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CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« on: November 25, 2009, 12:34:17 AM »
Ok, I'm gonna try this again & again until this post works. I have been emailing Joe for over a week asking for help getting my registered station on http://www.pwsweather.com/obs/MSSJOPPA1.html but seems no one can figure this one out. I can log in, edit my profile, but no data recd
I did all Joe advised but still won't work. I can even see my VWS 14.0p101 software sending to weatherforyou but still no data when I log onto PWS.
I have noticed two errors on http://www.pwsweather.com/obs/MSSJOPPA1.html & have attached them. I have never seen them ever plus O see them on a completely different PC as well. Take a look. Weird :? :? :? ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2009, 12:39:36 AM »
When you go to your PWS profile, does it say "Active" in your profile? If not, check your VWS again and see if you maybe missing something. If you just uploaded it for the first time, it may take a day or so for it to show up. I know with Weather Underground it's like that.
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2009, 12:46:54 AM »
Hey Doug,

I'm in my PWS profile but all I see is my name, address etc...
Am I in the wrong place :?:
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2009, 01:05:54 AM »
SEE SCREEN SHOT OF MY PROFILE
CAN'T FIND "ACTIVE"
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2009, 01:14:21 AM »
No, you were in the right place. Thanks for the screen cap. I see under your status that it says Old/No Data. Did you update it within the last 48 hours?  In my VWS under WeatherForYou/HAMweather settings, I have it set to update every 1 minute. Did you enter your Username and password in the fields?
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2009, 01:18:49 AM »
Got username & password entered. Plus I see VWS sending to weatherforyou :?: :?: :?:
It's been saying Old/No Data since I registered
It's been over a week & still the same thing :? :? :?
Also, Joe told me to set the update to 15 min. That didn't work so I tried 10 & that didn't work :?
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2009, 01:22:02 AM »
I used a different station ID then on wunderground
The FAQs page says you can do that but I am wondering if that may be an issue?
Tried to change it to same as wunderground but can't figure out how
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2009, 01:32:51 AM »
No I believe WU and PWS are totally diffrent weather sites. I use the same Username for WU and PWS so it's easy for me to remember and others people viewing my data can relate it to the same person easily. It's been a whole week huh? Do you send it to other sites like WU or CWOP? Also how is the internet connection and weather station connection? Those can be a possable issue too.
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2009, 01:38:17 AM »
I send to WU CWOP & weatherbug. No problems
Internet connection great. Cable modem pings at 15mbps or better
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2009, 01:52:03 AM »
Did you look under PWS's Troubleshooting section in their FAQ's. I can't figure out any other reasons for you.  :-(
 If PWS support isn't replying to you, try PM'ing weatherforyou which is a member here and is the mod of the PWS section. Good luck and let me know how it goes.
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2009, 07:54:24 AM »
You might want to consider downloading WUHU or Cumulus just to see if you can get data to PWS.  If one of those free softwares work, then you know there's something going on with VWS.
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2009, 08:59:05 AM »
I have a similar problem uploading to weather4you when I do an upgrade of my VWS software. It usually takes a couple shutdowns and reboots before it starts sending data, but it gets there eventually.

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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2009, 06:01:22 PM »
Here's the latest
After doing all kinds of trouble shooting I had to sleep & check PWS later but wait!!! Oh No. My VWS suddenly stopped updating cause I was entering my PWS station ID & password in VWS. If I put in the data to send to weatherforyou it stops my VWS from working.
I hate to say but I'm beginning to think it's not worth the trouble I am having.
Already sending to CWOP, Weatherbug & wunderground. What can I really be missing? I think not much. Don't be offended people. This issue has racked my nerves so I just have to yell a bit. When I removed my PWS station ID & password from VWS it began updating immediately.
Maybe I can try posting all this to VWS page :?: :?: :?:
Can't hurt. Every other service I use works but this one so where does the real problem lie? That's what I must find out :???:
Sorry Joe T, I asked you to call me cause I knew this was much more then FAQs could fix. Needed a live voice but you just won't call :eek: :shock:
Even the good people on this forum can't figure this out & I can't blame them. It's your baby Joe. Ya gonna call me or do I just forget about weatherforyou/PWS. Been asking you to for nearly two weeks :-(
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2009, 07:07:28 PM »
Normally you need to enter that stuff in VWS in order to get it to work. Weird.
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2009, 07:20:27 PM »
Hey Doug,
Gonna try something different :idea:
I want to change my station id to the one I use on wunderground which is KMDJOPPA3
Can I do that or do I close the account :?:
Just was on PWS in the FAQs looking for Cancel Account
I could swear I saw it once but I can't find it now
Do you know how or how to change the station id :?:
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2009, 12:37:04 AM »
what firewall do you use?
maybe that is blocking it
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2009, 01:00:27 AM »
I just have the Windows firewall & the hardware firewall on my Netzero N router
Don't know if that explains the VWS disconnect when I enter my PWS station id & password though :?:
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2009, 04:28:26 AM »
try rebooting your router
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2009, 05:36:47 PM »
Sorry Joe T, I asked you to call me
I explained in my e-mails with you why troubleshooting problems such as this is not effective over the phone, since it often requires waiting for systems to update.

I knew this was much more then FAQs could fix.
I also explained the sum of all the knowledge we have is in the FAQs.  There's nothing more I could add on the phone.  I would have just gone through the FAQs with you.  And that is why I suggested you check out wxforum.net, as there may have been something which someone found that corrected this which had not been shared with us to add to the FAQs.

You may want to go through the FAQs again, as one of the items I brought up in one of the latest e-mails is in the FAQs, but you said you had not done it.  It is important everything in the FAQ on this issue be followed.  If you skip one step because you don't think it is relevant you may miss the one thing which fixes it for you.

This is a frequent problem with VWS, much more than any other software.  Have you talked to Ambient about this?  Although VWS is telling you it is sending data I've thoroughly checked the PWSweather.com server logs and do not see where your VWS software is even trying to communicate with the server.  So it is getting stopped somewhere.  Like I explained in my e-mail... if you're trying to make a phone call and, even though the buttons are going down, there are no tones going out it's not the fault of the person you're trying to call and they cannot correct it.  The problem is in VWS, a firewall or maybe even your Internet provider (they filter out many strange things these days).  Data is being received from thousands of stations every hour, so I don't see where the problem could be on the PWSweather.com end.

do I just forget about weatherforyou/PWS
While our goal is to serve every personal weather station who wishes to participate we cannot control issues outside of our own systems.  I am sorry it is not working for you.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2009, 05:39:31 PM by weatherforyou »
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2009, 11:48:38 PM »
I set the schedule in a variety of ways. Nothing. WxForum. Read it. No one could figure it out but they really tried
When I set the schedule & reentered the station ID it stopped VWS from updating. I had no choice but to remove the info from VWS & then….. instant update. You need to see the errors on you site. I don't get these errors from any other site except yours. See attached
I do not think the problem is on my end Joe & just so you know I have now read all the FAQs & there is no answer for this issue & so did the people on wxforum. Stop passing the buck on me, VWS, or my PC. Something is wrong & you need to help me fix it or I gotta forget weatherforyou/pws
If VWS is the problem as you say it is why does every other site VWS sends to work except yours? Why don't we close my account & I will create a new one & try this one more time. It would be best if you were on the phone while I do the new account so you can see first hand what I am doing & what could be a problem. Joe! I have worked with computer hardware & software for about 20 years & one thing has always been fact; When problems like this arise ya gotta get on the phone & talk to a live voice. When my users couldn't figure it out I didn't send the FAQs to them, I got on the phone & worked them through the issue & to date I have not failed a one of them so how about you do the same Joe? Could it be that an issue has come to light that's not in FAQs? Yeah, it may take time but isn't it worth it to solve the problem? I don't really care whose software is at fault. We gotta fix it. I searched FAQs but couldn't find how to change station ID or how to close acct. Enlighten me. FAQs, forums, all good but nothing can replace live support. I'm counting on you Joe so send me an email & let’s schedule a phone support session.
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2009, 01:06:07 AM »
If I might make a suggestion...

Have you thought about deinstalling VWS (after saving a backup of the entire VWS directory and sub-directories) and then reinstalling VWS from scratch? There might be something that has gotten corrupted that either has been overlooked or isn't visible to you. Reinstalling, while I know it's a pain, may just fix your problem.

Look at this way - no one else is having the problem you are experiencing. Joe has tried to give you all the help he can. The big thing that I see in reading the posts is that Joe doesn't see any attempts from your system to connect to the PWS server. He can't do anything for you if your system, for whatever reason, isn't even trying to connect to his.

Have you set up VWS to log all transactions, not just when an error occurs? That will tell you if VWS is even trying to make a connection. The file is log.txt and can be found in the C:\VWS\data directory (assuming you are using the default VWS installation directory).

I can hear you frustration but there's only so much Joe can do for you. He is a great guy. I've worked with him on some problems I had long ago and we worked them out on the forum. It's the best way so others who may have similar problems can see what gets them fixed.

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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2009, 01:17:28 AM »
I have sent you a sample string to try in a browser to see if any errors are produced when data is sent.  You'll need to try this in a browser on the computer running VWS.  This will either show an error in your browser or the sample data will show up on your page.  If the data shows up and you don't see any errors then the path to the PWSweather.com server is good which only leaves VWS.

You need to see the errors on you site.
As I noted, there is no indication anywhere on the server your software is making a connection to the server.  If it tried to make any kind of attempt to communicate it would show up in the logs, either the access logs or error logs.  The error you see on the web page is related to how Internet Explorer tries to display the page but is not connected to your data being successfully or unsuccessfully received.  You'll see the same error on every station's page.

I have now read all the FAQs & there is no answer for this issue
The answer for this issue is contained in the section of the FAQs titled "My data isn't being displayed on my PWSweather.com page even though it looks like I'm sending and its on other sites" which is the exact problem you're reporting.  This is also where the link I sent you originally would have taken you.

In the ten years of this program we have never had to provide phone support.  In the very, very few times we were asked the problem was ultimately resolved through e-mail or this forum.  As you can see I monitor e-mails throughout the day and that has been the most effective way to address issues.  Since I'm a one person operation, and also have another job which I'm on-call for 24 hours a day seven days a week, this works best.
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2009, 10:28:02 PM »
I feel it only just to credit Joe T with figuring out why I could not get VWS to send to PWS
Ready for this.............................I had a special character in my password & that is not allowed because it confuses the strings being sent #-o #-o :oops: :oops:
So there it is. All this fuss & the answer was right under my nose
I suspected it might be the station id or the password but said nothing except once on the forum about the station id
The reason I didn't think it mattered was cause I could log into PWS but I was not thinking about the science behind how the data was to be sent
Soooooooooooooooo :grin: Finally it works
Thank You Thank You Thank you Joe T :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
Thx everyone for all your help & sorry for taking up so much time
I'll try to read the FAQs better from now on
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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2009, 11:35:16 PM »
Glad to see you got it figured out and all is well again! Sometimes the problem is right in front of our eyes and we can't see it. Just takes some persistence to get through those knot-holes...

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Re: CANNOT GET DATA TO WEATHERFORYOU/PWS
« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2009, 12:08:52 AM »
Yes Don,

That one really drove me nuts but it was all worth it
One more site to send data to
Learned a bunch too

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