWeather on November 06, 2014, 04:01:31 PM
"Down" to $3.35 here.  :???:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 06, 2014, 05:09:49 PM
Mostly $2.71 here in central TX.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 06, 2014, 06:40:36 PM
3.19 here but at the Indian casino 18 mile round trip 3.10.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 06, 2014, 06:50:17 PM
I've been to the Rosebud Reservation casino. The noise you hear as you enter is a huge vacuum sucking money out of your pockets. When I was a road salesman I collected pins from everywhere I went and my wife made jean jackets with them, there's a pin from that casino - and a whole bunch more. The jackets weigh about 10lbs each.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 06, 2014, 06:59:46 PM
I've been to the Rosebud Reservation casino. The noise you hear as you enter is a huge vacuum sucking money out of your pockets. When I was a road salesman I collected pins from everywhere I went and my wife made jean jackets with them, there's a pin from that casino - and a whole bunch more. The jackets weigh about 10lbs each.

Thats funny " huge vacuum sucking money out ". I think all casinos are like that. My son and I went in with 20$ each and I was cleaned out in about an hour after being up $60, but he ended up plus $78. Then we left unlike many who keep going. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: cospringswx on November 06, 2014, 11:58:29 PM
Around 2.80 here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on November 07, 2014, 12:57:36 AM
I've been to the Rosebud Reservation casino. The noise you hear as you enter is a huge vacuum sucking money out of your pockets. When I was a road salesman I collected pins from everywhere I went and my wife made jean jackets with them, there's a pin from that casino - and a whole bunch more. The jackets weigh about 10lbs each.

Try living in Oklahoma.  The Cherokee Nation Casino just East of Tulsa (which for all intents and purposes is now Hard Rock Tulsa), three Osage Nation casinos and a Creek Nation casino are all in Tulsa County.  In the entire state of Oklahoma there are 99 casinos that are owned by 30 different tribes.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 07, 2014, 07:08:51 AM
Went down here again. 2.999
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on November 08, 2014, 08:30:18 PM
I've been to the Rosebud Reservation casino. The noise you hear as you enter is a huge vacuum sucking money out of your pockets. When I was a road salesman I collected pins from everywhere I went and my wife made jean jackets with them, there's a pin from that casino - and a whole bunch more. The jackets weigh about 10lbs each.

Try living in Oklahoma.  The Cherokee Nation Casino just East of Tulsa (which for all intents and purposes is now Hard Rock Tulsa), three Osage Nation casinos and a Creek Nation casino are all in Tulsa County.  In the entire state of Oklahoma there are 99 casinos that are owned by 30 different tribes.

One is 10 miles to the south of me and another one is 20 miles north.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on November 08, 2014, 08:47:27 PM
Still 2.85 to 2.90 here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 08, 2014, 08:51:07 PM
The trend is good, just saw $2.52 at a Gulf with their credit card.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on November 09, 2014, 12:06:41 PM
The trend is good, just saw $2.52 at a Gulf with their credit card.

I paid $2.55 with a Kroger card yesterday (regularly $2.75)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 09, 2014, 01:02:44 PM
Ok, I'm curious, why the big discounts with a company credit card vs. cash or bank debit card? Everyone is pushing their credit cards like crazy? I've been out of the country for 7 years, but I don't remember it like this when I left. Are they assuming you'll run up a balance they can gouge you interest for?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on November 09, 2014, 05:20:09 PM
Ok, I'm curious, why the big discounts with a company credit card vs. cash or bank debit card? Everyone is pushing their credit cards like crazy? I've been out of the country for 7 years, but I don't remember it like this when I left. Are they assuming you'll run up a balance they can gouge you interest for?

Bingo!  We have a winner!!  http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/credit-card-data/average-credit-card-debt-household/  And it gets even more depressing when you see how many only make the minimum payment.  They could give the gas away and probably still make money.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on December 01, 2014, 11:58:40 PM
The trend is good, just saw $2.52 at a Gulf with their credit card.

I paid $2.55 with a Kroger card yesterday (regularly $2.75)

I filled up my truck yesterday for $25.01.  I paid $1.629 using my Kroger discount card.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: cospringswx on December 02, 2014, 12:54:12 AM
Damn Greg thats cheap. :shock:  Cheapest is 2.39 here.

http://www.cospringsweather.com/wxgasprices.php
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: corwyyn on December 02, 2014, 01:20:32 AM
Damn Greg thats cheap. :shock:  Cheapest is 2.39 here.

http://www.cospringsweather.com/wxgasprices.php
Yeah but that also means he's spent a bit to earn the 60-70 cents off, of course if he's got a large enough family it probably doesn't take much to build up like that.

Cheapest I've seen in my area is around $2.55 but it looks like it is still dropping.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on December 02, 2014, 02:11:17 AM
It was $2.55 without the discount, I believe.  Thanksgiving shopping racked up a lot of discount points.  I'll probably not see it that cheap again for a while (if ever).
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 02, 2014, 08:46:12 AM
I saw $2.33 yesterday so it's still coming down.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on December 02, 2014, 06:28:20 PM
2.44 lowest reported around here.
still 2.55 by me.

twincitiesgasprices.com

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WA4TM on December 17, 2014, 07:22:44 PM
For what it's worth,, we made it to $1.94 today. If this keeps up I may be able to afford to drive across town just for the heck of it!!  =D>

http://www.tennesseegasprices.com/index.aspx?area=Cleveland (http://www.tennesseegasprices.com/index.aspx?area=Cleveland)
 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 17, 2014, 08:19:13 PM
Wow, that's a heck of a difference, I filled up yesterday for $2.13.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on December 17, 2014, 08:34:08 PM
For what it's worth,, we made it to $1.94 today. If this keeps up I may be able to afford to drive across town just for the heck of it!!  =D>

http://www.tennesseegasprices.com/index.aspx?area=Cleveland (http://www.tennesseegasprices.com/index.aspx?area=Cleveland)
Holy crap!!
I was going to post that it made it to 2.43 here. Guess I'll slide away with my tale between my legs. :oops:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on December 17, 2014, 08:47:37 PM
We got as low as $0.899 /lr.  Sure better than the $1.359 in the summer.  And just when my $0.95 Ford gas card ran out \:D/

Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Central Maine Weather on December 17, 2014, 09:10:50 PM
Lowest I've seen here was $2.58. It's coming down slowly but steadily though! :-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: corwyyn on December 17, 2014, 11:57:08 PM
Filled up yesterday for $2.149, several stations around the metro area had it at $1.999 with the expected lines around the block! Hoping it continues the trend thru at least the first part of 2015
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 18, 2014, 08:28:16 AM
Yes, just saw this today http://www.statesman.com/news/business/gas-for-less-than-2-a-gallon-its-here/njT7S/ (http://www.statesman.com/news/business/gas-for-less-than-2-a-gallon-its-here/njT7S/)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: txweather.org on December 18, 2014, 11:26:41 AM
Ethanol: $1.79 a Gallon. Spring, Texas.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on December 18, 2014, 12:30:35 PM
With West Virginia having a high gas tax, we're still $2.599  ](*,)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Otis on December 18, 2014, 05:55:52 PM
I saw $2.25 here today.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ALITTLEweird1 on December 18, 2014, 09:04:26 PM
With West Virginia having a high gas tax, we're still $2.599  ](*,)

Our tax is the 2nd highest in the country at .37/gallon. The lowest in our town is $2.65/gallon.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Unit-53 on December 18, 2014, 09:36:08 PM
Gas here drop to $2.11 per gallon.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 18, 2014, 09:46:43 PM
Ah, the privilege of Gov and those we "elected" to hold out your hand and collect for something you never ever invested in research of, never speculated in, or about, never "personally" needed etc, and yet you collect from every person who needs a single drop of the product you don't own, never paid for transportation of and never assisted in the creation or refinement of - wow, sure genius, or?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 21, 2014, 05:36:47 PM
$2.09 is common now, ho ho ho? But, now we're getting to the point it's hurting our drilling/fracking industry.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Unit-53 on December 21, 2014, 05:49:21 PM
Here, it's $2.03 a Gal
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on December 21, 2014, 11:02:27 PM
Cheapest in Tulsa I've seen today:  $1.85/gallon.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on December 21, 2014, 11:57:53 PM
$2.09 is common now, ho ho ho? But, now we're getting to the point it's hurting our drilling/fracking industry.

I'd say that's one of the objectives of the Saudis.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on December 22, 2014, 12:34:35 AM
Ethanol: $1.79 a Gallon. Spring, Texas.

Ethanol doesn't count, especially E85.  Almost all gas now has ~10 percent ethanol in it.  100% gas in our neck of the woods is usually a quarter more.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: MesquiteWx on December 22, 2014, 02:49:46 AM
$1.89 here in N. Texas. That is a good enough Christmas present for me. I thought I would never see these prices again in my life time. Last time I seen it this low a pack of smokes was $2.50 a pack. Long gone are those days. The gas break is much welcomed for my wallet.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 24, 2014, 06:09:50 PM
Santa strikes again hohoho, I filled up today for $1.86, never thought I'd see this again, Merry Christmas to all.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on December 26, 2014, 10:07:11 PM
2.22 and still falling. Probably won't catch up to you guys but I'll take it.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on December 26, 2014, 10:08:32 PM
1.75 in Tulsa and still falling.  Wow.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: corwyyn on December 26, 2014, 10:22:58 PM
Finally starting to see prices below$1.90 here in the valley but everything in my immediate area is still hovering right at $2 a gallon.

On a related note I was going thru some pictures in my photobucket account and came across this scan from one of my H.S. yearbooks circa 1980 or so:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k180/corwyyn/gas_price.jpg)

Hey a guy can dream right?!?  Of course that was also for leaded regular gasoline which would probably get a person drawn and quartered nowadays but boy did the ol' 69 El Camino run good on that stuff!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on December 26, 2014, 10:31:10 PM
Back in '80 I used to splurge on Getty Premium at $.85 a gallon every fourth tankful for my '72 Firebird.  Yes, the cars ran great on leaded gas, but I think having air that is 20 times cleaner now is probably a good thing.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on December 26, 2014, 11:29:01 PM
Corwyyn-I am impressed at the Vickers logo.   Been a long time since I have seen that.
There were not a lot of those in rural Iowa when I was a kid.  Des Moines had them.

Clark has a few around MPLS.
NW Iowa still has Sinclair.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: corwyyn on December 26, 2014, 11:55:45 PM
Yeah Vickers was all over Albuquerque and the surrounding areas when I was growing up, most eventually became Diamond Shamrock stations (don't know if they got bought out or if Diamond Shamrock just took over a bunch of defunct stations).  Still see Sinclair down here in the Phoenix metro, used to see them all over the southwest when I was growing up but today they are not as prevalent. 

And yeah I hate to think what the air over most any metro area would be like today if we still ran leaded gas but I do kind of miss those days.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on December 27, 2014, 03:04:28 AM
Yeah Vickers was all over Albuquerque and the surrounding areas when I was growing up, most eventually became Diamond Shamrock stations (don't know if they got bought out or if Diamond Shamrock just took over a bunch of defunct stations).  Still see Sinclair down here in the Phoenix metro, used to see them all over the southwest when I was growing up but today they are not as prevalent. 

And yeah I hate to think what the air over most any metro area would be like today if we still ran leaded gas but I do kind of miss those days.

The four or five Vicker's stations in Tulsa back in the late eighties/early nineties were bought out and renamed Total.  Those lasted for a little while but not very long.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on December 27, 2014, 06:44:46 AM
And yeah I hate to think what the air over most any metro area would be like today if we still ran leaded gas but I do kind of miss those days.

I was following a 1970's carbureted car the other day, and the fumes gave me a headache after a few miles.  I miss the days of ethanol-free fuel, but not the days without emissions control.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on December 27, 2014, 09:42:09 AM
It's funny.  Antifreeze is about 4 times the price it was then too.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on December 27, 2014, 09:44:24 AM
When I bought a used 76 cutlass in high school, there were two options for gas.  Leaded and unleaded. Of course, unleaded was 3 cents more expensive.   NAPA sold a catalytic converter replacement pipe.  So I took it off and put in the pipe.  Never thought about it. It never ran different and leaded fuel went away.

2.15-New Hope MInn.  May be dropping
1.98 Clear Lake Iowa
2.03 Fort Dodge Iowa

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Mark / Ohio on December 27, 2014, 01:34:09 PM
We done the same thing to our 77 Delta 88 when the cat plugged up.  They called it a "test" pipe.  Carried an adapter so we could run leaded gas in it if we needed to.  Ran it that way until we sold it in the 1980's.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: LFWX on December 28, 2014, 12:52:50 AM
Ah, the privilege of Gov and those we "elected" to hold out your hand and collect for something you never ever invested in research of, never speculated in, or about, never "personally" needed etc, and yet you collect from every person who needs a single drop of the product you don't own, never paid for transportation of and never assisted in the creation or refinement of - wow, sure genius, or?

Hmm, you lost me. Are you talking about the "gas tax"?

If so, the so called "gas tax" is actually a transportation tax - it's used to pay for the construction and maintenance of roads. Since we don't currently have devices reporting our mileage & weight to the government, the next best option is to charge by the amount of gas we each consume.

Obviously this is not as fair as it used to be, some people get much better gas mileage (pay less per mile) with the same size vehicle and drivers of electric cars are not using any gas at all! Plus all the gas used to mow lawns, run machinery, etc. is not even being used on the roads. The "gas tax" is a bit outdated.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: cospringswx on December 28, 2014, 01:37:44 AM
I paid $1.89 today at Kum and Go on Barnes and Tutt in Colorado Springs. \:D/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 28, 2014, 08:57:03 AM
If all the funds collected actually went to "transportation" it might be enough, but as it is, TX has been raiding or diverting some of that money to other areas for 80 years i.e. fully 25% goes to schools. So, the same thief at the pump is also dishonest in where the monies are spent. Of course as I said earlier, the same crew of "elected" officials that mandate more fuel efficient cars now whine there isn't enough money.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on December 28, 2014, 10:48:34 AM
$2.35 in town a couple of days ago. That's literally the lowest I have seen it since I was 11 years old when Hurricane Katrina hit.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 28, 2014, 01:33:14 PM
I'm a bit "longer in the tooth" obviously because I can remember when I was a kid dating, I always held back 50 cents so I could get a gallon or two of gas to get me home. That would have been late 50's.

PS: the days of living cheap in MX are gone as well, when I left in Sept, the price was 12 pesos per liter and if my math is correct even at today's exchange rate that's $3.07 per gallon and it never goes down, but raises once a month.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: dj1111s on January 02, 2015, 06:40:32 PM
Finally below $2.00 today in Sheboygan. Will cost less than $20.00 to fill the Saturn now. And that typically lasts me 3 weeks.  \:D/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 02, 2015, 06:50:08 PM
3 weeks? - that's because you're snowed in 2 of those weeks and can't move the car - ha.

Yes, I filled the Jeep today for $29 at $1.79, haven't done that for years here or MX, feels good, so I headed directly to Home Depot and invested in some more saw dust (it comes pre-packaged as 2X4's).
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on January 02, 2015, 08:04:09 PM
1.95 here Then took off 40 cents with my Cub foods gas card. 
By shear coincidence-we filled up and washed all three cars today. Total cost around 80. 
At one point, I put 60 in the Dakota for a half tank. It is a good time to have gas go down.
We inherited moms car. Kid 1 gets her license in Feb, but I will drive it on non snow days. It gets 20 in town when the Dakota would get 12.  I am driving her around most of the time anyway.

1.79 in other places in town.  Can't believe it.

Just had a thought- will companies suspend gas/grocery discounts now that gas is cheaper?
We have Cub foods paired with Holiday station stores.
Hy-Vee in Iowa has Hy-Vee gas. (coming soon to New Hope!!!)

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: dj1111s on January 03, 2015, 08:56:01 AM
3 weeks? - that's because you're snowed in 2 of those weeks and can't move the car - ha.

That could be possibly if it would ever snow here this winter.  The Saturn is low to the ground and weighs just over a ton so it sucks in deep snow.  But it makes it through 95% of the time with skilled driving and good tires.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 03, 2015, 09:04:49 AM
When I lived in Chicago during the late 70's big snow years I drove a '65 Vette, definitely fun because you're basically sitting on the back tires, so you feel every slip and twitch.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on January 03, 2015, 10:13:52 AM
When I lived in Chicago during the late 70's big snow years I drove a '65 Vette, definitely fun because you're basically sitting on the back tires, so you feel every slip and twitch.
My dream car. 

Our second car is a BMW Z3.  It's not usually much of a problem because my wife works from home.  On the rare days when I have to take it out in the weather I used to think it was horrible in the snow.  Then I realized it just needed a set of new tires on the rear. ](*,)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on January 03, 2015, 11:11:56 AM
Just had a thought- will companies suspend gas/grocery discounts now that gas is cheaper?

Saw this in another forum a few days ago, purchased with accumulated grocery discounts in Ohio:

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa391/macko300exc/IMAG0149_zpswgvuvtod.jpg)

By my math, that's $0.30/gallon...for diesel!!!!!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on January 03, 2015, 08:51:47 PM
Our second car is a BMW Z3.  It's not usually much of a problem because my wife works from home.  On the rare days when I have to take it out in the weather I used to think it was horrible in the snow.  Then I realized it just needed a set of new tires on the rear. ](*,)

You'd think the Germans would build a car that was good in the snow!   :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on January 03, 2015, 09:57:30 PM
You'd think the Germans would build a car that was good in the snow!   :roll:

They do!  The aforementioned Z3 was manufactured exclusively in South Carolina, where the mere forecast of snow results in a state of emergency being declared and schools closing for a week.....  :lol:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on January 04, 2015, 12:12:44 PM
You'd think the Germans would build a car that was good in the snow!   :roll:

They do!  The aforementioned Z3 was manufactured exclusively in South Carolina, where the mere forecast of snow results in a state of emergency being declared and schools closing for a week.....  :lol:

LOL Same here!  The dairy and bakers love to hear snow in the forecast.  The grocery stores will be out of milk and bread within hours.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on January 18, 2015, 05:09:26 PM
It leveled off for a while now it's beginning to inch down again. $2.09.
First report of sub $2.00 just north of me came in today.  :grin:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on January 18, 2015, 05:23:23 PM
You'd think the Germans would build a car that was good in the snow!   :roll:

They do!  The aforementioned Z3 was manufactured exclusively in South Carolina, where the mere forecast of snow results in a state of emergency being declared and schools closing for a week.....  :lol:


LOL Same here!  The dairy and bakers love to hear snow in the forecast.  The grocery stores will be out of milk and bread within hours.

If I lived there, I would still have to stay home for fear of being crushed by some idiot that can't drive in snow.

It hit 40F and sunny here today.  I went outside in a pullover. Most people had on lightweight jackets.

I can hear the southerners talking about it being too cold.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 18, 2015, 05:32:37 PM
A lovely 72 degree sunny day in TX, filled up for $1.59 a gallon, what more could I ask?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 18, 2015, 05:36:18 PM
1.90-2.09 here now. Crazy low prices compared to cost of living index. Probable like when I saw gas wars and 15 cents a gallon down in the Houston area back in the 60's.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Silversword on January 18, 2015, 05:53:00 PM
I wish that all those prices over in the lower 48 was over here.
I filled up this morning at $2.659 at our whole sale place.  Street prices is around $3.699 for this island.

Regards,

--Stan Y.
   Maui, Hawaii
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Unit-53 on January 18, 2015, 07:01:16 PM
A lovely 72 degree sunny day in TX, filled up for $1.59 a gallon, what more could I ask?

S&H Green stamps......
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on January 18, 2015, 07:13:38 PM
If I lived there, I would still have to stay home for fear of being crushed by some idiot that can't drive in snow.

This has to be the luckiest man in the world:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/18/us/oregon-crash-survivor/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on January 18, 2015, 07:22:10 PM
A lovely 72 degree sunny day in TX, filled up for $1.59 a gallon, what more could I ask?

A new $3000 hemi Roadrunner.   8-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on January 18, 2015, 07:23:33 PM
Although it's good for most people, the oil field layoffs are starting and the local economies in the oil boom towns are going to dry up and blow away.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Dr Obbins on January 18, 2015, 08:25:14 PM
If I lived there, I would still have to stay home for fear of being crushed by some idiot that can't drive in snow.

This has to be the luckiest man in the world:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/18/us/oregon-crash-survivor/

He should get together with this guy (http://youtu.be/jUoYj2Lur2I)  :shock:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on January 18, 2015, 10:30:13 PM
Although it's good for most people, the oil field layoffs are starting and the local economies in the oil boom towns are going to dry up and blow away.
That is only the face of it.  The suppliers to O&G will get decimated.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 18, 2015, 11:00:36 PM
That's a fact, the State of TX is already planning on a downturn in revenues and of course the fracking industry will take a hit plus already the opposition is questioning whether the Keystone pipeline is worth it at lower prices etc. It's nice to fillup for $27, but there's a much larger price to pay.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on January 18, 2015, 11:04:41 PM
I use the conspiracy theory on this.

Saudi Arabia wants to crush the North Dakota oil boom.  Drops price to a point that makes it a negative to pump.  Then drives the price up. 

But they need to realize, The oil will always be there and technology is getting better.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on January 18, 2015, 11:27:46 PM
SA's cost of production is a fraction of what it is in North America (regardless of which tech is in use).  And while the oil is there, that new tech ain't cheap!  I spent close to 35 years in O&G in all facets and let me tell you, enjoy this low price while you can (anyone else remember $10 oil?) it WILL go up.  The only question is when and how high.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on January 18, 2015, 11:34:43 PM
I paid $1.97.9 for the first time today on the way to the Patriots game.  A good day all around!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 19, 2015, 06:41:12 AM
This has to be some kind of (gas war) attempt to bust the competition like oil shale, Keystone, etc. it won't last. The oil shale industry is taking record numbers of rigs out of service. Its comparable to what Walmart does when they come into  communities open super stores undercutting everyone with low price tiering and when the competition goes out of business start raising the price tier. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on January 19, 2015, 07:49:04 AM
This has to be some kind of (gas war) attempt to bust the competition like oil shale, Keystone, etc. it won't last. The oil shale industry is taking record numbers of rigs out of service. Its comparable to what Walmart does when they come into  communities open super stores undercutting everyone with low price tiering and when the competition goes out of business start raising the price tier.

An interesting and plausible analysis.  Not much we can do about it except enjoy it while it lasts.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: gwwilk on January 19, 2015, 09:49:40 AM
Many oil-producing nations are bleeding badly right now while others dig into their cash reserves (http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanvardi/2015/01/05/saudi-arabias-750-billion-bet-drives-brent-oil-below-54/) to sustain their expensive wealth-sharing programs that keep them in power.  Fracking has an upside (http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/01/05/2014-the-year-fracking-broke-opecs-grip-on-your-wa.aspx).  While there will be fallout from OPEC's decision (http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-12-01/can-the-us-fracking-boom-survive-with-oil-65-per-barrel), much Western modern oil production will survive the onslaught.  Russia and Venezuela are probably hardest hit by the current price of crude oil.  Meanwhile the Saudi's are well-equipped for a prolonged price war.

Oil production has always been a cyclical 'boom or bust' industry, and it remains so.  As usual, those who plan ahead with significant cash reserves accumulated during the boom can survive the bust while those who are 'living from hand to mouth' wilt.  The stronger players in North America will gobble up the weaker ones at firesale prices leaving those investors in the weaker ventures with pennies on the dollar.  The global oil market speaks with a loud and clear voice, and those who attempt to manipulate it do so at their own and their collaborators' peril.

It's an economist's nightmare (delight?) trying to sort it all out with an eye to the future.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on January 19, 2015, 10:32:21 AM
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2015-01-14/the-unintended-consequences-of-cheap-oil  One of the things to expect is carbon tax.  Right?  I mean oil is low now so what better time than now to add a few cents a gallon.  Consumers won't really notice, will they??
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: gwwilk on January 19, 2015, 10:49:10 AM
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2015-01-14/the-unintended-consequences-of-cheap-oil  One of the things to expect is carbon tax.  Right?  I mean oil is low now so what better time than now to add a few cents a gallon.  Consumers won't really notice, will they??
A far less than 50/50 bet right now given the current composition of Congress...unless, of course, our king thinks an executive order will do the trick.  More likely would be states raising their gas taxes in order to try to restore our public roads infrastructure that has suffered from decreased revenue by virtue of CAFE, alternative fuel and hybrid vehicles, and altered driving habits due to much higher fuel prices.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on January 19, 2015, 10:57:42 AM
Death and taxes, man.  :)  http://dailysignal.com/2015/01/12/washington-politicians-want-hike-gas-tax/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on January 19, 2015, 11:02:54 AM
I agree Bushman,  prices get down to a reasonable price and government wants to tax and jack it up.
Great to have government on our side.

Build but fail to maintain for the future-raise taxes later.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 19, 2015, 11:27:41 AM
And once the tax gets added it’s forever 99% of the time. Even with a clause for removing in the future, it’s so rare to see a tax removed.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: gluepack on January 19, 2015, 11:50:04 AM
Count yourself lucky...
I filled up today for the equivalent of $4.28 per gallon in a country 70th in the world for GDP PPP (Gross Domestic Product at Purchasing Power Parity) per capita, compared to the US at 10th or 117th in cost of living compared to the US at 13th.
And... that is the lowest that it has been for at least the seven years that I have been here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 19, 2015, 12:26:02 PM
Count yourself lucky...
I filled up today for the equivalent of $4.28 per gallon in a country 70th in the world for GDP PPP (Gross Domestic Product at Purchasing Power Parity) per capita, compared to the US at 10th or 117th in cost of living compared to the US at 13th.
And... that is the lowest that it has been for at least the seven years that I have been here.

WOW! Yes I do consider myself lucky. On my fathers side my family migrated here from what was called Prussia and Bohemia, and actually started out in Massachusetts area.   
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on January 19, 2015, 12:36:09 PM
I haven't done the conversion but ours is C$0.859 /lr still quite a bit more than US side - but much lower than the C$1.359 in the summer.
 
Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 19, 2015, 12:51:24 PM
When I left MX in Sept it was over 12MXD per liter and at today's conversion, which is very weak, that would be over $3.10 per gallon and they are now raising it another 3% for this year. They've trapped themselves with the government owned company which is corrupt, of course, and their wells are declining in production and they don't have the talent or resources to develop deep water reserves. The days of living cheap in MX are long gone.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on January 19, 2015, 05:29:09 PM
Russia and Venezuela are probably hardest hit by the current price of crude oil.  Meanwhile the Saudi's are well-equipped for a prolonged price war.

Iran is suffering, too.
Quote

It's an economist's nightmare (delight?) trying to sort it all out with an eye to the future.

Of course you know, if they put all the economists end to end, they'd still never reach a conclusion.   :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on January 19, 2015, 08:09:46 PM
Yippee! Saw $1.99 today.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on February 07, 2015, 12:10:30 PM
Yippee! Saw $1.99 today.
And just like that 2 weeks later I'm seeing it as high as 2.25.
Is it going up everywhere else or just here?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on February 07, 2015, 12:14:10 PM
Yippee! Saw $1.99 today.
And just like that 2 weeks later I'm seeing it as high as 2.25.
Is it going up everywhere else or just here?

You're not alone.  It's went from $1.89 to $2.19 in three days here.

There are 11 refineries on strike right now, which might be bringing uncertainty to the markets.  Or, it might be that some investors are claiming that oil has bottomed out.  They'll not miss a chance of profits, though.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 07, 2015, 12:19:11 PM
I think we bottomed out, I filled up 2 weeks ago for $1.59 but we've moved back up to about $1.79.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on February 07, 2015, 01:13:46 PM
The low price has bottomed out at about $1.95 a gallon, but there are still stations that have never come down from $2.39.  I don't know how much gas they sell.  On the positive side, I got 200 gallons of heating oil this morning for $2.59 a gallon.  That's at least $1.20/gal less than last year.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on August 03, 2015, 08:56:37 PM
Getting back down there again.
2.45 and dropping.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ALITTLEweird1 on August 03, 2015, 09:27:55 PM
3.25 here
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on August 03, 2015, 09:43:48 PM
$2.69 here, dropped $0.15 just since Friday  8-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on August 04, 2015, 03:56:30 AM
Mine is at $2.29 with $2.32 is more common.

http://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html (http://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on August 04, 2015, 07:47:02 AM
Mine is at $2.29 with $2.32 is more common.

http://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html (http://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html)

I saw 2.33 in Tulsa for the most part yesterday but for the past week or so it's been averaging 1 to 2 pennies down a day.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on August 04, 2015, 01:06:44 PM
3.62 regular and 3.92 premium.  Have not checked to see what stove oil is going for.

John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on August 04, 2015, 03:01:41 PM
It was about $2.50 in Mass. last week.  I'm on vacation in Maine and it's about $2.60.  Strange because the fuel comes right into Bangor and it's usually cheaper up here.  The bass fishing has been great though!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 04, 2015, 04:12:58 PM
I was in town today and saw $2.31 at WalMart.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on August 04, 2015, 09:24:33 PM
Mine is at $2.29 with $2.32 is more common.

http://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html (http://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html)

I saw 2.33 in Tulsa for the most part yesterday but for the past week or so it's been averaging 1 to 2 pennies down a day.

It's now down to $2.28 all over Stillwater.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on August 13, 2015, 11:55:31 AM
If gas is higher where you're at, it's probably due to a refinery near Chicago having to shut down due to unexpected problems.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on August 13, 2015, 11:56:56 AM
If gas is higher where you're at, it's probably due to a refinery near Chicago having to shut down due to unexpected problems.

It went up here in Tulsa 31 cents in just 3 days...WTF?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on August 13, 2015, 12:02:26 PM
I was stupid yesterday and didn't consult my gas price page when I went to fill up.  A station or two in Stillwater hadn't yet raised prices.  So I paid $2.39.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on August 13, 2015, 12:11:51 PM
Prices have dropped twice while I have been on vacation in Maine.  Started at about $2.61, now down to $2.49.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on August 13, 2015, 12:25:11 PM
$2.54 in central West Virginia yesterday. It was $2.89 three weeks ago so I will take it!  :eek:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 13, 2015, 12:26:37 PM
Prices also dropped here recently..... now at 5.40 USD/gal  :grin:

I think it is quite obvious why the proportion of people with a car and also how often they use it here in Europe is slightly different to the US. Especially in countries like the Czech Republic, where the average wage is also much less to what it is in the US.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on August 13, 2015, 12:29:03 PM
If gas is higher where you're at, it's probably due to a refinery near Chicago having to shut down due to unexpected problems.

40 cent jump in MPLS too.

This was an article on ChiefsPlanet about it

Quote
Get ready Midwest

Great Lakes Gas Prices Expected to Rise on Unplanned Refining Issue
Read more at https://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Grea...R753kFvj3D8.99

As if refining sector health was a big game of roulette, it appears the ball has landed on the Great Lakes area. It was reported that on Saturday, the BP refinery in Whiting, Indiana had to shut a 240,000 barrel per day crude distillation unit (CDU) down for unplanned and unexpected repairs. The refinery’s capacity is listed at 430,000 barrels per day. The refinery outage, now running at 44% of capacity, is bad news for motorists in the area. The unplanned outage will surely halt the falling gas price celebration that Illinois and Indiana have enjoyed since early July. Prices are likely to spike in Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, and increases could possibly spill over into Kentucky and Missouri during the next week.

The BP Whiting refinery is located 20 miles southeast of downtown Chicago. The unit in question had been part of BP’s refinery expansion project, opening July 1, 2013. The new unit helped allow BP to take advantage of the new Canadian oil arriving into the market. It marked the largest private sector investment in Indiana history with the expansion price-tag clocking in at the multi-billion dollar level, according to a press release from BP.

It had been a rough week for the BP Whiting refinery already. Earlier last week the alkylation unit was reported to being having issues, per a report from OPIS. The alkylation refining unit is responsible for boosting octane in gasoline. With refiners not out of the woods yet for summer gasoline season, the impact to the gasoline market is expected to be particularly tough.

BP Whiting doesn’t have the only reported issue. Phillips 66 Wood River near the St Louis area was also rumored to have ongoing maintenance. A Marathon refinery in Robinson, IL had planned maintenance this week on a hydrocracker, reformer, and potentially a CDU. If Marathon has no ability to push this maintenance back, it could further strain gasoline prices as the market waits a reported 7-10 days for the BP Whiting CDU to return.

Wholesale gasoline prices are spiking again today in the region. As retail gasoline prices were expected to fall through year-end, this latest refinery issue is sure to negatively impact local prices and temporarily delay the decline in gasoline prices.

Read more at https://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Grea...R753kFvj3D8.99

Can't believe it jumped in oklahoma.  We just need more refineries.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on August 13, 2015, 12:47:03 PM
Prices also dropped here recently..... now at 5.40 USD/gal  :grin:

I think it is quite obvious why the proportion of people with a car and also how often they use it here in Europe is slightly different to the US. Especially in countries like the Czech Republic, where the average wage is also much less to what it is in the US.

 :shock:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 13, 2015, 01:22:29 PM
Thats normal... welcome to Europe :D

This is also why the range of cars used here most commonly is in general much different - I mean no-one here has a pickup and only recently people started buying SUVs too, but even those are much smaller.

The majority of cars here are mid-size sedans and hatchbacks and fuel consumption is for most the second most important factor when buying a new car (after price...).

European manufacturers such as Audi, BMW, Mercedes, VW, plus of course the Japanese and Koreans, put lot of emphasis on fuel consumption and even the most luxurious MB, the S-class, is now offered as a hybrid and with highly efficient engines.

I would say that today´s standard is a fuel consumption of about 40 mpg - not to mention the fact that in the last 2-3 years also the CO2 emissions are a big deal and manufacturers often use it for marketing, advertising yet lower CO2.

The European Union has also placed relatively strict restrictions, some of which are already in effect, others will become in the upcoming yrs and those manufacturers that for example will have higher average CO2 across their model range will have to "buy the emissions" and likewise, those that will be below, will get some bonuses - basically a market with emissions.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/industry/9744566/Europes-most-popular-cars.html?frame=2421308
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on August 13, 2015, 05:12:58 PM
Prices went up 15-20 cents per liter in Western Canada in the last week.  And we have lots of refining capacity here.  Can you say "windfall profits"?  Good thing I hold lots of downstream oil stock.  :)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 13, 2015, 05:42:45 PM
Too bad this thing costs so much and isnt even sold in my country... because otherwise I just love it - I love the design, the interior, the technology and as an environmentally thinking person... not to mention free recharging in stations all over Europe...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_S

I have only seen it once in my life here in Brno, there is a few in the Czech Republic, but you have to go to Germany or Austria to buy it and then import it and as I said, it is quite expensive compared to other cars.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Skyview on August 13, 2015, 06:09:26 PM
Too bad this thing costs so much and isnt even sold in my country... because otherwise I just love it - I love the design, the interior, the technology and as an environmentally thinking person... not to mention free recharging in stations all over Europe...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_S

I have only seen it once in my life here in Brno, there is a few in the Czech Republic, but you have to go to Germany or Austria to buy it and then import it and as I said, it is quite expensive compared to other cars.

They are all over around here now. Been following it since before they went on sale several years back. I too would buy one if they weren't so expensive.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 13, 2015, 06:20:41 PM
Im sure electric cars are the future - at least near future, I know that for example using hydrogen is even more perspective, but one must be realistic, there is no way this technology is going to replace gas any time soon and we need to act soon!

The only problem with electric cars however is that they will only start to make sense, once the electricity comes from renewable sources. Right now, most of it is from coal power plants and similar so in effect it makes no difference - the CO2 and other gases are not released from your car, but from a powerplant somewhere else...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on August 13, 2015, 06:31:50 PM
Electric cars are for the city. One guy drove one from the states to Alaska took him longer t hen it did in Jornal car as the are no quick charge stations. Be interesting to see how well they do at 40 to 60 below. Can you say cold weather drain on battery plus lack of an high output heater.

John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on August 13, 2015, 06:33:12 PM
Bought it Monday at the Montgomery, Alabama Cosco for $2.11.  Local here (50 miles south of Montgomery in a rural town) is $2.30 :-x . Fifteen miles to the east or west of us and it can be had for around $2.15.

Ed
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CSB on August 13, 2015, 06:51:20 PM
Here in Wisconsin it went from $2.59 this AM to $3.19 this PM. Ouch!!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 13, 2015, 07:01:13 PM
Electric cars are for the city. One guy drove one from the states to Alaska took him longer t hen it did in Jornal car as the are no quick charge stations. Be interesting to see how well they do at 40 to 60 below. Can you say cold weather drain on battery plus lack of an high output heater.

John

I disagree, the above mentioned Tesla has a radius of almost 500 km and the supercharge system, which has a network of rechargin stations all around Europe can fully recharge it in 30 mins - so you stop at a gas station, have a coffee and you can continue another 500 km... And in the city you just use your own plug at home, which takes longer, but you just leave it over night.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 13, 2015, 07:03:49 PM
And I mean come on... dont tell me you wouldnt want a car with 2.8 s from 0 to 100 :D It must feel really odd sitting in that car with such an acceleration - first of all there is zero delay and second, the engine is absolutely quiet....

http://www.bbc.com/autos/story/20150720-teslas-28-second-model-s-the-p85d-ludicrous
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on August 13, 2015, 09:50:53 PM
Why would I want an car like that when I can travel at 120 knots an go places where it can't. Also my old F 150 gets me to town when it needs to.Jac it going to many years before fast charges are found here and northern Canada. In fact after tourist season over lot of station just close up and makes it long drive down the Alcan to the next station.So before you disagree you should Lear a bit about another person area.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on August 14, 2015, 05:42:12 AM
I disagree, the above mentioned Tesla has a radius of almost 500 km and the supercharge system, which has a network of rechargin stations all around Europe can fully recharge it in 30 mins - so you stop at a gas station, have a coffee and you can continue another 500 km...

I would double-check your math...or your coffee cup size.  Most EV's (Tesla included) can only fast-charge to about 80% battery life.  Per Tesla's published specs, 30 minutes of fast-charging will get you 170 miles (273 km) in range.  There's 5 Tesla Supercharger at an upscale bar/restaurant about 5 miles away from where I live, and they do a lot of business off of those units.  (Having a bar where you charge a car scares me a little, though.)

Tesla has some more reasonably-priced car models in their product roadmap, and that is the only thing stopping me from buying a VW e-Golf today.  My employer has been looking for someone to get an EV so that they can install a free charging station, and it is tempting to buy one for commuting when someone else is paying for the energy.  Oh, and most of our local electrical grid power comes from Niagara Falls hydropower, so it's clean energy to boot.....  \:D/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Skyview on August 14, 2015, 06:00:09 AM
It will be interesting to see what the Model 3 looks like in a few months. I have serious doubts as to it actually making it to consumers for the $35K USD range though. I hope my concerns prove to be wrong.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 14, 2015, 06:13:58 AM
Quote
Also my old F 150 gets me to town when it needs to.

Thats for sure, but no-one here is going to buy such a car... I have never in my life seen any F150 here! It is just way too big, expensive and the fuel consumption....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 14, 2015, 09:11:53 AM
I filled up yesterday for $2.21 a gallon. Yesterday was a very special day for me, I finally got my '96 Mark VIII out of storage where it's been for 8 years. I had a flatbed bring it out to the house and slip it into the garage, I love that car and even though it's a 32 valve, double overhead cam it gets reasonable mileage.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 14, 2015, 09:20:15 AM
Interesting to see how different cars, prices etc. are in the US...

just if interested:

My car:
none  :grin:

My mom´s car (which I use when she needs me to drive her to a shop etc., since despite her having a license, she doesn´t drive because she is scared) :D
Opel Corsa III (yr.2001)
http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/models/OPEL_Corsa-5-doors-2000_main.jpg (http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/models/OPEL_Corsa-5-doors-2000_main.jpg)
1.0 L engine :D

My dream car right now:
Tesla S 85D, probably in white
alternatively some Audi, or I quite like the new Skoda Superb - a Czech manufacturer not sold in the US, but the most popular cars in the Czech Republic (50% market share...)
http://www.skoda-auto.com/en/models/new-superb/overview/ (http://www.skoda-auto.com/en/models/new-superb/overview/)

Most interesting car Ive ever sat in:
Bugatti Veyron, 1001 kW, top speed 408.84 km/h (254.04 mph)  :grin:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on August 14, 2015, 10:24:29 AM
You've seriously sat in a Veyron?  =P~ =P~ =P~
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 14, 2015, 10:52:44 AM
You've seriously sat in a Veyron?  =P~ =P~ =P~

 8-)

I was planning on buying one, but in the end I was short of a few pennies so I didnt
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on August 14, 2015, 11:14:09 AM
Electric cars are for the city. One guy drove one from the states to Alaska took him longer t hen it did in Jornal car as the are no quick charge stations. Be interesting to see how well they do at 40 to 60 below. Can you say cold weather drain on battery plus lack of an high output heater.

John

Tesla is building a whole series of charge stations all across western Canada.  Frankly, if I could affordit I'd get a Tesla X
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on August 14, 2015, 11:31:12 AM
You've seriously sat in a Veyron?  =P~ =P~ =P~

 8-)

I was planning on buying one, but in the end I was short of a few pennies so I didnt
LOL!  Maybe some day you will.  But I'd buy a different car.  A good friend just bought the Ferrari Italia 458.... wowser
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on August 14, 2015, 11:58:25 AM
Well, I have to say, that is pretty awesome. Probably the neatest car I've ever sat in is a brand new Stingray Corvette, or a new Challenger. NEVER anything as cool as that!

You've seriously sat in a Veyron?  =P~ =P~ =P~

 8-)

I was planning on buying one, but in the end I was short of a few pennies so I didnt
LOL!  Maybe some day you will.  But I'd buy a different car.  A good friend just bought the Ferrari Italia 458.... wowser

VERY cool! My favorite car of all time is probably the Ferrari 590 GTO, or its ancestor, the Ferrari 550 Maranello  8-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 14, 2015, 12:22:10 PM
Farmtalk:

to be quite honest, I probably wouldnt even want one... I mean I was never into sports cars, I love cars, my second biggest hobby after weather, but... I was always interested in "normal" cars, luxurious and efficient, I always tried to care for the environment too.

Im not saying I wouldnt want to drive a Ferrari or Bugatti or Zonda... but maybe once on a circuit, but I wouldnt want to own one (btw. do you know how much the damage waiver is annualy? :D)...

So if I was totally unlimited with regards to finances, I would really rather buy Skoda Superb III or Tesla S85D or maybe Audi S8.

Quote
When an electric car runs out of power, what kind of *milk-jug* you gonna use to hold those kWHr's as you walk back to the stranded car?
(http://www.winchsystems.co.uk/graphics/plumett-utility-industry-equipment/plumett-ct200-trailer.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 14, 2015, 02:16:29 PM
Doubt they'll be big sellers in TX, much too big a place, we drive 100 miles without thinking about it. You can bet some will be in Austin, a Liberal College city.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on August 14, 2015, 02:40:57 PM
Ok Bushman on the rapid charge units. How many you thin they will put in between Dawson Creek and Whitehorse. It was bad enough getting premium gas for the MB. I always get around that problem carrying fuel octane booster.  From Whitehorse to Boundary it would take 2 charges so you would need one at D-day where they like lot of little villages are still using diesel.

Jac we live different life style here then what you do in Europe. The old ford hauls everything from groceries to lumber to heating wood. It packs my dredge from the cabin out to several mining sites. Hauls diesel  and a gas for the tractor and plane. Like in Texas we have long hauls they have signs here to remind you no stations for next 170 to 250 miles. You better hope you have good soares to boot going up the Haul road.

John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 14, 2015, 02:51:19 PM
Ok Bushman on the rapid charge units. How many you thin they will put in between Dawson Creek and Whitehorse. It was bad enough getting premium gas for the MB. I always get around that problem carrying fuel octane booster.  From Whitehorse to Boundary it would take 2 charges so you would need one at D-day where they like lot of little villages are still using diesel.

Jac we live different life style here then what you do in Europe. The old ford hauls everything from groceries to lumber to heating wood. It packs my dredge from the cabin out to several mining sites. Hauls diesel  and a gas for the tractor and plane. Like in Texas we have long hauls they have signs here to remind you no stations for next 170 to 250 miles. You better hope you have good soares to boot going up the Haul road.

John

I completely understand that, but that is why I think here in Europe, the electric cars will quickly spread.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Skyview on August 14, 2015, 03:06:45 PM
VERY cool! My favorite car of all time is probably the Ferrari 590 GTO, or its ancestor, the Ferrari 550 Maranello  8-)

OK, since you guys are bringing up all these cars, I have to admit I'm a car guy! Embarrassing but it's just me and my Wife (no kids) and we have 4 vehicles (not counting the VTX1300C), and only one is hers. 

The GTO mine too...I think my current is the F12 however. That V12 sounds better than anything I can think of. I still get chills when I watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5ML9ET7GJ0

That being said I share the desire for the P85D. Doubt I will ever own one but you never know. I've definitely got a better chance at that than the F12 that's for sure.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 14, 2015, 03:39:31 PM
It was fun when I lived in Stuttgart.... for those of you who dont know, that is where MB is manufactured, Porsche, BMW is 200km away in Munich, Audi 100km away in Ingolstadt etc... and of course the German highways  8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

My dad had a company car, an Audi A6, when we drove 220 kmh (140 mph) we had to drive in the right lane otherwise we would be slowing others down LOL - not joking
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Skyview on August 14, 2015, 03:42:08 PM
Sometimes I think it would be really cool to take my car over there and embarrass the German cars on the Autobahn  :twisted:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 14, 2015, 04:01:38 PM
It was funny. As I said I dont have a car and when I drove with my mom´s car, it is an Opel Corsa with 1.0 engine... and it sometimes happened that I was standing at a traffic light. Then the green went on and I accelerated with my foot on the floor and the cars behind me (usually one of those Mercedeses or BMWs) signed with their headlights at me why am I not driving :D
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on August 14, 2015, 06:06:33 PM
Wow, gas went up 34 cents today  :shock:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on August 14, 2015, 06:40:09 PM
LOL... which means it is now about half of what it is here :D

Multiply that by 4 to get the approximate number per gallon :D

http://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/Europe/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on August 15, 2015, 01:17:04 AM
Well, I have to say, that is pretty awesome. Probably the neatest car I've ever sat in is a brand new Stingray Corvette, or a new Challenger. NEVER anything as cool as that!

I bought and drove a brand new 1991 red Corvette off the showroom floor.  The thing I remember is $681.05/month.  And the State Farm agent was really glad to see me (with his hand out to collect the increased premium).
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on August 15, 2015, 01:19:20 AM
It was fun when I lived in Stuttgart.... for those of you who dont know, that is where MB is manufactured, Porsche, BMW is 200km away in Munich, Audi 100km away in Ingolstadt etc... and of course the German highways  8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

Europe has such an advanced and efficient public transportation system that I don't see the need for electric cars there.  But if gas prices are still high, they might be cheaper in the long term.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on August 15, 2015, 01:22:42 AM
Here in Wisconsin it went from $2.59 this AM to $3.19 this PM. Ouch!!

Gas is around $2.14/gal here in TN for regular.  There's a refinery in IN that went down for unexpected maintenance this past week, so gas prices in the midwest have jumped up as suppliers look for other sources.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on August 15, 2015, 01:28:35 AM
My dream car right now:
Tesla S 85D, probably in white
alternatively some Audi, or I quite like the new Skoda Superb - a Czech manufacturer not sold in the US, but the most popular cars in the Czech Republic (50% market share...)
http://www.skoda-auto.com/en/models/new-superb/overview/ (http://www.skoda-auto.com/en/models/new-superb/overview/)

When I hit the lottery, this Plymouth Superbird will be in my garage:

(http://carsorder.com/images/plymouth-superbird-965.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on August 15, 2015, 09:02:45 AM
Gas here was $2.59 3 days ago, but now propane is what's really low if you do a summer fill its only .95 a gallon. I only used 340 gallons since last September, not bad for northern Nebraska.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on August 15, 2015, 09:33:57 AM
Well, I have to say, that is pretty awesome. Probably the neatest car I've ever sat in is a brand new Stingray Corvette, or a new Challenger. NEVER anything as cool as that!

I bought and drove a brand new 1991 red Corvette off the showroom floor.  The thing I remember is $681.05/month.  And the State Farm agent was really glad to see me (with his hand out to collect the increased premium).

Yikes! That's quite a payment! Do you still have it? And that Superbird is absolutely beautiful. I've got a thing for classic cars too. I usually go to just about every show around here.  :-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: hankster on August 15, 2015, 09:40:37 AM
$2.29 in SW Florida, dropped about $0.10 the past week. Looks like the MidWest problems haven't filtered down here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on August 15, 2015, 10:31:36 AM
Sadly, the Autobahn has been speed restricted for much of its length now.  When I worked in Germany in the late 80's I recall doing 240 near Mannheim and get flashed by car headlights since I was going too slow!

And electric cars will not make a dent in the Alaska F150 sales any time soon, but for people in Houston they'd be great.  You could double the throughput of Beltway 8 by trading half the SOV 150s for something reasonably sized.  AS for charging stations, in addition to Tesla's free ones, there are literally hundreds of them in BC at http://www.caa.ca/evstations/ even in places like Chetwynd and Kitimat!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on August 15, 2015, 12:55:01 PM

When I hit the lottery, this Plymouth Superbird will be in my garage:

(http://carsorder.com/images/plymouth-superbird-965.jpg)
<GRIN>  Come see me on it when you win!!!! ;)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on August 15, 2015, 12:56:37 PM
Gas here was $2.59 3 days ago, but now propane is what's really low if you do a summer fill its only .95 a gallon. I only used 340 gallons since last September, not bad for northern Nebraska.

 :shock:  You could add a buck and a half to that price down here....for pre-buy!!!!!!  :sad:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on August 15, 2015, 01:31:19 PM
Gas here was $2.59 3 days ago, but now propane is what's really low if you do a summer fill its only .95 a gallon. I only used 340 gallons since last September, not bad for northern Nebraska.

 :shock:  You could add a buck and a half to that price down here....for pre-buy!!!!!!  :sad:

Arizona was much higher also. I was shocked  :shock: and pleased  :-) with the price here. I filled at 1.89 gallon last year so jumped all over the .95 summer buy. Unfortunately other things are more expensive here just not propane.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 08, 2015, 04:50:00 PM
$1.87 today in Marble Falls, TX
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on September 08, 2015, 05:36:45 PM
$2.15 in north central florida
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on September 08, 2015, 05:54:11 PM
We're pretty low here for us in southern Ontario at the moment but still 92.9 cents per litre ($4.64 per USgal in U$ at current exchange rate)

Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: W3DRM on September 08, 2015, 08:35:13 PM
A gallon of gas here in northern Nevada is currently running between $2.55 at COSTCO to $2.93 at a local Chevron station less than a mile apart. COSTCO has the best prices in this area. ARCO's in the area run about 3 to 5 cents higher than COSTCO.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on September 08, 2015, 11:58:47 PM
Don, we filled up at the COSTCO in Montgomery, AL, for $1.97 the other day.  Interestingly, there were several other places that were at $1.97.  Usually COSTCO is several cents cheaper than any other place...but not that day.  :???:

Ed
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on September 09, 2015, 05:44:18 AM
A gallon of gas here in northern Nevada is currently running between $2.55 at COSTCO to $2.93 at a local Chevron station less than a mile apart. COSTCO has the best prices in this area. ARCO's in the area run about 3 to 5 cents higher than COSTCO.
Arco? They are still around?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: W3DRM on September 09, 2015, 11:36:02 AM
A gallon of gas here in northern Nevada is currently running between $2.55 at COSTCO to $2.93 at a local Chevron station less than a mile apart. COSTCO has the best prices in this area. ARCO's in the area run about 3 to 5 cents higher than COSTCO.
Arco? They are still around?


Well, they are here in northern Nevada and are associated the AM/PM stores that also sell gas. I don't know about the rest of the country.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 09, 2015, 01:07:39 PM
ARCO is only in the western US, I've not seen one in TX or the midwest for many years.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on September 09, 2015, 03:46:02 PM
Yikes! That's quite a payment! Do you still have it? And that Superbird is absolutely beautiful. I've got a thing for classic cars too. I usually go to just about every show around here.  :-)

No, got rid of it long ago.  I'm to stiff and creaky to get in and out of one now.   #-o
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on September 09, 2015, 03:47:45 PM
<GRIN>  Come see me on it when you win!!!! ;)

I will!   8-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on September 09, 2015, 03:49:03 PM
Prices are hovering around $1.83 here.  With a discount card, I paid $1.69 Monday.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: btcompute on September 09, 2015, 04:01:44 PM
My wife and I have both bought gas locally (central NH) for $2.01 in the last few days.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on September 09, 2015, 04:26:04 PM
Still about $2.25 in N Central MA
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: W3DRM on September 09, 2015, 10:44:59 PM
I heard today that Gov. Brown (California...) is proposing to raise the gas tax by $0.06/gal on gas and $0.11/gal on diesel fuel.

Just what the folks need is yet another tax on their heads - BOY, am I glad I left California...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Silversword on September 11, 2015, 02:40:53 AM
Hi All,

Talked to my son who lives in OC and prices seem to be the highest in the country for now.  Reason taxes and the type of cars are being driven, eg. hybrids, electric, etc.

Over here street prices are averaging at $3.369 but a whole sale place that I go to was at $2.769 today.  Costco is at $2.699 at present.

A friend of ours that live in Central Illinois showed us a price at $1.999.  Too bad we are not there now.

Regards,

--Stan Y.
   Maui, Hawaii
 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Josiah on September 11, 2015, 12:02:08 PM
There a gas station just outside of Danville, VA that I get my gas from. Prices there are hovering around $1.87 - $1.97 a Gal.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Skyview on September 11, 2015, 02:46:29 PM
There a gas station just outside of Danville, VA that I get my gas from. Prices there are hovering around $1.87 - $1.97 a Gal.

I miss VA gas prices. Taxes down here make it worse.

http://www.raleighgasprices.com/

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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: hankster on September 11, 2015, 03:13:16 PM
Down to $2.06 here in Fort Myers FL
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 11, 2015, 07:30:51 PM
Felt good the other day to fill up for $29 @ $1.87 and not $50 as in the recent past, or MX which is considerably higher and not coming down because it's Gov owned and regulated. Although again I count my good fortune at the expense of some others in the oil industry.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on September 11, 2015, 07:55:55 PM
Leveled off at 2.15 around here but the wife filled up at a Racetrack with E85 for 1.69.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ALITTLEweird1 on September 12, 2015, 12:11:29 PM
Still over $3 here in WA in most places thanks to our highest gas tax in the country.

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With state gas taxes now up to 44.5 cents a gallon, adding in the current federal gas tax of 18.4 cents, the total per gallon gas tax in Washington is now 62.9 cents.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: cospringswx on September 12, 2015, 01:17:51 PM
Around 2.45 here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on September 12, 2015, 03:24:33 PM
$2.29 here at Arco (this station is always low). It dropped $.10 overnight one day last week. Interesting that the "big boys" (Shell, etc.) are still $.10 and more higher than this guy, and there's one right across the street from him. Completely idiotic industry.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ggsteve on September 13, 2015, 06:50:55 AM
It dropped $.10 overnight one day last week.  Completely idiotic industry.

Last winter we filled up before heading to a Patriots game.  On the way home the price had dropped $.08 during the game!  The only industry with crazier pricing swings and differences is the Airlines.  My wife needed to fly on a moments notice a few months ago.  Coach ticket was $800+.  Just for grins she looked at first class.  $500 on the same flight.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on September 13, 2015, 11:07:14 AM
Just filled up my mom´s car today for 5.02 :D
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: weatherc on September 13, 2015, 11:29:08 AM
6.60 USD per gallon here..... (1.50€/l) :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on September 13, 2015, 11:41:39 AM
Yes I know.... Scandinavia is the second most expensive after GB usually.... but then take into account the average wage here :D
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: weatherc on September 13, 2015, 04:55:58 PM
Yes I know.... Scandinavia is the second most expensive after GB usually.... but then take into account the average wage here :D

Based on this (http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/index.php?sort=4) are the most expensive European countries: Netherlands, Norway, UK, Denmark and Italy.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on September 13, 2015, 05:30:57 PM
Yes, but it changes, in general, the most expensive tends to be the UK
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on September 13, 2015, 06:13:33 PM
Was in Richmond, Virginia for the weekend. Lowest I saw was $1.92.. $2.12 in WV.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 13, 2015, 06:58:34 PM
A few years ago while living in MX I looked at Belize, I thought that might be a good idea and fun and not too far from "home" and I found they use the US dollar as currency which seemed a good thing, but then I discovered gas was $10 a gallon? My love affair with Belize came to a screeching halt. Also, I was looking at the N border near a sizable MXN city with all the shopping, but to go across and back you ended up paying about $40 in Customs fees + the gas, so it goes in places other than TX. I had my adventure and it was great and I wouldn't trade it, but my plan for returning to MX next Spring are pretty much written off and Belize? - they definitely make it obvious they only want rich folks (I don't even know any?)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on September 14, 2015, 05:53:39 AM
...and Belize? - they definitely make it obvious they only want rich folks (I don't even know any?)

I never had that feeling when I spent a day as a tourist there about 8 years ago.  Our guide pointed out the Taiwan complex and other places where foreign interests were essentially setting up their own clustered colonies.  They seemed to be more of a melting pot than the USA, although the people were staying segregated into their own "neighborhoods".  After riding a bus for essentially the entire length of the Western Highway (stopped one mile short of the Guatemala border), I can say that I wouldn't want to take any long trips by car there because highway travel is brutally slow there by American standards.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 14, 2015, 02:13:29 PM
I want to recall that my 5 year old like new Jeep didn't qualify to be imported, they wanted me to bring a new car, or preferably buy one down there - and burn $10 gas for starters, then there was the $40 to cross the border to shop and some other things, so I wrote off the option.

I saw $1.81 a gallon today in Marble Falls.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on September 14, 2015, 02:44:12 PM
Arco down another $.10 today to $2.19. Across the street Shell still playing the oil game now at $2.33.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on September 15, 2015, 01:22:35 AM
Tulsa down to $1.91; I'm pretty sure OKC is lower than that but Tulsa is still using their summer blend gasoline, which is the only mixture of its type in the country.  Makes it more expensive.  Usually by about 5 percent or so.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on September 15, 2015, 01:30:24 AM
Arco down another $.10 today to $2.19. Across the street Shell still playing the oil game now at $2.33.

How is QuikTrip in Phoenix?  I know in Tulsa they usually are the 'price setters' for the rest of the stations.  Likely because QT's corporate office is here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on September 15, 2015, 01:57:22 AM
I have 3 QTs pretty close to me, but they're not playing nice with each other. $2.41, $2.21, and $2.18 at this writing.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on September 15, 2015, 03:53:17 PM
I have 3 QTs pretty close to me, but they're not playing nice with each other. $2.41, $2.21, and $2.18 at this writing.

Interesting..what happens here is that the ones closer to the major highway exits are about 2 cents cheaper than those that are not.  For example, today, one just off Hwy 169 (a major north/south commuter freeway here) is $1.87.  Another one about two miles from any highway exit is $1.89.  Never more variance that that.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on September 15, 2015, 04:06:34 PM
They're all within 3 miles or so of each other, but none are really 'on top' of a freeway exit.

Typical...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on September 15, 2015, 04:31:14 PM
3.36 an gal regular here in our area. Up on the slope villages are paying 7 to 11 bucks an gal. Expensive flying fuel in.  One politician here asking for investigation into why our prices are higher and very little drop in price. I see the same cover up as last time. It because lack of refinery here. Yet one company trucking fuel from Haines and selling it in Fairbanks cheaper then what one can buy it for in Ketchikan. Yep it brought in by the same barge line.


John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on September 15, 2015, 10:28:58 PM
09/14/2015 - $1.89 in Montgomery, Alabama @ Costco
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on September 16, 2015, 12:03:33 AM
Pretty good. Costco here is $2.17.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on September 16, 2015, 12:28:49 PM
Cheapest in Stillwater is $1.91 at Kum & Go and Murphy's by Perkins Rd. Walmart.  Highest $1.94.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on October 04, 2015, 07:40:38 PM
The price of full service gas in Stillwater back in 1966.

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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on October 04, 2015, 08:50:23 PM
The cheapest I ever remember seeing it was 18 cents  in Arkansas. We were taking a trip from Ohio to Texas at the time. I think it was the mid to late 60's.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on October 23, 2015, 08:04:31 AM
Here 50 miles south of Montgomery, Alabama, it had bounced back up to around $2.05....then a couple of days ago it fell to $1.95.  Go figure...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on October 24, 2015, 12:31:51 AM
1.79 an liter in the Yukon Terrority

John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on October 24, 2015, 10:04:18 AM
It's been hanging around $1.95 for the past month here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: W3DRM on October 24, 2015, 01:29:00 PM
Well, the west coast always seems to rank the highest for gas prices. My wife filled up yesterday at COSTCO and regular was $2.19. It had been $2.29 last week so prices have dropped. California is still much higher than northern Nevada.

The lowest gas prices I can remember was in the 50's when, in Arlington, VA, during a gas-price war we were paying $0.119 for a gallon of regular. Never seen it any lower.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 25, 2015, 11:14:56 AM
We're hanging just below $2, I filled up Friday for $1.87.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Mark / Ohio on November 05, 2015, 08:25:40 PM
Lowest I've seen here was $2.19 last week but it did not stay for long.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on December 07, 2015, 08:59:00 AM
I bought some about a week ago for $1.72 in Montgomery, Alabama...$1.76 about 50 miles south of there.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: txweather.org on December 07, 2015, 02:08:16 PM
I am glad you are all enjoying this awesome gas prices.
Texas is suffering a major down hall on work and a bunch of layoffs are just poring down out of the price of the barrel...

I been affected because of this price game... :(
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on December 07, 2015, 02:46:15 PM
I am glad you are all enjoying this awesome gas prices.
Texas is suffering a major down hall on work and a bunch of layoffs are just poring down out of the price of the barrel...

I been affected because of this price game... :(

It is going to get MUCH WORSE in the oil patch.  Much worse.  Calgary (Houston north) is getting slammed even worse.  50-80% layoffs in some companies.  Wait till the banks call loans.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on December 07, 2015, 03:49:03 PM
Lowest for me is right up the street at QuikTrip -- $1.649.  The news is saying it could go downwards of around $1 per gallon before it's all said and done.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: mkutche on December 07, 2015, 05:12:57 PM
Gas prices vary from 1.80 to 1.82 here in Owen County Indiana .. I have always been told low gas prices means we might be going to war then again it could be wrong but I love low gas prices none the less :D
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on December 07, 2015, 05:20:54 PM
Here we currently have approximately 5.76/gallon.... no wonder not many people drive in pickups here :D
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on December 07, 2015, 05:34:41 PM
Here we currently have approximately 5.76/gallon.... no wonder not many people drive in pickups here :D

And yet somehow they survive.  :)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on December 07, 2015, 06:31:24 PM
Here we currently have approximately 5.76/gallon.... no wonder not many people drive in pickups here :D

And yet somehow they survive.  :)

Yes :D They buy the super environment friendly VW diesels :D :D :D
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on December 07, 2015, 06:54:16 PM
One thing surprised me though. Obviously, VW is much more popular here in Europe and Germany is the market No.1 for VW. And since I lived in Germany for many years I know quite well that Germans are actually very punctual and pay attention to details and VW obviously completely lost customers' trust and so one would expect they will try to do everything to regain it back, yet....
The legal system in the US is different and they offered people in the US who own one of the cars concerned compensation (I cant remember how much it was exactly, but it was relatively reasonable amount of money and bonuses). Here in Europe they know that if someone sued them, VW would win. But you would still expect since this is their major market and since they already offer compensations in the US, they would do the same thing here to keep it fair... well no.... here in Europe customers will get exactly nothing... and this made them look even worse in people's eyes and they completely lost trust and brand image.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on December 07, 2015, 07:25:35 PM
Sounds like recent "echos" of "...too BIG to fail..." ? ? ?

spot on...

because the governments would never allow this... the amount of money this company generates and the number of work places they offer... here in Czech we also have a car manufacturer - it is called Skoda, I guess you don't know it in US, because it is not sold there, but it also belongs under VW (as well as Audi, Porsche, Lamborghini, Seat, Bugatti, Bentley...) and it is the biggest and most profitable company in the Czech Republic. Skodas are sold all over Europe and are now becoming more and more popular even in China and India. In the UK for example it has placed as number 1 most popular car manufacturer for several years in a row now... And if all these companies went bankrupt it would be a disaster for the EU economy.

Btw. this is the newest model (Skoda Superb 2015) if interested :D Skodas form about 60% of all cars in the Czech Republic, yes we are patriotic :D

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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on December 07, 2015, 07:52:03 PM
We hit $1.99 here and that's as low as it goes.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on December 07, 2015, 11:48:54 PM
I am glad you are all enjoying this awesome gas prices.
Texas is suffering a major down hall on work and a bunch of layoffs are just poring down out of the price of the barrel...

I been affected because of this price game... :(
Yep, it's hitting a lot of families.  My son-in-law got his letter a few weeks back...unless his company gets a contract from *somewhere* he will be home bound indefinitely.  I like him to have a good paycheck...he's the father of my three granddaughters aged 4 months to 9 years old. 

People don't realize that the Arabs are intentionally killing the American oil industry.  There are actually less affluent Arab countries that want the wealthy countries to cut back on production rather than to continue flooding the market with this cheap oil.  Once the American companies are out of the picture I wonder what the Arabs will do with the price.  And, the companies that fold and the banks own...why the rich Chinese/Russians/Saudis/etc will waltz in and buy those companies up for a nickle on the dollar and the USA will be left holding an empty bag but more debt.  Cheap gas is nice, but I wonder what the real cost is going to be...???  :?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 08, 2015, 09:05:37 AM
$1.69 here and TX crude was at $37 a barrel the other day which means generally the industry is shut down. Below $45 it's not worth it and they're only pumping to fill contracts through end of year. It's serious and looks like it will get worse. Of course the low gas prices help most other segments of the economy, but that's little consolation to folks in the oil industry.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: txweather.org on December 08, 2015, 10:28:17 AM
@Inteswamp,

Well said. I hope your son-in-law finds an up hill and I am sure he will.

@stevebrtx,

Every time I hear the Oil Barrel prices I want to cry.
I hope we come back soon (I know we are not but we all can hope)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on December 08, 2015, 10:50:36 AM
$1.69 here and TX crude was at $37 a barrel the other day which means generally the industry is shut down. Below $45 it's not worth it and they're only pumping to fill contracts through end of year. It's serious and looks like it will get worse. Of course the low gas prices help most other segments of the economy, but that's little consolation to folks in the oil industry.
Define "oil industry" - it is more than just drillers etc.  Think welders, food service workers, pilots, manufacturers of all sorts of things; roughly 1/3 of Canada\s GDP is "oil industry".  For anyone interested in numbers, that is about 1/6 of a TRILLION dollars.  I would expect the US "oil industry" to  trend similarly.  Of course as long as we all want cheap oil from terrorists and dictatorships...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on December 08, 2015, 05:02:45 PM
Alaska oil industry just about  shut down and  the state government  has been cutting way back. Between  environmental people and  low  demand  all the  work here is drying up. logging  moved out  years ago and  Exxon dragging it feet on development of an field they  bid on 30 years ago. BP/Conco  laying off workers lot of them from out of state.  Lot of the other little guys are  closing up their sites and moving south. looks like the  state will become an zoo for tourist of which that dollars stay in the tourist indrusty and goes south . 40 shops here in Ketchikan and all of them boarded up till May when the tour ships come back up here.  So not much jobs here and yet folks  keep coming here after they lose their jobs  down south. never have figured that one out. Cost more to live here  then down there.

John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on December 09, 2015, 08:45:58 AM
Many people don't realize the repercussions from the downward spiral of the US (and Canadian) oil industry.   As Bushman mentioned, you have all the equipment, support, transportation, food, etc., services that are directly affected.  Something else that is directly affected is the local economy of the small large towns that the industry's workers come from.  The governments have come to depend on the extra revenue from sales and income taxes...those forms of revenue will be directly impacted when the tax returns begin to plummet.  Governments are not entities that like to downsize...government employees love their "cost of living" raises and their basket of perks.  I've always said that the last breathing entity will be the government...they take care of their own.  Government is like a heroin or maybe a meth addict when it comes to tax revenue...they'll do anything to get it. 

So...where will the addict get it's drug?  Increases in sales tax rates, increases in income taxes, increases in fuel taxes, increases in property taxes, increases in...  You get the idea.  Low gas prices are nice but the tax revenue lost will be replaced...from somewhere, either by increased taxes or reduced services.  Pick your poison, er, well maybe not...I forgot that they're the government...they'll pick it for you.

And don't forget, the oil industry is intimately tied to the financial industry...

The energy industry is/was one of the top five industries in the nation...unless something happens that requires us to be self-reliant it's dead...the doctor just hasn't gotten back from the hotel with the nurse to officially pronounce it dead...yet.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on December 09, 2015, 09:46:54 AM
Well said Intheswamp!!   =D&gt;
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on December 09, 2015, 10:17:14 AM
Please educate me...  gasoline prices are relative low right now and that is because of over supply, lower per barrel price, ??

I sympathize with those in the oil industry and the sub-industries who are getting in dire circumstances, but they have been paid well in the past - way more than most other industries except entertainment.  They have gambled on the future, and maybe too much.  I just don't get the past frequent gasoline price changes just in advance of long weekends that fluctuated from day-to-day.  It was the same gasoline in the seller's tanks that they sold at $1.18 or $1.35 per litre, just because they could.  Per barrel price is now, what 50 or 40% of the high price but pump prices are only down about 25%.  It seemed like a rip-off to the consumer, so will need to take a little longer to get over the hard times now faced by those who benefited so greatly before.

I relate this a bit to the farming industry which has undergone many ups and downs in their fortune, but they have persisted and ride-out the bad times looking forward to better times.

Circumstances are different but I do recall the early 1980s and the exodus from the oil fields in Canada.

p.s. I am aware government taxes at the pump affects prices both as a fixed amount and percentage add-on.  Also governments gambled with future revenue from the oil industry so they will suffer as well.  But we :-(, the taxpayers, are the ones who are the government financers in both good and bad times.

Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on December 09, 2015, 10:30:31 AM
Actually, gasoline prices are HIGH relative to the cost of a barrel of oil.  Downstream windfall profit taking.  As to your claim that  oil industry professionals have done well in the past, that is true - but they make up a very small percentage of the worker population.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: txweather.org on December 09, 2015, 11:06:14 AM
Please educate me...  gasoline prices are relative low right now and that is because of over supply, lower per barrel price, ??

I sympathize with those in the oil industry and the sub-industries who are getting in dire circumstances, but they have been paid well in the past - way more than most other industries except entertainment.  They have gambled on the future, and maybe too much.  I just don't get the past frequent gasoline price changes just in advance of long weekends that fluctuated from day-to-day.  It was the same gasoline in the seller's tanks that they sold at $1.18 or $1.35 per litre, just because they could.  Per barrel price is now, what 50 or 40% of the high price but pump prices are only down about 25%.  It seemed like a rip-off to the consumer, so will need to take a little longer to get over the hard times now faced by those who benefited so greatly before.

I relate this a bit to the farming industry which has undergone many ups and downs in their fortune, but they have persisted and ride-out the bad times looking forward to better times.

Circumstances are different but I do recall the early 1980s and the exodus from the oil fields in Canada.

p.s. I am aware government taxes at the pump affects prices both as a fixed amount and percentage add-on.  Also governments gambled with future revenue from the oil industry so they will suffer as well.  But we :-(, the taxpayers, are the ones who are the government financers in both good and bad times.

Paul

Paul,

No insult intended but there is allot of ignorance on your post.
How do you know we are all well paid?
I certainly wasn't. I am your average Linux/UNIX Admin which Houston is flood it with.
Because you read that executives get paid well does not mean the whole industry gets paid well.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on December 09, 2015, 01:08:26 PM
I am truly sorry I offended you and anyone else, it wasn't my intent, and I should have been more specific to what I know rather than what I don't know.  I do know that in Canada in the Alberta oil sands a lot of easterners moved there for the big bucks, bought homes, etc.  Now as their job is disappearing many are coming back.  I do acknowledge my ignorance in the overall scope and therefore started with "please educate me".  I will continue to read but abstain from further comment here... other than to say our gas prices range from 0.849 to 1.179 $/lt within days...

Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on December 09, 2015, 04:17:49 PM
Read this; there will be a short quiz later.  ;)  http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/energy-production-its-an-ontario-story-too/article24508714/  (And wait till we start to talk transfer payments.  Like Quebec can really afford universal $7/day daycare without them...)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on December 09, 2015, 05:37:01 PM
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AN ANALOGY: ...and the red man said "...beware what the white man says, because his interests are only HIS interests..."

How true that was  back then as it  still is. Living in an small native village you see it everyday.


John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on December 09, 2015, 06:23:15 PM
AN ANALOGY: ...and the red man said "...beware what the white man says, because his interests are only HIS interests..."

Nope - nothing racist here.  Thanks Donald.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 09, 2015, 07:17:33 PM
In May 1973 average gas price was .38 cents a gallon. Today's real value ($2.14) gallon. So we are pre-oil embargo price range currently.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 10, 2015, 04:31:13 PM
We're still hanging at $1.69, so today we took our "Detroit iron" out of the garage to counter the Skoda (don't see many of those around here?) - ha. We're not as proud as we once were, but we're as proud once as we ever were (on sunny days only).It's 82.9F today, got on the shorts, went out and burned a little of that fuel in the Mark VIII around the Hill Country of Texas.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on December 10, 2015, 05:04:11 PM
Nice :-)

Wow 83F!  I just came home and I am sipping hot chocolate, it is freezing outside :D
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 10, 2015, 06:02:28 PM
83F is close, if not, a record, should be more like high 60's which it will be next week, but why would we complain? I've lived in Chicago where it can be brutal, I've seen -60F wind chills and here in TX I've seen 115F, it's a wonder the enamel on my teeth hasn't cracked due to thermal shock - ha.

Yes, the Mark was only made from '93 to '98 and not many even in those years. The color and interior on this one are considered "rare to extremely rare" so I take care of it. I've had this one 18 years with 208K miles, but still a joy to drive (on sunny days only - ha).

PS: forgot to add that's a double overhead cam 32 valve V8 under the hood - but still gets over 21mpg
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on December 17, 2015, 05:03:05 PM
The lowest gas price here is $1.64 at Murphy's near the east side Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on December 17, 2015, 05:41:21 PM
The lowest gas price here is $1.64 at Murphy's near the east side Wal-Mart.

$1.61 right now at the Admiral and Memorial QuikTrip as well as the Murphy's across the street at Walmart.  They've been engaging in a price war off and on since this WalMart reopened (it was one of the five closed for 'plumbing issues').
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 23, 2015, 08:11:58 AM
WalMart was doing a Merry Christmas special the last few days at $1.60.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CNYWeather on December 23, 2015, 09:00:49 AM
$2.25 here.

We're always about 20-25 cents above the national average.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 23, 2015, 05:50:23 PM
Still not bad all things considered. My biggest problem was getting to a pump. The gas filler on this car is right side and everyone else is left side so as usual, I'm going the wrong direction and it took some patience and a bit of "push & shove" to get into a stall -ha.

When I moved to MX 8 years ago the gas was cheap by comparison and then the gov started monthly increments and of course it never came down and so today is considerably higher than our average.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 24, 2015, 01:58:10 PM
Still sinking, $1.58 at several stations and $1.54 with their card at another. Merry Christmas to users, a lump of coal for producers and their workers.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on December 24, 2015, 07:13:42 PM
Yep, $1.55 at most places here in Tulsa.  I hear OKC is even cheaper.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: AWL on December 24, 2015, 09:23:23 PM
Still sinking, $1.58 at several stations and $1.54 with their card at another. Merry Christmas to users, a lump of coal for producers and their workers.

Got to love that cheap price at the pump. A Merry Christmas to you too as I work a 12 hour shift Christmas Eve away from my family. Hope all those working tonight and tomorrow keeping America running get more than a lump of coal in their stocking. I'll beat everyone to the punch  :-({|=

Doug
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on December 25, 2015, 12:43:54 AM
Got to love that cheap price at the pump. A Merry Christmas to you too as I work a 12 hour shift Christmas Eve away from my family. Hope all those working tonight and tomorrow keeping America running get more than a lump of coal in their stocking. I'll beat everyone to the punch  :-({|=

Doug

Luckily I'm off for Christmas this year.  But, since natural gas is cheaper than coal, not much going on at work anyway.  Coal is the high-dollar fuel for making electricity now.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on January 27, 2016, 08:28:55 PM
For a while there it would never get below $1.99.
Now it's down to $1.72 and still dropping. :shock:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on January 27, 2016, 08:40:09 PM
So far, about 20% of oil patch jobs (and these are high tax payers) lost in Alberta.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: W3DRM on January 27, 2016, 11:24:27 PM
Filled-up yesterday at COSTCO in Carson City, Nevada - regular now at $1.79.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on January 28, 2016, 11:08:07 AM
http://oilpro.com/post/21875/60000-layoffs-texas-og-since-downturn-began-economist-says?utm_source=DailyNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_term=2016-01-28&utm_content=Feature_1_txt
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 28, 2016, 11:28:08 AM
We're taking a big hit in TX in our jobs sector. We're at $1.51 yesterday.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 28, 2016, 03:46:30 PM
I saved $12 on a tank of gas, yippee. Lost many $$$$ on my retirement 401K however  :-(
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on January 28, 2016, 06:10:04 PM
I saved $12 on a tank of gas, yippee. Lost many $$$$ on my retirement 401K however  :-(

Just imagine the hundreds of thousands of US and Canadian workers who not only lost on RRSP/401K but are losing houses.  Cheap oil is a global worry.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on January 28, 2016, 06:24:32 PM
I saved $12 on a tank of gas, yippee. Lost many $$$$ on my retirement 401K however  :-(

Just imagine the hundreds of thousands of US and Canadian workers who not only lost on RRSP/401K but are losing houses.  Cheap oil is a global worry.
Not saying it's necessarily fair, but one mans gain will always be another mans loss.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on January 28, 2016, 08:23:03 PM
I am too scared to look at my investments.

Gas was at 1.59 for a while, now back up to 1.69-1.75
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 29, 2016, 09:31:17 AM
I'm not much on tinkering with free market stuff, but when the Saudis decided to break the shale oil boom it hurt. All it did was put shale oil in park temporarily until prices come back up, but I think I'd favor seeing oil at $50 a barrel and let the world do as it will. Of course all things connected together are and maybe that has it's bad side as well.   
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on February 04, 2016, 03:44:30 AM
The cheapest gas in Stillwater where I filled up Wednesday evening was $1.38 at Murphy's by the east side Wal-Mart.  In Oklahoma City prices were as low as $1.22.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on February 04, 2016, 06:10:30 PM
Obama will fix that!  His proposal will add about 50 cents to each US gallon!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: gwwilk on February 04, 2016, 06:48:04 PM
Obama will fix that!  His proposal will add about 50 cents to each US gallon!
This might be about the only thing I agree with Obama on.  There's no excuse for allowing our highway infrastructure to deteriorate in the face of increasingly fuel efficient vehicles which equal lower funding for roads per mile traveled.  In a rational world those who use roads should pay for them.  It would also help reinforce the need for even more efficient transportation.  After all, it's only fair.

The real question remains, can we trust the government to hold up their end of the bargain and actually devote 100% of this revenue to highways?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on February 04, 2016, 07:04:41 PM
Funny.  50 cents a gallon and none of it will go to general revenue?  BTW I agree - f these things went to transportation use I'd support them.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on February 04, 2016, 07:25:42 PM
The real question remains, can we trust the government to hold up their end of the bargain and actually devote 100% of this revenue to highways?
You must be kidding. Trust this government :?: :?: Never happen.

$1.56 here, down $0.03 from yesterday. Nice trend.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: gwwilk on February 04, 2016, 09:20:07 PM
[rant]
I just read a story that has the proposed tax applied on producers, not consumers, the result of which would increase the price of gasoline by 25¢!  This is merely a ploy to boost general revenue for social engineering projects, and I for one consider it unconscionable and reprehensible.  We'll see if our post-constitutional government's other two branches allow the executive branch to levy a new tax.  I'm sure Obama's minions would sleuth out a quasi-plausible statutory justification.  Congress needs to put its foot down and quash this one.
[/rant]
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on February 04, 2016, 10:00:25 PM
There are far too many things those idiots should have done but have not. They're not at all interested in the voice of the people, but only in furthering their own schemes and careers.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on February 05, 2016, 12:21:42 AM
[rant]
I just read a story that has the proposed tax applied on producers, not consumers, the result of which would increase the price of gasoline by 25¢!  This is merely a ploy to boost general revenue for social engineering projects, and I for one consider it unconscionable and reprehensible.  We'll see if our post-constitutional government's other two branches allow the executive branch to levy a new tax.  I'm sure Obama's minions would sleuth out a quasi-plausible statutory justification.  Congress needs to put its foot down and quash this one.
[/rant]
Riigghhtttt....  And producers never pass along the costs!   LOL  BTW, on average you get about 19 or 20 US gallons of gasoline from a barrel of oil... well, you do the math as to what $10/bbl would mean.  If by some bizarre chance this was actually to pass, 10/bbl would kill half the US oil production if producers were forced to eat the tax.  I can hear the laughter from Moscow and Riyahd.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 06, 2016, 11:14:49 AM
That is, and always has been, the curse of falling gas prices, they can't wait to jack the tax and it never goes where needed and of course never goes away. This proposal yesterday was a joke, it's DOA and nothing more than an attempted resume builder for legacy. Get used to it, we've got months to go and we'll see a lot of crazy stuff, none of which is serious.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 06, 2016, 12:06:38 PM
Purchased 300 gallons propane at $1.05 gallon last summer with a 175 gallon top off this winter and was thinking I was getting a smoking deal. (NOT) its under a $1 now but who could predict that, so lost money.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on February 10, 2016, 07:27:19 PM
At N. May and 164th in Edmond within the Oklahoma City metro area.

(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12669653_776758372428908_4023557172000522292_n.jpg?oh=ec4a5b7cdd8b4ae6dd2767b9387a4681&oe=576801D2)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on February 10, 2016, 11:13:39 PM
That should make these folks happy:  http://newsok.com/article/5478075?slideout=1
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 11, 2016, 12:48:23 PM
We were still at $1.41 yesterday. Isn't it odd what when you know the truth of economics that's not good news? But then again, I don't think they teach "economics" or logic in schools anymore.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on February 11, 2016, 12:56:56 PM
Gas prices are a funny thing.  So many folks love the schadenfreude aspect but simply don't realize what little personal impact it has on them (go ahead - see what you are actually saving over a year compared to food, mortgage, car payments etc.) versus impact on the whole of society.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on February 11, 2016, 01:06:02 PM
Gas prices are a funny thing.  So many folks love the schadenfreude aspect but simply don't realize what little personal impact it has on them (go ahead - see what you are actually saving over a year compared to food, mortgage, car payments etc.) versus impact on the whole of society.

I need to look no further than my retirement 401K balance to say this isn't healthy for me anyway. What really stinks I'm forced with my company after retirement, to make a proportional withdraw this February while everything is still down. When I retired I had to pick a yearly date and unfortunately picked the end of February thinking if I owed taxes this would be a good date.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 29, 2016, 07:35:08 PM
Whoa? what did I miss? - the other day it was $1.34 and today it's $1.49? That's a heck of a jump and no holiday etc.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 29, 2016, 08:29:10 PM
Jumped here too..   +50 cents the last few weeks. 

(http://charts.gasbuddy.com/ch.gaschart?Country=Canada&Crude=f&Period=1&Areas=TwinCities,,&Unit=US%20$/G)

Opec get a little mad?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on February 29, 2016, 08:56:28 PM
Jumped from $1.53 to $1.79 in a single day in Huntington, WV two weeks ago. Back down to $1.59 though. $1.53 is about as low as I've seen since probably 2001 or 2002.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on March 01, 2016, 12:43:32 PM
Jumped from $1.53 to $1.79 in a single day in Huntington, WV two weeks ago. Back down to $1.59 though. $1.53 is about as low as I've seen since probably 2001 or 2002.

Saw it down to $1.16 in NE Oklahoma for a bit; but now back up to about $1.59.  I'm ok with that, as Oklahoma's economy is really driven by oil/gas, so there has been alot of impact here.

But, these companies were spending so much money because they though oil would never be below $100/barrel again.  Bet they don't make that same mistake again....oh, who am I kidding...LOL.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on March 01, 2016, 01:31:24 PM
Arco $1.27 here. Been steadily dropping for some time now.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on March 15, 2016, 08:49:58 AM
 :???:
We had gotten down to around $1.59 most places when a couple of days ago I see prices from $1.75 to $1.85.  Crude oil has been recovering but sheese, such a jump over only a day or so???????
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on March 15, 2016, 08:56:06 AM
Been around $1.85 here for a solid week or so. Boy, it jumped back up fast! It was in the $1.50s two weeks ago.  8-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 15, 2016, 08:58:07 PM
Yeah the same here. :sad:
Went from 1.54 to 1.99 in a couple weeks.
I'll never understand why the price fluctuates so much. :???:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on March 17, 2016, 08:52:47 AM
Yeah the same here. :sad:
Went from 1.54 to 1.99 in a couple weeks.
I'll never understand why the price fluctuates so much. :???:
Yeah, it's crazy how it can bounce around.  Speculators cause a good bit of movement and also local greed(?).  Seems when a holiday is approaching we will see prices begin to creep up...I guess getting ready for the holiday travelers, especially for "beach oriented" holidays (like spring-break, Labor Day, etc.,.). :evil:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 17, 2016, 09:38:35 AM
We bounced from $1.44 to $1.78 in short order, guess it's the St Pat's day holiday?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on March 17, 2016, 09:52:54 AM
http://www.canadianbusiness.com/blogs-and-comment/do-gas-stations-gouge-customers-before-long-weekends/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on March 17, 2016, 12:12:16 PM
Whatever it is (besides the oil companies greed) it's gone from $1.33 to $1.59 here in just over a week. Of course that doesn't include the 'big guys' (Shell, Mobil, etc.) who are already over $2!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: W3DRM on March 18, 2016, 01:16:32 AM
Filled-up here at COSTCO in Carson City, NV last week at $1.79, today it was up to $2.01. Guess the party is over...  ](*,)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on March 18, 2016, 02:06:20 AM
Arco up another $.06 to $1.65 since my earlier post today. Costco at $1.64.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 18, 2016, 09:46:53 AM
A couple of articles say it's due to refinery maintenance and changing to Summer blends - yeah sure and pigs are flying?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on March 22, 2016, 12:35:56 AM
Arco up another $.06 to $1.65 since my earlier post today. Costco at $1.64.
In Stillwater the cheapist price is $1.75 as of Mon. night:  http://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on March 22, 2016, 02:24:25 AM
Arco jumped to $1.77, Costco $1.75.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Ian. on March 22, 2016, 02:45:40 AM
5.50 US Dollar UK equivalent :-( and rising.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on March 22, 2016, 10:50:57 AM
5.50 US Dollar UK equivalent :-( and rising.

But it is a larger gallon.  :)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Ian. on March 22, 2016, 11:21:57 AM
5.50 US Dollar UK equivalent :-( and rising.

But it is a larger gallon.  :)

That was for a US Gallon, it would be $6.55 equivalent UK Gallon!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on March 22, 2016, 01:03:15 PM
Old Tele man, here's a prediction I made a while back.  Btw, my SIL ended up being hired by another company which gave him a promotion...yeah, I think the bigwigs knew what was going on all the time.  :evil:

I am glad you are all enjoying this awesome gas prices.
Texas is suffering a major down hall on work and a bunch of layoffs are just poring down out of the price of the barrel...

I been affected because of this price game... :(
Yep, it's hitting a lot of families.  My son-in-law got his letter a few weeks back...unless his company gets a contract from *somewhere* he will be home bound indefinitely.  I like him to have a good paycheck...he's the father of my three granddaughters aged 4 months to 9 years old. 

People don't realize that the Arabs are intentionally killing the American oil industry.  There are actually less affluent Arab countries that want the wealthy countries to cut back on production rather than to continue flooding the market with this cheap oil.  Once the American companies are out of the picture I wonder what the Arabs will do with the price.  And, the companies that fold and the banks own...why the rich Chinese/Russians/Saudis/etc will waltz in and buy those companies up for a nickle on the dollar and the USA will be left holding an empty bag but more debt.  Cheap gas is nice, but I wonder what the real cost is going to be...???  :?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on March 22, 2016, 05:09:43 PM
A couple of articles say it's due to refinery maintenance and changing to Summer blends - yeah sure and pigs are flying?

Being the son of a refinery worker, these things do happen.  March and April is when refineries tend to do their 'turnarounds', or maintenance.  Summer blends however don't usually start until later, like around April.  Partial BS.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: 4wd on March 23, 2016, 04:18:40 PM
We have pence per litre here, it did get just below £1 at the cheaper outlets but has also been edging up - about 104p today.
That seems to work out about $5.55 per US Gallon.
So don't complain  :-P
It still seems cheap(ish) here as not long back it was close to 150p/litre.

This is all due to taxation of course.
A minor plus point of this is that oil price fluctuation effect is less severe as a percentage of the total cost.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on April 20, 2016, 08:59:06 AM
$1.93 fifty miles south of Montgomery, Alabama...definitely increased over the last month or so.   Recently I did see something that I haven't seen in years...diesel cheaper than regular gas...?  FWIW....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on April 20, 2016, 12:29:01 PM
Arco bouncing between $1.97 and $1.99 the past few days. Same here with diesel being cheaper than gas. Weird...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on April 20, 2016, 02:15:10 PM
I looked this morning and it looks like they've kicked diesel back up above regular gas...by about seven cents.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on May 19, 2016, 04:35:23 PM
We're back to $2 or a penny or two under, so goes the budget.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on May 19, 2016, 04:57:15 PM
One side of town (remember, it's a big town with two traffic lights) is $2.00, the other side (the side that's on my way home from work) is $2.10.  Go figure...

Heard from a guy who has worked offshore from Saudi Arabia, he's worked there for the last 10-15 years.  He just got laid off and was told not to expect to come back for three years.  My SIL is looking only as for as 150 days ahead at the moment (works in the Gulf of Mexico), but I think he may be preparing to go with another company afterwards as he's getting all his passport info together again.

Folks losing their jobs in the oil industry yet the price is heading back up...politicians, speculators, SOBs, monkeying with things.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on May 19, 2016, 10:28:02 PM
Back up to 2.29 here. Went up fast when the fires in Canada whipped up. One story about fires in the oil sands region then BOOM up thirty cents.  It claimed the fires would wipe out the glut and supply in the US. 

Made up crap. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: cospringswx on May 20, 2016, 02:37:04 AM
Going up here too. $2.15.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on July 26, 2016, 08:29:30 AM
$1.78.9 in Greenville, Alabama

$1.95.9 seventeen miles to the east in Luverne, Alabama
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on July 26, 2016, 08:43:54 AM
We're still at $1.89 in central TX. I was in Denver a week ago and had budgeted $2.50 a gal, I think it was closer to $2.10 for the entire trip.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on July 26, 2016, 12:24:24 PM
$1.97 here. Down $.02 from 2 days ago.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on July 26, 2016, 12:25:29 PM
1.89 here...up about 14 cents from last week
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on July 26, 2016, 05:37:12 PM
2.29 here near Fairbanks. Local refinery tits up so every thing trucked in.

John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: lrosenman on July 26, 2016, 06:43:31 PM
just paid $1.959 (with $0.03 fuel rewards discount).
Austin, TX
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on July 26, 2016, 06:53:34 PM
Currently approximately 4 here
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on July 26, 2016, 08:26:32 PM
1.99-2.03 
Been a good drop last two weeks.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on July 26, 2016, 08:45:41 PM
Just went to 1.99 here. :-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on July 26, 2016, 11:46:36 PM
We haven't been at or above $2 for 87 octane in probably 6 months here.  We've had $1.99 a couple of times, but that was it.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on August 04, 2016, 05:41:16 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/04/investing/200000-oil-jobs-lost/index.html  That is a lot of suffering families and lost income tax.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on August 09, 2016, 10:57:51 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/04/investing/200000-oil-jobs-lost/index.html  That is a lot of suffering families and lost income tax.

Yes, it's hitting close to home with my SIL...he's dodged all the bullets but this time he comes home it's for good.  People don't realize the impact that cheap gas is making on many families.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on August 09, 2016, 11:26:15 PM
And this time I think those jobs are not coming back.  Not even a green economy can help a geophysicist.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on August 10, 2016, 05:29:38 AM
And this time I think those jobs are not coming back.  Not even a green economy can help a geophysicist.
Unfortunately it works both ways.
Back when diesel was $5 a gallon I know of several small  business's  that went under because of it. Definitely hurt the little guy more then the big guy.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on August 18, 2016, 09:43:20 AM
And this time I think those jobs are not coming back.  Not even a green economy can help a geophysicist.
Unfortunately it works both ways.
Back when diesel was $5 a gallon I know of several small  business's  that went under because of it. Definitely hurt the little guy more then the big guy.
This isn't hurting the "big guy", it's hurting the oil rig workers who work in a very hazardous environment providing something that John Q Public has an insatiable appetite for.  But, I guess we can simply keep on buying it from OPEC and keep their economies afloat and add three or four hundred thousand more families to the unemployment list along with  those small businesses.  Oh, and don't forget that all the income tax and unemployment taxes they were paying in will no longer be available...the people left working will simply have to take up the slack.  :???:

Not meaning to rant, but again, it's not the BIG guy that's getting hurt in the oil industry collapse, it's the small guys and their families who have mortgages and car payments and doctor bills and...  Don't be confused, these are regular hardworking people that lost their jobs and their families' livelihoods...they're not high-dollar CEOs and CFOs and rich investors...just good, regular people.

Ed
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 18, 2016, 07:19:30 PM
Well, $1.77 today and that's also going to kill any SS raise for the year, it's killed the last two.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on September 06, 2016, 12:50:43 PM
http://money.cnn.com/interactive/economy/find-the-worlds-cheapest-gas/?iid=HP_LN
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on September 06, 2016, 02:48:55 PM
Quote
That map gives only "national average" not the actual "lowest" price(s) found.
I doubt you would find a lower price than the average in Venezuela :)

Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on September 06, 2016, 02:54:00 PM
As long as you pay in Black Market USD otherwise...  http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/02/18/venezuela-boosts-worlds-cheapest-gas-prices-stem-economic-collapse/80548466/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 06, 2016, 03:06:17 PM
We're hanging around $1.89, but my friends in MX are whining big time, gas is high and going up again. They claim "free market" pricing is coming within a year, but who knows what that means?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SpringHillWeather on September 06, 2016, 07:29:07 PM
$2.49 here in NYC over the Labor Day weekend....

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on September 06, 2016, 07:32:48 PM
Us Europeans can only be jealous, even if it was 3 dollars :D
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on September 07, 2016, 05:36:49 PM
What is it an liter in Europe?

John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on September 07, 2016, 05:48:36 PM
Here in CZ it is about 1.5 dollars/liter
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 07, 2016, 06:03:36 PM
How much of that is tax, we have a Federal Tax and State and maybe even local taxes in some areas. The Federal is $0.184 per gallon and in TX it's $0.20 per gallon, so the gov holds out it's hand and the pump for over 28 cents per gallon without doing a lick of work or investing a penny in speculation of drilling etc. And, TX is low on tax, many whack you a lot more. And, the hilarious thing is that now more electric cars, hybrids are using less gas the gov is whining about loss of revenue and exploring tax per mile traveled for the highway funds - which are never spent totally on highways? When an oil company makes even $0.10 per gallon everyone is bouncing off the walls, but no one seems to notice 28 cents per gallon for holding out their hands?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on September 07, 2016, 06:08:03 PM
you mean how much is the tax out of that 1.50? About 0.85 I think. Over 50%.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 08, 2016, 12:37:02 PM
Now you see part of the disconnect, we pay a bunch, but typically foreign taxes are considerably higher. But I'd guarantee you that 90% of people here couldn't tell you how much the gov sucks out and does nothing to earn.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: W3DRM on September 08, 2016, 04:58:13 PM
Here is a link to the American Petroleum Institute that shows the various taxes for each State in the US.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 08, 2016, 05:08:03 PM
'Tis a privilege to live in Texas for many reasons, this being one of them and we have no personal income tax either.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on September 08, 2016, 06:16:56 PM
Crazy... and it is pretty much the same in the entire Europe (and the data below is 5 yrs old, it is more now).

1GBP used to be almost 2 dollars back then

Quote
From 23 March 2011 the UK duty rate for the road fuels unleaded petrol, diesel, biodiesel and bioethanol is GB£0.5795 per litre (£2.63 per imperial gallon or £2.19 per U.S. gallon).

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on September 08, 2016, 06:25:46 PM
This is also interesting:
http://www.racfoundation.org/data/taxation-as-percentage-of-pump-price-data-page

Im glad I dont have a car.... I do have a driving license and I love driving (cars are my second biggest hobby after meteorology), but the costs are crazy
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 08, 2016, 07:14:21 PM
Many many years ago I figured it out and at that point I'd driven 1.5M miles, so by now I'm well over 2M, my Mark VIII has 230K and the Jeep 135K. One year when I was traveling I flew over 200K miles and drove another 50K for business, I was in 38 states that year. We had friends in Chicago when we lived there that lived "in town" and didn't have a car, didn't make sense, if they wanted one for the weekend etc they'd just rent one. Me? - no high rise for me, I gotta smell the grass and be able to jump in the car and drive, down the street, next town or to the next state, you name it, but that's the way probably most of us here in America were raised. Speaking of smelling the grass, I've been on the lawn tractor the last two mornings whacking my weeds, I've got 1.5 acres so it takes a bit of time now that it's a bit cooler.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 16, 2016, 10:50:32 AM
We're at $1.75 in some places now and things like this http://www.star-telegram.com/news/business/article114931993.html with a new administration should keep things in check for a time. Of course the curse is that due to low energy prices, my SS is getting a yuuge increase next year of 0.3% or about $6 and Medicare is going up $5?. Now we can build the long delayed Keystone pipeline down from CA.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on November 16, 2016, 11:44:07 AM
Nice, prices went down here too, but still.... :D

http://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/Europe/

To get the value in USD per gallon, multiply the above numbers by 3.8 :D
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 16, 2016, 12:06:55 PM
Looks like $4.44 a gallon, that's a bit steep, but then again, you probably don't drive the miles we do.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jáchym on November 16, 2016, 12:34:30 PM
Yes thats correct :D I drive 0 miles because I take public transport all the time :D There is no way I could afford a car, and even if I could, in fact if you only commute within the city, it is much faster by the tram because the traffic jams here are ridiculous... my colleague just came a few minutes ago. He only went to pick up something on the other side of the city (horizontal distance around 10 miles) and the journey there and back took him over 2.5 hrs.... Nightmare.... The public transport is sometimes also affected by this, but it is not so bad.

Cars used to be my biggest hobby when I was younger :D and I of course do have a driving license, I got one when I was 17 already :D Right now, if I was totally unlimited in terms of money etc. I would buy the Tesla S, I really like the design, the fact it is electric and its unbeatable acceleration :D Right now Teslas are not sold in CZ, so you only see them very rarely when someone imports it from Germany or Austria. But they are very expensive cars so really not many people can have it, Ive probably seen maybe 2 or 3 here in total.
Or I would get an Audi or Skoda, I like those two manufacturers as well.

The gas prices went down here too, at the beginning of the year it was about 25% more than it is now. It changes very quickly.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on November 16, 2016, 12:47:28 PM
1.85-1.89 here.  Big drop again.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 16, 2016, 01:51:09 PM
Do you enjoy living in the City? It looks like Brno has a population of around 350,000. I live about 70 miles NW of Austin which is now a metro area of 2 million and growing rapidly. I'm in the middle of TX with about 350-450 miles to the edge borders. When I drive down to MX to Acuna to shop it's 220 miles, so an easy day trip. I prefer to stay out of cities any more and I have no reason to be there. During my working years I traveled extensively, one year I flew 100,000 and drove another 50,000 and worked largely in cities, that was enough.

Many of our older cities with centralized business districts have good public transportation, they were designed and grew as hub cities. Newer cities are decentralized and while some have sizable public transportation systems they serve only a small percentage of the commuters.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on November 21, 2016, 02:11:59 AM
Here in town, Wal-Mart recently opened a new gas station in conjunction with the company's  neighborhood market.  Interestingly enough, it seems to be trying to provoke a gas price war.  It has the lowest price with $1.69.   A nearby station is the only one wanting to meet the same price.  I didn't know Wal-Mart recently decided to add gas stations.    More competition for gas prices is welcomed in this town.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/wal-mart-to-operate-its-own-gas-stations-2016-02-03 (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/wal-mart-to-operate-its-own-gas-stations-2016-02-03)

(http://stillwaterweather.com/images/gaspricesstw.png)
http://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html (http://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html)

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 21, 2016, 08:01:55 AM
Down here their gas stations are Murphy stations and we were at $1.67 the other day when I passed by.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on November 22, 2016, 01:34:48 PM
Down here their gas stations are Murphy stations and we were at $1.67 the other day when I passed by.

The Murphy station here at the east side Wal-Mart happened to go down to $1.69 to meet the new Wal-Mart gas station price.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on November 22, 2016, 07:00:49 PM
Dayum!
That's cheap.
Just getting down to 1.99 here which is tied for the lowest it's ever been.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on November 22, 2016, 07:29:30 PM
Down here their gas stations are Murphy stations and we were at $1.67 the other day when I passed by.

The Murphy station here at the east side Wal-Mart happened to go down to $1.69 to meet the new Wal-Mart gas station price.

I heard that the $1.69 price is only to create talk to get people to know there is a new Wal-Mart gas station there. It'll go up in a few weeks.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on November 22, 2016, 07:43:30 PM

geez  remember back when regular was 25 cents an gal  and extra was 30 cents....  of course that was long before the no lead days.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on November 22, 2016, 07:45:51 PM
I remember in Arkansas a long time ago when we were taking a family vacation from Ohio to Texas regular gas was 18 cents! Trying to remember but I think it was mid to late 60's.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on November 22, 2016, 08:50:35 PM
Those price I said where from early 60.  In 59 regular was 20 cents. In April of 60 those where the prices as I left for boot camp?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 31, 2016, 04:32:44 PM
Darn? - went into town and we've gone from $1.76 to $2.09 in not that many weeks, Happy New Year. Sort of rubs salt in the wound, we didn't get a SS increase this year - again, due in large part the "low" price of energy?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on December 31, 2016, 04:44:54 PM
3.09 here   and that 2nd time in an week. Every time they replenish their tanks the price goes up.  two weeks ago it was 2.90

John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Otis on December 31, 2016, 05:06:09 PM
Prices go up $0.07 on January 1 for us in Michigan, State is raising their gas tax.  Right now for me it is $2.45 so tomorrow +0.07 oh boy.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on December 31, 2016, 05:43:36 PM
Nov 22nd-$1.99
December 31st- $2.42
 :-(
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on December 31, 2016, 05:59:29 PM
Nov 22nd-$1.99
December 31st- $2.42
 :-(

same amount of hike here too. 2.27
so between the holidays, and OPEC holding back 1 million gallons? Maybe some price gouging.

Need to get Dakota access finished.
Maximum discharge   0.45 million barrels per day
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jgillett on December 31, 2016, 06:04:29 PM
Arco here was holding at $1.87 for weeks but went to $1.89 today.

Shucks.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: hankster on December 31, 2016, 10:45:42 PM
Summer 2014 = $3.70
Current = $2.29
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on January 01, 2017, 07:37:09 AM
Arco here was holding at $1.87 for weeks but went to $1.89 today.

Shucks.
Well, dam! That's just wrong. Time to get out out the horse and carriage. :-P
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: 92merc on January 01, 2017, 11:52:05 AM
Gas just went up to 2.29 last week.  We'd been at 2.09 for probably 6 months.

Increase in gas prices is a bit of a double edged sword for ND.  I pay more at the pump.  But if gas prices are increasing, so are oil prices.  And with increased oil prices, my state gets increased tax revenue.  So I can live with a bit of an increase.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Phil23 on January 01, 2017, 04:46:16 PM
Premium 98 is going in the boat this last week at $146.9Aud per  litre.
Regular unleaded is $126.8.

US comparisons  are $3.47 & $4.00 per US Gallon.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on January 01, 2017, 05:45:38 PM
I haven't been out today to see the price but it is supposed to be going up Jan 1st by 4.3 cents for the cap-and-trade surcharge. 
It had been between 1.00 to 1.10 Can$ per litre last week which is about 3.79 to 4.16 per US gallon.  Converting that to $US exchange rate is about 2.84 to 3.12 US$/gal.

A couple weeks ago there were stations at $0.90/ltr which would be about 2.56 US$/gal,  and did fill up at a First Nation station (reduced provincial taxes) at the time at $0.85/ltr or $2.41 US$/gal.

Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: belfryboy on January 04, 2017, 04:55:32 AM
Ours is currenyly £1.17 per litre, and rising rapidly, so thats over $5/USG !
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Scalphunter on January 12, 2017, 07:22:11 PM
3.20/gal for gas  and diesel today was 3.00/gal

John
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 12, 2017, 07:52:26 PM
MX just deregulated their price and raised it 20% and it's causing some serious problems.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SpringHillWeather on January 14, 2017, 01:33:52 PM
$2.57 a gallon here in N.Y.C. trending upwards...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Phil23 on January 14, 2017, 05:19:47 PM
Premium 98 is going in the boat this last week at $146.9Aud per  litre.
Regular unleaded is $126.8.

US comparisons  are $3.47 & $4.00 per US Gallon.

Opps, original post was Aus prices in cents not dollars....

Yesterday's Prices:-

Premium98 $1.679
Regular $1.489

Over a 20c rise hit early this week.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on January 15, 2017, 01:43:10 AM
Premium 98 is going in the boat this last week at $146.9Aud per  litre.
Regular unleaded is $126.8.

US comparisons  are $3.47 & $4.00 per US Gallon.

Opps, original post was Aus prices in cents not dollars....

Yesterday's Prices:-

Premium98 $1.679
Regular $1.489

Over a 20c rise hit early this week.

You guys do liters or gallons on pricing?  I'm guessing that price is per liter?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on January 15, 2017, 10:47:09 AM
BigOkie I think your guess is correct.  When we were there several years ago the gas was about A$1.10 litre (Sydney) and we were C$0.89 and now we are C$1.04 so about the same increase here as there.

Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SpringHillWeather on January 15, 2017, 02:51:56 PM
The taxes on gasoline and diesel are pretty significant here in New York, 43 cents more per gallon.  :shock:

Gasoline Taxes per State (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_taxes_in_the_United_States)

(http://taxfoundation.org/sites/taxfoundation.org/files/docs/GasTaxMap-01_0.png)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on January 15, 2017, 03:32:52 PM
Gas prices between $1.90 and $2.07/gal reg in the South Texas area from San Antonio to Corpus Christi the last few days, up from some sub $1.90 recently. $2.01/gal at the local HEB last night. Unscientific survey readings from casual glances at roadside signs; don't remember diesel, but it's usually ~10-15 cents higher IIRC, seldom buy it (marine use only). Look for ≥$4-5/gal by this time next year...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on January 16, 2017, 10:55:53 AM
$2.00.9/gal at the local WalMart last night (and if you load a WM card in the store while checking out, then use card in the pump, you get 5-15 cents discount/gal); so $1.96-1.86/gal).
The local 'convenience' stores were ~$2.06-2.10/gal.
Last time I wasted any money at a 'convenience' store was ~20 years ago. It was on Galveston Island, at the west end of the seawall, a fall/winter Sunday evening returning to my leased beach house way downisland from a weekend at home (long work project on island).
My thirsty vehicle gas tank had always been ~24 gallons running on empty, but this stores' pump read ~36 gallons when my tank was full???  Geez guys, screw the customer much? Started to argue with the clerk (don't ask), but I clearly was going to be seeing a cop quick that late evening, so just ate it and left. Good thing I wasn't driving the 4x4 w/100 gal tanks.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on August 31, 2017, 04:16:17 PM
Rant on.
Filled up yesterday at 2.27. Today 2.55??
This is BS!
Because of Harvey they claim production has slowed down or stopped so now they get to inflate prices so they make for lost profit. Crap like this makes me want to scream. What about all those people in Texas who are out work, have no income, no house no nothing. It's not like their employer is going to cut them a check for the next month.
The worst part is government just looks the other way.
It's price gouging pure and simple. It's not like these oil companies are going out of business anytime soon. They need to suck it up like everyone else during hard times.
But of course we can't have that can we.
This is exactly the reason Trump was elected. To stop shit like this.
Something tells me he won't do a dam thing about it. :evil: :evil: :evil:
Rant off.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 31, 2017, 04:46:34 PM
Yeah, I filled up yesterday at $2.08, I've not been in town today. They say the major refinery is shut down for 2 weeks and Dallas is reporting shortages already, so hang on, I may have to siphon some out of the lawn tractor to make a beer run?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on August 31, 2017, 05:49:55 PM
@Ocala.  Sorry pal - you haven't got a clue.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on August 31, 2017, 06:25:09 PM
Ha, I filled everything up last week, for $1.949/gal.

Y'all can't be serious about a certain 'somebody' looking out for you, can you?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on August 31, 2017, 08:34:15 PM
Y'all can't be serious about a certain 'somebody' looking out for you, can you?

Are you referring to the government, or Santa Claus for adults? :roll:  Either way, if you want something done right.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Phil23 on September 01, 2017, 04:52:50 AM
2 Bucks a Gallon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sheesh, we are getting so gouged down here in Aus.

1.30Aud/Litre x 3.79 Litres in a Gallon = $4.92Aud.

1.00Aud = 0.79USD

So we are paying $3.89USD/Gallon.
Almost Double.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 01, 2017, 08:32:54 AM
Just got a note from a friend in San Antonio, he had trouble finding gas last night, guess I'll head into town shortly and see if I can get some.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on September 01, 2017, 08:58:00 AM
I have to go to town Monday for other things.  I'm wondering about taking my four 5 gallon cans.  I can't see prices dropping for a while and there's another storm or two brewing out there that might affect the offshore platforms.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on September 01, 2017, 09:28:42 AM
Up almost 20 cents here in a week.  2.44 today.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on September 01, 2017, 09:45:11 AM
$2.40 yesterday...up about 40-cents/~17%.

From what I understand, Colonial Pipeline is/has shut down the pipeline that supplies about 40% of the souths gasoline and a little bit less of the northeast's gas supply.
http://www.wsfa.com/story/36267050/gas-prices-in-alabama-going-to-keep-rising-supply-should-go-unaffected

Colonial Pipeline had to shut down there pipeline after they had a rupture and explosion here in Alabama a year or so ago...it caused a a brief spike around the same as noted above.  But, the pipeline was fixed within roughly a week so no long-term "problem".  Texas and Louisiana *will be* long-term problems.

(https://sc.cnbcfm.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/files/2016/09/19/colonial%20pipeline.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: 92merc on September 01, 2017, 10:43:15 AM
We were at 2.29 virtually all summer in ND.  Jumped to 2.34 a week ago.  2.44 on Wednesday morning, then they backed off 2 cents to 2.42.  Coming home from work, jumped up to 2.54.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 01, 2017, 11:47:49 AM
I filled up this morning at $2.15. But, they were starting to shut down lanes at the station and another one in Marble Falls was closed down.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on September 01, 2017, 11:54:46 AM
I would not be surprised to see $3/gallon in some markets.  How long it last is another question.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on September 01, 2017, 08:13:54 PM
(https://sc.cnbcfm.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/files/2016/09/19/colonial%20pipeline.jpg)

This graphic has me scratching my head about the direction arrows.  Linden, NJ is a group of *huge* refineries, with oil tanker terminals for incoming ships from overseas.  Unless the price difference between Brent/Saudi oils and gulf platforms is huge, I would think that the arrows would/could be facing the other way.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: hankster on September 01, 2017, 09:34:03 PM
Tonight's news said it was operating from LA north.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bashy on September 02, 2017, 12:24:47 AM
and you guys think you have it bad   :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 06, 2017, 02:39:18 PM
We topped out at $2.38, yesterday in Austin I generally saw $2.50 etc. But should head back down now that rigs and refining are coming back online.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on September 06, 2017, 10:48:59 PM
Quite a bit of variability right now in the area. The highest I have seen is $2.85, but it's as low as $2.59 in other areas here in central West Virginia.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on September 07, 2017, 07:46:45 AM
$2.56...~55-cents increase since Harvey appeared on the scene.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on September 07, 2017, 11:54:12 AM

We're getting about 25 cents per litre increase, from about $1.01  2 weeks ago to $1.26 with changes throughout the day...


Not enjoying,
Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on September 07, 2017, 02:16:17 PM
$2.60 gallon

Also, noted news article about gas shortage in Florida stranding evacuees....   :-(
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: mldenison on September 07, 2017, 03:42:08 PM
$2.39 pre Houston here in PA.  Now $2.89 and steady.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on September 07, 2017, 05:34:09 PM
I see where Gov. Scott of Florida is calling out Chevron for price gouging...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 06, 2017, 05:20:56 PM
Well, we're drifting back down, ever so slowly? - $2.27 today at Murphy's, at least this next hurricane isn't scheduled to come into TX, so we should be good to go.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on October 07, 2017, 09:45:36 AM
Was in Andalusia, AL, day before yesterday....2.179 at a Marathon (Wallyworld).  Naturally I forgot to gas up, so here at home (~45 miles NE) we have *just dropped* down to 2.359.<sigh>  We had a station in town that used to hold the other stations' feet to the fire...it was kind of the moderator of gas prices.  It was recently bought out by some southern asians and it appears to be running with the pack, now.   :-|
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on October 07, 2017, 06:12:22 PM
Was in Andalusia, AL, day before yesterday....2.179 at a Marathon (Wallyworld).  Naturally I forgot to gas up, so here at home (~45 miles NE) we have *just dropped* down to 2.359.<sigh>  We had a station in town that used to hold the other stations' feet to the fire...it was kind of the moderator of gas prices.  It was recently bought out by some southern asians and it appears to be running with the pack, now.   :-|
When I had my Little Debbie route years ago the convenience store operators all said the same thing. They hardly made anything off gas. It was there just to get people to stop inside. It's true. You can get get a bottle of Gatorade at a dollar store for a buck but when you buy from from a C store it's like 1.60 and up. The chain stores like Circle K, 7-11 etc are even more expensive.
I don't know about your area but around here those C stores are becoming relics. They can't compete with the bigger chains. A lot of empty stores around here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on October 07, 2017, 06:43:41 PM
Wanna guess how the C-stores make money?  Cigarettes.  I've seen the numbers from one of the largest C-store/gas station operators in the US and smokes are THE biggest profit center.  So much so, that they tried to create standalone smoke shops.  Local legislation killed them though.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SlowModem on October 07, 2017, 11:22:21 PM
They make a lot on beer, too.

Wanna guess how the C-stores make money?  Cigarettes.  I've seen the numbers from one of the largest C-store/gas station operators in the US and smokes are THE biggest profit center.  So much so, that they tried to create standalone smoke shops.  Local legislation killed them though.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on October 08, 2017, 01:04:20 PM
Was in Andalusia, AL, day before yesterday....2.179 at a Marathon (Wallyworld).  Naturally I forgot to gas up, so here at home (~45 miles NE) we have *just dropped* down to 2.359.<sigh>  We had a station in town that used to hold the other stations' feet to the fire...it was kind of the moderator of gas prices.  It was recently bought out by some southern asians and it appears to be running with the pack, now.   :-|
When I had my Little Debbie route years ago the convenience store operators all said the same thing. They hardly made anything off gas. It was there just to get people to stop inside. It's true. You can get get a bottle of Gatorade at a dollar store for a buck but when you buy from from a C store it's like 1.60 and up. The chain stores like Circle K, 7-11 etc are even more expensive.
I don't know about your area but around here those C stores are becoming relics. They can't compete with the bigger chains. A lot of empty stores around here.
Yes, we refer to what your talking about as the "twinkie principle".  C-stores used the gas prices to lure customers in to by the more profitable "twinkies".  I think the trend is changing a bit, though, as there are some wide variations within a 20-40 mile range.  Smaller, .05-.10 variations are common within our small town.  Interestingly, the Marathon stations situated at Walmarts tend to have some of the best prices around, but some of them are nothing more than a window you deal with the clerk through to buy cigarettes, drinks, and a few other items while others are regular walk-in stores.  But, yeah, if you walk in one of the c-stores and buy mostly anything then they've made a good profit.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on October 08, 2017, 07:58:45 PM
Was in Andalusia, AL, day before yesterday....2.179 at a Marathon (Wallyworld).  Naturally I forgot to gas up, so here at home (~45 miles NE) we have *just dropped* down to 2.359.<sigh>  We had a station in town that used to hold the other stations' feet to the fire...it was kind of the moderator of gas prices.  It was recently bought out by some southern asians and it appears to be running with the pack, now.   :-|
When I had my Little Debbie route years ago the convenience store operators all said the same thing. They hardly made anything off gas. It was there just to get people to stop inside. It's true. You can get get a bottle of Gatorade at a dollar store for a buck but when you buy from from a C store it's like 1.60 and up. The chain stores like Circle K, 7-11 etc are even more expensive.
I don't know about your area but around here those C stores are becoming relics. They can't compete with the bigger chains. A lot of empty stores around here.
Yes, we refer to what your talking about as the "twinkie principle".  C-stores used the gas prices to lure customers in to by the more profitable "twinkies".  I think the trend is changing a bit, though, as there are some wide variations within a 20-40 mile range.  Smaller, .05-.10 variations are common within our small town.  Interestingly, the Marathon stations situated at Walmarts tend to have some of the best prices around, but some of them are nothing more than a window you deal with the clerk through to buy cigarettes, drinks, and a few other items while others are regular walk-in stores.  But, yeah, if you walk in one of the c-stores and buy mostly anything then they've made a good profit.

We say-"Thats the price of convenience."
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 26, 2018, 06:04:56 PM
Well, it's not a new story, but an old one - rising gas prices. I paid $2.49 today, that's the most since 2015 and I have to go to CO and NE this year for reunion?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on April 26, 2018, 06:25:55 PM
About $2.70 in central Florida.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SLOweather on April 26, 2018, 06:56:45 PM
$3.46 yesterday at Costco here in SLO.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 26, 2018, 10:13:39 PM
Just made a 2,400 mile round trip. Further west I went the higher the prices. Gas was around $3.20 for 85 octane Utah and western Colorado, 87-88 octane was $3.35. Here its running about $2.75 for 87 octane.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on April 27, 2018, 08:03:06 AM
South Alabama varying around $2.60...it's the "summer tourist rip-off price increase season".  :evil:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 27, 2018, 09:11:35 AM
Yeah, I'm heading to CO and NE for reunion this summer, I'm sure I'll find some discomfort along the way. I used to have a boat on the lake and the marina price was always at least 10-20 cents per gallon more, they had us by the throat, you can't carry 70 gallons of gas down to the boat.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 27, 2018, 12:28:40 PM
Actually Texas will rebate the tax on gas used off road, but I never remembered to keep receipts etc. It would have added up at $.20 per gallon and I used a whole lot of gallons, 70 gallons every time I filled up and that was pretty regular - ha.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on May 01, 2018, 06:55:18 PM
$2.34 at Wal-Mart here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on May 02, 2018, 12:39:38 PM
$2.51 at Murphys/WalMart in Marble Falls today. HEB was their competition until they tore out the old store a few months ago, the new HEB is open and the new gas station will open soon, so hopefully it will bring it down a bit.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on May 04, 2018, 08:29:22 AM
I saw a news article the other day that mentioned something about how high gas prices will help the electric vehicle industry.<duhhh, really?>  I wonder how much pull Elon-wasisname has with the oil companies....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on May 04, 2018, 08:40:19 AM
Ours came down a penny or two yesterday. I was watching Nova last night about batteries and I believe they quoted Bill Gates saying if you took all the batteries in the world they would only power the requirements for the world for 10 min, so I don't think the fossil fuel industry is concerned.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Farmtalk on May 18, 2018, 04:02:01 AM
Gas prices vary quite a bit where I live. They differ by as much as 25 cents within just a couple of miles.

West Virginia has always had a high gas tax, so when I travel to Virginia, it is nice paying almost 50 cents less.  8-)

Closest station to my house is $2.67, was $2.79 last week.
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Post by: SLOweather on May 18, 2018, 08:22:32 AM
$3.539 yesterday at Costco here in SLO.
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Post by: stevebrtx on May 18, 2018, 08:27:55 AM
I had to go into Austin yesterday and think I saw $2.69 so it's creeping.
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Post by: PaulMy on May 18, 2018, 09:03:39 AM
I paid C$1.349/lr as expected coming to our May 2-4 weekend which I think is over $5/gal.  That is from under $1.10 a couple of weeks ago, and within a couple of cents of the highest we've ever had - http://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/05/18/gas-prices-victoria-long-weekend/

Not enjoying!
Paul
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Post by: jgillett on May 18, 2018, 10:24:22 AM
Arco $2.95, Costco $2.85.
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Post by: ocala on May 18, 2018, 02:26:56 PM
I paid C$1.349/lr as expected coming to our May 2-4 weekend which I think is over $5/gal.  That is from under $1.10 a couple of weeks ago, and within a couple of cents of the highest we've ever had - http://toronto.citynews.ca/2018/05/18/gas-prices-victoria-long-weekend/

Not enjoying!
Paul
Why is it that when you cross the border the price nearly doubles?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on May 19, 2018, 09:39:51 AM
Thursday night, Troy, Alabama...2.49
Friday afternoon (yesterday), Luverne, Alabama...2.59
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on July 21, 2018, 04:19:57 PM
We're down to $2.50 at Murphy's today. Hope it keeps going that way, I have to go to Colo and Neb next month for family reunion. Actually, I don't even care if the price is lower, if it's just cooler it will be worth it, we've already had 9 days 100+ this month plus 4 back in June, a real TX heat storm this year.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: DRoberts on July 21, 2018, 06:33:52 PM
$2.75-2.80 in our area, which is rural NW Kansas
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Post by: stevebrtx on July 21, 2018, 06:41:56 PM
How "NW"? My X was from just W of Oberlin, made many a trip out there, but long time ago now.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 22, 2018, 11:42:04 AM
Well, a 2,400 mile round trip, TX/NM/CO/NE/KS/OK/TX and I think the highest was $2.76, so not a bad year for travel. It was a family reunion in NE, but the roads were a trip back in memory like Raton Pass when it was a 2 lane goat trail. As a kid in the late 40's we did the NE to Denver trip in our '36 Plymouth on hot dangerous two lane roads with a canvas water bag hanging off the front bumper - things sure have changed. The worst this year was Oklahoma City, their roads are still in the goat trail era!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 20, 2018, 03:14:53 PM
Wow, Happy Thanksgiving! I filled up today at $2.07. I'd have filled up a jerry can if I had one -ha. I'm headed down to San Antonio for Turkey day and thought it would be good to have some fresh juice.
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Post by: ocala on November 20, 2018, 06:22:30 PM
Not quite that low here, 2.22, but it's dropping everyday.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 23, 2018, 08:49:37 AM
I was in San Antonio yesterday and on the way down saw $2.00 and they said one place down there was at $1.97, so it was a real "thanksgiving".
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on November 23, 2018, 03:08:59 PM
2.18 :-)
It has never got below $2 here. 2.01 was the lowest it ever got.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 23, 2018, 04:30:19 PM
Ha, that's why they call Texas God's country?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: zackdog on November 27, 2018, 04:31:03 PM
Consider yourselves lucky, just filled up with regular @ $2.92 a gallon. ](*,)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: zeppline on November 27, 2018, 07:33:56 PM
I have never seen the price that low. regular going for $3.21 today. We get our gas from the big state to the west, lot's of tax.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 28, 2018, 07:38:08 AM
Mapquest is only one that reports gas prices here. Currently $2.26 gallon
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Post by: ValentineWeather on November 28, 2018, 07:53:37 AM
I have never seen the price that low. regular going for $3.21 today. We get our gas from the big state to the west, lot's of tax.

Noticed it was surprisingly high at Vegas during summer wedding trip.  It was even little high along interstate Utah and didn't come down until we reached Grand Junction Colorado. Nevada is getting more California like every election with the big influx of residents fleeing the Golden State, get use to it. 
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Post by: BeaverMeadow on November 28, 2018, 08:49:48 AM
From gasbuddy--

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Post by: WeatherHost on November 28, 2018, 09:09:30 AM
Been a very, very long time since I paid over $3, can't even remember when  It hasn't been as long since I paid closer to $1 and there was a point in the last 15 years when I thought it might go under $1 for the first time in many years.

Currently hovering around $2

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 28, 2018, 09:34:17 AM
Lowest gas prices I remember growing up was late 60's, we were living along the Gulf coast near all the refineries in Houston area, gas wars were common.
The lowest I saw was .11 cents a gallon, this was even cheap then and why I still remember. Course minimum wage ($1.40)  and inflation was much lower in 1967 (.11 ) cents is equivalent to about (.80) cents now.
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Post by: ocala on November 28, 2018, 06:38:07 PM
2.12  :-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on November 29, 2018, 08:15:35 PM
Consider yourselves lucky, just filled up with regular @ $2.92 a gallon. ](*,)

Really.  In Stillwater, today, Thursday evening, saw gas at $1.96 at Murphy's by the east side Wal-Mart.  But that is high compared to Oklahoma City where the lowest is at $1.76.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 30, 2018, 04:43:41 PM
Being such a gorgeous day I got out the '96 Mark VIII and motored into Burnet/Marble Falls/Kingsland to give the folks some eyecandy - ha. Filled up at Murphy's for $1.95 HoHoHo. I got my inspection/plates yesterday and only drove it 528 miles since last inspection in 2017. The Mark and I are aging gracefully together - ha.
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Post by: OldAlaskaGuy on November 30, 2018, 06:18:07 PM
$3.45/ Gal in Grass Valley. Between Sacramento and Lake Tahoe.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 30, 2018, 06:24:59 PM
Today
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Post by: stevebrtx on November 30, 2018, 06:29:57 PM
My Gchildren live in SCcalif and I keep telling them to get out, but you know what telling kids is like?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: OldAlaskaGuy on November 30, 2018, 07:00:53 PM
Moving out of here after the first of the year. I need to keep my savings to live on not pay for a bullet train that will never be built.   8-[
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on December 01, 2018, 03:26:25 AM
My Gchildren live in SCcalif and I keep telling them to get out, but you know what telling kids is like?

This California family got tired of California, sold their home and moved to Oklahoma on 10 acres of land near the edge of my town. 
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WX7Euyvtv8&feature=share[/youtube]
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on December 01, 2018, 10:40:53 AM
May have bottomed out.
Hit 2.11 then back up to 2.12
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on December 04, 2018, 09:29:45 PM
Consider yourselves lucky, just filled up with regular @ $2.92 a gallon. ](*,)

Really.  In Stillwater, today, Thursday evening, saw gas at $1.96 at Murphy's by the east side Wal-Mart.  But that is high compared to Oklahoma City where the lowest is at $1.76.

Today it's running around $1.88 here in Tulsa.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: OldAlaskaGuy on December 05, 2018, 11:27:43 AM
At least not $7.00/gal  (eq) as in Europe
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on December 05, 2018, 06:25:56 PM
At least not $7.00/gal  (eq) as in Europe

The people in France are rioting in the streets of Paris over $6.49/gallon fuel after a major tax hike.

By the way, love the EMD F-unit avatar.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 05, 2018, 07:00:15 PM
$2.16 gallon here.

Yes I've followed the France civil unrest rioting in the streets, these same people who choose socialism and elected a socialist government are now unhappy with skyrocketing prices.  What did they think would happen? How many examples of failure do they need.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on December 05, 2018, 07:05:35 PM
these same people who choose socialism and elected a socialist government are now unhappy with skyrocketing prices.  What did they think would happen? How many examples of failure do they need.
=D&gt;
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on December 06, 2018, 01:44:55 AM
To get back on track, gas is now down to $1.91 at Murphy's and at the Wal-Mart station on the north side--Stillwater.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on December 06, 2018, 02:03:45 AM
To get back on track
It is on track. That's the point.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on December 15, 2018, 10:18:23 AM
Party's over. Back up to 2.17. :sad:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: 92merc on December 15, 2018, 11:43:49 AM
$2.29 in North Dakota.  It was a slow decline here.  Just dropped the last dime yesterday.

#2 oil producer in the continent.  But no refineries near here.  So we're usually a bit above the national average.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on December 15, 2018, 05:42:25 PM
Party's over. Back up to 2.17. :sad:

It's down again here now $1.87. 
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Post by: stevebrtx on December 15, 2018, 06:10:24 PM
$1.90 today in TX most are $1.99 or below.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on December 18, 2018, 08:23:08 PM
Down again to $1.85 at Murphy's in Stillwater.  Most other stations in town have it at $1.89.  The price of oil has taken a dive to under $50 a barrel, so more gas price declines will probably come.  The price drop came from report of inventories at the U.S. oil storage hub of Cushing, Oklahoma having risen more than 1 million barrels from Dec. 11 to 14.

Speaking of Cushing, I took a Sunday afternoon drive to there.  It's just 25 miles away.  I saw the town's large prison south of town for the first time. Then went downtown and saw the traffic lights still flashing red at every intersection as if sadly signaling the town is still trying to recover from the November 2016 earthquake of 5.0 magnitude.  Many old stores were damaged at least a little. 1 or 2 buildings had to be leveled.  Despite its famous oil tank farms, Cushing was already slowly declining before the earthquake.    On the way back home, I turned north too soon and came upon a bunch of oil tank farms spread out across the countryside before finding my way to Highway 18 and home.  I didn't know so many tanks were north of Cushing, having previously thought most of them were just to the south of town.   Merry Christmas at the gas pump. 

One of the oil tank farms just to the north of Cushing.
(http://okie.world/photos/Cushing.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on December 18, 2018, 10:42:52 PM
WTI and Brent crude have nosedived recently.
WTI at this moment is down to $46.38/bbl, lowest in almost two years; seriously falling for the last two months, from a ~$76 high in Oct.

The Russians, the largest OPEC producers, have ramped up their production this month (Vlad Puty sending a msg to his BFF?), and American fracking ops have been pushing their record production numbers up too.
If it goes much lower there's a good chance of another 'oil bust', like in 1985*, et al. Approaching the $40/bbl mark most fracking ops are going way below their breakeven cost point, at that level some of them will begin shut-in procedures and begin laying off staff. New exploratory wells, workovers, and wells nearing production will have ops suspended.

* 1985, I remember it well. It was maybe the worst Texas recession I've ever seen, the hit to Houston was incredible. The housing boom statewide was over in a few months, real estate prices dropped like stones and didn't recover for a couple of years.
Even at home in the Valley, a brand new, just opened shopping mall, the first major one there, remained nearly empty during the Xmas season. Made for some great uncrowded shopping trips.

https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=@CL.1 (https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=@CL.1)
http://nbr.com/2018/12/18/oil-sinks-to-15-month-low-below-48-on-rising-us-russian-output/ (http://nbr.com/2018/12/18/oil-sinks-to-15-month-low-below-48-on-rising-us-russian-output/)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 19, 2018, 05:19:22 PM
$2.13
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Post by: stevebrtx on December 20, 2018, 12:00:38 PM
Our local price war between HEB and Murphys got it down to $1.98 and I filled up again. But generally this is a great Christmas for folks traveling. In years past I'd have loved it, now my travels are into town to get a 6pak - and they don't seem to have beer wars?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on December 25, 2018, 05:07:31 PM
Merry Christmas from someone/somebody/ something.
Dropped to 1.99 here! Have never seen it below $2 here.
Uncharted territory.  :-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on December 26, 2018, 08:21:09 AM
Happy Holidays to all.
On Christmas Day noticed $1.81.9 reg gas prices on the far NW of San Antonio (IIRC, diesel was ~$2.14).
WTI crude was fixing to fall through $42/bbl, but is up slightly this AM, at $43.14.
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Post by: stevebrtx on December 26, 2018, 08:39:30 AM
Yes, season's blessings on all. We were $1.84 in Marble Falls Christmas eve.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SWX on December 26, 2018, 08:36:15 PM
Paid $2.33 here last night, most gas prices in the area are a bit higher though, generally hovering between $2.39 and $2.49.

Last month I came across a gas station in Brooklyn charging well over $4.00 per gallon, that’s the highest I’ve ever seen in my (driving) life, more expensive than even Manhattan (of all places), I would’ve gotten out and pushed before paying that. You can still find cheap gas in/near NYC though, if you know where to look.
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Post by: ALITTLEweird1 on December 30, 2018, 05:04:45 PM
3.17 here
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Post by: vreihen on December 30, 2018, 05:29:20 PM
I saw $1.87 for unleaded driving through North Carolina today...in my diesel pickup with the going rate for diesel being $2.99 just about everywhere.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on December 31, 2018, 07:35:24 PM
Now at $1.75 at Murphy's as pictured.  It's my favorite place to get gas, since it's usually consistent about having the cheapest gas price in town and is on my side of town.  Happy New Year.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/gasprice.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on December 31, 2018, 08:25:42 PM
$2.00 here today. Lowest I've seen, I think since moving here in 2014.
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Post by: stevebrtx on January 01, 2019, 01:25:32 AM
I was in Marble Falls today $1.82 at Murphys - HAPPY NEW YEAR!
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Post by: gwwilk on January 01, 2019, 08:29:42 AM
According to Gas Buddy, $1.84 at Sam's and Costco here today.  $1.98 at the Shell 6 blocks from me...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SWX on January 06, 2019, 11:38:21 AM
Paid $2.19 last night. That’s the lowest price I’ve ever paid for gas, granted I’ve only been driving for 4 years.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 06, 2019, 11:46:19 AM
Ha, the other day when I was pumping at $1.82 and talking to the lady next to me and we were laughing about remembering when we were young and gas was $.25 per gallon. I always kept $.50 when out on a date just to be sure I could get enough gas to get home - ah, the good old days.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on January 06, 2019, 12:56:18 PM
I remember a trip to the 1966 Indianapolis 500 and filling up on 15¢ hamburgers during the weekend.
Prices 1966
Cost of a new home:    $23,300.00
Cost of a first-class stamp:    $0.05
Cost of a gallon of regular gas:    $0.32
Cost of a dozen eggs:    $0.60
Cost of a gallon of Milk:    $0.99
and I made $80 a week!

The big change was around 1973 when gas first went over a buck (an imperial gallon), and then they changed to litres so the price would not look so bad.  Now at just below or above C$1 /lr but has been at over $1.30 over the past year as well.

Enjoy,
Paul

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on January 06, 2019, 02:37:38 PM
Now at $1.75 at Murphy's as pictured.  It's my favorite place to get gas, since it's usually consistent about having the cheapest gas price in town and is on my side of town.  Happy New Year.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/gasprice.jpg)

There's a Walmart with a Murphys and a QuikTrip up the street from me who consistently try and best each other for gas prices.  For the most part QT sets the price in Tulsa because there are so many of them and they advertise guaranteed gasoline -- meaning that if any mechanical issues in your car can be attributed to gasoline, QT's gasoline -- then QT will pay for any repair cost incurred.

$1.75 here also.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on January 07, 2019, 04:37:29 AM
I remember a trip to the 1966 Indianapolis 500 and filling up on 15¢ hamburgers during the weekend.
Prices 1966
Cost of a new home:    $23,300.00

There's an old Dragnet episode (in color, so it was the late 60's  version) where Gannon is complaining to Friday that he just paid $8,000 for a new house ....  in LA.


I saw something odd in town the other day.  Some stations were at around $1.90 or a little less, others just a short distance away were over $2.00, some around $2.10.  I know there are always differences, but they're usually only a nickle or so, not a full 20 cents.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 09, 2019, 12:47:04 PM
$1.80 at Murphys today, looking good in the neighborhood.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on January 09, 2019, 12:58:41 PM
I need to go fill my truck. 32-gallon tank takes forever to use up in rural small towns. Even as a daily driver I might put 30 miles a week around town.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on January 09, 2019, 01:20:42 PM
I need to go fill my truck. 32-gallon tank takes forever to use up in rural small towns. Even as a daily driver I might put 30 miles a week around town.

Heh, I once had a 4WD PowerWagon with dual tanks that held 100 gallons of gas. Used to zip across the border for 20 cent/gal Pemex to feed that beast (it got 9-10mpg IIRC).
My oldest daughter was beginning to drive, and bugged me constantly to use that (cool) pickup to go to school. Gave in.
So, one day I get a call in the afternoon-- 'Daddy, I ran out of gas...'. I was momentarily dumbfounded, a hundred gallons of fuel in a couple of days going to HS a few blocks away? WTF? Yikes, instant grounding. No more SPI beach trips for you, young lady.   :shock: #-o
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: zackdog on January 09, 2019, 06:28:04 PM
Just filled up today, $2.47 a gallon.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on January 12, 2019, 10:11:46 AM
Just filled up today, $2.47 a gallon.
$2.47????  What was the situation?  Is it normal for the area to be that much higher than other areas?

I bought some gas in Montgomery, AL at Costco the other day for $1.70.  Locally, 50 miles south it's still lingering around $2.00.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on January 12, 2019, 11:27:43 AM
Looking through some old image files for something else and I stumbled across these:



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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 12, 2019, 12:08:54 PM
I moved to Chicago in '77 starting my career as a road warrior (sales) and was required to keep logs for my expense account. I started using little 2X4 spiral bound note pads. I didn't enter actual cost per gallon, but the data is there to calculate. I've continued to keep logs for each of my vehicles so I have logs of the gas crunches from the Late 70's ($10 per customer) and my MXN adventure (MXD per Liter) and ever once in a while when bored I look back through them. I guess it's a curse of old age, "remembering when".

Many of us here are at an age when we spend more time looking into the rear view mirror than looking out the windshield.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on January 12, 2019, 12:40:06 PM
I did it back then because we could still deduct gas taxes on our 1040 Schedule As.  I don't even know if that's possible now since I haven't itemized in decades.  I stopped after I no longer had a mortgage to deduct the interest.

But I still note the odometers and trip-ometer on every gas receipt and enter it into Quicken along with the gallons and per gallon price just in case I ever want to look back.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on January 12, 2019, 12:42:47 PM
I remember my parents complain when gas hit 55 cents
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: zackdog on January 12, 2019, 02:25:56 PM
Just filled up today, $2.47 a gallon.
$2.47????  What was the situation?  Is it normal for the area to be that much higher than other areas?

I bought some gas in Montgomery, AL at Costco the other day for $1.70.  Locally, 50 miles south it's still lingering around $2.00.

Just one of the perks of living in the mountains near a ski resort. ](*,)  Looked at Gas buddy, prices in Denver, 70 miles away, are running about $1.81.

Mark
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 12, 2019, 02:51:25 PM
I grew up in Denver, had a condo at Breckenridge in the late '70's so I've skied most of the areas and enjoyed them in the summers, you are living in privileged country my friend, so a little "tariff" on the beauty is worth it, keeps the riff raff out - ha.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on January 15, 2019, 07:13:56 AM
Turnaround underway?

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_gnd_dcus_r20_w.htm

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on January 15, 2019, 06:16:45 PM
Alamogordo had $1.79 regular last week
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on January 15, 2019, 06:26:14 PM
Strange things going on.
Stations that last week had gas for 1.95 are now 2.14 while other stations that were 2.08 last week are now 1.93??
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 16, 2019, 09:52:07 AM
Looks like we bottomed out at $1.80 and are back up at $1.85 again yesterday. I was just looking at the Mexico forum where I used to live, their prices are up 64% in pesos while ours are down 33% over the last 3 years. And now they're having shortages and everyone is nervous about the supply.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on February 17, 2019, 03:38:55 PM
Filled up a couple of evenings ago at the Floresville, TX Murphy/Walmart for $1.859/gal-87oct regular w/walmart 'card' discount ($1.889 actual posted price). New SUV gets PFG gas mileage. Wish there were EV/hybrid SUVs available now, with solar charging at home, operation costs would be near $0.00/mi.

HEB was $1.899, other 'convenience' places (never ever shop at 'em myself) at $1.959. In Karnes City/Kenedy and other towns prices were $1.899 to $1.959. Was in San Antonio recently and forgot to check most of the usual places I look at for gas prices, think they were in that range.

Great evenings for driving with the moonroof open, mostly clear, a waxing 3/4+ moon just northeast of Orion overhead on my heading, good music on the SiriusXM; ahhhh, memories of a convertible in the '60-70's and 8-track cassettes.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on February 17, 2019, 04:17:34 PM
Cheapest gas I've seen in many years in Los Lunas, NM at $1.66.
Not for long though.

The wife took a picture just to send it to her brother.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on February 18, 2019, 08:21:14 PM
We've been a bit higher than surrounding areas lately...been hovering around 1.95.  A couple of days ago it bumped up to 2.00.  Then, today, it ramped on up to 2.06.   The Iranians rattling sabers or something?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on February 19, 2019, 10:20:43 AM
Cheapest gas I've seen in many years in Los Lunas, NM at $1.66.
Not for long though.

The wife took a picture just to send it to her brother.

That's the lowest price/gal I've heard of in years.
Heard a local TV news comment that pump prices were down because of an oversupply of refined gasoline/diesel. My cynical side thinks it may just be a ginned up political diversion/distraction.
After all, the WTI crude price has been up lately, ~$53/bbl. Yet a few months ago WTI crude was falling to ~$41/bbl, and pump prices then were 15-30 cents/gal higher than now.
Around here, a jump in crude prices is usually reflected almost immediately in higher prices at the pump, while a reduction in crude takes weeks to trickle down...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CNYWeather on February 19, 2019, 12:13:08 PM
I paid $2.43 in Central NY on Sunday. Lowest it's been in a long time.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 19, 2019, 02:18:57 PM
Gas is 2.29 and the govenor just proposed a 20 cent gas hike for roads, schools, and health care.

I am so torn.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on February 24, 2019, 03:34:28 AM
Gas is 2.29 and the govenor just proposed a 20 cent gas hike for roads, schools, and health care.

I am so torn.
Gas here is $1.97 at Murphy's and Wal-Mart.
The governor is asking for a lot so is asking a lot to pay for it.  In Oklahoma, last summer the gas tax went up 3 cents to help pay to give teachers a good raise.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 27, 2019, 09:52:22 AM
We took a jump a few days ago, filled up at Murphy's yesterday for $2.05, still not bad all things considered.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on February 27, 2019, 06:47:19 PM
Major jump here.
2.49???? From 2.24.
Bastards
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on March 04, 2019, 07:56:57 AM
Looks like it creeped up to 2.21 over the last week or so at our largest station.  I also noticed that of the four stations in our town, three of them are now MARATHON.  :?  The large MARATHON is the highest priced...the other three are/were(?) at 2.19 as of Friday.  The fourth one, a Tom Thumb store, is (I think) still a Citgo.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: zackdog on April 16, 2019, 08:55:30 AM
Memorial Day is over a month away and gas has hit $3.00 here. \:D/

Mark
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 16, 2019, 09:01:57 AM
$2.39 here yesterday at Murphy's.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on August 20, 2019, 07:34:03 AM
Lowest [87 octane] gas prices around here seem to be in Beeville, TX, where I saw a range of $2.19-2.40/gal [diesel ~$0.40 more/g].
US Hwy 181 ranges: $2.30-2.50. Suspect that prices in Corpus Christi are probably closer to $2.
I filled up at the Beeville HEB @$2.24/g. I don't buy at unknown pumps if possible; even if 'cheaper', not worth the hassle-- bad gas, cheating measures, stolen account #s, etc. BTDT, EG: those ubiquitous 'convenience' stores, haven't set foot in one in decades.
[prices given rounded up from that irritating $2.18.9 BS ]

Waiting on an 'affordable', large-size, EV/PHEV SUV; plug-in electric is the way to go, the future. With home solar/wind power for recharging it.
The Tesla Model X [a mid-size SUV] is very nice, but too small [for 6'4" me], and just can't justify forking over ~$100K+ for a vehicle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_X (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_X)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 20, 2019, 01:40:12 PM
Ah, "cheating" - or just a dumb sucker? - just returned from my annual trip to Denver, most prices were around $2.50/gal. However I pulled into a station in Raton and it was totally overrun with cars, seemingly each with 6 people minimum, all piling out to go inside and get cokes etc. I just wanted to gas-n-go. When I finally got to a pump I did the credit card thing, jammed the hose into the tank and hit the button and went to wash the windshield. As I returned from the front it was just clicking off and I pulled the hose and looked at the price $59.63??? I drive a Jeep with an 18 gal tank. It was then I looked at the price per gallon and at the left hand button I'm used to pushing and yes, it was SUPER ROCKET FUEL PLATINUM INFUSED DIAMOND GRADE whatever at $3.93/gal. Yes, they put the Super button on the left, the Middle grade on the right end and hid the regular in the middle. I thought ok, you got your sucker for the day, I'll not be stopping in again. But, the old Jeep did fly over Raton Pass - ha.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on August 20, 2019, 03:19:22 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn. It's about $2.20 a gallon.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 20, 2019, 03:21:25 PM
Is that with, or without tax? - musn't forget the gov you know?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on August 20, 2019, 03:22:40 PM
Out the door...May even be cheaper than that, I don't really pay attention.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: AWL on August 20, 2019, 03:34:39 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn. It's about $2.20 a gallon.


Wondering your MPG versus gas? We seem to lose ~3mpg at 10% ethanol. We still can get 100% gas at every station.


Doug

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on August 20, 2019, 03:44:07 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn. It's about $2.20 a gallon.


Wondering your MPG versus gas? We seem to lose ~3mpg at 10% ethanol. We still can get 100% gas at every station.


Doug
Running E10 is garbage, I'd never do it if you have pure gas available, and many places don't now-a-days. E85 here is actually about E82, I run ~E65 so as not to over-tax my injector's duty cycle. My gas mileage is still about the same.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on August 20, 2019, 05:36:46 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn. It's about $2.20 a gallon.

I bought the ultimate flex-fuel vehicle back in May.  It runs on coal, hydro, solar, natural gas, diesel, gasoline, methane, hydrogen, nuclear, and even wind.  My daily commute dropped from $3.20/day to $0.52/day, and I haven't visited a gas station since April because I fill up at home every night with only premium electrons.  My DW picked her own new car up a few weeks later, and her commute has dropped from $400/month to $74/month.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on August 20, 2019, 05:58:03 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn. It's about $2.20 a gallon.

I bought the ultimate flex-fuel vehicle back in May.  It runs on coal, hydro, solar, natural gas, diesel, gasoline, methane, hydrogen, nuclear, and even wind.  My daily commute dropped from $3.20/day to $0.52/day, and I haven't visited a gas station since April because I fill up at home every night with only premium electrons.  My DW picked her own new car up a few weeks later, and her commute has dropped from $400/month to $74/month.....
Very funny. I didn't buy the kit to save money, I bought it to complement my motor's 11.5 to 1 compression ratio and my DME's ability to advance my ignition timing due to now running on 100 octane vs 91, and a cooler running motor just as some gravy on top. Just a tiny difference....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on August 20, 2019, 06:03:52 PM
Ah, "cheating" - or just a dumb sucker? - ...
 and looked at the price $59.63??? I drive a Jeep with an 18 gal tank. It was then I looked at the price per gallon and at the left hand button I'm used to pushing and yes, it was SUPER ROCKET FUEL PLATINUM INFUSED DIAMOND GRADE whatever at $3.93/gal. Yes, they put the Super button on the left, the Middle grade on the right end and hid the regular in the middle. I thought ok, you got your sucker for the day, I'll not be stopping in again. But, the old Jeep did fly over Raton Pass - ha.

Heheh, amazing the trickery some businesses will go to to shaft someone. That's a new one to me, but I doubt that HEB, Wally, Sams are going to pull that carp. Like I wrote, it's those so-called 'convenience' stores, often of dubious ownership, that'll screw you.
My own was at one of those places, right at the SW end of the Galveston seawall. I was heading for my 'temporary' home/beach house at the West End very late Sunday after a weekend trip home *. My 400ci gasguzzler was very thirsty, so I pulled in on fumes.
Had a proven 24gal tank [don't ask, I did always carry a 2.5/g jug in the trunk...]. Started  the pump, did windows, check underhood, got to the pump.
It's cruising along past 28gal, went to ~32gal before "full". WTF! Had to check my anger, and just went in and paid the clerk with the ME accent and attitude. Having lived on island off and on for years, I knew that making a scene about it would get me [armed as usual] an 0'darkthirty trip to the slammer or worse. Knowing how corrupt Galveston was, I had no chance or choice [worked with BOI's, they had some tales].

* I changed my route/commute, started going through Freeport, Surfside and up Follets Island, across the San Luis Pass tollbridge and 'home', a very nice sunrise drive.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on August 20, 2019, 06:16:15 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn. It's about $2.20 a gallon.

You realize that running on ethanol/alcohol could be bad for your engine? Even if supposedly designed 'safe' for it.

More interesting is that it makes you a prime 'welfare queen', yeah, one of those. Since the whole corn-based ethanol fuel deal is extremely heavily subsidized by the federal government [and, iirc, some states].
And the whole scheme actually costs more than dino fuel to produce per gallon, though it could have been different, except for the politicians screwing it up.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on August 20, 2019, 06:40:39 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn. It's about $2.20 a gallon.

You realize that running on ethanol/alcohol could be bad for your engine? Even if supposedly designed 'safe' for it.


More interesting is that it makes you a prime 'welfare queen', yeah, one of those.

Really? Why don't you tell that to Brazil that even way back 2013 94% of the cars sold were on corn. Don't hear them bitchin', nor anyone in the States for that matter...

As far as 'welfare queen', I have no idea what that is nor do I care.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on August 20, 2019, 06:45:01 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn. It's about $2.20 a gallon.

I bought the ultimate flex-fuel vehicle back in May.  It runs on coal, hydro, solar, natural gas, diesel, gasoline, methane, hydrogen, nuclear, and even wind.  My daily commute dropped from $3.20/day to $0.52/day, and I haven't visited a gas station since April because I fill up at home every night with only premium electrons.  My DW picked her own new car up a few weeks later, and her commute has dropped from $400/month to $74/month.....

Dang, I'm jealous. What kind of EV/PHEV did y'all get? If you don't mind stating it.

I seriously looked at some Chevy Volts, but they were just too small for me, and my usages. The Volt is based on the compact-class [GM Delta II platform] Chevy Cruze chassis. Great vehicle though, jes luv those screens and data displays. My [fairly new, low mile] SUV has a bunch of fancy, top-of-the-line electronics goodies, 8 months on I'm still learning stuff.
I just consider the Teslas currently overpriced [justifiably so], for me, and won't buy Japanese vehicles if a choice.
Need an SUV [much prefer over a pickup, although a pickup is better for a few jobs].
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on August 20, 2019, 07:02:23 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn.

Do you have to shuck it first?

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on August 20, 2019, 07:08:22 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn.

Do you have to shuck it first?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on August 20, 2019, 07:13:11 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn.

Do you have to shuck it first?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34
Dam dude I was just looking for a rim shot emoticon.
Beat me to it.  :-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on August 20, 2019, 07:22:55 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn.

Do you have to shuck it first?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShTJ90fC34
Dam dude I was just looking for a rim shot emoticon.
Beat me to it.  :-)
Snooze ya lose.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jstx on August 20, 2019, 08:00:37 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn. It's about $2.20 a gallon.

You realize that running on ethanol/alcohol could be bad for your engine? Even if supposedly designed 'safe' for it.


More interesting is that it makes you a prime 'welfare queen', yeah, one of those.

Really? Why don't you tell that to Brazil that even way back 2013 94% of the cars sold were on corn. Don't hear them bitchin', nor anyone in the States for that matter...

As far as 'welfare queen', I have no idea what that is nor do I care.

Really?
Brazil's ethanol fuel comes almost entirely from sugarcane, not corn; a plant that is 6-700% more efficient a source of ethanol-based fuel production. Brazil also stopped their government subsidization of E-fuel production and distribution some time ago.
I spent most of my life surrounded by Valley sugarcane fields, the dang burns were h3ll on the pool water, with all the ashfall.
Yes, US sugarcane is also heavily government-subsidized. That's why your grocery store prices on sugar and sugar-containing stuff is higher than elsewhere, and a major reason why we still embargo Cuba [and why so much lower quality, cheap corn syrup is substituted]. Yeah, I've known and worked with those dreaded Cubans; educated, smart, some refugees, some nationals [usually in other countries], good, decent folk.

The US still maintains it's huge ethanol government subsidies, direct and indirect. IOW, a 'tax' that we all pay to a relative few businesses and people [mostly big ag] who suck it all up.
Check the EWG.org website for just the many million$/billion$ of farm subsidy payment$ we make [little of it goes to those much yammered about 'family farms', most goes to the big ag-biz]. The ethanol production subsidy info is out there, but harder to find; even the gas stations get subsidy payments for the ethanol tanks and pumps.

As far as you're not knowing about "As far as 'welfare queen', I have no idea what that is nor do I care.":
You're surely being deliberately disingenuous. Everybody since the days of Raygun knows what that is.
Sort of, they just don't know or realize who the REAL 'welfare queens' are. The real corporate ones who take many billion$ and trillions of US taxpayer dollars each quarter/year.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on August 20, 2019, 08:27:33 PM
About six months ago I put a conversion kit on my car and I now run on corn. It's about $2.20 a gallon.

You realize that running on ethanol/alcohol could be bad for your engine? Even if supposedly designed 'safe' for it.


More interesting is that it makes you a prime 'welfare queen', yeah, one of those.

Really? Why don't you tell that to Brazil that even way back 2013 94% of the cars sold were on corn. Don't hear them bitchin', nor anyone in the States for that matter...

As far as 'welfare queen', I have no idea what that is nor do I care.

Really?
Brazil's ethanol fuel comes almost entirely from sugarcane, not corn; a plant that is 6-700% more efficient a source of ethanol-based fuel production. Brazil also stopped their government subsidization of E-fuel production and distribution some time ago.
I spent most of my life surrounded by Valley sugarcane fields, the dang burns were h3ll on the pool water, with all the ashfall.
Yes, US sugarcane is also heavily government-subsidized. That's why your grocery store prices on sugar and sugar-containing stuff is higher than elsewhere, and a major reason why we still embargo Cuba [and why so much lower quality, cheap corn syrup is substituted]. Yeah, I've known and worked with those dreaded Cubans; educated, smart, some refugees, some nationals [usually in other countries], good, decent folk.

The US still maintains it's huge ethanol government subsidies, direct and indirect. IOW, a 'tax' that we all pay to a relative few businesses and people [mostly big ag] who suck it all up.
Check the EWG.org website for just the many million$/billion$ of farm subsidy payment$ we make [little of it goes to those much yammered about 'family farms', most goes to the big ag-biz]. The ethanol production subsidy info is out there, but harder to find; even the gas stations get subsidy payments for the ethanol tanks and pumps.

As far as you're not knowing about "As far as 'welfare queen', I have no idea what that is nor do I care.":
You're surely being deliberately disingenuous. Everybody since the days of Raygun knows what that is.
Sort of, they just don't know or realize who the REAL 'welfare queens' are. The real corporate ones who take many billion$ and trillions of US taxpayer dollars each quarter/year.
JC, WTF's your point??? You babble like.... :roll:

As far as 'welfare queen', I'm assuming it's meant as a derogatory term of myself. News for ya, you know NOTHING of me or what my contribution has been to society. Keep your uninformed, opinionated garbage about me to yourself.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on August 21, 2019, 06:47:08 AM
Dang, I'm jealous. What kind of EV/PHEV did y'all get? If you don't mind stating it.

No PHEV here!  We bought two 100% battery (BEV) cars.  We were spending $500-$600/month on fuel before the switch, and our home electric bill only went up $175/month charging both cars now.

Mine is a 24-month lease return BMW i3, with 14K miles on the clock and two years of factory warranty (and 6 years of battery warranty) left.  Original purchaser dropped about $50K for it, and I stole it for $15K.  If you don't need a warranty, there's 2014 models in the used market for ~$12K if you shop around.  My reason for wanting it is that I am tired of seeing rust.  BMW built the i3 using a 100% carbon fiber tub, CFRP body panels, and aluminum frame.  I don't think there is much steel in the car outside of the brake rotors and lug nuts.  Where else can you buy a mid-engine, carbon fiber, European-built car for $15K that will possibly last the rest of my life?

DW wanted something bigger, so she bought the only 2019 Kia Niro BEV that they sold in our area.  It and the Hyundai Kona BEV use the same drivetrain platform, and are pretty equivalent to the Tesla Model 3 in terms of price and range.  Korean cars have a bad rep because of the early junk they shipped, but their current stuff seems to be well built.  With the $7,500 federal incentive, $2,000 state instant rebate at the dealership towards a down payment, and only scheduled maintenance being a two-year brake fluid flush (because they never get used thanks to regenerative braking), the ROI happens pretty quickly.  I can't pry the key fob out of her hands after three months of ownership, and she already has 6K miles on the clock.  The only pitfall is that they are only FWD, with no AWD option.

Whatever you do, stay away from the Nissan Leaf.  They turn a lot of people away from the EV transition due to questionable engineering choices.  My DW works with several local power company employees, and they all complain about how crappy the Leafs were that they bought for company cars.

I still have a 4x4 diesel pickup and gas race car in the driveway for long trips or moving things, but neither of them have moved in two months or have needed fuel since April.  I'll probably drive the 4WD truck on snowy days in the winter, but the programmed departure time feature of the EV has me spoiled with always climbing into a 72 degree car so much now that I might have a hard time going back to the truck.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 21, 2019, 02:03:48 PM
This morning Murphy's in Marble Falls was $2.17, didn't check the super rocket fuel - ha.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on August 21, 2019, 06:07:42 PM
Sweet!  Gas has fallen below $2 again in Stillwater.  $1.99 at Murphy's.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on August 21, 2019, 06:18:26 PM
Sweet!  Gas has fallen below $2 again in Stillwater.  $1.99 at Murphy's.
That means it is on the way down for the rest of us.. Except California.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: zackdog on August 24, 2019, 10:27:14 AM
Stopped at local station on Thursday to put $10 into Forester to get me to Denver.  That was 3.33 gallons, $2.999 per gallon.  Filled up at Costco in Denver for $28.50 at $2.259 a gallon.

Hopefully after Labor Day, the price will come down locally.  Not holding my breath, though.

Mark
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on August 24, 2019, 10:33:22 AM
What I seemed have noticed is that the prices bottom out, then they quickly rise like 40 cents then slowly creep down again. It's been a pattern for a while now.
Three times I have seen them get close to $2, once to even $1.99, then they rise real quick.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: krojan on August 24, 2019, 01:01:48 PM
In Poland, today, a gallon of 95 octane gasoline costs 4.88 USD.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 26, 2019, 01:45:39 PM
Krojan, a question, on average how many miles a year does an "average" person drive in Poland? I know that's a very wide question, but as a round number I bought my car 12 years ago and since I've averaged 12,500 miles a year. Some of that was longer trips to/from Mexico when I lived there, but now I drive many more short trips into towns for shopping etc. but the average still seems to be somewhere near 12,000 miles per year. Just curious, having never visited your country I'm interested.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: krojan on August 26, 2019, 02:04:38 PM
I make about 10,000 miles a year, and this is probably the average one travels in Poland.
For me, commuting alone is 8,000 miles a year.
The average annual income in my country is 15384 USD gross.
Gasoline prices are similar across Europe, but average incomes are very different.
I have never been to your country.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 26, 2019, 02:13:30 PM
Thanks, that gives me a better picture. At that cost, it's a significant cost on average. I suppose one factor of course is the type of vehicle. Here in Texas we like big cars, trucks etc. I have an older small SUV which gets about 20mpg on average so not too bad. Of course lots of folks drive smaller cars with better mileage but I need this one to pull a trailer.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: krojan on August 26, 2019, 02:25:36 PM
20 mpg is 14.1 l / 100km, so it smokes like a dragon.
My car smokes about 5.6 l / 100km, so 50 mpg.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on August 26, 2019, 03:00:09 PM
Just looked back at odometer records I keep on gas fillups.  From July/August of 2014 until now, I've logged a little over 13,000 miles on both cars combined for an annual average of around 2,700 miles driven total.




Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: krojan on August 26, 2019, 04:01:47 PM
annual average of around 2,700 miles driven total.
So many miles a year my son rides a bike.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on September 01, 2019, 08:45:19 AM
Gas had gotten down to $2.21.

Today a new state of Alabama gasoline tax goes into effect...  .06 increase today to end up at .10 in the future.  Already with an .18 tax, that will eventually make a .28 tax per gallon.

Alabama does not have a lottery.  Over the years there have been political threats/warnings/conspiracies/whatevers that if Alabama didn't get a lottery that tax would have to go up.  The politicians held off long enough to at least get this gas tax instituted...now they'll probably let a lottery come in.  But, I'll betcha .10 a gallon that the gas tax stays on.  The government bean counters will be the last breathing roaches left when this country's economy crumbles.  The little weasel sitting at a desk in a government building sneaking dollars from your back pocket will make dang sure there's enough money to pay him/herself when things get hairy.   

Sorry, not in a good mood this morning.
Ed
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 01, 2019, 08:58:20 AM
I feel your pain. We're at .20 per gal here in TX with gas prices at $2.13 yesterday. Could be worse, Penn is at $.587 per gal state tax?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on September 16, 2019, 06:34:16 AM
I figger we've seen the lows for quite a while.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 16, 2019, 08:01:13 AM
Looks like we're $2.06 but with the Saudi thing probably right about this being the bottom.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: galfert on September 16, 2019, 09:10:34 AM
They are saying we will soon see upwards of $100/barrel. Amazing how that attack has affected half of Saudi oil but that only represents just about 5% of world supply, yet it is expected to significantly impact pricing. The Saudi's are calling the drone attack, believed to be from Iran, as a Pearl Harbor moment.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on September 16, 2019, 10:00:03 AM
Time to tap the Permian Basin
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on September 25, 2019, 09:18:40 PM
The price of gas Wednesday night, 9-25-2019, at Murphy's in Stillwater with a thunderstorm in the background two counties away.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/murphysgaspricesept25-2019.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on September 25, 2019, 09:36:35 PM
The price of gas Wednesday night, 9-25-2019, at Murphy's in Stillwater with a thunderstorm in the background two counties away.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/murphysgaspricesept25-2019.jpg)
Yeah about the same price here to your east in Tulsa.

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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 26, 2019, 07:25:59 AM
We'll see what it is in Del Rio on the border today, I'm heading down to Cuidad Acuna, MX to see if I can talk Bancomer into giving what's left of my money back to me?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 26, 2019, 07:35:33 PM
I filled up at the border for $2.33 a gal, I didn't check the prices in MX due to price per liter in pesos and the exchange rate for pesos is too complicated for me to deal with. When I lived there I'd just go in and say say doscientos por favor and drive until I needed to get more? The good news is that I'm now officially divorced from MX, 2 hours and a lot of help ended my (negative) "investment" in MX. But, it was a great adventure and I'd not change a thing - well, not much - ha.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 31, 2020, 06:02:00 PM
$1.99 yesterday at Murphys Marble Falls.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: DRoberts on January 31, 2020, 06:48:34 PM
$2.30 North central KS. In case anyone gives a damn.  :-)
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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on January 31, 2020, 06:55:52 PM
I'll care in a few months when I come up through KS on my way to NE for the annual family reunion, so just keep it at that level and I'll put it in the budget - ha.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on February 01, 2020, 07:15:27 AM
Roller coaster here in north central Florida.
Drops to 2.19 then up to 2.55.
Been doing this for a while.
Currently 2.21.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Waimarie on February 01, 2020, 03:37:34 PM
You are sooo lucky with your fuel prices.  We pay NZ$2.30 per LITRE :shock:

(Our $ is worth 65% of yours)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: DRoberts on February 01, 2020, 04:32:49 PM
You are sooo lucky with your fuel prices.  We pay NZ$2.30 per LITRE :shock:

(Our $ is worth 65% of yours)

Yep. Was not complaining. How much of cost per litre is tax, just for curiosity?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Waimarie on February 01, 2020, 05:45:57 PM
You are sooo lucky with your fuel prices.  We pay NZ$2.30 per LITRE :shock:

(Our $ is worth 65% of yours)

Yep. Was not complaining. How much of cost per litre is tax, just for curiosity?

"Currently, just under a third of the pump price is the actual cost of refined petrol while about 50% is tax i.e. 63.784 cents per litre in fixed excise (not including the 10c Auckland Regional Fuel Tax), plus the Emissions Trading Scheme levy (approximately 6.2cpl) and GST (NZ has the sixth lowest fuel tax in the world; in many OECD countries, taxes account for around two-thirds of the price). This is important when monitoring movements in the international price of fuel: if the benchmark price changes by 10%, the pump price might adjust by 30% of that, i.e. only 3% (subject to the exchange rate). Despite our high taxes, New Zealand has some of the lowest fuel prices in the Western world."

https://www.aa.co.nz/cars/owning-a-car/fuel-prices-and-types/how-petrol-prices-are-calculated/ (https://www.aa.co.nz/cars/owning-a-car/fuel-prices-and-types/how-petrol-prices-are-calculated/)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: K5GHS on February 01, 2020, 07:34:30 PM
Saw $1.95 for 87 at a QT on 121 in McKinney TX  yesterday.  Most places are still $2.01-$2.05 though.  The Exxon I fueled the company truck at this morning was $2.05.  When the whole possibility for war with Iran was going on, it was $2.35.

But compared to California, its cheaper.  I hadn't seen $1.anything in California since I was a teenager.

Then again I only have to drive about a half hour north to see oil pumps slowly moving up and down in open pasture land as well, so that's probably a lot of it....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on February 02, 2020, 07:58:18 AM
You are sooo lucky with your fuel prices.  We pay NZ$2.30 per LITRE :shock:

(Our $ is worth 65% of yours)
Feel sorry for you guys over there. That's just ridiculous!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on February 02, 2020, 10:49:19 AM
2.09 (average) in Northeast Oklahoma. Here it seems QT dictates the price. Except when they compete with Murphys at a Walmart.

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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on February 02, 2020, 11:17:32 AM
We are currently at C$1.019 to $1.040 /ltr for regular which is at the lower range of the past year.


Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on February 03, 2020, 12:13:49 AM
2.09 (average) in Northeast Oklahoma. Here it seems QT dictates the price. Except when they compete with Murphys at a Walmart.

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$2.05 at Murphy's here near Perkins Rd. Wal-Mart.  It's usually the lowest and among the busiest places.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 04, 2020, 02:07:17 PM
$1.96 this morning in Marble Falls so we're still creeping down a bit.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on March 05, 2020, 02:09:38 PM
$1.97 for cheapest price in Stillwater, OK.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 05, 2020, 03:16:08 PM
We're still hanging in there at $1.96 yesterday. I need to get 5 gal for the lawn tractor, I had to mow the N lawn Monday, it's already that time in TX.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 09, 2020, 12:48:12 PM
Well, let's see how this world oil price works out on the price of gas. Maybe my trip to NE this Summer will be a cheap one.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CNYWeather on March 09, 2020, 03:02:42 PM
$2.56 in Rome, NY. We'll see what happens with oil below $40 a barrel.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on March 13, 2020, 12:44:58 PM
In Oklahoma City, $1.38 for E-10 at the 44th and Shields OnCue and 7-11 Friday morning.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on March 13, 2020, 12:48:52 PM
In Oklahoma City, $1.38 for E-10 at the 44th and Shields OnCue and 7-11 Friday morning.
Wow. Not sure why it's $1.74 in Tulsa. Jeez.

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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 13, 2020, 01:32:05 PM
We're at $1.84, the $1.38 sounds great, but having to live in OK doesn't fit my plan - ha.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on March 13, 2020, 11:12:31 PM
$1.28 at the Seven/Eleven at I-240 and May in Oklahoma City.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: DRoberts on March 13, 2020, 11:14:00 PM
2.02, 87 octane w/ethanol in northern KS
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 14, 2020, 06:42:03 AM
$1.28 at the Seven/Eleven at I-240 and May in Oklahoma City.
1.28?? Wow.
2.02 here. 1.99 is the lowest I have ever seen it.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 14, 2020, 09:13:39 AM
Enjoy while you can even though many won't take advantage because of the virus.  My fear is smaller companies in the US won't survive once it gets much below $50 a barrel (currently in the 30's) so prices will skyrocket back up into the $80 plus range when it's over.  This is not a healthy situation.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 14, 2020, 09:42:20 AM
Update.
$1.97
Just entered new territory.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 14, 2020, 10:13:53 AM
We're getting down into the territory that's going to hurt our oil guys.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 14, 2020, 11:54:57 AM
We're getting down into the territory that's going to hurt our oil guys.

Hurting the hydraulic fracturing industries made up of small companies right now. They were saying just today to make money oil needs to be above $50 a barrel anything below 40 they actually lose money so don't produce and layoff. Eventually drives them out of business. Big fear right now if we want to stay energy independent.
What could happen is the big boys Exxon's and Mobils buy out the smaller companies so they have control and manipulate the market much like Saudis.
We will back in the $4-5 gallon range again almost overnight if this happens. Big concerns and bleak outlook right now.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 14, 2020, 12:05:28 PM
We're getting down into the territory that's going to hurt our oil guys.

Hurting the hydraulic fracturing industries made up of small companies right now. They were saying just today to make money oil needs to be above $50 a barrel anything below 40 they actually lose money so don't produce and layoff. Eventually drives them out of business. Big fear right now if we want to stay energy independent.
What could happen is the big boys Exxon's and Mobils buy out the smaller companies so they have control and manipulate the market much like Saudis.
We will back in the $4-5 gallon range again almost overnight if this happens. Big concerns and bleak outlook right now.
Don't really understand how the whole pricing structure works but how can the oil companies just raise and lower prices at will?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 14, 2020, 12:19:52 PM
We're getting down into the territory that's going to hurt our oil guys.

Hurting the hydraulic fracturing industries made up of small companies right now. They were saying just today to make money oil needs to be above $50 a barrel anything below 40 they actually lose money so don't produce and layoff. Eventually drives them out of business. Big fear right now if we want to stay energy independent.
What could happen is the big boys Exxon's and Mobils buy out the smaller companies so they have control and manipulate the market much like Saudis.
We will back in the $4-5 gallon range again almost overnight if this happens. Big concerns and bleak outlook right now.
Don't really understand how the whole pricing structure works but how can the oil companies just raise and lower prices at will?

Based on demand, that's how Saudis have done it forever. Produce less forces price up produce more prices crash which may be great short term but they are trying to force frackers out of business right now so they control the market again. This was the perfect storm you might say between the virus and Russia, Sadis upping production.  Our government is trying to help by filling the national reserve right now and stabilize the price.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 14, 2020, 12:22:33 PM
I thought US companies didn't rely on the middle east for oil anymore.
I'm sure I read somewhere that BP gets all it's oil from the gulf.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 14, 2020, 12:33:20 PM
I thought US companies didn't rely on the middle east for oil anymore.
I'm sure I read somewhere that BP gets all it's oil from the gulf.

We don't rely on them because of fracturing true.  They are in the process of driving them out of business by having a market glut.
When you watch the market for the consumer long term you want to see oil prices stay above $50 a barrel because that keeps the US industry healthy. Ideally, around $60 everyone is happy both consumer and fracturing industry.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 14, 2020, 12:48:26 PM
The perfect storm has been created by the MSM, main stream media, purely for political purposes only. Yes, the Saudi/Russian standoff was roiling the world market, then the msm got hold of the virus thing and have created a panic beyond all reason and measure, purely for political reasons and to drive a narrative. When was the last time we shut down the country due to a virus - never. The swine flu in 2009 hospitalized and killed a whole bunch of people, what did we do then? - right, basically nothing. Right now 40 people have died, none younger than 50 and a large number of those were in a retirement home in Washington State. Take a look at stats how many people are shot and killed in Chicago, Philly, Baltimore etc. in a single weekend, do we shut down the NBA, NASCAR, schools etc? And what about the small business's that live on the income from those public events? - where do they go to get reimbursed for their losses - maybe CNN, MSNBC, ABC etc? - I don't think so, they fat and high fiving it all the way to the bank.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on March 14, 2020, 02:50:41 PM
1.95 at a Holiday store

1.79 at Costco.


Major drop the last two weeks.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: galfert on March 18, 2020, 10:31:25 PM
Gas prices could hit 99 cents in some states due to coronavirus and supplies, expert says

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/gas-prices-could-hit-99-cents-in-some-states-due-to-coronavirus-and-supplies-expert-says
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on March 19, 2020, 05:45:16 AM
Under 80 cents/ltr many places in my neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 19, 2020, 06:07:50 PM
Leveled off at 1.91
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on March 22, 2020, 03:01:59 PM
Currently 175.9 in Greenville, Alabama...about 150 miles north of Mobile on I-65.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 22, 2020, 03:08:08 PM
Yeah, that's what I paid 2 days ago in TX, got gas just fine, got 2X4's just fine, went to the grocery store to get some beer and they wanted me to stand in line 3' apart? - guess what I told them!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: galfert on March 22, 2020, 03:53:30 PM
Yeah, that's what I paid 2 days ago in TX, got gas just fine, got 2X4's just fine, went to the grocery store to get some beer and they wanted me to stand in line 3' apart? - guess what I told them!

I don't know. What did you tell them? That 3 ft is not enough and that it is supposed to be 6 ft apart?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 22, 2020, 04:03:14 PM
Austin is telling people 6', you can't get that far apart in a grocery store isle. I basically told them it would be a cold day in hell before I'd stand in line at a grocery store and promptly drove to the nearest liquor store who were more than glad to see my $$$'s. The nearest case to me is 70 miles in Austin and no one has died there yet, none reported in any of the Hill Country Counties. I'll be 77 next week, if I get it and if I die let there be no weeping at my passing, I've lived a good life and like Sinatra said "I did it my way" with darn few regrets and I'm too old to change now.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 22, 2020, 04:18:53 PM
Aerosol form New England Journal of Medicine found it can linger up to 3 hours, thus all the masks you saw in China and South Korea, So 6' separation really does nothing if someone is shedding and doesn't know it.


The virus that causes COVID-19 remains for several hours to days on surfaces and in aerosols, a new study published in the New England Journal of Medicine found.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 22, 2020, 06:27:07 PM
$1.90 here. The slide has stopped for now.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on March 22, 2020, 06:38:52 PM
$2.20 here drove down main today and didn't see 1 pump being used out of 4 different stations. People were still in the grocery stores, however.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on April 04, 2020, 08:37:14 PM
$1.68 today.
Seriously thinking of filling up the gas cans for the hurricane season.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on April 05, 2020, 09:05:21 AM
$1.68 today.
Seriously thinking of filling up the gas cans for the hurricane season.

If your local fuel supply contains ethanol, I would have serious reservations about storing gasoline for more than 30 days or so.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on April 05, 2020, 01:16:04 PM
$1.68 today.
Seriously thinking of filling up the gas cans for the hurricane season.

If your local fuel supply contains ethanol, I would have serious reservations about storing gasoline for more than 30 days or so.....
Your right. I keep enthanol free in the genny. But if I did need it for a hurricane it wouldn't be sitting in there long. As a matter of fact the last hurricane I used some ethanol gas. Afterward I siphoned it all out and filled it up with ethanol free. That stuff does screw up carbs and gas tanks when left in there a while.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: galfert on April 05, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
Well I have a full tank and no where to go.  :-(
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 05, 2020, 03:57:04 PM
Ain't that a fact. Yesterday I was going to go over to the lake and just sit for a time and enjoy the coots etc. and then realized I could be arrested for not staying home? This ain't the America I've lived in for 77 years.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 06, 2020, 04:48:44 AM
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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on April 06, 2020, 07:57:58 AM
$1.66
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 14, 2020, 07:05:07 PM
Not that it matters as we can't go anywhere? - but $1.46 today in Marble Falls. Actually, we're not under much restraint, but it ain't fun to go anywhere like it used to be.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on April 14, 2020, 08:24:45 PM
Not that it matters as we can't go anywhere? - but $1.46 today in Marble Falls. Actually, we're not under much restraint, but it ain't fun to go anywhere like it used to be.
Hang in there Steve.
1.66 here. went up 4 cents. :???:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stuckpipe on April 14, 2020, 10:16:37 PM
Regular at Walmart in Houston was at $1.36 today. Time to go cruising again down Main Street.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on April 14, 2020, 10:28:31 PM
$1.29 on the north side of town at Valero, usually not cheapest.  My favorite place to get gas is second lowest at $1.41.  Highest price in town is $1.45.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Vasjo on April 17, 2020, 11:24:17 AM
1.95 at a Holiday store

1.79 at Costco.


Major drop the last two weeks.

These are good prices
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: gwwilk on April 17, 2020, 11:52:16 AM
$1.499 @ Sam's here when I filled up yesterday.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 18, 2020, 05:23:10 PM
Looks like Wisconsin has got us all beat.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/gas-prices-fall-below-90-cents-a-gallon-at-one-wisconsin-gas-station/ar-BB12ITDS?srcref=rss
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on April 19, 2020, 12:58:54 PM
Heard that gas from refineries was selling for 12 cents in North Dakota. Not sure the word they used for it


Gas is cheap and I have nowhere to go. Have not filled one car up in at least 3 weeks.  Truck is at 1/2.  We are saving money on gas and maintenance of cars.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on April 19, 2020, 01:22:08 PM
Heard that gas from refineries was selling for 12 cents in North Dakota. Not sure the word they used for it

Rack price, which is wholesale at the fuel terminal racks where tank trucks fill up.  By the time that federal/state/county taxes and other fees such as delivery are added, the retail price is much higher.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on April 20, 2020, 04:41:29 PM
West texas intermediate $-37 a barrel? Holy cow.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on April 20, 2020, 06:47:20 PM
Up here gas was as low as 37 cents a liter  yesterday.  60's prices.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on April 20, 2020, 07:20:47 PM
West texas intermediate $-37 a barrel? Holy cow.

I saw that. Wonder if it translates at the pump? They can't give it away when nobody is driving. I expect stations will be closing soon and laying off cashiers.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 20, 2020, 07:46:28 PM
Those were the May futures, the June/July are better, but still not profitable, only $27 a barrel. I just watched a youtube video on parked airliners at Victorville, CA there are over 400 sitting there with no where to go, that's a lot of jobs on hold or gone.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on April 20, 2020, 08:04:11 PM
I just watched a youtube video on parked airliners at Victorville, CA there are over 400 sitting there with no where to go, that's a lot of jobs on hold or gone.
Yes, I saw the same video last night. Sadly stunning. Frankly, the sight reminded me of pics hours after the 9/11 attacks when we grounded everything immediately...wherever. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on April 20, 2020, 08:06:45 PM
So of course gas went from 1.66 to 1.69 today in my back yard.
WTH!!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on April 21, 2020, 12:17:13 AM
Those were the May futures, the June/July are better, but still not profitable, only $27 a barrel. I just watched a youtube video on parked airliners at Victorville, CA there are over 400 sitting there with no where to go, that's a lot of jobs on hold or gone.
Look at the seat count here:  https://www.oag.com/blog/below-forty-million-and-counting
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on April 28, 2020, 04:08:45 PM
Wow, gas in my town finally dropped under $1, 89.9 at Express.  My favorite low price place to get gas, Murphy's, is way behind at $1.32.

(https://stillwaterweather.com/photos/expressgas.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: DRoberts on April 28, 2020, 04:35:07 PM
 $1.44 eFuels northern KS on Monday
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 28, 2020, 04:47:59 PM
I topped off at $1.48 before I make a border run to Mexico tomorrow, will be interesting to see what it is down there. At the Lake where I lived it's about $2.42 with the exchange rate of nearly 25:1.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on May 09, 2020, 03:48:22 AM
An interesting story about an oil tank oriented town 25 miles southeast of me:  https://www.independent.co.ug/cushing-oklahoma-the-town-global-oil-markets-depend-on/ (https://www.independent.co.ug/cushing-oklahoma-the-town-global-oil-markets-depend-on/)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on May 19, 2020, 04:04:29 PM
Gas jumped .20 a gallon to $1.85 overnight!
Grrrr.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: racer3 on May 20, 2020, 06:10:31 AM
Gas jumped .20 a gallon to $1.85 overnight!
Grrrr.


Went from $1.69 up to $1.85 yesterday!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BigOkie on May 20, 2020, 08:41:48 AM
1.39 to 1.54 in NE Oklahoma

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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on May 20, 2020, 09:11:46 AM
Yes, it's started back up, I paid $1.48 the other day to fill up, but the family reunion in NE has been canceled this year so I have nowhere to go? These are supposed to be my golden years, guess I need to look up the definition to that phrase?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: racer3 on June 09, 2020, 06:35:48 AM
Gas jumped up .14 cents overnight to 1.99
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on June 09, 2020, 07:52:21 AM
Gas jumped up .14 cents overnight to 1.99
Just took a quick trip out and seen that. :sad:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on June 10, 2020, 03:18:56 PM
I filled up at $1.79 today so it's up some.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on June 14, 2020, 12:41:51 AM
I filled up at $1.79 today so it's up some.

My favorite place to get gas had been at $1.79, but today, Saturday, dropped to $1.69.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on July 18, 2020, 10:53:14 AM
In our little corner of the world gas prices bounce all over the place...drive 20 miles and get it 20-cents cheaper this week....next week prices at home are 20-cents cheaper than elsewhere.

The real killer locally is that my county's central business town has four gas stations....one Tom Thumb/Citgo and THREE Marathons.  Tow of the Marathons are across the road from each other.  :roll:  Prices...usually the same at the Marathons and most of the time same as at the Citgo.

Current price, as I recall from driving by yesterday....$1.93.   :-x
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on July 18, 2020, 12:54:48 PM
2.05/2.09 here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on February 05, 2021, 11:43:12 PM
For the first time in a long time, gas prices are over $2.00 everywhere in Stillwater.  The cheapest as of Friday evening was at Murphy's by N. Perkins Rd. Wal-Mart at $2.06 with a holy mackerel sunset as pictured.  $2.06 is the cheapest in Stillwater as of Friday evening.  Interesting on late Friday morning how higher oil and gas prices prices coincided with one of the strongest earthquakes in Oklahoma in quite some time with a magnitude of 4.2.  Five disposal wells near the epicenter were ordered shut down and 10 others restricted.
https://stillwaterweather.com/okareaearthquakes.php (https://stillwaterweather.com/okareaearthquakes.php)

(https://okie.world/photos/gaspricesfeb2021.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on February 05, 2021, 11:56:57 PM
For the first time in a long time, gas prices are over $2.00 everywhere in Stillwater. 
Whata shock, get use to it.   :evil:

BTW, beautiful sunset.   
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: racer3 on February 06, 2021, 05:42:02 AM
Up to $2.49 in Ocala Fl  :-(
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on February 06, 2021, 08:28:53 AM
Had dips to low 0.90's c/litre during summer but holding steady $1.05-$1.10 ish these days.

Teens soon I guess.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on February 06, 2021, 08:51:09 AM
Up to $2.49 in Ocala Fl  :-(
Yeah I know. Went to work at $2.22 and came home to $2.49.
I have no reason why this happens but it piss's me off to no end.  :evil:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on February 06, 2021, 08:56:37 AM
Around here it spikes up around 3 or 4 on the morning. Then starts to ease back in the afternoon. Starts to hit good lows after midnight to start all over again next day.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 06, 2021, 10:42:50 AM
It's post election folks, get ready for big changes, it's coming. I was in Mexico last Tues and it's higher than here, but we're rapidly catching up.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on February 10, 2021, 11:16:34 PM
Gas prices in Stillwater are now between $2.04 and $2.19.  My favorite place since it's closest  is at Murphy's at $2.05.  But at the Wal-Mart station further up north it's $2.04.  Since unlike Murphy's, it's a little out of my way, so never bought gas there before.  The town's only Wal-Mart Neighborhood Center is nearby.  Shopped there before, but never saw fit to go back there much, since the Perkins Rd. Wal-Mart super center is enough and in easy walking distance.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bushman on February 10, 2021, 11:33:14 PM
You can thank the Saudis, the Russians, and the Polar Vortex.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on February 11, 2021, 06:51:25 AM
New president, new prices.
You get what you vote for.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 11, 2021, 08:10:39 AM
Unfortunately we get what they voted for.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: galfert on February 11, 2021, 08:24:57 AM
Didn't they get what you voted for the previous time around?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 11, 2021, 08:36:12 AM
You know I believe you're right and I'll not bother to document the list, I'm sure you've seen it, it's quite long, I believe it's called a rising tide lifts all boats. But, enough for this.

I'm in Central TX and in the middle of a thunder ice storm, the first crash of thunder woke me at 6:27 and continues, the freezing rain has apparently plugged up the rain gauge because it's not registering. They're talking 4" of snow Monday, must be global warming? Now I'd like to make a snarky comment about this being a result of the election, but I won't, it's not my nature.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on February 11, 2021, 09:28:45 AM
Didn't they get what you voted for the previous time around?

.....and they sure got the better deal, as their wallets will tell them eventually.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CNYWeather on February 11, 2021, 11:58:32 AM
$2.64 for regular here in Rome, NY today. Up around 10 cents the past couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on February 11, 2021, 12:08:41 PM
We're up about $0.60 in the same time frame
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on February 11, 2021, 05:04:41 PM
Dropped to 2.33 from 2.49 last week.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 15, 2021, 05:14:13 PM
I know many of you are not impressed with our little storm down here in TX, anymore than we consider you Summer heat complaints - but we're struggling a bit. We dropped to 5.7 degrees this morning with 4" of snow on top of 1/4" of ice and are expecting more ice tomorrow night. Ok, I grew up in snow country, no problem, but here I don't have a snow shovel, ice scraper or even a pair of boots to go out and play in the snow? Yesterday the power went off for 3 hours which was a bit unnerving and so I decided to fill up the car in case the cat and I had to spend the night in it. I went to the first station and they only had $uper, I went to the town nearby, they only had $uper, so I went to a third station and filled up with - yes, $uper at $2.79 a gallon. I lost power again last night but only for about 20 minutes. Many areas around TX are having rolling blackouts as there is a power shortage due in part to half the big wind turbines being frozen up, like my weather station. So, we'll see how it goes, first we were locked down by the Covid scam and now it's a natural disaster - we deserve a break today.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on February 15, 2021, 06:13:40 PM
That Polar Vortex broke a bunch of records in Saskatchewan and places.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 16, 2021, 09:04:47 AM
Hang on to your pocketbooks, the biggest refinery is shutting down.
https://www.newsmax.com/finance/streettalk/cmd-cos-gen-industries/2021/02/15/id/1010073/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 16, 2021, 10:38:34 AM
chiefs forum saying rolling blackouts in KC area

omaha too
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: gwwilk on February 16, 2021, 10:57:32 AM
Rolling blackouts in Lincoln, NE (https://les-gt.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/c68073185c214b249605d7796a24129b), too.  This map also shows pending blackouts so we can plan accordingly.

Our blackouts have lifted as of 10:30!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 16, 2021, 11:03:24 AM
insane-plane old insane
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on February 16, 2021, 09:00:16 PM
Rolling blackouts in Lincoln, NE (https://les-gt.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/c68073185c214b249605d7796a24129b), too.  This map also shows pending blackouts so we can plan accordingly.

Our blackouts have lifted as of 10:30!

There were hour long blackouts Tues. morning for a bunch of Oklahoma Cities, including Stillwater, but did not affect my part of town.  This morning, below zero temperatures were everywhere in Oklahoma, probably unprecedented.  More snow, but no below zero temps expected tonight or Wed. morning.  Maybe that will be enough to prevent another blackout.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 16, 2021, 09:14:21 PM
heard of blackouts in Texas, Wichita, Omaha, Lincoln, Iowa (farm renter was shut down at least once today)

Samsung factory in texas ceased production today. First time. Wife's company has a contract with samsung.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: gwwilk on February 16, 2021, 09:31:40 PM
Nebraska’s generating capacity was running at 115% capacity when the blackouts were ordered by the grid tzars. We were exporting power to keep the grid from entering a cascading failure because of unprecedented demand from usually warm areas.

‘Green Energy’ doesn’t work well when the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine. I’ll bet that the environmentalists still won’t get a clue. We still need coal, natural gas, and nuclear energy, the sources called upon here today. By the way, anthropogenic global warming is an untestable hypothesis by any rigorous scientific standard. It’s pure speculation.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 16, 2021, 09:39:46 PM
applause
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on February 16, 2021, 09:52:08 PM
‘Green Energy’ doesn’t work well when the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine. I’ll bet that the environmentalists still won’t get a clue. We still need coal, natural gas, and nuclear energy, the sources called upon here today. By the way, anthropogenic global warming is an untestable hypothesis by any rigorous scientific standard. It’s pure speculation.
Yes.  =D&gt;
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 17, 2021, 08:29:05 AM
I got up at 4am for a bathroom break and no water? Called the utility emergency number and they said due to rolling blackouts, I'm dubious. But if that's the case the bad news is the good news? Friend in San Antonio were down to 55 degrees inside due to blackouts. Rockport on the coast has been out of power for 48 hours. We had another layer of ice last night which froze my other door shut so I had to remove the storm door glass pane from the inside to step outside and get a bucket of snow/ice to melt down for flush water. We did warm to 32 overnite so it's not as bitter cold.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on February 17, 2021, 05:43:59 PM
We had another layer of ice last night which froze my other door shut so I had to remove the storm door glass pane from the inside to step outside and get a bucket of snow/ice to melt down for flush water.
When given lemons...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 17, 2021, 05:47:13 PM
It was easier in MX, when I needed flush water I just went out back to the 15,000 gal cement pond and dipped a bucket - ha.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 17, 2021, 05:58:13 PM
as up 30 cents in a week here   I think 20 today.


(https://charts.gasbuddy.com/ch.gaschart?Country=USA&Crude=f&Period=1&Areas=USA%20Average%2C%2C&Unit=US%20%24%2FG)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: racer3 on February 18, 2021, 06:43:56 AM
Up to $2.59 in Ocala Fl.   :-x
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 19, 2021, 05:21:03 PM
$3.06 in Marble Falls today for gas but you can't buy water with a $100 bill!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on February 19, 2021, 05:29:12 PM
you can't buy water with a $100 bill!
Got any of that snow left?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on February 19, 2021, 05:34:53 PM
Of course hindsight is 20/20, but in all seriousness, maybe everyone should have some of these laying around.

https://www.gearhungry.com/best-water-purification-tablet/

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 19, 2021, 06:45:44 PM
The powered water is going fast, we hit 40 today. I'm filling containers and if we don't get water soon I'll just go over to the lake with half a dozen buckets and dip some for flushing. My cat is on bottled water and that's what I'm watching, I'm on canned water so that's in good supply - ha.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on February 19, 2021, 07:02:30 PM
I'm on canned water so that's in good supply - ha.
As stupid as it sounds, I never even heard of "canned" water til a guy on Pawn Stars brought in something like this from our Cold War era.

https://blog.retroplanet.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Vintage-Naval-Supplies.jpg
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 20, 2021, 09:02:22 AM
Actually, during some recent disasters Bud did put water in cans for distribution. However my canned "water" is from Busch and has a little flavor added - ha. I sent an email to a friend yesterday titled Two Question Quiz; Question #1 Can you live on the CPB (Cheetos, Pizza, Beer) diet - answer: Apparently. And Question #2 Does the CPB diet cause weight gain? Answer: Well, duh?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 20, 2021, 10:30:45 AM
The powered water is going fast, we hit 40 today. I'm filling containers and if we don't get water soon I'll just go over to the lake with half a dozen buckets and dip some for flushing. My cat is on bottled water and that's what I'm watching, I'm on canned water so that's in good supply - ha.

We did something like that every winter. Knowing we were at the end of the line, the lines were old and the water pump only worked with electricity. We started filling buckets and milk jugs with water in November. It allowed us to drink, cook and flush the toilet not knowing how long we would be with out electricity. I think the longest was 3 days.

We never got a generator. Could not afford it. At least we had heat.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 20, 2021, 11:12:55 AM
I've been without water for 5 days, but just got messages from my water banditos that they were bringing it back online about now, so now we'll see if I have any problems at my end. It's been real fun. You have to wonder how tough the pioneers really were?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on February 21, 2021, 02:41:28 PM
The pioneers were tough but  back then they knew nothing about the luxuries we have today.
So you did what you had to do to survive and didn't really think about it.
Now if we had to go back and live like the early pioneers the herd would be thinned out pretty quick.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 21, 2021, 08:49:55 PM
2.44 tonight
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 22, 2021, 05:53:53 PM
2.59 on the way home today
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: tshattuck on February 24, 2021, 11:56:01 AM
On Feb 18, the price for regular unleaded in Syracuse, NY was $2.699/gal. That's up about 20% in the last 4 weeks.
I think the days of cheap gas are behind us.  :-(
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on February 26, 2021, 11:33:54 PM
Nebraska’s generating capacity was running at 115% capacity when the blackouts were ordered by the grid tzars. We were exporting power to keep the grid from entering a cascading failure because of unprecedented demand from usually warm areas.

‘Green Energy’ doesn’t work well when the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine. I’ll bet that the environmentalists still won’t get a clue. We still need coal, natural gas, and nuclear energy, the sources called upon here today. By the way, anthropogenic global warming is an untestable hypothesis by any rigorous scientific standard. It’s pure speculation.

There was never a blackout in my part of town during the freak cold spell.  But other parts of town were subject to just one of them.  No problem with the water, either, thanks to city workers able to thaw out water pumps at the lake source 38 miles away.  It got down to at least 10 below here.

Green energy surely works out better for the summer months to help relieve peak power demands from the summer heat.  But nuclear energy needs reconsidered.  This guy once thought renewable energy was a good idea, but later concluded it's too inefficient with too many natural problems, such as rare birds dying from flying into propeller blades. He now thinks in this video that the latest in nuclear energy would be better:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-yALPEpV4w&feature=emb_logo[/youtube]
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on February 26, 2021, 11:42:27 PM
On Feb 18, the price for regular unleaded in Syracuse, NY was $2.699/gal. That's up about 20% in the last 4 weeks.
I think the days of cheap gas are behind us.  :-(
The cheapest place for gas in my town as of Feb 25 is at my favorite place as usual, Murphy's USA at $2.15.  If it will make you feel better, the highest place for gas in my town is at $2.47 at Phillips 66. But it's surely ethanol free. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 27, 2021, 08:50:27 AM
Around $2.30 here in mid TX. Yes, the future is SMR small nuclear reactors which are being built now. Back in the 60's I worked for Atomics International in nuclear instrumentation and at the time they had built a number around the country, but they were huge, very complex and very expensive. This new generation are very different and should be very successful.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 27, 2021, 09:49:32 AM
steve-any damage for you after the freeze?

we northerners make fun of others that do not understand the cold, but things are built different there. It was a rare event. You cant go back and retro everything for rare events. Just build for the future.

Here-we have built for a lot of different things. Cold, heat, tornado, storms. With the exception of underground electrical lines-we are in good shape.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 28, 2021, 08:40:40 AM
No damage, we did well. I was worried about a big live oak that I have hanging over the shop, if I had lost a limb there it would have been a disaster. We were without water for 5 days, but it came back and no leaks and we're past the boil requirement now. I have vines around the back deck, they're probably gone and yesterday in Kingsland just to the S of me the palm trees look like toast. Overall it was a nuisance, but not a problem, a lot of people weren't as fortunate.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on February 28, 2021, 01:46:27 PM
Good to hear Steve.  [tup]
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on February 28, 2021, 01:50:53 PM
Curious how the invasive specie's did. Either plant or animal. I know a freeze like that would do wonders in Florida with all the invasive stuff we have here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 09, 2021, 05:35:16 PM
Just saw where the average gallon in LA is now $3.81, a 46% increase in six weeks. Nice job!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: racer3 on March 10, 2021, 05:45:27 AM
Up to $2.85 from $2.69 overnight in Ocala FL!  :evil:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 10, 2021, 08:39:59 AM
Seems like each Monday morning it jumps another twenty cents.  :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 10, 2021, 08:52:00 AM
$2.39 yesterday in Marble Falls, holding fairly steady.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 10, 2021, 03:55:26 PM
Just the tip of the iceberg folks....and not just merely gasoline. $1.9T of pork will see to that in a hurry.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on March 10, 2021, 05:07:18 PM
saw 2.79 today
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 10, 2021, 05:09:30 PM
I'll be 78 at the end of the month, there are a lot of days lately when I wish I'd died right after I turned 77. This whole thing has gone ugly early.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on March 21, 2021, 04:38:17 PM
...and it ain't getting no better in a hurry!  :roll:

Gas locally $2.70, twenty miles away at Wallyworld $2.55
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 21, 2021, 05:04:00 PM
Everything goes up people. Except the paycheck.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: galfert on March 21, 2021, 05:48:54 PM
Paycheck is going up for some in Florida as a result of the recent law passed.

Florida’s minimum wage rate (currently, $8.56) will increase to $10 an hour in September 2021. The minimum wage then will increase by $1 each year until it reaches $15 an hour in 2026.

We'll see how this goes down and what effects will happen. Hopefully not run away inflation. Or maybe we'll all have to be ordering at McDonald's by touch screen (or remote call centers) and food preparation will be done by robots.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 21, 2021, 06:02:19 PM
We'll see how this goes down and what effects will happen. Hopefully not run away inflation.
Don't hold your breath. The tip of the iceberg will continue to grow.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on March 22, 2021, 11:00:34 AM
Paycheck is going up for some in Florida as a result of the recent law passed.

Florida’s minimum wage rate (currently, $8.56) will increase to $10 an hour in September 2021. The minimum wage then will increase by $1 each year until it reaches $15 an hour in 2026.

We'll see how this goes down and what effects will happen. Hopefully not run away inflation. Or maybe we'll all have to be ordering at McDonald's by touch screen (or remote call centers) and food preparation will be done by robots.
I wonder if they'll build into the robots the ability to spit and to discern in who's food to spit into....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on April 04, 2021, 07:22:29 AM
Down to 2.54 here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: NK7Z on April 04, 2021, 09:07:56 AM
Everything goes up people. Except the paycheck.
(https://charts.gasbuddy.com/ch.gaschart?Country=Canada&Crude=f&Period=60&Areas=USA%20Average,USA%20Average,LosAngeles&Unit=US%20$/G)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 04, 2021, 09:24:53 AM
$2.46 a couple of days ago in CenTex. I'm sure it will be more when I head to NE for the 4th of July reunion.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 14, 2021, 07:27:05 PM
Not bad today, $2.41 and was probably cheaper in Marble Falls, but I forgot to check.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on April 14, 2021, 07:35:15 PM
$3.49 for E85. Up 30% from this time last year. Gasoline increase is about the same.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on April 14, 2021, 10:55:38 PM
$1.9T of pork will see to that in a hurry.

I saw boneless pork loins for $1.59/lb last week.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Aardvark on April 18, 2021, 05:48:31 PM
Gas prices here in Des Moines are not all that bad.  Now my wife uses premium in her volvo and it has to have that level in it.   Fortunately two things for me come into play, one is that I can use  the 15% ethanol in my Mazda and it is lower in cost, and that Hy-Vee grocery gives money off per gallon for certain purchases of certain items. 

The winter in Texas shut down pipelines and that has caused a lot of headaches.   I can understand that if someone has to commute this gets way too expensive. I wish the Feds would give a gasoline tax rebate, but they won't.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Great.Gonzos on April 19, 2021, 06:09:25 PM
Gas here in western Michigan is running about $2.70/gal or so for regular . That’s fine for my wife’s SUV. My Beetle though, like your Volvo, requires premium for another 60 cents per gallon (partly because VW says so, mostly because of the module I have in it -VROOM! VROOM!). The good news there is that I’ve only filled the Beetle up 4 times in the last year. Working at home changed my driving habits that much.

As for the cheaper cost of the 15% ethanol stuff, I question if it’s really cheaper? Don’t you also lose MPG with it too? For the same distance it actually costs you more? Idk, maybe I’m wrong.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Aardvark on April 19, 2021, 06:23:04 PM
Gas here in western Michigan is running about $2.70/gal or so for regular . That’s fine for my wife’s SUV. My Beetle though, like your Volvo, requires premium for another 60 cents per gallon (partly because VW says so, mostly because of the module I have in it -VROOM! VROOM!). The good news there is that I’ve only filled the Beetle up 4 times in the last year. Working at home changed my driving habits that much.

As for the cheaper cost of the 15% ethanol stuff, I question if it’s really cheaper? Don’t you also lose MPG with it too? For the same distance it actually costs you more? Idk, maybe I’m wrong.
  My standard joke is that I get great mileage for my Mazda,  I don't go anywhere to speak of.   I did find out that the more electronics that the cars need to be started more often if just parked at home, that they wear out the battery.  So I came up with a schedule on my computer to remind me to start it.

Iowa is about $2.764 for regular and $3.330 for premium depending on where you get it. Different places are slightly different.   I drive in the city and the thing gets about 24mpg which is not that bad for Des Moines traffic.

The reason the wife has the Volvo, her brother worked for Volvo as a parts manager out in LA, and told her it was a safe car. We are leasing it.  I used to have a Jeep Laredo,but it just wore out.. I loved that Jeep, I could get through any pile of snow without any worry.

But the gas prices seem to be higher and my take on it?  Greed .
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on April 19, 2021, 06:23:53 PM
Don’t you also lose MPG with it too? For the same distance it actually costs you more? Idk, maybe I’m wrong.
Ethanol has approximately 80% of the thermal energy of gasoline, so yes, you typically tend to lose a little MPG. However, the nice thing about ethanol is that it has a much higher octane rating compared to gas. If you have a DME and compression ratio that can take advantage of that, you can make significantly more power with E85 compared to straight gas. E15 won't do do-do power wise.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on April 20, 2021, 04:42:49 PM
Didn't know that. What is the octane rating for E85.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on April 20, 2021, 04:59:19 PM
It can vary a bit between 100-105.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on April 23, 2021, 06:57:40 PM
$3.80 for 91 today. Last fall it was about $2.30. Boy whoda thunk this...SMH.... :evil:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: 92merc on April 24, 2021, 12:12:33 PM
We're running $2.79 for E10 regular 87 octane.  So the prices have gone up from $2.00 at it's lowest during the pandemic.

Here in ND, the higher gas prices are a double edged sword.  ND is the second largest producer of oil, only second to Texas.  So the state of ND receives a lot of money in oil revenue taxes.  So having the oil prices hover around $60 is good for us.  Gas prices aren't too high, but the tax revenue comes in.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Great.Gonzos on April 26, 2021, 12:29:47 PM
Tax revenues from gas? Move to Michigan. We have the highest gas taxes after California, Washington, Alaska and Texas (I think those the ones). We're #5 overall and still have crappy roads.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on April 26, 2021, 06:43:31 PM
Move to Michigan.
Respectfully, no thanks.

Just saw where it's $4.15 for measly 87 in Cali now. That probably puts 91 around $4.40. This'll surely help boost the economy!!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on May 12, 2021, 06:10:13 PM
Well, guess you've all seen the E coast problem and the rather sudden price rise. The thing I still can't fathom is people filling plastic bags with gasoline and putting it in their trunks, this is insanity illustrated. This is a serious problem and a lot of people in high places are wringing their hands, but I don't see them doing much to help the guy on the street trying to make a living.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on May 12, 2021, 07:56:51 PM
Well, guess you've all seen the E coast problem and the rather sudden price rise. The thing I still can't fathom is people filling plastic bags with gasoline and putting it in their trunks, this is insanity illustrated. This is a serious problem and a lot of people in high places are wringing their hands, but I don't see them doing much to help the guy on the street trying to make a living.

It has not affected us here yet. Sure it will somehow.

But why would anyone thing gas in a plastic bag is smart. I have seen it on video too. Oh brother.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on May 14, 2021, 09:40:29 AM
Well, guess you've all seen the E coast problem and the rather sudden price rise. The thing I still can't fathom is people filling plastic bags with gasoline and putting it in their trunks, this is insanity illustrated. This is a serious problem and a lot of people in high places are wringing their hands, but I don't see them doing much to help the guy on the street trying to make a living.
There was/is definitely hoarding going on but I think the plastic bag photos are older, re-recycled ones.  Those people were idiots then...and truth be known there's more idiots walking the streets today than there were then.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on May 29, 2021, 06:11:56 PM
Well, it's that time again, cough up the cash and hit the road. $2.59 this morning in Marble Falls. The national ave is $3.04, in 2020 it was under $2.00.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on May 29, 2021, 06:20:48 PM
Well, it's that time again, cough up the cash and hit the road. $2.59 this morning in Marble Falls. The national ave is $3.04, in 2020 it was under $2.00.
Biggest reason is last year everything was mostly shutdown and there wasn't much traveling. Now with everything opening back up the oil companies are back to their greedy ways.
That's my reasoning. Who knows. :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on June 04, 2021, 09:35:21 AM
The last time I was in our small two-traffic-light town the price was $2.85...a week ago, the Friday before Memorial Day.  I was headed to a town roughly 20 miles east and needed gas but held out to see what it was over there.  I ended up buying gas for $2.67 at Liberty(?)...Walmart.  Other stations there were about the same price.  So, an 18-cent difference twenty miles away.

An interesting point is that we have four gas stations here...three Marathons and a Citgo (Tom Thumb store).  Seems kind of crazy to have that many stations in a small town like ours but we are on a tourist route to the Florida panhandle beaches, albeit a mix of mostly 2-lane roads with some 4-lane stretches mingled in.  But...three of the same brand???  :roll:  The town 20 miles east of us has a solid 4-lane highway running from Montgomery (interchange city for I-65 and I-85) all the way to Panama City Beach, Florida...but yet there gas was 18-cent cheaper than ours.  They are a much larger town/city than us and have more gas brands so there is a little more competition there.  Something does seem rather greasy about the pricing the stations in our little town.

Did ya'll see where North Face just refused to make a oil/gas company jackets because they didn't want to be associated with an oil company????  Hypocrisy so bad it's laughable...being as most of NF's merchandise, especially their fleece, is made from petroleum.  :-s
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: racer3 on June 08, 2021, 05:39:26 AM
Big jump in gas in Ocala. From $2.76 up to $2.95!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on June 30, 2021, 03:10:31 PM
Well, just about time to shove off on my reunion trip to NE. I filled up today at $2.64, so not bad for the first tank, we'll see what OK, KS and NE have to offer along the way.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on June 30, 2021, 04:00:30 PM
Good travelling...


Our prices are up a lot from the low of about a year ago, at about $C1.26 per litre.  But still saving a lot as we are putting hardly any miles on the cars.  And the new hybrid the gas tank is still nearly full.


Enjoying,
Paul
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on July 06, 2021, 10:25:37 AM
Great year for my reunion and traveling through TX, OK, KS and NE. Prices were generally $2.65 to $2.85 except Ardmore, OK where I wasn't paying attention and paid $3.39 (my bad). They have separate E-15 pumps which are cheaper but I stuck with normal Regular. It was great to see America back to where things were normal again.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on September 05, 2021, 09:23:50 AM
$2.729 in Troy, Alabama, @Wallyworld/Murphy.

25 miles away in my hometown it's $2.899 at the Marathons (plural...we have four gas stations...three of them are Marathons...two of them sit across the road from each other...go figure).
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on September 05, 2021, 09:41:24 AM
Pre Ida 2.63. Post Ida 2.99.
Price gouging at it's best. If a local store were to try and sell ice at $20 a bag they would be prosecuted, and rightly so. Big oil companies do it and nothing happens.  :evil:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 05, 2021, 09:53:12 AM
You want to talk about gouging, take a look at the shooting marketplace. Everything is in short supply and what is available is at least double the prices 2 years ago and up. I wanted another magazine for my rifle and they're around $28, I had to search through nearly 50 google hits to find one that was even in stock and it was slightly elevated, but I saw a couple at $40 and on eBay one was $134? Twenty two ammo that was $2.20 a box is now $10 and more if you can even get it. Most of us are old enough to be appalled at our "new economic reality".
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on September 05, 2021, 11:42:44 AM
paid 3.48 last week on the Pennsylvania turnpike


Milk was almost 4 bucks yesterday.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: zeppline on September 06, 2021, 10:47:26 AM
I would like to pay 3.48, filled up yesterday 4.05 for 89.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 06, 2021, 11:07:22 AM
Ouch, that's painful. We're hanging in the mid $2.60's at least for now. But with things iffy as they are in our new reality, who can guess?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on September 06, 2021, 01:00:35 PM
Convert it out we pay about 4 bucks for 87. It's a good chunk of our budget.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on September 06, 2021, 01:47:53 PM
Convert it out we pay about 4 bucks for 87. It's a good chunk of our budget.
How much of that is tax's?
Here in Florida the state adds on 26.5 cents a gallon. The federal government adds on 18.4 cents a gallon. Plus what ever the county adds on.  :roll:
Freakin government. Just a license to steal.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on September 06, 2021, 05:57:15 PM
30 some percent goes to various tax departments.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on September 10, 2021, 04:06:50 AM

$2.56 here with 10% ethanol.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Aardvark on September 10, 2021, 04:13:57 PM
Up to about 4 dollars a gallon for premium..  I can't tell if it is because we are recovering from Labor Day weekend, or the refineries want an increase in profit.

My wife is leasing a volvo and it uses premium,  I get to use the cheap stuff in my Mazda.   Stilll being on a fixed income, I don't go much anymore, have my prescriptions sent to me.  wheeee
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Intheswamp on September 10, 2021, 06:26:55 PM
Update:  Four days later the price in Troy, Alabama for reg/10%E was once again $2.729.  But, gas in my little town has risen three cents to $2.929.  Go figure.

$2.729 in Troy, Alabama, @Wallyworld/Murphy.

25 miles away in my hometown it's $2.899 at the Marathons (plural...we have four gas stations...three of them are Marathons...two of them sit across the road from each other...go figure).
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 04, 2021, 07:10:27 PM
I did a day trip to Mexico today at Del Rio/Acuna and filled up at Del Rio for $2.79/gal, so not bad with all the instability around.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bashy on October 04, 2021, 10:05:26 PM
Deisel is over $8 here in the UK, petrol is a little cheaper
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on October 04, 2021, 10:18:22 PM
Deisel is over $8 here in the UK, petrol is a little cheaper

terrible
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on October 07, 2021, 04:20:56 PM
Highest average US gas price in 7 years. Gas says to everyone else..."get in line". Sure didn't see that comin'... :roll: :evil:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 07, 2021, 04:27:40 PM
That one was easy to predict on Nov 4th when the Keystone pipeline was canceled. That was a huge red flag predicting the future and it's only started, even the price of my cheap beer has gone up? - this is getting serious!

The biggest problem today is that the COLA that determines our SS for next year is based on the 3rd quarter of this year and while the inflation had begun, I'd bet if it were based on the 4th quarter we'd be getting a real Christmas bonus!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on October 07, 2021, 04:39:51 PM
That one was easy to predict on Nov 4th when the Keystone pipeline was canceled. That was a huge red flag predicting the future and it's only started
Two years ago we were completely energy independent. Not anymore. :mad: ](*,) :evil:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 07, 2021, 05:16:51 PM
My My, how times do change?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on October 07, 2021, 07:24:56 PM
My My, how times do change?
Ohhh, the best is still to come...Wait til the IRS queries you on why you spent $608.76 for a "something". Wait til the FBI bust your adult kids for actually having the unmitigated gall to speak up about why your grandkids are having mask mandates and indoctrination shoved down their innocent, unknowing throats. Wait til you have to show your vac papers to go out to eat or fly. Oh wait, that's already happening (which I stated in the summer of 2020 would be coming).. Wait til you have to... See a theme here?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 07, 2021, 07:55:57 PM
Yep, when the inmates are running the asylum there's no telling what's next or what they won't try to dump on us.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 09, 2021, 11:55:25 AM
Well, the price creep has begun, $2.85 today and it's not in anticipation of Halloween or any holiday.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: PaulMy on October 09, 2021, 12:12:30 PM
Well we didn't get the price creep... we got the price hurricane... now up to $1.449 /l about 10 cents jump.  And it is our Thanksgiving Weekend here!
Glad I don't have to fill up as often anymore with hybrid vehicle.


Enjoy :)
Paul




Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 09, 2021, 12:16:52 PM
I've heard from friends in CA and it's all bad, you're way higher than we are currently, but with some help from the asylum we're catching up.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on October 13, 2021, 07:25:27 PM
https://gasprices.aaa.com/surging-crude-oil-prices-point-to-more-pain-at-the-pump/

"Let's Go Brandon!!"   [tup]
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 13, 2021, 08:36:50 PM
That's the problem with the COLA for Social Security. If you live in town, are in a retirement center with no car, gas means nothing, if you live 12 miles from the nearest town or 20 miles from the doctor etc. it means a lot. So, the raise we got is a pittance. I should have stayed in MX last week and crossed this week as an illegal, I'd get more money and respect?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on October 13, 2021, 09:14:34 PM
So, the raise we got is a pittance.
With inflation at a THIRTY year high (whatta shock...) our raises are meaningless as we are already underwater even with the raise. I suspect many here remember Jimmy Carter years... This administration may make those times look "prosperous". What's even sadder, this is just the tip of what's going on in this country. Never in a million years did I think I'd see this head-to-toe disaster here. Never.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on October 13, 2021, 10:50:04 PM
So, the raise we got is a pittance.
With inflation at a THIRTY year high (whatta shock...) our raises are meaningless as we are already underwater even with the raise. I suspect many here remember Jimmy Carter years... This administration may make those times look "prosperous". What's even sadder, this is just the tip of what's going on in this country. Never in a million years did I think I'd see this head-to-toe disaster here. Never.

Buy an electric car and you don’t have to worry about gas prices! Right? Wrong! I just purchased a new car (my former car was 16 years old) and I told my salesperson I did not want an electric or hybrid vehicle that gives rise to a government handout (aka rebate, subsidy) and I don’t want the hassles of plugging my car in. I will let the next generation deal with the current follies of our current administration that renewables will solve all of our problems including cancer, COVID, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, unemployment, etc., etc. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on October 17, 2021, 07:48:43 AM
(https://www.datilcam.com/179.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on October 17, 2021, 09:36:19 AM

Buy an electric car and you don’t have to worry about gas prices! Right? Wrong! I just purchased a new car (my former car was 16 years old) and I told my salesperson I did not want an electric or hybrid vehicle that gives rise to a government handout (aka rebate, subsidy) and I don’t want the hassles of plugging my car in. I will let the next generation deal with the current follies of our current administration that renewables will solve all of our problems including cancer, COVID, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease, unemployment, etc., etc.


I've often wondered what people running from hurricanes do when the run out of juice and have to recharge.
Do they tell the hurricane to wait while they charge up?

Ever heard what it costs for a new battery for your electric car?


Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Mark / Ohio on October 17, 2021, 11:40:57 PM
I've often wondered what people running from hurricanes do when the run out of juice and have to recharge.
Do they tell the hurricane to wait while they charge up?

A kite flown by a very long wire attached to the charging plug while driving and hope for lightning or a lot of corona build up on the wire.  It's called the Franklin Emergency Charging System.  Ronco carries them.  ;)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: OldAlaskaGuy on October 21, 2021, 03:48:57 PM
So now the Biden team is consulting with the oil industry to find out how to fix the rising fuel costs. Duh!Biden team asks oil industry for help to tame gas prices - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/13/white-house-biden-gas-prices-515957)

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on October 21, 2021, 04:37:27 PM
(https://www.datilcam.com/sw%20to%20trump.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on October 21, 2021, 05:27:01 PM
My daughter, who works at NATO headquarters in Brussels, asked me May of 2020 what I wanted for my birthday. Knowing her TDS, I asked her to vote for Trump because when she and her family move back to the States the summer '22 they won't recognize the country they will come back to if they put Joey and Co. in "charge". She basically told me to "stick it". Well, not only am I right, I'm more right than I ever could have imagined. I also told her bread/soup lines, covid papers, wokeness, open borders, out of control inflation of gas and consumer goods, cities becoming lawless pits of slime, (what else am I forgetting...) ect. will destroy this country. The soup lines aren't quite here yet, I praying I'm not right about that as well. Sadly, we rarely speak now. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on October 21, 2021, 05:36:03 PM
It's a roller coaster. Goes up then down.
Wash rinse repeat.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on October 21, 2021, 05:42:59 PM
It's a roller coaster. Goes up then down.
Wash rinse repeat.
I respectfully disagree. This is not the Democratic Party I was a card carrying union member of a decade ago. Not even close. They genuinely hate America.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: DoctorKnow on October 21, 2021, 06:46:02 PM
It's a roller coaster. Goes up then down.
Wash rinse repeat.
I respectfully disagree. This is not the Democratic Party I was a card carrying union member of a decade ago. Not even close. They genuinely hate America.
I was never a hard core Democrat, but I agree... They have gone insane.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Mark / Ohio on October 22, 2021, 10:17:37 PM
It's a roller coaster. Goes up then down.
Wash rinse repeat.
I respectfully disagree. This is not the Democratic Party I was a card carrying union member of a decade ago. Not even close. They genuinely hate America.
I was never a hard core Democrat, but I agree... They have gone insane.

A decade ago was before a substantial chunk of them went Socialist / Marxist with The Bernie crowd.  We should never underestimate the attraction of handing out freebies.  I used to think of myself as center right.  But that position now seems like what Dems used to be and I'm off with the far right someplace.  We have watched the same happen all over the world, even with our friends up in Canada.  I guess it's a sign our older generation that fought multiple wars in the name of freedom are fading away and the new kids think being taken care of is a good thing.  They don't realize it's a good thing until you find out it isn't, never has been, and doomed to failure like every other flavor of it in the history books.  But by that point it is near impossible to go back without major loss of lives on both sides.  (Civil war)  In that respect I agree with Ocala.  History repeats itself especially when given enough time for a generation that knew better to pass away.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on October 22, 2021, 11:37:19 PM

“The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”

― Margaret Thatcher
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 31, 2021, 11:06:45 AM
I've have the itch for a newer car and drove a couple and picked up loan app papers from the bank and went down to fill up the Jeep. At $2.95 per gallon I rolled over $50 and as I sat in the car later looking at the loan papers on the seat I thought how stupid can I be? Gas is $2.95 per gallon and going up and the newer Jeep I wanted has a Hemi engine. Prices on used cars are up 30% over a year ago. I looked at my log book and the last time I spent $50 on a tank of gas was 10/1/2014 just after I returned from Mexico. I filed the loan app for a future date.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on October 31, 2021, 11:29:00 AM
I've have the itch for a newer car and drove a couple and picked up loan app papers from the bank and went down to fill up the Jeep. At $2.95 per gallon I rolled over $50 and as I sat in the car later looking at the loan papers on the seat I thought how stupid can I be? Gas is $2.95 per gallon and going up and the newer Jeep I wanted has a Hemi engine. Prices on used cars are up 30% over a year ago. I looked at my log book and the last time I spent $50 on a tank of gas was 10/1/2014 just after I returned from Mexico. I filed the loan app for a future date.

Good plan.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on October 31, 2021, 11:32:19 AM
When I bought my 1998 Dodge 3/4 ton diesel, diesel was $1.09 and the cheapest of the fuels.
Now it is the most expensive except in some places where "premium" beats it out.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on October 31, 2021, 11:36:46 AM
3.29 last week. 3.11 this week
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Splitrail on November 01, 2021, 12:11:10 AM
My daughter, who works at NATO headquarters in Brussels, asked me May of 2020 what I wanted for my birthday. Knowing her TDS, I asked her to vote for Trump because when she and her family move back to the States the summer '22 they won't recognize the country they will come back to if they put Joey and Co. in "charge". She basically told me to "stick it". Well, not only am I right, I'm more right than I ever could have imagined. I also told her bread/soup lines, covid papers, wokeness, open borders, out of control inflation of gas and consumer goods, cities becoming lawless pits of slime, (what else am I forgetting...) ect. will destroy this country. The soup lines aren't quite here yet, I praying I'm not right about that as well. Sadly, we rarely speak now.
The "soup lines" are called "food banks" now.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on November 04, 2021, 07:02:53 PM
It's a roller coaster. Goes up then down.
Wash rinse repeat.
I respectfully disagree. This is not the Democratic Party I was a card carrying union member of a decade ago. Not even close. They genuinely hate America.
I was never a hard core Democrat, but I agree... They have gone insane.
I'm only 60 miles from the border. I think I'm going to stroll into Mexico, turn around and collect my $900K. That way I can afford my food, gas, utilities, ect. for at least another couple months. Who wants to play my "child"? I'll cut you in for 25%. PM me.  \:D/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on November 04, 2021, 07:17:13 PM
$3.49 for diesel at the cheap place in Los Lunas
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on November 07, 2021, 06:51:39 PM
I have no four letters words left for Brandon & Co. Enjoy your winter!!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-considering-shutting-down-michigan-pipeline
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Splitrail on November 07, 2021, 07:07:35 PM
I have no four letters words left for Brandon & Co. Enjoy your winter!!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-considering-shutting-down-michigan-pipeline

What happened to the "like" button?  =D&gt;
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on November 17, 2021, 09:12:53 PM
 Price for gas here has dropped from $2.75 to $2.73. It doesn't get much lower in Oklahoma.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on November 17, 2021, 09:15:56 PM
$3.43 in Lombard, IL—a Chicago suburb in the Blue state of Illinois.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on November 17, 2021, 09:27:11 PM
It's a roller coaster. Goes up then down.
Wash rinse repeat.
I respectfully disagree. This is not the Democratic Party I was a card carrying union member of a decade ago. Not even close. They genuinely hate America.
I was never a hard core Democrat, but I agree... They have gone insane.

The same must have been said of the Republican Party before every time they lost Congress and the presidency.  Neither party can do a decent job of running the country when one or the other dominates. I'm still with Wallace who said long ago that there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the Republican and Democrat parties.   At least the oil futures dipped below $80 this week for the first time in a while.  Hopefully, it will stay on the downside.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on November 17, 2021, 09:46:54 PM
It's a roller coaster. Goes up then down.
Wash rinse repeat.
I respectfully disagree. This is not the Democratic Party I was a card carrying union member of a decade ago. Not even close. They genuinely hate America.
I was never a hard core Democrat, but I agree... They have gone insane.

I'm still with Wallace who said long ago that there isn't a dime's worth of difference between the Republican and Democrat parties.   
The left has become radicalized. Period. Not even debatable. Finally the American people are seeing the big, destructive picture, and it ain't pretty for Dems as they try to push through any and everything they can before they're all looking for work next November.   =D&gt;
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on November 23, 2021, 07:09:30 PM
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/oil-reserves-released-biden-expected-china-india ]  :twisted:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on November 23, 2021, 07:26:38 PM
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/oil-reserves-released-biden-expected-china-india ]  :twisted:


This is a band aid on the real problem—shutting pipelines around the country to appease the greenies.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on November 23, 2021, 07:32:13 PM
It's simple, this administration wants U.S. to fail.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: DoctorKnow on November 23, 2021, 08:36:31 PM
B I D E N Pimpin' for China, with his kin.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on November 23, 2021, 08:45:24 PM
It's despicable. Incredibly sad, but I never thought I'd ever feel such hatred over a group of people.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on November 23, 2021, 09:17:18 PM
3.14 here.

you want vitriol and hatred in politics. check out chiefsplanet washington DC
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on November 23, 2021, 09:23:20 PM
It was  $1.66 at the cheap place in Los Lunas during Trump.
Why don't some of these geniuses ask him what to do?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 24, 2021, 07:21:02 PM
Well, $2.89 up here in the Hill Country, I'll burn half a tank tomorrow going to San Antonio for my turkey dinner, it will be worth it.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO ONE AND ALL!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on December 03, 2021, 05:26:58 PM
Thanks Brandon! Time to reschedule that road trip I've been wanting to take!  \:D/

https://www.dailywire.com/news/democrats-blasted-for-bragging-biden-made-gas-2-cents-cheaper-worst-defense-of-the-biden-admin-yet
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on December 03, 2021, 05:52:56 PM
Yah
Don't spend it all in one place.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Eno on December 04, 2021, 12:08:19 AM
I put more miles on bicycles than my motor vehicle; almost indifferent to gas prices. :-D
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on December 04, 2021, 12:34:36 AM
I put more miles on bicycles than my motor vehicle; almost indifferent to gas prices. :-D
Good for you. 99.9% of the rest of the country isn't.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on December 04, 2021, 09:43:30 PM
I put more miles on bicycles than my motor vehicle; almost indifferent to gas prices. :-D
Good for you. 99.9% of the rest of the country isn’t.

Correction. 99.999%
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on December 11, 2021, 06:48:17 PM
I put more miles on bicycles than my motor vehicle; almost indifferent to gas prices. :-D
Good for you. 99.9% of the rest of the country is.

Correction. 99.999%

I used to be in that .001% way back when I had to ride my bicycle to work everyday, because I didn't have a car.  But that didn't last too long.  Eventually got enough money to buy a used car.  On co-worker didn't even have a bicycle and walked to work for a mile.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on December 11, 2021, 06:58:24 PM
Beyond single personal burdens, my concerned is with how this insane increase in EVERYTHING is affecting our country.
Gas prices are only a symptom of a far far greater problem.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on December 11, 2021, 07:02:03 PM
Beyond single personal burdens, my concerned is with how this insane increase in EVERYTHING is affecting our country.
Gas prices are only a symptom of a far far greater problem.
Worst inflation in 39 years...but that was yesterday. Stay tuned.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 16, 2021, 05:41:30 PM
Looks like it's hanging around $2.67 here in the Hill Country, Merry Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on December 16, 2021, 06:15:17 PM
Stated today, normal life for Americans cost approximately $3500 per year more now than this time last year.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on December 16, 2021, 07:48:52 PM
Stated today, normal life for Americans cost approximately $3500 per year more now than this time last year.

But this fact doesn’t consider the great things that have happened over the last year—-COVID is behind us, the division in this country is gone, crime is next to nonexistent, unemployment is gone, the approval ratings of Biden and Congress are sky high, and death has been curtailed—okay, a bit over the top with this last comment re death……
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on December 16, 2021, 08:05:47 PM
Alas, you forget our border (which I'm 60 miles from) has been sealed tight as a drum, the rest of the planet has the utmost respect for us, and our woke military is ready for any and all threats. What's everybody complaining about??   :???:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on December 18, 2021, 06:42:36 PM
our woke military is ready for any and all threats.
We're doomed..

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/us-air-force-memo-authorizes-gender-pronouns-signature-blocks
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Splitrail on December 18, 2021, 07:19:39 PM
{"The use of pronouns (he/him, she/her, or they/them) in an email signature block is authorized but not required," the memo adds.}
Since when has "they/them" been gender specific?  :?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on December 18, 2021, 09:30:04 PM
It's hard to believe there are people so stupid that they think what is going on currently is good.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 20, 2021, 04:53:04 PM
Here's an extremely minor example of 2021 (not gas) I have cats, Fancy Feast used to be $.65 per can, then it went to $.68 per can and the other day there was a sizable sign on the shelf saying FANCY FEAST $.70EA - but the shelf was empty, so even at elevated prices there is no supply chain?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on December 24, 2021, 12:46:47 AM
It's hard to believe there are people so stupid that they think what is going on currently is good.

But for now, gas is going now, not up.  In Stillwater, the lowest price is $2.55.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on December 24, 2021, 05:33:32 AM
$3.54 in Socorro, NM.
Worst inflation in 40 years.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 25, 2021, 08:31:24 AM
We're still hanging around $2.67 so that's our Christmas present.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on February 17, 2022, 06:58:01 PM
Not like anyone doesn't know what's going on. This admin can't shove green down our throats fast enough whether we're ready or not. (Guess what, we're not even in a decade of being ready..but to hell with that.) Next...

https://www.newsmax.com/us/gas-california-prices-oil/2022/02/17/id/1057340/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on February 17, 2022, 07:00:34 PM
Gas broke $4 per gallon here today.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 17, 2022, 07:02:11 PM
Yeah, $3.09 a gallon here yesterday, first time over $3 for quite a while.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 17, 2022, 07:17:10 PM
3.41-3.44
highest it has been in a few years
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on February 17, 2022, 08:05:36 PM
$3.59 in suburban Chicago! But its for the children!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on February 17, 2022, 08:59:48 PM
Hitting us these days.

170 some per litre in places.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 22, 2022, 05:07:54 PM
Back under $3/gal, barely. I filled up today at $2.98. We're expecting a major cold front followed by an ice storm Thurs, so figured I should fill up now. We were 79 today, expecting a 50 degree drop by tomorrow, it's the silly season?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on February 22, 2022, 06:22:45 PM
Back under $3/gal, barely.
Yeah, well, don't hold your breath. Brandon & Co. have found a new way to jack up oil to a potential $150 a barrel (current thinking) with what's happening across the pond...and that may very well be just one of many new worries. I ran out of expletives looong ago.  :evil:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on February 22, 2022, 06:44:33 PM
No problem. Joe will address this in his State of the Union address on March 1-gas prices will drop like a rock, the chip shortage will be gone, supply chain issues will be a thing of the past, and Putin will be history! Life is good once again! Oh I forgot—Covid will be a thing of the past beginning March 2.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on February 22, 2022, 06:55:31 PM
Silly man.. Don't forget the wide open border just down the street from me and record crime (yes, just like your lovely city, Tucson also set it's all time murder record last year..I'm swelling with pride) will all magically disappear.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on February 22, 2022, 06:57:33 PM
3.49

everything I used has gone up. Just got a note that my security system is be going up 3 dollars a month.

I feel like everything I use went up 3 dollars a month.

My salary has not gone up the amount that everything went up.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: W Thomas on February 22, 2022, 08:41:17 PM
Walmart/Murphy's here in West Jefferson Nc is $2.32 per gallon and is the cheapest around. Most is $2.35 and higher.
Out and out rip off in my opinion. I was really getting used to those $1.85 prices a year or so ago now this plain sucks!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on February 23, 2022, 06:15:00 PM
Wow, that's cheap. Best we can do here is 3.34.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 24, 2022, 09:38:46 AM
I see oil is $105 a barrel so the news isn't good.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SoMDWx on February 24, 2022, 10:16:00 AM
Rumors abound that Biden may sometime today reverse the Keystone decision along with opening federal land for oil...

Hard way to learn that you just can't cut that tap off without serious consequences.. Europe is finding that out today.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on February 24, 2022, 10:17:34 AM
A blind man with a seeing eye dog could have seen this coming.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 24, 2022, 10:27:31 AM
It's election year so no telling what they might do next? I see sonny boy of the great frozen North suddenly realized he stepped in it big time and reversed, I suppose it could happen here, but it's too late in Europe, it could get ugly early.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: DoctorKnow on February 24, 2022, 04:03:15 PM
Liberals who voted Biden need to demand that he turn our energy back on. Admit you made a mistake for once... (some never can admit their mistakes, not all). Not all Democrats want destruction, but this is really bad.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on February 24, 2022, 05:48:22 PM
Admit you made a mistake for once.
:lol: The left uses three tactics. They'll double down even knowing damn good and well they're wrong, they'll deflect, or......wait for it......it's Trumps fault. This is sadly fact and even "some" of the left is finally seeing what is right under their noses. Even MSM can't protect this destructive admin anymore. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 24, 2022, 05:55:07 PM
And, here it is, right on queue: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/russia-ukraine-s-conflict-isn-t-biden-s-fault-many-ncna1289733
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 24, 2022, 05:57:34 PM
Sorry, I'm resisting making this political, but sometimes I just have a breakdown and have to tell the truth. I'll go back to my room now.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: wxperson on February 24, 2022, 08:11:18 PM
And, here it is, right on queue: https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/russia-ukraine-s-conflict-isn-t-biden-s-fault-many-ncna1289733

Imaginative journalism.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on February 24, 2022, 10:28:59 PM
I thought "The buck stops here"?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: W Thomas on February 26, 2022, 01:34:22 AM
Rumors abound that Biden may sometime today reverse the Keystone decision along with opening federal land for oil...

Hard way to learn that you just can't cut that tap off without serious consequences.. Europe is finding that out today.....

Hey Jim! How's it going?
I sure hope he does reverse that move. If not I'm afraid we will endure those same shortages like we dealt with back when I was a kid in 1970s But I guess if I understood Putin's message today we may not need it because nothing I've got will run through a nuclear attack.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on February 28, 2022, 04:22:49 PM
$2.99 a gal in Burnet, tX which is normally at leat 3-4 cents more than down the road in Marble falls, so guess we didn't get the memo on the Ukraine thing?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on February 28, 2022, 09:54:34 PM
I always watch the SOTU. IF I do tomorrow, I fear for the safety of my very pretty TV. My O/U on BS flags thrown is 100.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SnowHiker on March 01, 2022, 01:21:39 PM
I always watch the SOTU. IF I do tomorrow, I fear for the safety of my very pretty TV. My O/U on BS flags thrown is 100.

You can try watching it with the sound off, and see how long you can take watching those sitting behind him giddily giggling and clapping like two preteen girls.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 01, 2022, 02:16:48 PM
There isn't enough money collectively among all the members of this forum to get me to watch the SOTU - in fact, for any Pres. It's wasted time.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Ray Proudfoot on March 02, 2022, 08:30:49 AM
$2.99 a gal in Burnet, tX which is normally at leat 3-4 cents more than down the road in Marble falls, so guess we didn't get the memo on the Ukraine thing?

By “gas prices” I’m guessing you’re referring to fuel for your car.

I filled up with unleaded petrol last Friday and 8 gallons cost me 55GBP. Converting that to US Dollars would cost $73 or $9.14 / gallon. That’s over three times what you pay so consider yourself very fortunate.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on March 02, 2022, 09:25:00 AM
Thank Joe Biden
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 02, 2022, 11:53:09 AM
Yes, we're fortunate for our prices with the exception of places like Calif and NY. But our country is large and our economy is based on lower prices, when they go up, everything goes with them. Texas alone is about 2.8 times as big as the UK including Scotland. And, until the current regime came into office a year ago the US was energy independent - no more.

Prices were all over the place today, HEB in Marble Falls was $3.09 and Murphys was $3.19, normally they are the same and the cheapest. But, HEB Burnet only 13 miles N was $2.97 so guess where I filled up.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: havtrail on March 02, 2022, 11:12:13 PM
Thank Joe Biden

How about "Thank the oil companies"? They are the ones that really control the supply.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 02, 2022, 11:30:38 PM
Thank Joe Biden

How about "Thank the oil companies"? They are the ones that really control the supply.
How about Joey stop buying GD Russian blood oil helping pay for this maniac and his invasion, and start taking advantage of what we have in own damn back yard. How about that? There is no excuse. None.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on March 03, 2022, 01:42:38 PM
yesterday 3.49
 today.      3.64
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: zeppline on March 04, 2022, 11:33:22 AM
$4.13/gallon yesterday. Some places $6.00 in California.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Aardvark on March 04, 2022, 03:41:07 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/04/business/russian-oil-ban/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/04/business/russian-oil-ban/index.html)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Greg_M on March 04, 2022, 03:55:32 PM
600,000 barrels a day times $115, figure it out.
The percentage of our consumption doesn't mean squat. It's just an attempt to hide behind numbers.

By not being energy self sufficient we are adding to the cost a of a barrel of oil on the world stage. That means Russia is getting more per barrel from everyone in the world that buys oil from them. That gives them money to conduct aggressive military actions.

When we were energy self sufficient the price per barrel was right at $35.
Again, do the math.

Or just take the short cut and answer the question "Why was it less that $2 a gallon during Trump and now twice that during biden?"
Magic democrat math?

Which would you rather pay?

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 04, 2022, 04:52:33 PM
Yet Joey continues to cow down to the "squad" and Kerry about not taking advantage of energy HERE. God he's worthless...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/gas-prices-ukraine-russia
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on March 04, 2022, 05:32:07 PM
3.79
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 04, 2022, 05:57:20 PM
The complete asinine agenda of the left is thinking that stopping "non-green" energy production here will keep "global warming" at bay. What do they think the term "global" means? I guess getting our energy from everyone else on the planet will keep our side of the world nice-n-cool. China starts up a new coal mine every stinkin' week. Unbelievable...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on March 04, 2022, 06:12:09 PM
Joey and Junior have pissed away self reliance. If you don't have an equal amount of replacement fully functional there could be a faceplate looming.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 07, 2022, 05:16:35 PM
Call your Rep, your Senators, whomever, and DEMAND we get our own energy. This admin says we're going to Venezuela and Iran now as well just to keep the fellow jackasses appeased.

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/oil/2022/03/07/id/1060056/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SnowHiker on March 07, 2022, 07:11:58 PM
Call your Rep, your Senators, whomever, and DEMAND we get our own energy. This admin says we're going to Venezuela and Iran now as well just to keep the fellow jackasses appeased.

Ask them to support H.R. 6858 "To strengthen United States energy security, encourage domestic production of crude oil, petroleum products, and natural gas, and for other purposes." 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6858/text?r=6&s=1
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on March 07, 2022, 07:15:52 PM
3.49 last week
3.74 this morning
3.96 this afternoon
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on March 07, 2022, 07:19:14 PM
Call your Rep, your Senators, whomever, and DEMAND we get our own energy. This admin says we're going to Venezuela and Iran now as well just to keep the fellow jackasses appeased.

Ask them to support H.R. 6858 "To strengthen United States energy security, encourage domestic production of crude oil, petroleum products, and natural gas, and for other purposes." 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6858/text?r=6&s=1

This bill isn’t going anywhere under the “leadership” in the House or clueless Joey.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 07, 2022, 07:36:00 PM
Call your Rep, your Senators, whomever, and DEMAND we get our own energy. This admin says we're going to Venezuela and Iran now as well just to keep the fellow jackasses appeased.

Ask them to support H.R. 6858 "To strengthen United States energy security, encourage domestic production of crude oil, petroleum products, and natural gas, and for other purposes." 

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/6858/text?r=6&s=1

This bill isn’t going anywhere under the “leadership” in the House or clueless Joey.
I suppose you're right. They know they're on the street in November anyway, so why try and do the right thing now. But, then again, the XYZ strain will be knocking on the door by then and the voting fiasco of 2020 is back in all it's unmitigated..... We won't need Putin to destroy our country, we'll do it to ourselves.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on March 07, 2022, 09:18:18 PM
Ok, enough sidebar political ravings .. talk about the actual prices you observe for gas in your area if you like.

Cease the political garbage or quit the forum.  It's very tedious to hear the same vitriol spouted from the few.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on March 07, 2022, 10:04:51 PM
In your terms......rolling well north of 5 dollars per gal. in my neighborhood.

30% jump from a couple months ago.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Aardvark on March 08, 2022, 11:14:36 AM
My wife is leasing a Volvo and that burns premium.  Why it burns premium,  well the Chinese own Volvo now and they like Russia, who knows?

I remember my dad coming home after filling his tank complaining about the high gas prices when I was a teen.  34 cents a gallon.    Arghhhhhhh
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 08, 2022, 11:35:40 AM
I was in town today, the place I filled up at $2.97 last week is now $3.69 as are the other "cheap" stations?  And, the heck of it is the nearest one to me is 12 miles so I'd burn $3.69 just to get there and back?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on March 08, 2022, 12:26:34 PM
Premium gas $4.84 March 8, 2022
Premium gas $4.05 February 11, 2022

Regular is typically 40-50 cents per gallon less expensive than premium

Natural gas cost per therm to heat my house (more important to me personally living in Chicago)

February 2022 $.61
February 2021 $.30
February 2020 $.26

The numbers speak for themselves!

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: waiukuweather on March 10, 2022, 05:56:19 PM
petrol prices are up all over the world
its not just a USA thing
looks like OPEC though are increasing supply, which should help, hopefully
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bashy on March 10, 2022, 09:48:14 PM
looks like OPEC though are increasing supply, which should help, hopefully

Oh dear god, i really hope so. Diesel here in the UK is around £1.70 per litre and worse is my heating oil, thats around the £700 mark for 500L (minimum we can buy) it was around the £0.50 per litre pre-pandemic and then near the beginning of the 1st lockdown it dropped rapidly to about £112 for 500L, then gradually started to go back up... Then Putin had his chicken fit and now its trippled in around 2 weeks.

I will be going cold next winter unless sommat drastic changes, i will have around 500L left for next winter (if we dont have any real bad cold spells). I use around 500 -600L a winter thats with the stat set to 18ºC during the night and 16ºC during the day and its only that high for the dogs, if it was just me it would be at much lower at night...

Oh and our electric and gas has gone through the roof too, 45% increase from April and going up again in October, for someone on a fixed income (back injury) its gonna be bad, real bad next winter time
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on March 11, 2022, 05:56:06 PM
Yikes, at £1.70/l for diesel, that's $8.38/gallon US at current exchange rate (1£ = 1.3039$) so we're getting a better deal than you right now. (Not that any high prices are good).

I filled up the other day at $5.26/gallon for unleaded regular.  I've seen some branded stations at $6+/gallon.  Good thing I drive a Prius and don't drive much anyway.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 11, 2022, 06:13:25 PM
Good thing I drive a Prius
Good thing I don't.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: waiukuweather on March 11, 2022, 06:19:47 PM
Hybrid cars use half the amount of fuel
why would you not want to drive one? (just curious)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 11, 2022, 06:29:40 PM
Many reasons. Mostly because I choose not to just like more than 99% of the rest of this country. This admin is shoving "green" down our throats looooong before we're ready. That's simple fact they choose to completely ignore.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 11, 2022, 07:00:54 PM
Many reasons. Mostly because I choose not to just like more than 99% of the rest of this country.

I hope you don't imagine 99% of the country wants those little tinker toys? - or did I read that wrong. I live in semi-rurual Texas, pickup country, BIG DULY pickup country and one of those towing a 30' horse trailer wouldn't even notice the bump if he ran over a Prius. I did see one during the campaign season a year ago, had a political bumper sticker and I thought boy, you better get back on the road to Austin where it's safe to be dinky, he was definitely not from around here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 11, 2022, 07:11:15 PM
Many reasons. Mostly because I choose not to just like more than 99% of the rest of this country.

I hope you don't imagine 99% of the country wants those little tinker toys? - or did I read that wrong.
I'm saying 99% of this country does NOT use EV's and I'm one of them. Just like your big trucks and all, my DD is a 20 year old BMW M3 that I still adore to this day. It's visceral like no EV could ever imagine.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 11, 2022, 07:16:36 PM
Sorry, I thought I read that wrong, but had to check - ha.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 11, 2022, 07:28:18 PM
 UU
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on March 11, 2022, 07:29:15 PM
Many reasons. Mostly because I choose not to just like more than 99% of the rest of this country. This admin is shoving "green" down our throats looooong before we're ready. That's simple fact they choose to completely ignore.

But it is for the Children! A favorite saying of our greenie friends!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 11, 2022, 07:32:40 PM
Guess what, I burn corn in my car's motor too.... :-P
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 11, 2022, 07:39:53 PM
My cousin thanks you, he farms 1,000 acres in NE and a lot of it is corn.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: waiukuweather on March 11, 2022, 08:21:48 PM
but if you drive a big gas guzzling pick up truck instead of a hybrid, then I would not be all complaining about gas prices
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 11, 2022, 08:24:11 PM
but if you drive a big gas guzzling pick up truck instead of a hybrid, then I would not be all complaining about gas prices
Yeah, I guess since I eat too, I shouldn't bitch about food prices either... :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on March 11, 2022, 09:41:46 PM
but if you drive a big gas guzzling pick up truck instead of a hybrid, then I would not be all complaining about gas prices
Yeah, I guess since I eat too, I shouldn't bitch about food prices either... :roll:
Many reasons. Mostly because I choose not to just like more than 99% of the rest of this country. This admin is shoving "green" down our throats looooong before we're ready. That's simple fact they choose to completely ignore.

But it is for the Children! A favorite saying of our greenie friends!
Many reasons. Mostly because I choose not to just like more than 99% of the rest of this country.

I hope you don't imagine 99% of the country wants those little tinker toys? - or did I read that wrong. I live in semi-rurual Texas, pickup country, BIG DULY pickup country and one of those towing a 30' horse trailer wouldn't even notice the bump if he ran over a Prius. I did see one during the campaign season a year ago, had a political bumper sticker and I thought boy, you better get back on the road to Austin where it's safe to be dinky, he was definitely not from around here.

I see the usual players are at it again with semi-political speech this time.  Cut it out, or leave.  We are fully aware of your opinions of a political nature and don't want to hear them again.  Stick to the topic of the thread (Gas Prices in your area).  Omit casting pejorative slurs to anyone that doesn't share your exact worldview.   Consider this your last 'yellow card' for repeated abuse of the forum's registration rules.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jim_S on March 11, 2022, 09:43:49 PM
I just filled up at $4.39. Prices here are running from $4.29 to $4.45 according to Gas Buddy.

I love manual transmissions (real ones with a clutch, not flappy paddles) so unless they come out with an electric or hybrid with a clutch and shifter I won't be in the market. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 11, 2022, 09:52:47 PM
I love manual transmissions (real ones with a clutch, not flappy paddles) so unless they come out with an electric or hybrid with a clutch and shifter I won't be in the market.
I have a 6 speed with three pedals. You'll never see that in an EV because one of the great things about electric motors is they have 100% torque available immediately unlike an ICE which must build engine speed to make power.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on March 11, 2022, 10:23:37 PM
but if you drive a big gas guzzling pick up truck instead of a hybrid, then I would not be all complaining about gas prices
Yeah, I guess since I eat too, I shouldn't bitch about food prices either... :roll:
Many reasons. Mostly because I choose not to just like more than 99% of the rest of this country. This admin is shoving "green" down our throats looooong before we're ready. That's simple fact they choose to completely ignore.

But it is for the Children! A favorite saying of our greenie friends!
Many reasons. Mostly because I choose not to just like more than 99% of the rest of this country.

I hope you don't imagine 99% of the country wants those little tinker toys? - or did I read that wrong. I live in semi-rurual Texas, pickup country, BIG DULY pickup country and one of those towing a 30' horse trailer wouldn't even notice the bump if he ran over a Prius. I did see one during the campaign season a year ago, had a political bumper sticker and I thought boy, you better get back on the road to Austin where it's safe to be dinky, he was definitely not from around here.

I see the usual players are at it again with semi-political speech this time.  Cut it out, or leave.  We are fully aware of your opinions of a political nature and don't want to hear them again.  Stick to the topic of the thread (Gas Prices in your area).  Omit casting pejorative slurs to anyone that doesn't share your exact worldview.   Consider this your last 'yellow card' for repeated abuse of the forum's registration rules.


I have a chiefs forum that you can go crazy if you need to. You just should really be a Chiefs fan. The raider guy takes it on the chin.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on March 11, 2022, 10:40:11 PM
) so unless they come out with an electric or hybrid with a clutch and shifter I won't be in the market.

Ask and you shall receive:

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1135114_toyota-patented-a-manual-transmission-for-electric-cars
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bashy on March 11, 2022, 11:01:13 PM
I love manual but i also like an auto, thats what i have at the minute, no flappy paddles either, its  Volvo V70 2.4 D5 185bhp, If i drive like Morgan Freeman i can get around 35mpg semi rural, a long trip will see around 40mpg, if i drive like myself then around 27mpg, if i drive it like i stole (more often than not, tis too much fun) then im looking at <20mpg, thats for a diesel i might remind ya. For the avergae UK driver, thats too high a usage, at a guess... To be honest, i can live with fuel pumps rise, its the house heating oil that i cannot, i have no chance in affording any oil anytime soon, Even saving 50 a month just wont cut it, it would need to be £100, not a chance, and thats if it doesnt rise much more, rest assured, it will
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jim_S on March 12, 2022, 01:09:51 AM
I love manual transmissions (real ones with a clutch, not flappy paddles) so unless they come out with an electric or hybrid with a clutch and shifter I won't be in the market.
This seems like it could be a fun topic so rather than drag this thread off topic I started one about what cars we drive.

https://www.wxforum.net/index.php?topic=43610.msg444004#msg444004
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 14, 2022, 03:26:41 PM
It went down! 4.39 to 4.27.
It's a start. Hopefully a continuing trend.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bashy on March 14, 2022, 03:29:05 PM
It went down! 4.39 to 4.27.
It's a start. Hopefully a continuing trend.

Due to the current talks, if they go south, prices will go back to a northerly direction...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Aardvark on March 14, 2022, 04:23:01 PM
yep.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 14, 2022, 04:36:03 PM
A week or more ago all of a sudden all the stations went to $3.99 which I thought unusual. Today in MF both HEB and Murphys were down to $3.86 and a friend in San Antonio said he noticed a 10-15 cent drop today
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 18, 2022, 04:21:23 PM
3.99 here too.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 18, 2022, 05:10:53 PM
Looks like we've settled back down to $3.83 as an average with one as low as $3.57 and a few over $4.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: zeppline on March 19, 2022, 11:46:31 AM
Got some gas yesterday up again $5.07/gallon.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 19, 2022, 09:26:24 PM
Just read that diesel is just shy of seven bucks in Cali. Guess what every semi truck, freight train, and farming tractor uses for fuel..
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on March 19, 2022, 10:49:41 PM
But, not all areas in California have gougers.  Santa Clara County (Silicon Valley) has Diesel for $5.25 to $6.19,  Regular $5.25 to $5.39 - down about $0.35 from last week.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on March 19, 2022, 11:06:13 PM
But, not all areas in California have gougers.  Santa Clara County (Silicon Valley) has Diesel for $5.25 to $6.19,  Regular $5.25 to $5.39 - down about $0.35 from last week.
Granted, less is less (see how long that lasts), but it's nothing more than lipstick on a pig.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jim_S on March 19, 2022, 11:59:24 PM
Diesel here in eastern Washtington is $4.85. Regular is running from $4.25 to $4.49. Slightly down from a week ago.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 23, 2022, 08:23:11 AM
We were down to $3.71 yesterday at Murphys so maybe the fever has broken, but still a long ways from $2 gas!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 23, 2022, 03:41:49 PM
3.89 here.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: racer3 on March 24, 2022, 05:57:46 AM
4.09 here
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bashy on March 24, 2022, 08:26:35 AM
But thats gallons, try over £2.00 a litre......
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 24, 2022, 09:59:04 AM
Looks like $10USD per gallon if my math is correct. That's pricey to be sure.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on March 25, 2022, 01:21:18 PM
Well, $3.69 - - - but $63 to fill up a small Jeep SUV? And, to make it worse I had just pulled out of an AC supplier where I wrote a check for $2.400 partial partial payment for the new system?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jimi on March 26, 2022, 05:54:30 PM
But thats gallons, try over £2.00 a litre......
£1.70 up here for diesel, petrol £1.58 ( thats after the recent tax reduction)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on March 26, 2022, 06:15:42 PM
Back up to 3.99.  :-(
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on April 06, 2022, 08:06:38 PM
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/california-gas-stations-insane-prices-will-make-your-jaw-drop
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 06, 2022, 08:17:21 PM
I got out of there in '65, never looked back and turned down several high paying jobs since. There's an easy solution to the problems, all the voters have to do is fix the problem!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jim_S on April 07, 2022, 05:45:26 PM
Prices have been staying steady here at about $4.25/gal. (average). Costco is $3.99 and a few stations are up at $4.45.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on April 18, 2022, 04:57:32 PM
Went back to the beginning of this thread. October of 2014. Hard to believe it's been 8 years. A lot of those posters from back then are long gone. :-(
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on April 27, 2022, 07:17:49 PM
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/california-raise-gas-tax
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on April 27, 2022, 08:17:07 PM
Why are you banging your head .. you aren't in California.  The article you cited says
Quote
The tax is used to fund roads and other infrastructure projects; the state's Legislative Analyst's Office projected the tax will generate about $8.8 billion in revenue during the 2021-22 fiscal year.
and
Quote
California already has the nation's highest gas tax at 51 cents per gallon. The levy will rise to 53.9 cents per gallon at the beginning of July.
  A $0.029 rise in state tax/gallon is hardly a thing to get excited about. 

California uses the gas tax to fund roads/infrastructure projects.  We don't have toll roads as some states do.  We do have bridge tolls to pay operation/upkeep expenses.

Yes, the base price of gas here is high at 5.50-5.70/gallon with some outliers above $6/gallon. 
The state does keep a Estimated Gasoline Price Breakdown and Margins (https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/transportation-energy/estimated-gasoline-price-breakdown-and-margins) which shows

April 25, 2022BrandedUnbranded
Distribution Costs, Marketing Costs and Profits$0.62$0.65
Crude Oil Costs$2.54$2.54
Refinery Cost and Profit$1.52$1.49
State Underground Storage Tank Fee$0.02$0.02
State and Local Tax$0.12$0.12
State Excise Tax$0.511$0.511
Federal Excise Tax$0.184$0.184
Retail Prices$5.51$5.51

Here's where we started in 2022

1/3/2022BrandedUnbranded
Distribution Costs, Marketing Costs and Profits$0.59$0.62
Crude Oil Costs$1.91$1.91
Refinery Cost and Profit$1.18$1.15
State Underground Storage Tank Fee$0.02$0.02
State and Local Tax$0.10$0.10
State Excise Tax$0.51$0.51
Federal Excise Tax$0.18$0.18
Retail Prices$4.50$4.50

versus where we were at the start of the last year (2021) when prices started soaring having stayed around 3.10 or so for quite a while.

1/4/2021BrandedUnbranded
Distribution Costs, Marketing Costs and Profits$0.37$0.45
Crude Oil Costs$1.22$1.22
Refinery Cost and Profit$0.73$0.66
State Underground Storage Tank Fee$0.02$0.02
State and Local Tax$0.07$0.07
State Excise Tax$0.51$0.51
Federal Excise Tax$0.18$0.18
Retail Prices$3.10$3.10

You can see the big jump is in the first 3 line (Distribution, Crude price, Refinery price) -- a $0.029 rise in State tax is negligible compared to the raw crude cost and refinery price/profit.


Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on April 27, 2022, 08:35:48 PM
Why are you banging your head .. you aren't in California.
Seriously? If you think for one second high gas prices in California, let alone the rest of the country for that matter isn't killing us....

I'll leave it at that.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on April 27, 2022, 09:06:48 PM
I think you misunderstood .. your article cited California specifically.  Yes, other states have high gas prices too, and it is seriously impacting our various economies.  There's some extra 'mystery' stuff going on in California (see https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-03-14/gas-prices-vary-from-place-to-place ) that gives us an extra at-the-pump-cost despite us having local refineries and oil wells producing.

Our $5-$6/gallon is still much lower than many international prices (Europe especially).

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on April 27, 2022, 09:29:19 PM
Our $5-$6/gallon is still much lower than many international prices (Europe especially).
Fine and dandy. Not only do I not live in Cali, I don't live in Europe either, nor do I care about their pain at the pump. We should NEVER have been placed in this position as we can manufacture all the energy this country needs, here....and export as well. What a concept.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SoMDWx on April 29, 2022, 10:04:45 AM
Very True. No reason why we are placed into a position of dependence from other nations when we have the full capability to be energy independent. This whole climate issue is driving businesses into the ground and creating a national security risk. There are ways to slowly move to renewable energy sources while still maintaining a balance which least affects the economy. Cooler heads and common sense needs to prevail.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 29, 2022, 04:30:52 PM
Cooler heads and common sense needs to prevail.
Unless you know something about DC that none of us knows, we're screwed. When I lived in MX, the DF was the equivalent and just as elite and screwed up as our head shed. I believe we will reach a point when there will come a major shift, a massive change in the way we govern and operate. I'm 79 so I don't expect to live long enough to see that even though my family typically lives long - but, I'm hopeful for my GGkids etc.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on April 29, 2022, 04:50:44 PM
Cooler heads and common sense needs to prevail.
a massive change in the way we govern and operate.
Although it'll probably never happen (never say never...) but I think no more career politicians. You serve your four years or whatever and you're done. No pensions either. Have a REAL job and serve your constituents then take a hike.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on April 29, 2022, 05:23:46 PM
I try never say never. I've been adamant against, first the Cloud concept, it's stupid, a ripoff and I avoid it every chance I get. Next, Windows 10, I swore I would NEVER ever go to Win10, I'd go Linux first. Well, I ran myself into a corner the other day, I saw an ad for Office 2021 at a good discount and as I'm still using Office 2003 I thought it worth the investment. Of course totally not thinking about whom I was dealing with I bought it and went to install it and it said MUST BE INSTALLED ON A WINDOWS 10 MACHINE. In that instant the "duh" was all over me! It was non-refundable of course, so I was stuck. But, I had a spare PC that arrived as Win10 and I hed converted it to back to Win8.1 and I thought ok, I'll just put 10 on there and install and whatever. So, I started into it and like all upgrades, nothing went well and after two days of fighting I won and got Win10 installed - the one thing I swore I'd NEVER EVER do?

The dream list you describe with term limits, no pensions etc takes us back to the founding days and the spirit of our governance - and that will NEVER happen. Maybe some limited terms and I can't imagine any of the perks of the job going away which compared to dolling out $30B here and $30B there is chicken feed. Why not doll out $30B to us folks living in inflation on Social Security? - but, I digress. The thing we all forget to factor into these hopes and wishes for elected people is that they are two things, humans with human nature and secondly they are snakes, that's why they became politicians. Once you accept those two things you understand why things are the way they are - at least until we the voters to change them.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jim_S on April 29, 2022, 06:56:31 PM
Went back to the beginning of this thread. October of 2014. Hard to believe it's been 8 years. A lot of those posters from back then are long gone. :-(
Thanks for the suggestion, it was fun going through the old posts.

Prices are a little over $4 here. Early this week I filled up at $4.27 now the same station is down to $4.19.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on April 30, 2022, 07:01:48 AM
Cooler heads and common sense needs to prevail.
a massive change in the way we govern and operate.
Although it'll probably never happen (never say never...) but I think no more career politicians. You serve your four years or whatever and you're done. No pensions either. Have a REAL job and serve your constituents then take a hike.
Agree 100%. Most politicians go into the business wanting to do the right thing but DC and the money corrupts them. Having fresh faces every 4 years would be great.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on May 18, 2022, 04:53:41 AM
Headline today is over 6 dollars in places.

Our average is equal too over 6 USD.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on May 18, 2022, 05:28:48 AM
As far as I'm concerned, this thread has become irrelevant. Time to act.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: broadstairs on May 18, 2022, 06:30:08 AM
You guys are lucky we here in the UK pay about £1.60 a litre for unleaded (in a supermarket) and around £1.75+ a litre for diesel! That's about $1.99 and $2.17 litre prices respectively.

Stuart
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SoMDWx on May 19, 2022, 09:49:22 AM
Cooler heads and common sense needs to prevail.
a massive change in the way we govern and operate.
Although it'll probably never happen (never say never...) but I think no more career politicians. You serve your four years or whatever and you're done. No pensions either. Have a REAL job and serve your constituents then take a hike.
Agree 100%. Most politicians go into the business wanting to do the right thing but DC and the money corrupts them. Having fresh faces every 4 years would be great.

Well here is the flip on that...what if the person in office is doing a great job? You want to force them out then after 4 years?

The problem lies with the constituents who repeatedly elect non-functioning/ corrupt reps... Many have no understanding on the basis and history how this country came about nor the form  and processes of the government...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on May 19, 2022, 06:11:41 PM
Cooler heads and common sense needs to prevail.
a massive change in the way we govern and operate.
Although it'll probably never happen (never say never...) but I think no more career politicians. You serve your four years or whatever and you're done. No pensions either. Have a REAL job and serve your constituents then take a hike.
Agree 100%. Most politicians go into the business wanting to do the right thing but DC and the money corrupts them. Having fresh faces every 4 years would be great.

The problem lies with the constituents who repeatedly elect non-functioning/ corrupt reps...
You make the point exactly. The bad ones out number the good ones by tenfold, but the mindless will still put them right back in. What's the definition of insanity... doing the same thing and expect different results? Like Forrest said "Stupid is as stupid does."  :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on May 31, 2022, 10:10:31 AM
I filled up yesterday, Memorial Day, for $4.05/gal. The price had actually come down from $4.19 a couple of weeks ago. I've been watching prices up through OK, KS and NE for my trip at the end of July and they seem to be holding reasonably low compared to some areas in the country. But, overall this month blew my budget for food and gas!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on May 31, 2022, 06:53:04 PM
$4.96 for regular at Naperville, Illinois Costco today. Unfortunately, I have to use premium in my car and that was $5.63 per gallon!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on May 31, 2022, 07:08:18 PM
Ouch $5.63/gal, that hurts. I use premium in my lawn tractor, but we're in an extreme drought this year and so I've not mowed yet except the leach field. I looked at the 5 gal can the other day and thought no way I'm spending $25 for a can of gas for a lawn mower? I normally start mowing late March and several times until now, but we're a desert this year, it's sad. And, I've noticed a lot of road kill deer, I suppose with it being as dry as it is they're having to move around more to find edible forage and some don't make it home at night.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Mark / Ohio on June 06, 2022, 11:26:10 PM
Our local prices jumped this afternoon 20 cents per gallon between 1pm and 2pm to $5.09.  Diesel went to $5.99.  I saw them starting to change on gas buddy and made a run across town with my empty 5 gal generator / lawnmower reserve can and my mother's car that was getting down as the closest station 2 mile down the road had already increased.  But didn't make it in time.   ](*,)

Fortunately I filled my truck up a few days earlier but even with 10 cents/gal off in Kroger rewards was still $72 for 18 gallons.  I know we are doing better here then many places but the local internet group was having a discussion the other day about at what point the cost of gas would make their commute to work no longer worthwhile.  Lot of the locals run a 60-70 mile daily work commute here.  I know some rural folks in the county to our South running over 100 mile commute to work everyday  The big city slickers and politicians talk about riding a bike or taking a bus or train or the best one, just buy an electric car.  Just shows how clueless they are to what is really happening in the more rural areas of the country.  My newest vehicle is  1998 Silverado with 153K miles.  I bought it in 1998 with around 10K mile on it.  Guy traded it off early for a Nissan because he changed jobs and the MPG was killing him.  Hoping the silver cloud of this will be truck prices returning to a more sane amount before rust disintegrates mine out from underneath me.  I refuse to pay $40,50,60K for a daily driver work vehicle.  That's just absurd.  You can buy a Cadillac and a trailer for that!   :lol:

Thankfully my commute at least for now is about 12 miles round trip to work and back through the city at the top speed of 35mph.  Still a bit much for an out of shape 55 year old to do on a bike with a trailer towing a tool box an other tools.   [tup]
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on June 07, 2022, 12:08:15 AM
The big city slickers and politicians talk about riding a bike or taking a bus or train or the best one, just buy an electric car.  Just shows how clueless they are to what is really happening
At first, I think we all believed this. However, the writing has now long since been on the wall that this is all intentional, at the price of its citizens.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Mark / Ohio on June 07, 2022, 01:10:19 AM
The big city slickers and politicians talk about riding a bike or taking a bus or train or the best one, just buy an electric car.  Just shows how clueless they are to what is really happening
At first, I think we all believed this. However, the writing has now long since been on the wall that this is all intentional, at the price of its citizens.

I would have to agree.  I should rephrase that to intentional in the top tiers of the current government command chain with many clueless followers backing them up.  Worse it's only one of numerous topics of discussion that description could be applied to.  I'll leave it that.  I've been around here too long to make the guys have to ban me for an off forum topic political rant.   ;)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on June 19, 2022, 03:27:34 PM
I drove to Philly and back last week. Took more stuff to Philly to move my kid into an apartment.

Gas prices all over the place

Wisconsin 4.87
Illinois      5.59
Indiana     5.35
Ohio         4.95
Penn         5.27
NJ            4.93

Indiana turnpike sucks. Pave that sucker better.
I-76 is the worse designed interstate I have ever been on.

NJ-people can pump their own gas!!!!! Millions of people do it every day around the world. I have been doing it since I was 6. In a lawn mower without an automatic shut off.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on June 19, 2022, 03:50:13 PM
Murphy's is showing $4.32 today. My trip isn't until the end of July so we'll see what the mid country charges.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 19, 2022, 05:42:26 PM
Milk is more than a gallon of gas here milk the cheaper off-brand $5.17 gas 10% corn $4.70. Well, that was yesterday's prices could have changed today. 7.5 oz can of Campbells chicken noodle soup $2.19
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on June 19, 2022, 07:15:08 PM

I-76 is the worse designed interstate I have ever been on.

NJ-people can pump their own gas!!!!!
PA turnpike is the absolute pits. Be glad it's not winter.

I think you meant to say can't pump their own gas. Been that way since...well, never mind.  :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: chief-david on June 20, 2022, 07:59:46 AM
Maybe I should have been more sarcastic

Dear NJ,
 
People CAN pump their own gas. Your residents must be stupid.

Sincerely,
The rest of the world.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on June 20, 2022, 06:54:55 PM
Ahh, I see what you meant now.  #-o  I'll leave it at that.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on June 21, 2022, 03:21:39 PM
Question: Aren't there laws against price fixing? Seems I've heard of them in the past. Ok, so when I look at Gas Buddy for either of my two local towns for gas, the stations are all exactly to the cent the same! - now, that ain't coincidence, that's price fixing for sure! - yeah I know, retailers can sell at any price they want, but wow, it definitely kills the "free market" big time!

Now, in MX that was gov gas so it was all the same price, the only difference was which station cheated more on the amount their pumps delivered for the pesos.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: worachj on June 21, 2022, 03:40:41 PM
Minnesota use to have a law requiring a station to set their prices at least 8 cents a gallon (I think) above their purchase price so that the larger retail stations couldn't under cut the smaller mom and pop stations and force them out of business.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on June 21, 2022, 03:54:46 PM
Question: Aren't there laws against price fixing? Seems I've heard of them in the past. Ok, so when I look at Gas Buddy for either of my two local towns for gas, the stations are all exactly to the cent the same! - now, that ain't coincidence, that's price fixing for sure! - yeah I know, retailers can sell at any price they want, but wow, it definitely kills the "free market" big time!

Now, in MX that was gov gas so it was all the same price, the only difference was which station cheated more on the amount their pumps delivered for the pesos.

Maybe price gouging for sure but few laws are actually enforced unless you offend someone using the wrong pronouns.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on July 04, 2022, 09:29:22 AM
WOW, UNDER $4 A GALLON! Yes, in Marble Falls several are selling at $3.98/gal. I guess they listened when the Pres said LOWER YOUR PRICES and they did! - yeah sure and chickens moo!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on July 04, 2022, 10:10:10 AM
Prices all over the place here. From 4.69 to 4.17. At least the trend is going down.
Nice to see prices below $4 Steve
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on July 04, 2022, 05:12:42 PM
Nice to see prices below $4 Steve
Not looking a gift horse in the mouth, but it's still lipstick on a pig.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on July 04, 2022, 05:27:43 PM
I hear you, but with my trip to NE coming at end of month I'm looking for any good news I can imagine. And, NE just raised their gas tax the first of the month? Looks like OK and KS are better so I'll just not buy any in NE, not that it makes a lot of difference, but whatever?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on July 04, 2022, 05:33:14 PM
Nice to see prices below $4 Steve
Not looking a gift horse in the mouth, but it's still lipstick on a pig.
You're right but 4 is better then 5. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Phil23 on July 05, 2022, 07:38:29 PM
Doing Great here in Regional Aus.

Yesterday's Diesel Price was $2.39.9 per Litre; call it a neat $2.40AUD.

$1.63 USD/l pans out at $6.20USD/US Gal.

An excise will go back on in September which would bump the $2.40 to $2.60.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on July 06, 2022, 12:31:15 PM
I topped off this morning at $3.94 in Marble Falls, so it's a slight improvement but?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on July 07, 2022, 08:05:19 PM
You can't make this up. You just can't. I'll leave it there.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/gop-hammers-biden-allowing-emergency-oil-reserves-china-compromising-energy-security
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on July 07, 2022, 08:33:36 PM
Maybe more details from a largely neutral source:

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-us-reserves-head-overseas-gasoline-prices-stay-high-2022-07-05/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on July 07, 2022, 08:50:36 PM
Maybe more details from a largely neutral source:

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-us-reserves-head-overseas-gasoline-prices-stay-high-2022-07-05/
It's flat WRONG. We should never have been put in this position in the first place, but here we are, and tapping our SPR is the LAST thing we should be screwing with. But, LOL, what in the bleep do I know..   :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on July 07, 2022, 09:35:46 PM
I'm not sure it's so hard to understand why we are in this current state:
1) two plus years of Covid-19 effects on worldwide economies including 'keep alive' payouts to people with layoffs from jobs due to Covid mitigation responses.
2) 20+ years of extending supply chains to just-in-time manufacturing overseas with ready shipping by boat/air to keep factories/stores running, leading to shutdown of domestic manufacturing on some now-critical items.
3) inelastic crude oil supplies controlled mainly by OPEC and oil companies putting shareholder returns before all else.
4) just when the world was emerging from the main Covid epidemic, Russia becomes a pariah by invading Ukraine, leading to international sanctions on Russian products, including 10% of the world's oil supply.  That exacerbates (3) above as the supply dwindles.
5) domestic crude oil production has reduced due to a variety of factors: Cost of production v.s. price of crude oil on the market, fracking causing ground settlement/earthquakes in some areas, enforcement of clean air regulations made it unprofitable for some operations to continue.

Regarding sending crude offshore, it was likely due to pre-existing contracts with refiners and non-sanctioned international countries, and the total amount shipped offshore is small compared to overall domestic production and releases from the Strategic Petroleum Reserves.

The world (most Europe, NATO countries) are in a 'proxy fight' with Russia in Ukraine.  Things won't get markedly better (gas prices lower) until the oil companies stop buying back stock (shareholder value) and instead seek new production.  Also, ending the Ukraine conflict w/o starting WW3 would be good.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on July 07, 2022, 09:51:44 PM
I'm not sure it's so hard to understand why we are in this current state:
1) two plus years of Covid-19 effects on worldwide economies including 'keep alive' payouts to people with layoffs from jobs due to Covid mitigation responses.
2) 20+ years of extending supply chains to just-in-time manufacturing overseas with ready shipping by boat/air to keep factories/stores running, leading to shutdown of domestic manufacturing on some now-critical items.
3) inelastic crude oil supplies controlled mainly by OPEC and oil companies putting shareholder returns before all else.
4) just when the world was emerging from the main Covid epidemic, Russia becomes a pariah by invading Ukraine, leading to international sanctions on Russian products, including 10% of the world's oil supply.  That exacerbates (3) above as the supply dwindles.
5) domestic crude oil production has reduced due to a variety of factors: Cost of production v.s. price of crude oil on the market, fracking causing ground settlement/earthquakes in some areas, enforcement of clean air regulations made it unprofitable for some operations to continue.

Regarding sending crude offshore, it was likely due to pre-existing contracts with refiners and non-sanctioned international countries, and the total amount shipped offshore is small compared to overall domestic production and releases from the Strategic Petroleum Reserves.

The world (most Europe, NATO countries) are in a 'proxy fight' with Russia in Ukraine.  Things won't get markedly better (gas prices lower) until the oil companies stop buying back stock (shareholder value) and instead seek new production.  Also, ending the Ukraine conflict w/o starting WW3 would be good.
Party line. Everybody's fault but ours.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Jumpin Joe on July 07, 2022, 09:53:58 PM
I'm not sure it's so hard to understand why we are in this current state:
1) two plus years of Covid-19 effects on worldwide economies including 'keep alive' payouts to people with layoffs from jobs due to Covid mitigation responses.
2) 20+ years of extending supply chains to just-in-time manufacturing overseas with ready shipping by boat/air to keep factories/stores running, leading to shutdown of domestic manufacturing on some now-critical items.
3) inelastic crude oil supplies controlled mainly by OPEC and oil companies putting shareholder returns before all else.
4) just when the world was emerging from the main Covid epidemic, Russia becomes a pariah by invading Ukraine, leading to international sanctions on Russian products, including 10% of the world's oil supply.  That exacerbates (3) above as the supply dwindles.
5) domestic crude oil production has reduced due to a variety of factors: Cost of production v.s. price of crude oil on the market, fracking causing ground settlement/earthquakes in some areas, enforcement of clean air regulations made it unprofitable for some operations to continue.

Regarding sending crude offshore, it was likely due to pre-existing contracts with refiners and non-sanctioned international countries, and the total amount shipped offshore is small compared to overall domestic production and releases from the Strategic Petroleum Reserves.

The world (most Europe, NATO countries) are in a 'proxy fight' with Russia in Ukraine.  Things won't get markedly better (gas prices lower) until the oil companies stop buying back stock (shareholder value) and instead seek new production.  Also, ending the Ukraine conflict w/o starting WW3 would be good.

Very well stated Ken. It is not one thing or one person….. we’ve been heading down this road for awhile.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on July 07, 2022, 10:05:12 PM
It's not 'party line', it's just the way the western world arranged itself over many years.  Manufacturers, eager for low costs, moved manufacturing from domestic to international.  That worked as long as the inexpensive transport supply chain worked -- it failed during Covid due to Covid responses in international manufacturing sites.

The 'inexpensive transport' depended on reasonable elasticity in the supply-demand chain for oil/oil products .. that too broke down with curtailment of supply from Russia due to sanctions.  It didn't help that the US enjoyed a much lower price for gasoline/diesel than the rest of the western world for quite a while -- that's now ended and our prices are closer to what western countries pay for the product.

Don't immerse yourself in an echo chamber of umbrage/conspiracy theories -- this is a complex problem not amenable to simple 'party' soundbites for solution.  Read majority unbiased News from Reuters, AP, Economist to get a better overall perspective.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WheatonRon on July 07, 2022, 10:15:53 PM


Don't immerse yourself in an echo chamber of umbrage/conspiracy theories -- this is a complex problem not amenable to simple 'party' soundbites for solution.  Read majority unbiased News from Reuters, AP, Economist to get a better overall perspective.

Ken, a lot of what you state is directionally correct but AP being unbiased?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on July 07, 2022, 10:25:41 PM
Don't immerse yourself in an echo chamber of umbrage/conspiracy theories --
I'll let that go.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on July 07, 2022, 11:36:49 PM
You might check out the Media Bias shown at

https://adfontesmedia.com/static-mbc/?utm_source=HomePage_StaticMBC_Button&utm_medium=OnWebSite_Button

I tend to follow the news from the ones near/in the top layer and discount those in the bottom rungs.  Yes, AP, Reuters are both noted for fact-based reporting w/o 'analysis'. 

Also see https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart

and maybe https://guides.lib.umich.edu/c.php?g=637508&p=4484724 too.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: SnowHiker on July 08, 2022, 12:28:20 PM
You might check this out:

Complex or clickbait?: The problematic Media Bias Chart,  https://acrlog.org/2021/02/23/complex-or-clickbait-the-problematic-media-bias-chart/

But then, probably not if the chart backs up what you already want to believe. 

If you want to believe that the current administration's energy policies and stated goal to destroy petroleum has nothing to do with the price of fuel, and that to say otherwise is a conspiracy theory, you'll do that.

If you really want to believe that the current administration's weakness has nothing to do with Russia's actions, and to say otherwise is a conspiracy theory, you'll do that.

And I'm sure you'll still say that to suggest we overreacted in fear to COVID despite all the obvious consequences, while at the same time refusing to investigate the origin, is a ''conspiracy theory".

And while you pick and choose what you want to believe, even if you can't refute the "conspiracy theories" with actual facts, and not just pointing to other biased news sources or even "fact checkers", you'll still consider yourselves to be intellectually and morally superior to those who don't automatically swallow the party line.

This kind of mindlessness and its destructive results repeats itself throughout history.  But then, man learns from history that man learns nothing from history.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on July 12, 2022, 04:40:15 PM
While resisting the temptation to dive into politics, lowest price for gas in Stillwater is $3.89 at the usual place, Murphy's.  I think it peaked out at around $4.69.

It was nice to see price of oil take a big hit today, 7/12, now below $100 again.  Hopefully, it will stay under $100. 

If you want to move to the land of lower gas prices, then city of Stillwater is offering a $7000+ incentive to move there in return for becoming a remote worker and agreeing to buy a house.  If you want a much bigger city, Tulsa is offering something similar for $10,000.

https://www.makemymove.com/get-paid/stillwater-oklahoma (https://www.makemymove.com/get-paid/stillwater-oklahoma)
https://tulsaremote.com (https://tulsaremote.com)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on July 12, 2022, 04:48:07 PM
I'm holding my breath, we're at $3.82 so my trip budget is looking better.

I hear you on the jumping into politics, the ones who know the truth don't need preaching to and the other 20%? - well, no sense wasting words trying to turn a sows ear into a silk purse.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on July 15, 2022, 07:37:59 PM
$3.69 today in Marble Falls. Still a long ways to go to be reasonable.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on July 15, 2022, 09:09:19 PM
Here, we're still getting $5.89 to $6.13 range which is about $0.40 less -- going in the right direction.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on July 16, 2022, 02:58:02 PM
Here, we're still getting $5.89 to $6.13 range which is about $0.40 less -- going in the right direction.
Wow. That's exspensive. Made it to 5 here. Now down to 3.86.
Keep waiting for the inevitable jump of .40 overnight.  :-( But at least it is still going down.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on July 28, 2022, 04:57:41 PM
3.57 here. $67 to fill up yesterday.
Beats the $102 from a few weeks back.  :-)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on July 28, 2022, 07:18:21 PM
I actually filled at 1.68/l instead of 2 or a bit more.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on July 28, 2022, 11:24:00 PM
I'm on the road in Oklahoma tonite, I filled up in Ardmore for $3.59/gal which has generally been the price all the way up from central Texas. I'll fillup tomorrow in Wichita and again in NE where it will be higher.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on July 29, 2022, 09:57:18 PM
The lowest gas price in Stillwater has fallen to $3.27 for E10.

The most popular page on my weather site is the gas price page for Stillwater:

https://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html (https://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on July 29, 2022, 10:56:40 PM
Two odd things happened today, I filled up N of Wichita for $3.35, but then I got to Hastings, NE and they have that same strange disease some of us have seen other places, suddenly every gas station is town is exactly the same at $3.94 a gallon? - seems we've seen this before, very curious!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on July 30, 2022, 06:00:58 AM
Two odd things happened today, I filled up N of Wichita for $3.35, but then I got to Hastings, NE and they have that same strange disease some of us have seen other places, suddenly every gas station is town is exactly the same at $3.94 a gallon? - seems we've seen this before, very curious!
I would really like to know how this process works.  Does some CEO somewhere have his employees send out mass emails to all gas stations to raise prices? And what prompts it? It's very unsettling to think that just a few people control a commodity like this that affects millions of people and industry.
We'll probably never know.  :sad: 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: gwwilk on July 30, 2022, 06:14:18 AM
Here in Nebraska it is fairly easy to understand.  The largest local retailer bought out competitors and built new stations while owning the distribution apparatus.  This enabled him/them to corner the market and pass on to everyone what they demanded as a 'fair' price while they expanded their reign.  Those who control wholesale distribution also control the price.  Hence the lockstep price-fixing at the pump.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on July 30, 2022, 01:03:31 PM
Can you shoot me his/their email.
Need to let them know the price is too high.
 :grin:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 02, 2022, 07:37:52 PM
In Hastings, NE I put in 10 gal at $3.97 to get me back to cheaper gas in KS. I cut it a bit close and drove the last 16 miles with no AC and at 65MPH, when I rolled into Love's at McPherson my trip computer said 0 miles to empty, but I got a bonus, the price had dropped to $3.19. On down to home in TX it was still in the high $3.40's or higher. This was a family reunion and even at "Go Brandon" gas prices it was worth it to see family.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on August 02, 2022, 07:50:20 PM
drove the last 16 miles with no AC
Then I assume you had the windows down? If so, it's been pretty much proved that having AC on vs no AC and windows down actually consumes more fuel due to drag. Stay cool brother!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 02, 2022, 07:54:33 PM
Nope, popped the sunroof up but windows up. This is why I never win the lottery, I use up all my good luck on stupid things and never win the big one?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on August 02, 2022, 08:00:30 PM
This is why I never win the lottery, I use up all my good luck on stupid things and never win the big one?
Since this is a wx forum...your chance of being struck by lighting is greater. I know, turd in every punch bowl..
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on August 03, 2022, 03:22:39 PM
3.19 eh.
Unfortunately it's going back up here.
Got to 3.47 then in one day jumped to 3.79.
 :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on August 04, 2022, 03:14:57 PM
In Stillwater, the lowest price is now $3.22 for E10.  Down from $3.24.  Good to see price of oil drop to the upper 80s today, Thursday.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on August 06, 2022, 11:35:01 PM
Oklahoma may be the first state where gas has fallen below $3 a gallon. In Yukon, a west side suburb of OKC, gas is $2.97 at OnCue Express and $2.99 at 7/11. Maybe they are in a price war.

In Stillwater, the lowest price has dropped again, now $3.13 by the Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market.  Second lowest is $3.15 at Murphy's, both E10. 7/11 is coming soon to Stillwater with a new station currently under construction.  Interestingly enough, its address will be 711 N. Main.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: jcd59f on August 07, 2022, 07:59:29 AM
 :roll: :roll:  What !!! in France it s  7.011 €/gallon whith conversion of  ...  1.845 €/L and two months ago, it was 7.6 $/ Gal :eek: :shock:  welcome to Europe  =D&gt;
 
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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on August 07, 2022, 12:19:20 PM
Oklahoma may be the first state where gas has fallen below $3 a gallon. In Yukon, a west side suburb of OKC, gas is $2.97 at OnCue Express and $2.99 at 7/11. Maybe they are in a price war.

In Stillwater, the lowest price has dropped again, now $3.13 by the Wal-Mart Neighborhood Market.  Second lowest is $3.15 at Murphy's, both E10. 7/11 is coming soon to Stillwater with a new station currently under construction.  Interestingly enough, its address will be 711 N. Main.
That's great to hear that gas is below $3.
Hopefully in time the rest of the country will be there.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on August 25, 2022, 03:30:45 PM
Made it to 3.17 then overnight it went to 3.59.
Grrrrr.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 25, 2022, 04:00:27 PM
Marble Falls is $3.01, I hope it holds over the weekend, I'm going to make a border run to MX Tues so will fill up Monday.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: racer3 on August 26, 2022, 05:49:53 AM
Went up .30 in two days. was $3.29, now it is $3.59. :x
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bashy on August 28, 2022, 12:00:37 AM
Its about $10 here in the UK
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on August 28, 2022, 04:39:38 AM
Its about $10 here in the UK
That's insane.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bashy on August 28, 2022, 04:50:29 AM
Its about $10 here in the UK
That's insane.

Our electric and house gas is insane too, going up 80% soon that's on top of the 54% rise in April and more next year
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on August 28, 2022, 06:30:06 AM
Its about $10 here in the UK
That's insane.

Our electric and house gas is insane too, going up 80% soon that's on top of the 54% rise in April and more next year
Yeah, that situation in Ukraine has Europe in a bad place.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BaseLine on August 30, 2022, 06:33:44 AM
How the petrol price has changed in US:
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/gasoline-prices-adjusted-for-inflation/
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BaseLine on August 30, 2022, 06:46:33 AM
Its about $10 here in the UK
That's insane.

Our electric and house gas is insane too, going up 80% soon that's on top of the 54% rise in April and more next year
Yeah, that situation in Ukraine has Europe in a bad place.

Situation in Ukraine has been bad for over 8  years now. It's political virtue signalling that has caused this self inflicted crisis in EU and in US.
Add Germany closing it's nuclear PP's and refusing to pay for the gas... and here we are.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on August 30, 2022, 08:09:52 AM
I filled up in Marble Falls at $3.02 and again in Del Rio for $3.29, so not too bad all things considered.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on September 07, 2022, 04:37:35 PM
WOW? - we broke the $3 in Marble Falls today at $2.99 at a couple of stations. Who would have guessed a few months ago this was exciting?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on September 07, 2022, 06:12:53 PM
I was quite surprised to see a sudden 15ish percent drop up our way.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on September 07, 2022, 07:35:42 PM
WOW? - we broke the $3 in Marble Falls today at $2.99 at a couple of stations. Who would have guessed a few months ago this was exciting?
It's dropped to $2.99 at two locations here.

The most popular page at my weather site is not about weather; it's about gas prices.

https://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html (https://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BaseLine on September 09, 2022, 02:52:16 AM
WOW? - we broke the $3 in Marble Falls today at $2.99 at a couple of stations. Who would have guessed a few months ago this was exciting?
It's dropped to $2.99 at two locations here.

The most popular page at my weather site is not about weather; it's about gas prices.

https://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html (https://stillwaterweather.com/stillwatergasprices.html)

So, your petrol is actually cheaper than it has been in past 40 years or so?
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/gasoline-prices-adjusted-for-inflation/

Meanwhile in news: JPMorgan Expects OPEC+ To Cut Another 1 Million b/d In Output ...
Oil cartel will take care of that ;)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: WeatherHost on September 10, 2022, 09:00:19 AM
Anybody know anything about this Gas Buddy card?

https://www.gasbuddy.com/pay

"
    Saves 5x as much as our app and more than either a debit or gas credit card.
    Fill-ups are effortlessly deducted from your linked debit card.
    No credit check required. Sign up in minutes.
    No bills, no hassles, and nothing to fund. Just savings. "

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on November 22, 2022, 01:53:03 AM
https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/tulsa-gas-prices-drop-below-3-per-gallon-for-first-time-since-january/article_c662a4fa-6907-11ed-97ee-d723211299f7.html#tracking-source=home-top-story (https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/tulsa-gas-prices-drop-below-3-per-gallon-for-first-time-since-january/article_c662a4fa-6907-11ed-97ee-d723211299f7.html#tracking-source=home-top-story)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 22, 2022, 08:11:01 AM
We've been below $3 for some time, now at $2.68.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on November 22, 2022, 03:44:19 PM
Dam Steve!
2.68?
Florida is about 3.35.
That's a big swing.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 22, 2022, 03:58:10 PM
Yeah, I filled up in Burnet this morning at $2.75 on my way Austin to test drive a Caddy SRX, time for a new toy? But prices have been good for a time now. Groceries not so much?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: vreihen on November 22, 2022, 04:01:12 PM
Feel free to come up this way, where diesel is $6.07!

Thankfully, we have two electric cars, and one diesel (only driven for road trips) in our driveway.....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on November 22, 2022, 06:07:44 PM
This is what happens when our beloved "POTUS" drains our SPR down to nothing. Brilliant.   :twisted:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on November 22, 2022, 06:41:48 PM
This is what happens when our beloved "POTUS" drains our SPR down to nothing. Brilliant.   :twisted:
This is likely a false assignment of causality.  The SPR releases (https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCSSTUS1&f=W) try to mitigate some of the supply shortfall as a result of sanctions against Russia for the invasion of Ukraine, OPEC cutting production targets in the face of rising demand as the world resumes demand as the Covid pandemic/restrictions wane.  It’s not under direct control of a President or any one nation as it is a worldwide market.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Vasco on November 22, 2022, 06:48:33 PM
According to RAC, average prices in UK today are 163.24p for E10 unleaded and 187.42p for diesel - that's pence per litre.

So 6.18/7.09 GBP, or about 7.35/8.44 USD per US gallon.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on November 22, 2022, 06:57:04 PM
This is what happens when our beloved "POTUS" drains our SPR down to nothing. Brilliant.   :twisted:
This is likely a false assignment of causality.  The SPR releases (https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCSSTUS1&f=W) try to mitigate some of the supply shortfall as a result of sanctions against Russia for the invasion of Ukraine, OPEC cutting production targets in the face of rising demand as the world resumes demand as the Covid pandemic/restrictions wane.  It’s not under direct control of a President or any one nation as it is a worldwide market.
Oh please... I've heard this drivel ad nauseam. We're in this crisis because this admin put us here...top to bottom. Is it all Joey's fault? No, but he damn sure makes it infinitely worse. All the "pundits" can spew this crap til the cows come home. I do my homework.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on November 22, 2022, 07:25:21 PM
Do more homework, and use sources that report facts instead of inventions. 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on November 22, 2022, 07:28:49 PM
Right....
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Vasco on November 22, 2022, 07:40:49 PM
Feel free to come up this way, where diesel is $6.07!

Thankfully, we have two electric cars, and one diesel (only driven for road trips) in our driveway.....

Thankfully, you probably don't get your power shut off as a precaution in fire season - like PG&E does in California - so you can't charge your electric cars..
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BaseLine on November 23, 2022, 07:31:13 AM
Do more homework, and use sources that report facts instead of inventions.

"...According to new data released from the Energy Information Administration, our oil reserves stockpile is down to just 396 million barrels. The sharp drop, now down to its lowest level since April 1984, isn’t due to natural disasters, trade embargoes, or acts of God, but instead due to politics..."

"... This concerning reality could have been avoided if President Biden had prioritized American energy production, specifically of crude oil and natural gas. Instead, his administration has championed harmful oil and gas policies that have handcuffed the energy sector. He canceled the Keystone XL pipeline, halted new drilling on federal lands, implemented regulatory hurdles, and raised taxes on energy companies. "

edit: "...  oil production is far short of where it was prior to the pandemic. In 2019, the U.S. Energy Information Administration calculated that we produced roughly 12.3 million barrels per day, but in 2021, we produced roughly a million fewer barrels than that period.

Despite the ongoing energy crisis, and with gas prices beginning to creep back up to an average of $4 per gallon, this president is unwilling to encourage more oil from U.S. producers. The White House and Department of Energy signaled all options are on the table to stabilize prices and now they’re pivoting back to tapping the SPR again. In mid-October, the Biden administration announced it will withdraw another 15 million barrels over the next few weeks to lower prices before the midterm elections."
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 23, 2022, 04:55:38 PM
Everything is politicized, get used to it.

I filled up at $2.65 today at Murphys for my Tday dinner in San Antonio and probably the following day trip to Dallas to look at a(nother) Cadillac SRX. I'm determined to do something dumb? But, at 79 I've never owned a red car or a Cadillac, so maybe it's time? - before there is no time?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BaseLine on November 25, 2022, 06:47:24 AM
Everything is politicized, get used to it.

I filled up at $2.65 today at Murphys for my Tday dinner in San Antonio and probably the following day trip to Dallas to look at a(nother) Cadillac SRX. I'm determined to do something dumb? But, at 79 I've never owned a red car or a Cadillac, so maybe it's time? - before there is no time?

Be happy you paid that little. In EU, it's still about 2x more expensive.
If you take a look at US inflation, you never (past 50 y or so) had cheaper petrol than you do now.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: DaleReid on November 28, 2022, 11:01:45 AM
A bit of a change, but still FUEL prices.

In my area gasoline is down nearly a dollar since the high this summer.  $2.81 at Fleet Farm, with 4 ¢ a gallon off coupon.

I'm happy for it, and I don't drive more just because gasoline is 'cheaper' than it was.

Here's my question.  Much of the commerce here depends upon hauling stuff with either train locomotives powered by diesel or semi tractors burning it, too. 

Diesel used to be about the same price as gasoline, or cheaper, and contained more energy per gallon, so it was a way to get more moved at a lesser price.

Now while gasoline has gone down substantially, diesel price per gallon has hardly budged.

I am a physicist, not a chemical engineer, but from talking with some of those guys  in the past, I had the impression that in general crude oil was all about the same, with each gallon producing some lighter elements such as solvents, then gasoline, then heavier stuff like diesel and then tarry stuff for doing roads and such.  The proportion didn't seem to vary much whether the oil came from one location or another.  If they are still getting about the same amounts from each gallon of crude, why did gas prices fall while diesel hasn't much if any?

Is it all profiteering? 
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 28, 2022, 11:17:12 AM
The only profiteering going on here is the Gov getting fat! How would you like to have a guaranteed income from something you never ever spent a penny to discover, to produce, to ship and market? - sounds great huh, well, that's profiteering at the Gov level.

But, let's think a little further down the road about EV vehicles. They don't pay a cent in gas tax, but they're darn heavy so are actually putting a disproportionate stress on the roads. So, prepare yourself for a tax to be levied for the miles you drive. Those of us who still drive gas cars will pay at the pump, but the EV's never see a gas pump so they will have to pay monthly with some sort of report for the miles driven. What better group to collect it than the IRS, they just hired 87,000 people to stick it to us out here. And, just to be sure all bases are covered, we gas guzzlers will also pay that tax as punishment for not going EV!

You think I'm kidding?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Weerstation on November 28, 2022, 11:42:17 AM
The Netherlands
1 Euro equals $1.04
1 US Gallon 3.7854 Liter

95 E1.942/L
Diesel E1.913/L
LPG E1.049/L
Super (98) E2.084/L

95 $7.645/US Gallon
Diesel $7.5331/US Gallon
LPG $4.13/US Gallon
Super (98) $8.204/US Gallon

Road taxes E185.00/3 months

70% taxes on gas but no such thing as free healthcare.  :lol:
Healthcare E140/month

 [tup]



Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Vasco on November 28, 2022, 12:02:14 PM
The proportion didn't seem to vary much whether the oil came from one location or another.  If they are still getting about the same amounts from each gallon of crude, why did gas prices fall while diesel hasn't much if any?

As I understand it, once you build a refinery you can't change the proportion of gas to diesel produced: so maybe part of the reason is supply-and-demand pricing?

Food for thought here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_and_diesel_usage_and_pricing).
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 28, 2022, 12:12:34 PM
Now you know why I live in Texas. The Netherlands to Texas comparison is apples and oranges. As I look at my maps, The Netherlands is 243 miles top to bottom, Texas is 215 miles from my house up to Dallas and we're both in the middle of the State, from El Paso to Orange is 880 miles. So, our economies are totally different. And, contrary to what you might have heard, healthcare here is darn expensive although it is available unlike some of the "free" countries like the UK and CA.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on November 28, 2022, 03:32:36 PM
... "free" countries ...

Tee Hee Hee.

40 cents of every tax dollar to Health Care costs me a bundle......whether I use it or not!  ](*,)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on November 28, 2022, 06:18:56 PM
Let's see what our "president" does about the potential RR strike. Think things are expensive now? LOL! We ain't seen nothin' yet. But of course, there's all those 9000 drilling permits being "unused", however the admin doesn't bother telling us WHY they're unused. I think it's called subterfuge, as they throw more hoops to jump through, and that's just for starters. They lie like rugs, and sadly, many people treat it as gospel. This crap MUST stop.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 28, 2022, 06:30:09 PM
YOU GOT IT DEAD ON!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 28, 2022, 06:43:09 PM
Ok, here's a simple question, all this is brought to us  via a vote, this is America, we vote on who/what we want, so why is this happening? - because we want this to happen, or, or, or,? Frankly, I don't remember voting for this?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BaseLine on November 29, 2022, 08:30:50 AM
... They don't pay a cent in gas tax, but they're darn heavy so are actually putting a disproportionate stress on the roads...

The whole push to EV is absurd beyond belief. There is literally no infrastructure in place to charge them if the % of EV's goes up any further. It's not about charging stations. It's about the electric grid that cant deal with it. Also, they better start building new nuclear power plants or this green-cretinism goes up in really thick smoke. And there is nothing green in mining lithium, copper etc. 

Quote
"A new report from the electricity and gas utility National Grid (which serves parts of New York and Massachusetts) found a rapid increase in electric vehicles on the city streets and highways will require upgraded power grids to handle all the new demand. By 2035, a charging station could demand as much power as a sports arena or small town. 

National Grid expects by 2035, large charging stations serving EVs, from SUVs and pickup trucks to delivery vans and semi-trucks, would require 19 megawatts of peak power -- that's approximately what a small town uses. In 2045, those large charging stations could demand upwards of 30 megawatts of capacity, with peak usage of a large manufacturing plant. "

Petrol and diesel are super dense energy carriers. EV batteries are not.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on November 30, 2022, 03:23:50 PM
Do more homework, and use sources that report facts instead of inventions.

"...According to new data released from the Energy Information Administration, our oil reserves stockpile is down to just 396 million barrels. The sharp drop, now down to its lowest level since April 1984, isn’t due to natural disasters, trade embargoes, or acts of God, but instead due to politics..."

"... This concerning reality could have been avoided if President Biden had prioritized American energy production, specifically of crude oil and natural gas. Instead, his administration has championed harmful oil and gas policies that have handcuffed the energy sector. He canceled the Keystone XL pipeline, halted new drilling on federal lands, implemented regulatory hurdles, and raised taxes on energy companies. "

edit: "...  oil production is far short of where it was prior to the pandemic. In 2019, the U.S. Energy Information Administration calculated that we produced roughly 12.3 million barrels per day, but in 2021, we produced roughly a million fewer barrels than that period.

Despite the ongoing energy crisis, and with gas prices beginning to creep back up to an average of $4 per gallon, this president is unwilling to encourage more oil from U.S. producers. The White House and Department of Energy signaled all options are on the table to stabilize prices and now they’re pivoting back to tapping the SPR again. In mid-October, the Biden administration announced it will withdraw another 15 million barrels over the next few weeks to lower prices before the midterm elections."

There hasn't been a refinery built in 20 years, so questionable if higher oil production could get refined faster for lower prices.  Hopefully the diesel shortage won't become nationwide.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ValentineWeather on November 30, 2022, 05:26:56 PM
This is what happens when our beloved "POTUS" drains our SPR down to nothing. Brilliant.   :twisted:
This is likely a false assignment of causality.  The SPR releases (https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=WCSSTUS1&f=W) try to mitigate some of the supply shortfall as a result of sanctions against Russia for the invasion of Ukraine, OPEC cutting production targets in the face of rising demand as the world resumes demand as the Covid pandemic/restrictions wane.  It’s not under direct control of a President or any one nation as it is a worldwide market.
Oh please... I've heard this drivel ad nauseam. We're in this crisis because this admin put us here...top to bottom. Is it all Joey's fault? No, but he damn sure makes it infinitely worse. All the "pundits" can spew this crap til the cows come home. I do my homework.

I would like to give you a Like. This S show is by far the worst in my 6+ decades.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on November 30, 2022, 05:37:47 PM
Thanks. However, I don't think it's 6+ decades, it's in American history. Not even close. Thankfully, we took the House at least. Maybe they can help mitigate some of this insanity. IMO, very bad things will occur otherwise.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on November 30, 2022, 06:32:13 PM
I'm sorry, but I can't even follow some of the previous posts, the logic just eludes me. The reality of the current world outside my door isn't obtuse, it's what it is, why are we determined to obfuscate the obvious! We're in big trouble, wake up and admit it!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BaseLine on December 01, 2022, 06:03:55 AM
I'm sorry, but I can't even follow some of the previous posts, the logic just eludes me. The reality of the current world outside my door isn't obtuse, it's what it is, why are we determined to obfuscate the obvious! We're in big trouble, wake up and admit it!

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Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 01, 2022, 01:51:44 PM
$2.55 this morning at Murphy's.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Wxhound on December 03, 2022, 05:57:49 PM
The real problem is that we are nearing the peak of world oil production if we have not already past it. 
I refer to this graph from Exxon Mobil (4th graph down):
https://corporate.exxonmobil.com/energy-and-innovation/outlook-for-energy/energy-supply (https://corporate.exxonmobil.com/energy-and-innovation/outlook-for-energy/energy-supply)
anything below the Tight Oil top line is used for transportation fuel.  There was a peak in 2019 and the next one is lower and around 2032.
How this will play out is anybody's guess but moving away from the uses of crude oil would be helpful.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 03, 2022, 06:23:19 PM
Uh huh??? Seems I've been hearing this BS since 1970's. We're out of food, oil, water, air, everything but BS! Check back with me in 10 or 20 years and let me know how it's going with your battery powered toys!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Wxhound on December 03, 2022, 07:21:42 PM
Hey  It's from Exxon Mobil.  If you want to argue with them, I'll bring the popcorn!!!

Here's their chart from 2016.  The url is this: https://peakoilbarrel.com/opec-update-november-17-2022/#comment-749377 I could not find the original link and it appears that Exxon has deleted the older data.  You can see the "peak" that everyone was concerned about in 2005 as a Dark Green hump.
It shows the 2005 peak in **Conventional** oil production with an area in light green showing resource depletion.  I think this is the one you are referring to.  Again it is from Exxon Mobil.  Their latest shows a shift to 2032 for a peak in world oil production and a peak around 2019 with a resurgence of a "final peak" around 2032.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 03, 2022, 07:50:29 PM
This would be the same stellar company that put a tanker on the rocks in Alaska? - yeah, I remember, that's when I cut up my Exxon CC.

Let me propose a little learning experience for any of you out there that buy into this claptrap. The next time you're near a book store, a big one (if there are any left?) go in and peruse the Positive Self Help section and see the vast selection of books on how to be positive etc. Then go to the Negative Self Help section of the store - - - and if you can't find it, there's a reason, there isn't one. Human nature exudes negativity, "I can't do it, I won't do it, we're going to die" etc, etc, etc. and that's why no one writes books on how to be negative and fail! You're buying into the oldest scam in history, it's easy to go negative, it takes character, strength and vision to go positive.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BaseLine on December 04, 2022, 05:03:27 AM
The real problem is that we are nearing the peak of world oil production if we have not already past it. 
...

You cant possibly be serious. Never mind...

I posted a nice chart here, that shows how your petrol price got so high. It was removed by admin because it made current US administration look like clueless clowns and demonstrated clearly that war in Ukraine nor "peak oil nonsense" has nothing to do with it. It's just long list of stupid political decisions and virtue signalling.

What about oil in other countries?
First, US gets most of it's oil from Canada and Mexico.
Every ME country, US has attacked or is under their BS sanctions is a oil rich country with massive reserves. Only reason US invades those countries, is to keep their oil production to minimum and rob them of what ever they happen to produce (Syria, for example). It has nothing to do with importing "democracy", burgers and brown sugar water.

The US proxy war in Ukraine is just another example of this but with one exception - they are failing miserably because RU has 2 neighbours - India and China.

RU oil export had a awesome year. So is US. US is earning massive profits from gas and oil and the real losers in this game are EU and cannon fodder known as Ukraine. MIC is ecstatic and predicts massive profits for years to come because EU and US need new weapons.

But that's OK. Sky propellers and thousands of square kilometres of PV panels, while killing everything that lives on those lands, will make it all feel "green" and save the day.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: saratogaWX on December 04, 2022, 09:52:27 AM
The real problem is that we are nearing the peak of world oil production if we have not already past it. 
...

You cant possibly be serious. Never mind...

I posted a nice chart here, that shows how your petrol price got so high. It was removed by admin because it made current US administration look like clueless clowns and demonstrated clearly that war in Ukraine nor "peak oil nonsense" has nothing to do with it. It's just long list of stupid political decisions and virtue signalling.

What about oil in other countries?
First, US gets most of it's oil from Canada and Mexico.
Every ME country, US has attacked or is under their BS sanctions is a oil rich country with massive reserves. Only reason US invades those countries, is to keep their oil production to minimum and rob them of what ever they happen to produce (Syria, for example). It has nothing to do with importing "democracy", burgers and brown sugar water.

The US proxy war in Ukraine is just another example of this but with one exception - they are failing miserably because RU has 2 neighbours - India and China.

RU oil export had a awesome year. So is US. US is earning massive profits from gas and oil and the real losers in this game are EU and cannon fodder known as Ukraine. MIC is ecstatic and predicts massive profits for years to come because EU and US need new weapons.

But that's OK. Sky propellers and thousands of square kilometres of PV panels, while killing everything that lives on those lands, will make it all feel "green" and save the day.

I remind you of what I'd PMed you about your post on 28-Jul-2022 when I removed it:
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I removed your image post in "Gas Prices" as overtly political in nature.  The timeline it showed (with cited events) implied causation which was very misleading.  Gas (and many commodity prices) are not determined by political actions here, but are the result of global issues, many of which we have no control over.  To imply that it was all the administrations fault is not an accurate conclusion.

Please refrain from posting political commentary on the forum, even in Chit Chat .. we're weather enthusiasts.  Political speech has other online venues, just not this one.

It still applies.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BaseLine on December 05, 2022, 04:06:00 AM
The timeline it showed (with cited events) implied causation which was very misleading.  Gas (and many commodity prices) are not determined by political actions here, but are the result of global issues, many of which we have no control over.  To imply that it was all the administrations fault is not an accurate conclusion.

LOL Really? Based on US media muppets, president has no control over the gas and oil price except when it dips a bit and is useful to boost his falling ratings. LOL.  =D&gt; Every single time. Yes, journalism is dead.

Chart shows a timeline of stupid political decisions and the petrol price. Political decisions, like cancelling the Keystone XL, halt on new oil and gas leases, joining the absolutely pointless Paris Climate Accord (again!), blocking investments to gas and oil sectors, reversing NEPA, moratorium in Cahco Canyon drilling and so on... the price keep on climbing. Up ~50% and RU has not even entered UA. This is all political, you like it or not.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 05, 2022, 08:18:05 AM
Or, maybe those are carefully calculated decisions to cause exactly what is happening? Pouring sand into the gears of the great economy machine is guaranteed to produce results!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on December 06, 2022, 03:00:59 AM
$2.55 this morning at Murphy's.

$2.53 for the lowest price in Stillwater.  It too is a Murphy's.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on December 15, 2022, 03:40:45 PM
Woohoo!
Gas below $3 just about everywhere in the county. Lowest is 2.65.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on December 15, 2022, 04:46:21 PM
Anyone notice a trend here...

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/501873_c7e616da2fda4678a1779c2e1d6e1326~mv2.png
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: miraculon on December 16, 2022, 08:30:06 AM
Anyone notice a trend here...

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/501873_c7e616da2fda4678a1779c2e1d6e1326~mv2.png

Eating the seed corn...

Greg H.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 16, 2022, 02:34:52 PM
City folks don't know what that means - - - and most every one inside the DC beltway are "city folks"?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 19, 2022, 05:54:54 PM
I was in Marble Falls today financing groceries? I saw a sign on the HWY for $2.24/gal - I paid $2.26 a can for soup. The road goes on forever and the party never ends?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BaseLine on December 21, 2022, 10:44:02 AM
Anyone notice a trend here...

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/501873_c7e616da2fda4678a1779c2e1d6e1326~mv2.png

Eating the seed corn...

Greg H.


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U.S. crude stockpiles in SPR fell in latest week to lowest since dec 1983 - EIA

They are not just eating the seeds, they are salting the soil now.

Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on December 25, 2022, 02:47:04 AM
Oh, no, gas at $2.55 at Murphy.  It was $2.35.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 25, 2022, 08:04:32 AM
Well, Merry Merry Christmas to one and all from the Texas Hill Country!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on December 30, 2022, 06:15:01 PM
Gas went way up here.
A 30 to 40 cent jump.
Thieves.  :roll:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: davidmc36 on December 30, 2022, 06:54:32 PM
How about equivalent of 6.75/us gal for diesel? Gone out of hand.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on December 30, 2022, 07:11:38 PM
Yep, we're up, happy new year!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's going to be an ugly new year in so many ways as taxes kick in thanks to our elected scum in DC?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on December 30, 2022, 07:13:27 PM
How about equivalent of 6.75/us gal for diesel? Gone out of hand.
And our lowest SPR levels since March 1984 to show for it. Thank you very much.  ](*,)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on January 12, 2023, 05:11:13 PM
Forget gas, I just paid $6.29 for a gallon of milk... ](*,)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: BaseLine on January 13, 2023, 06:00:11 AM
Forget gas, I just paid $6.29 for a gallon of milk... ](*,)

I can get fresh free-range chicken eggs. Wold you like to trade?
1 egg for 5 litres of petrol (95, zero ethanol!).  :grin:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on January 13, 2023, 06:40:58 PM
Forget gas, I just paid $6.29 for a gallon of milk... ](*,)

I can get fresh free-range chicken eggs. Wold you like to trade?
1 egg for 5 litres of petrol (95, zero ethanol!).  :grin:
Thanks, but no thanks. Price sucks (shocking, I know  :roll:), but I gas up with E85.  :grin:
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on January 14, 2023, 05:17:55 AM
Forget gas, I just paid $6.29 for a gallon of milk... ](*,)
6.29?
You need to fire that cow. I just paid 2.95 at Walmart this morning.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on January 14, 2023, 08:51:22 PM
Forget gas, I just paid $6.29 for a gallon of milk... ](*,)
6.29?
You need to fire that cow.
No, not the cow...
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on May 04, 2023, 07:06:16 PM
I was in MX Tuesday and when I came back across at Del Rio I filled up for $2.95 and I see it trending at $2.93 at Murphy's Marble Falls. Now, if it would just continue down or at least stay below $3 I'd appreciate it!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 08, 2023, 11:12:52 AM
Finally below $3 at $2.95 today at Murphys Marble Falls with many stations at $2.99. Must be an election coming up?
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: zeppline on October 08, 2023, 12:40:03 PM
I wish it would stay below $4.00 dollars. Las Vegas today's price $5.09/gallon
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: stevebrtx on October 08, 2023, 01:43:42 PM
Ouch! And the numbers roll up like slot machines!
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Wooks61 on October 08, 2023, 06:09:07 PM
Just under 2€ per litre here.
That's about 8$ per US Gallon.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: CW2274 on October 08, 2023, 06:57:57 PM
I wish it would stay below $4.00 dollars. Las Vegas today's price $5.09/gallon
Same here in Tucson. Hasn't been below $5 in months. That said, depending on how Israel and pending Taiwan pan out, this could very well be the "good 'ole days". Buckle up.
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: Bunty on November 10, 2023, 11:02:04 PM
The cheapest gas in Stillwater as of Friday evening was $2.25 at Murphy's.  So it was kind of busy there.

(http://okie.world/photos/cheapgas.jpg)
Title: Re: Gas Prices
Post by: ocala on November 12, 2023, 11:53:00 AM
2.25 is pretty darn good.
Was at 2.90 here then jumped to 3.29. On its way back down now.