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Offline evileye

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« on: January 09, 2020, 01:25:11 PM »
Hello, does anyone know if these sensors (picture) are compatible with the display module?

And does anyone know, where I get the indoor temp/humidity/pressure 3-in-1 sensor… .

Thanks so much!
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2020, 01:52:30 PM »
All of those are compatible with your Froggit HP1000SE console, as long as you get it with 868 MHz to match the frequency of what you have now.

You can order most or all from Froggit. Whatever they don't carry you can order directly from Ecowitt. Just send Ecowitt an email for a quote and specify that you need 868 MHz.

The 3-in-1 temp/hum/pressure gateway console is available from Froggit as the DP1500:
https://www.froggit.de/product_info.php?info=p410_dp1500-wi-fi-weather-server-usb-dongle.html

Anything you order from Froggit will be 868 MHz, so it will all be compatible and you will not need to worry about specifying frequency.

The same thing from Ecowitt is the GW1000:
http://www.ecowitt.com/wifi_weather/80.html
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2020, 02:13:54 PM »
Thanks so much.

I have send an email to Ecowitt with an order inquiry to Germany.
I send an email to Froggit too, to get exactly the same snsors from them.

I am looking forward to their Response, but I'm not very confident.

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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2020, 05:15:34 AM »
As Galfert says the DP1500 is the same device as the GW1000 running on 868Mhz.
Just a thought, are you meaning the GW1000 or in fact are you after the WH31B which is the internal stick sensor that also includes the barometer sensor?
If that's the case I don't see that listed on Froggit's spare parts so you might have to get that from Ecowitt

You might be luckier than I have ever been with Froggit as they have never responded to my e-mails.
That said they are quick at shipping and I know many folks have no problem ordering from them anywhere in Europe.

Ecowitt will be slower to arrange and ship but are definitely solid once you have agreed the costs via e-mail.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2020, 05:21:14 AM by Mandrake »
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2020, 09:44:57 AM »
I got an answer from froggit:

We do not sell these kind of sensors you are looking for... . ](*,)

I do not have an answer from Ecowitt  :sad:

« Last Edit: January 10, 2020, 10:02:19 AM by evileye »

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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2020, 10:13:55 AM »
Froggit most certainly does carry two of the four items you referenced.

If you sent them that graphic it is possible that they got confused because it mentions Ecowitt part numbers and because of the color difference. Their customer service is probably not informed about the compatibility with Ecowitt, and even if they are they would probably not admit it or say the wrong thing on purpose to make you buy from their catalog on their website. This way they don't need to support other vendor's stuff.

The HP2551-C is the same as their HP1000SE Pro display console but theirs is silver and the Ecowitt is black. Just a cosmetic change just like the Froggit DP1500 is cream (off-white) and the Ecowitt GW1000 is blueish gray, but it is the same stuff.
https://www.froggit.de/product_info.php?info=p443_expansion--replacement--display-unit-hp1000se-pro.html

The Ecowitt WH31 is the same as the Froggit DP50 which they obviously sell with the DP1500.
https://www.froggit.de/?language=en&cat=c40_DP-Serie-dp-serie.html&cPath=40
https://www.froggit.de/product_info.php?info=p411_dp50-mehrkanal-thermo-hygrometer-funksensor.html

The only things I do not see on the Froggit website (of the four items you listed) are the WS68 anemometer and the WH40 rain gauge. But you can order those from Ecowitt (just ask for 868 MHz so that it is compatible with your Froggit consoles).
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2020, 11:15:25 AM »
yep but the OP wants the WH32b with the inbuilt barometer.
I cannot see that model on the Froggit spares list.
I think he might have to get that from Ecowitt, although it does stand to reason that Froggit must hold them if they are selling complete weather stations to go with the HP2551/HP1000 SE Pro console.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2020, 11:37:28 AM »
yep but the OP wants the WH32b with the inbuilt barometer.
Oh yep I see that. I missed that. So the OP has 5 sensors referenced and not 4 as I missed the WH32b (indoor/temp/barometer) being mentioned. I just read that post quickly and only considered the 4 in the graphic.

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I cannot see that model on the Froggit spares list.
I think he might have to get that from Ecowitt, although it does stand to reason that Froggit must hold them if they are selling complete weather stations to go with the HP2551/HP1000 SE Pro console.
Since the OP has purchased the Froggit HP1000SE then they will already be getting the WH32b with that kit. There is no need for another WH32b unless it is needed as a replacement. Neither Froggit nor Ecowitt list this part on their website. I think this is so that it is not ordered by mistake. If you need one of these then you probably already have it with your display. I you order a second display you don't need another WH32b...as all the displays will share the one WH32b.

If you are upgrading though form a WH2910C / WS-2902A / WH3000 (Ecowitt / Ambient / Froggit) display to an HP2551-C / WS-2000-C / HP1000SE display then you will need that WH32b. I know Ecowitt will sell it to you if you ask them to quote it and tell them why you need it.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2020, 03:22:49 PM »
But there is absolutely no reaction to my email... . No answers from Ecowitt.

I tried the contact-formular and wrote an direct email to them. Nothing!

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2020, 04:03:57 PM »
Well they don't work on the weekend. And in China the weekend has already started. So you won't hear back till Monday. Granted you probably sent the email before their Friday was over but you need to give them at least 1 business day to respond.

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Re: Ecowitt Sensors
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2020, 04:15:35 PM »
Ok, I will wait till next week… .

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Re: Ecowitt Sensors
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2020, 01:57:13 PM »
Great! They answered me! Today!
I´m so glad.

They can ship the stuff to Germany, but I have to wait till February, because they have their Spring Holidays first… :(

But: Does anybody knows which station the HP2552 bündle is? They offered me this set - I can not find it at their website:

HP2552 = WS68 + WH32(outdoor temp/humidity) + WH40 + HP2551_C console + Indoor temp/humidity/pressure sensor


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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2020, 04:26:02 PM »
You are only the 2nd person I've seen mention the HP2552. Yes this configuration is not on their website but it never has been a secret. Since you can mix and match consoles and sensors this configuration is one that many people have manually configured just buy asking for those parts separately. The fact that they call that configuration an HP2552 is really of little importance. You'll still have the same HP2551-C display console that you see in some other configurations (HP2551 and HP2553).

I would suggest you add a few things. The outdoor sensor needs a radiation shield so that you can properly place it in direct sun where it ought to go. Ecowitt has a radiation shield that is okay RS-00001. But some people have ventured to use either Davis or Ambient larger radiation shields or they make their own Stevenson screen.

The other suggestion is to add the GW1000 so that you can benefit from interfacing with 3rd party software. This means you'll have 2 consoles. The HP2551-C and the GW1000.  This also means that you could get a totally different named combination of parts that ends up with the same parts in the end. I'm referring to ordering the GW1002 complete kit and adding the HP2551-C display (with its indoor separate sensor that is required).

HP2552 = WS68 + WH32 + WH40 + HP2551-C + Indoor sensor
then include GW1000 gateway console.

...is the same as...

GW1002 = WS68 + WH32 + WH40
then include HP2551-C display + Indoor sensor

If you follow either of these custom configurations you end up with the same exact thing. So when you have one of these combined custom configurations, what do you call it? I don't know what the point would be in getting one configuration versus the other that are really the same in the end unless by ordering one way it gets you a bigger bundle discount than the other way...or maybe it works out to be exactly the same which is a likely scenario....or is it? What I'm getting at is that it would be good to know if it is cheaper to get the HP2551 and add the GW1000 or to get the GW1002 and add the HP2551-C display with indoor sensor.  I don't know the price of the HP2552 kit because it isn't on the website and I also don't know the price of the HP2551-C's indoor sensor (and what is this sensor called....I call it a WH32b because Ambient calls it that).

HP2552 ($_____) + GW1000 ($35.99) = $______
GW1002 ($199.99) + HP2551-C ($139.99) + indoor sensor ($____) = $______

I would venture to guess that the indoor sensor should not cost more than $15 (derived by increasing the price of the WH31 and WH32 just a bit...worst case scenario). Then this means that the GW1002 + HP2551-C display with indoor sensor would cost around $354.98. Therefore if the HP2552 kit costs any less than $318.99 then that would be a better deal. If the HP2552 costs more than $318.99 (unlikely) then starting with the GW1002 would be the better deal. And if the HP2552 costs exactly around $318.99 (also unlikely) then its is the same thing. Ecowitt should post all these missing things to get a good idea. But I think it is unlikely that the HP2552 costs as much as $318.99 because that is about the same price as the HP2553 $319.99 which has the more expensive sonic anemometer. The WS80 sonic anemometer costs $50 more than the WS68 standard anemometer. Therefore the I suspect that the HP2552 is less but not as low as the HP2551 ($279.99) because that uses the all-in-one sensor array. So lets split the difference and suppose the HP2552 is then $299.99. Conclusion is that getting the HP2552 and then adding the GW1000 is the better way to go and would save around $20 than the alternate configuration.

In the end when anyone refers to any of these stations and possible configurations if they need help with something and it pertains to actions or functions regarding the HP2551-C they should not be searching for or discussing the HP2552. It is best then to just refer to it as what the console is the HP2551. Likewise if you get the GW1002 and then you need to discuss actions or functions regarding the GW1000 then you refer to it as the GW1000 and not GW1002. If it pertains to an individual sensor then you refer to that sensor by part name also and include which console you are concerned with and that sensor.

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Re: Ecowitt Sensors
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2020, 11:26:35 AM »
Hey Galfert,

Thanks so much for your detailed answer.
Yes, the HP2552-Set is the same as the single sensors. The Price for the whole bundle is 319USD, included shippment to Germany!

Can you tell me, which software I can use with the GW1000 (Froggit sell it as DP1500 Weather Server)… . Only the WS-View Software?

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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2020, 11:53:51 AM »
Can you tell me, which software I can use with the GW1000 (Froggit sell it as DP1500 Weather Server)… . Only the WS-View Software?

The GW1000 is compatible with the following software:

  • WS Veiw app - Fine Offset's own mobile app used to configure, manage, and view live data. Available for Android or iOS.
  • Ecowitt PC Software - They have some very basic PC software for joining the GW1000 onto your WiFi network...unnecessary if you use the better WS View app. This is mostly for those people without a smartphone or other mobile device so that they can get their console online. Don't waste time with this. Only mentioning it for completeness.
  • Cumulus MX
  • Meteobridge - requires either building your own Meteobridge device or buying a pre-built Meteobridge device
  • Weather-Display
  • WeeWx - (currently only using Interceptor driver but work is being done to support local network GW1000 API with a new driver that isn't out yet)
  • GW1000live - a mobile app by Brian, Weather-Display developer
  • Other options - Since the GW1000 supports a "Customized" server push configuration settings, you can run your own code or even find some other open source projects that have done this. There are a small few of these.

* A neat interesting fact is that you can run multiple instances or any mix of any of these solutions simultaneously with just one GW1000.
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2020, 12:19:51 PM »
Wow, that is a lot.

But I can use it in combination to the HP2551-C Display?

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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2020, 12:23:57 PM »
yes the gw1000 can be used in conjunction with the HP2551 display.
Remember these are just receivers of your sensor data
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2020, 12:25:12 PM »
Wow, that is a lot.

But I can use it in combination to the HP2551-C Display?

Of course. Just realize that the HP2551-C is an independent console that receives data directly from the sensors...just as the GW1000 does. The sensors send out a one-way radio broadcast like a mini radio station. The sensors have no idea what nor how many consoles are picking up their signal. Likewise the consoles have no idea about other consoles that are also picking up the same sensor set. It pretty much is just like a radio station (the sensors) and the listeners (in a car, home, or anywhere) that are tuning in to that station and listening. Therefore you can have as many displays as you want, as long as they are all within range of the sensors.

What this means though is that you have to individually calibrate each console. Also even though you'll have just one outdoor temperature, and one wind and one rain sensor...you will have two barometers...(one for each console). Therefore each console's barometer must be individually calibrated. Well such is the case for the HP2551-C and the GW1000. If you get a second HP2551-C then you don't need a second indoor sensor as they can both share the same indoor sensor.
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Re: Ecowitt Sensors
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2020, 08:55:40 AM »
Great.

I´ve done my order at Ecowitt. I have to say, that they have an friendly support that is answering really fast untill 24 Hours.
But now they will have theyre spring Festival first, so I have to to wait nearly 3 weeks before they can send my order… .
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« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2020, 04:54:29 PM »
For my part, a short presentation of the soil moisture sensor WH51. This maybe is not typical meteorological parameter, but the sensor is a normal element of the sensor array by Ecowitt.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkttveDzkKM[/youtube]

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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2020, 02:36:49 PM »
Great.

I´ve done my order at Ecowitt. I have to say, that they have an friendly support that is answering really fast untill 24 Hours.
But now they will have theyre spring Festival first, so I have to to wait nearly 3 weeks before they can send my order… .

So i quess you recieved your order by now?
What combination did you get, how much was ist and what taxes did you have to pay?

Thanks in advance! [tup]

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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2020, 11:19:43 AM »
Hi
New to the forum. Heres my story on ordering from ecowitt. Order was placed 10 jan 2020 and was due to ship 17th January but was delayed until 20th february as it got caught up in the Chinese new year holidays. It was then further delayed due to COVID-19 and shipped 4th March, Delivered 6th March  :grin: Communication was good and always prompt.
I ordered as follows
HP2551_C console comes with internal sensor temp / humidity and pressure (seperate unit)
WS68 - WIFI Weather Sensor Series -- Wireless Solar Powered Anemometer with Light & UV Sensor
WH40 - WIFI Weather Sensor Series -- Rain Gauge Sensor
WH32 - WIFI Weather Sensor Series -- Outdoor Temperature and Humidity Sensor
1X BS0002 - bird spikes for rain gauge
1X RS00001 - Solar Radiation Shield
1X GW1000 - wireless gateway

Total cost including shipping was $373, at the time (US dollar flucuates) was £294. As I waited so long and accepted a silver shell as opposed to black on the console I got the shipping cost refunded so in total including customs duty it cost me £280. Great customer service. If you keep an eye on ecowitts website prices will vary and quite often there are discounts on. All installed with no issues and seems to be working well. I send my data to a raspberry PI running cumulus which is uploaded to a personal website and also to ecowitt.net site.

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Re: Ecowitt Sensors
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2020, 02:24:39 AM »
Sorry

On the froggit website

You can link me, the WH31 and the Wh32?

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« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2020, 03:04:24 AM »
Sorry

On the froggit website

You can link me, the WH31 and the Wh32?

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Maybe DL5000 on froggit is the Wh32 of ecowitt?

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Re: Ecowitt Sensors
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2020, 03:26:20 AM »
Sorry
On the froggit website
You can link me, the WH31 and the Wh32?
THANSK
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Ecowitt WH31 multichannel TH sensor => http://www.ecowitt.com/wifi_weather/79.html
you can connect up to 8 depending on the weather-station/console/weather-server
same as
Froggit DP50 Multi-Channel Thermo-Hygrometer Wireless Sensor
https://www.froggit.de/product_info.php?language=en&info=p411_dp50-mehrkanal-thermo-hygrometer-funksensor.html

Ecowitt WH32  single channel TH sensor  => http://www.ecowitt.com/wifi_weather/94.html
You can only connect one to a station.
I can not find this one on the Froggit website.

Sent them an email if they sell it,

Wim

 

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