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Title: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: alanb on July 15, 2019, 07:48:29 PM
I was trying to find an appropriate thread to post this in, but nothing seemed to fit quite right, so forgive me if starting a new thread is a "no-no". I am a weather hobbyist at best, definitely not an expert or even an enthusiast.

My main question relates to all the complaints and predictions of the pending demise of Weather Underground. I have been participating in this forum for a couple of years, but don't yet own a weather station. I have been waiting for the Acurite Atlas to be released before I decide what to buy. I want something that is reliable, accurate, and more or less "plug and play" that can be publicly  accessed on the internet by me and my neighbors without me having to put in a server, establish and maintain my own website, install a Raspberry PI or jump through a bunch of hoops to configure and do the daily management of the system.

When I first started checking into this, it seemed like a Ambient or Acurite product with easy connection to WU was a perfect solution. But now it seems like the "experts" on this site are discounting WU as a legitimate long term option. The other options sound like they are way more effort than I am willing to invest using the consumer grade products like Ambient and Acurite.

So experts, what do you think? With the predicted downfall of WU, should a weather hobbyist like me just stay out of it? I do monitor 2 or 3 nearby stations on WU within a couple of miles of me. Unfortunately, a neighbor 2000 feet away from me who had a very reliable Ambient 2902 recently moved, so I am now missing having access to that close by station. I don't mind spending the money for a decent station, but I don't want to spend my life managing it.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: Theo on July 15, 2019, 07:55:41 PM
The only value I get out of Weather Underground is I can capture the packets from my AcuRite access so I can still run WeeWx.  I love hyper localized weather and give 0 craps about WU.  I don’t understand why people get so whipped up about a free service working poorly. 

I had an AcuRite 5n1 and really loved it and got bit by the “hey, we are discontinuing that device you just bought 6 months ago” debacle, so I jumped to a WS-2000.  Frankly, I never could get the WS-2000 to give me my weather information in the way that I wanted, so I installed weewx and SDR and used Pat O’Brian’s awesome Belchertown skin, but I had constant trouble with the array dropping out and it just really did not do what I wanted, so I went back to the Atlas and I am liking it.  The only downside is I now love having all of my extra weather data in weewx, and AcuRite does not well support it and I really don’t want to use AcuParse.

TL:DR:

Weather hobbiests love seeing the weather in their back yard.  It is a cool and interesting hobby and I highly recommend getting your own weather station, it is sort of addicting.  Forget about WU, they mostly suck and have for the past several years.  It is .001% of my weather hobbies experience.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: txweather.org on July 15, 2019, 07:57:24 PM
For get about WU, Do not let WU be your deciding factor. There is many ways to get your data and that are better than WU.
I say go for it!
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: ValentineWeather on July 15, 2019, 08:00:23 PM
WU came around some 15 years after my first weather station. I've always done it for my own interest. Being able to share was just icing on the cake.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: chief-david on July 15, 2019, 08:07:26 PM
I now have two stations reporting to WU.  \:D/.

It is not about WU-but the love of weather data and graphs. I love sharing data with the neighborhood. I love the graphs. I use it as an educational tool at school.

Weather is a conversation starter.

I have given up caring about what happens to/at/with WU. I like the fronts map and radar with advisories and tracks. But beyond that. I am indifferent.

Both stations have a website that I can access and push to the people that want to see it.
There is more to this hobby than WU.

and 3 inches of rain at home in the last 3 hours.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: CW2274 on July 15, 2019, 08:08:50 PM
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With the predicted downfall of WU, should a weather hobbyist like me just stay out of it? I do monitor 2 or 3 nearby stations on WU
Buying a PWS just so you can post your data online to me is completely not why you should buy a PWS. I bought mine for my own satisfaction and knowledge of knowing what's going on outside my own door. I owned my VP2 for ~4 years before I decided to post my data. If that came to a screeching halt for whatever reason, so be it, I still have my PWS, for me.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: alanb on July 15, 2019, 09:13:39 PM
Thanks so much for the quick responses to my question. They are very helpful, and I think I need to expand/clarify a bit. I have some simple devices to check the weather in my back yard when I am home … an analog rain gauge, indoor/outdoor digital thermometer/hygrometer (although the hygrometer no longer works so I need to replace it), wind vane, an ancient analog barometer that still sort of works. So I can check the weather in my back yard (sort of anyway) when I am home and can walk out in the back yard. My main motivation for wanting a weather station, other that just replacing my old outdated devices, is to be able to check the weather in my back yard when I am not at home, and also to share it with distant relatives, friends and close by neighbors. Weather is a great conversation catalyst, and it is fun when others can check on your weather conditions.

So for me, being able to access my back yard weather from afar is the whole motivation for having a weather station. Without that, I can just replace my old simple devices with newer more reliable ones. That is why Weather Underground or something comparable is important to me. I am guessing I am not alone, and if WU is no longer viable, I think it will have a terrible impact on Ambient, Acurite … probably even Davis.

But, again thanks for the responses to my question … it is indeed helpful and gives me pause about investing in a weather station. I look forward to more comments.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: galfert on July 15, 2019, 09:22:40 PM
I have been waiting for the Acurite Atlas to be released before I decide what to buy.

You mean you've been waiting for the Atlas Elite?... because the Atlas is out.

WU is but one of several online sites. Out of the box myAcurite and WU is all that Acurite gives you. If you don't want to deal with other software to capture the data like WeeWx or Acuparse then you could give Ambient a try. Ambient gives you Ambientweather.net, WU, WeatherCloud, and PWSweather without anything extra required. But you can add an Ecowitt GW1000 (you gain Ecowitt.net and Met WOW) and a Meteobridge and then you have practically all the other options easy.... CWOP, AWEKAS, Windy, Windguru....and more. You didn't mention Davis so perhaps that means it's not within your price range. With Davis you can easily upload to anywhere I mentioned easily with even more options on devices to send data.

But even if you decided you want an Acurite Atlas and you need help setting up and maintaining a Pi to do more, well you've got this great community to help.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: Theo on July 15, 2019, 09:25:32 PM
AcuRite allows you to share your weather with friends (they need a myacurite account), but it works.  For the same price point (or less) you can get as full WS-2000 from ambient weather and have fully shareable weather without worry and you can add support for a bunch of different ways to share your weather. 

Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: alanb on July 15, 2019, 09:36:18 PM
I have been waiting for the Acurite Atlas to be released before I decide what to buy.

You mean you've been waiting for the Atlas Elite?... because the Atlas is out.
Yes … Atlas Elite.  Thanks for keeping me honest. The Atlas has looked pretty good to me as well, but would probably go with the Ambient 2000 as I don't think the Atlas has enough advantages for the extra cost over the Ambient. I don't have anything to base it on other than what I have read in this forum, but I am not a fan of the Acurite Access … hoping the self contained Elite will measure up to the original hype that was generated when it was first announced two (or is it three?) years ago.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: Theo on July 15, 2019, 10:00:32 PM
I have been waiting for the Acurite Atlas to be released before I decide what to buy.

You mean you've been waiting for the Atlas Elite?... because the Atlas is out.
Yes … Atlas Elite.  Thanks for keeping me honest. The Atlas has looked pretty good to me as well, but would probably go with the Ambient 2000 as I don't think the Atlas has enough advantages for the extra cost over the Ambient. I don't have anything to base it on other than what I have read in this forum, but I am not a fan of the Acurite Access … hoping the self contained Elite will measure up to the original hype that was generated when it was first announced two (or is it three?) years ago.

I just got my Atlas this week and I like it.  It was super easy to set up, but I too have an issue with the Access.  The old smart hub was super reliable, we will see how this goes.  I have my WS-2000 still up, so I can compare the two.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: WSWeather on July 15, 2019, 10:27:29 PM
My first weather station was/is an Ambient WS-2080, which is probably considered a toy by most of this group.  It still works after being outside for seven years and even though it has been discontinued for awhile they still support it.  I use Cumulus, running on a cheap ($110) Windows netbook which reports to WU, PWS Weather and others as well as to a website generated and uploaded by Cumulus.  WU was the easiest and best option for online viewing (mostly because of all of the data from PWSs in the area) but alas those days are long over.

I use mine to monitor distant property as well as my home (having indoor temp and humidity is crucial for remote-control property management) and really don't rely on WU for anything anymore.

You'll find that there is a lot more to this hobby than WU.  Go ahead and do it. :)
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: noctilucent on July 16, 2019, 01:07:10 AM
It's actually pretty dire at the moment. I'm using Meteohub to read data from my Davis which, unless you buy their extremely expensive hardware seems to be more or less abandonware, you need to scour eBay for hardware ancient enough to be able to run it, feeding to WU, which is, well see other threads here. I'd jump ship in a moment, if there was anything viable to jump to.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: josecmorales on July 16, 2019, 08:06:14 AM
For get about WU, Do not let WU be your deciding factor. There is many ways to get your data and that are better than WU.
I say go for it!

So true!
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: noctilucent on July 16, 2019, 08:21:15 AM
I've been looking at WeeWX to drive my setup (see my previous post) since there's drivers for the Meteostick.  Problem with that is that you need to host things yourself, one benefit of WU is that it's being hosted on someone else's servers.  Yeah, I know I can put it on AWS or something, but it is awfully convenient to just point your client at WU and have them do the rest.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: Jasiu on July 16, 2019, 10:18:39 AM
So for me, being able to access my back yard weather from afar is the whole motivation for having a weather station. Without that, I can just replace my old simple devices with newer more reliable ones. That is why Weather Underground or something comparable is important to me. I am guessing I am not alone, and if WU is no longer viable, I think it will have a terrible impact on Ambient, Acurite … probably even Davis.

Besides WU (which I never look at), I post my data to pwsweather.com and Ambient. I never look at those sites either.  Instead, my weather nerdness has merged with my coding nerdness and I've just made (and continue to make) my website give me the information that I want (or quickly link to other sites that have it).

If you want a time-consuming hobby and have any sort of coding experience (or want to learn), look at the various templates discussed on this site. It's a great way to fine-tune what you are looking for and you lessen your dependence on other organizations.

Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: Bushman on July 16, 2019, 11:34:10 AM
It's actually pretty dire at the moment. I'm using Meteohub to read data from my Davis which, unless you buy their extremely expensive hardware seems to be more or less abandonware, you need to scour eBay for hardware ancient enough to be able to run it, feeding to WU, which is, well see other threads here. I'd jump ship in a moment, if there was anything viable to jump to.

Not sure I understand this.  Meteohub feeds a lot of weather services so what hardware from Davis are you missing?  If it is Meteohub, then swap your license to Meteobridge and use Wifi logger (a fraction of Davis logger cost).  Et cetera...
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: konz on July 16, 2019, 07:59:53 PM
I use weeWX and think it's great.  I currently upload to PWSWeather (contributor to AerisWeather.com, a direct competitor to WU), Citizen Weather Observer Program (CWOP), WeatherCloud (another competitor), and AWEKAS [Automatic WEather map (german: KArten) System] weather out of the box.  And, for now, I upload to WeatherUnderground.  There's one or two other services but I don't use them.

I also purchased my own domain to host my uploaded weeWX pages and wxcam - updated every 3-5 minutes.  It's a little more difficult to get user traffic, but quite fulfilling to build your own site.

My eventual goal is to get near real-time updates to my online mySQL database, but that's going to take dedicated time; I'll save that for retirement.

I can enable or disable my upload by changing the enabled tag from true to false and restarting the service.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: noctilucent on July 16, 2019, 11:40:41 PM
Not sure I understand this.  Meteohub feeds a lot of weather services so what hardware from Davis are you missing?  If it is Meteohub, then swap your license to Meteobridge and use Wifi logger (a fraction of Davis logger cost).  Et cetera...
You can't swap a Meteohub license, or even a Meteobridge one (" license transfer from standard Meteobridges is not planned"), you need to buy the Meteobridge hardware, which is damn expensive (I mean the Pro, not the reflashed TP-Link mini-router/AP, which in any case requires the Davis console to work).  I'm currently running a Meteostick with hacked Meteohub software on obsolete hardware with no upgrade path, thus the plan to go to WeeWX, which supports the Meteostick, and also runs on current hardware.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: Bushman on July 17, 2019, 12:24:07 AM
MB Pro does not require a console  - that is the Nano. 
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: noctilucent on July 17, 2019, 12:26:57 AM
MB Pro does not require a console  - that is the Nano.

Yes, that's exactly what I said.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: Bushman on July 17, 2019, 12:42:37 AM
So exactly what is your complaint?
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: Mattk on July 17, 2019, 03:21:12 AM
Gee why would anybody be justifying buying or not buying a weather station just because WU has gone to crap? Move on, WU is not the only option and obviously not the best option either.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: antstrafer on July 17, 2019, 11:05:15 AM
Gee why would anybody be justifying buying or not buying a weather station just because WU has gone to crap? Move on, WU is not the only option and obviously not the best option either.

OK, name a free service that has rapid fire.   My camera needs replacing:NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.  My Davis pro2 is leaking, has corrosion, fan is shot.  Whole unit need replacing:THAT'S
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.   The best I can get is 1 minute updates with a pay service.  I think I will point one of my security cameras at my Davis console and call it quits.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: txweather.org on July 17, 2019, 11:09:06 AM
Not sure I understand this.  Meteohub feeds a lot of weather services so what hardware from Davis are you missing?  If it is Meteohub, then swap your license to Meteobridge and use Wifi logger (a fraction of Davis logger cost).  Et cetera...
I'm currently running a Meteostick with hacked Meteohub software on obsolete hardware with no upgrade path, thus the plan to go to WeeWX, which supports the Meteostick, and also runs on current hardware.

Is this by choice? Meteohub runs on any of the Pi versions. (Not tested on Pi4)
So you do not need hacks nor obsolete hardware to run Meteohub. Another note is that Boris is still sending updates out for Meteohub so it still under support.
Annnnnnd You can also run Meteohub on a VM :)

Back to the main subject. To all please keep it civil with our new comers and lets not derail too much from the main subject :)

Thank you all!
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: txweather.org on July 17, 2019, 11:13:18 AM
Gee why would anybody be justifying buying or not buying a weather station just because WU has gone to crap? Move on, WU is not the only option and obviously not the best option either.

OK, name a free service that has rapid fire.   My camera needs replacing:NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.  My Davis pro2 is leaking, has corrosion, fan is shot.  Whole unit need replacing:THAT'S
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.   The best I can get is 1 minute updates with a pay service.  I think I will point on of my security cameras at my Davis console and call it quits.

Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D

Seriously, Unless you are after wind data rapid fire is kinda useless.
Again, WU nor any other service should be a deciding factor for anybody to get a weather station. This goes with most of everything on the Internet... They get bought out or the project dies and you have a brick. Get a weather system that is open to anything and everything. Good luck!
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: antstrafer on July 17, 2019, 12:58:59 PM



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D

Seriously, Unless you are after wind data rapid fire is kinda useless.
Again, WU nor any other service should be a deciding factor for anybody to get a weather station. This goes with most of everything on the Internet... They get bought out or the project dies and you have a brick. Get a weather system that is open to anything and everything. Good luck!


Yes I am after wind data.  Average winds are 25 MPH with gusts much higher. When wind reaches a certain speed, we have to move cars inside to prevent sand blast damage.  We are in a very windy area, over 500 wind generator within 20 mile radius of us.  I suppose if instructions for using a template were not as complicated as the space station operators manual I would love to do that.   
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: txweather.org on July 17, 2019, 01:29:28 PM



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D

Seriously, Unless you are after wind data rapid fire is kinda useless.
Again, WU nor any other service should be a deciding factor for anybody to get a weather station. This goes with most of everything on the Internet... They get bought out or the project dies and you have a brick. Get a weather system that is open to anything and everything. Good luck!
I suppose if instructions for using a template were not as complicated as the space station operators manual I would love to do that.   

The Weather34 Dashboard is one of the easiest template to install. I would be more than glad to help :)
You can see mine here: https://dashboard.txweather.org/
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: Bushman on July 17, 2019, 01:36:52 PM
Gee why would anybody be justifying buying or not buying a weather station just because WU has gone to crap? Move on, WU is not the only option and obviously not the best option either.

OK, name a free service that has rapid fire.   My camera needs replacing:NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.  My Davis pro2 is leaking, has corrosion, fan is shot.  Whole unit need replacing:THAT'S
NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.   The best I can get is 1 minute updates with a pay service.  I think I will point one of my security cameras at my Davis console and call it quits.

My Meteobridge updates every 15 seconds.  I use the webspace from my ISP, but it will work with any free webspace.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: antstrafer on July 17, 2019, 04:03:05 PM



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D




The Weather34 Dashboard is one of the easiest template to install. I would be more than glad to help :)
You can see mine here: https://dashboard.txweather.org/

weather34 looks like it has about everything you need.  how does it work?  download template and then what.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: txweather.org on July 17, 2019, 04:10:02 PM



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D




The Weather34 Dashboard is one of the easiest template to install. I would be more than glad to help :)
You can see mine here: https://dashboard.txweather.org/

weather34 looks like it has about everything you need.  how does it work?  download template and then what.

What application you use for data logging?
Weather34 has several official and unofficial templates that work with different data logging applications.

In no specific order WD34 works with:

Weather Display
Meteobridge
Meteohub
Cumulus
Weatherlink
WeeWX
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: txweather.org on July 17, 2019, 04:10:23 PM



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D




The Weather34 Dashboard is one of the easiest template to install. I would be more than glad to help :)
You can see mine here: https://dashboard.txweather.org/

weather34 looks like it has about everything you need.  how does it work?  download template and then what.

What application you use for data logging?
Weather34 has several official and unofficial templates that work with different data logging applications.

In no specific order WD34 works with:

Weather Display
Meteobridge
Meteohub
Cumulus
Weatherlink
WeeWX

and some others...
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: galfert on July 17, 2019, 04:16:22 PM
Looks like antstrafer is using a Meteobridge based on CWOP and forum signature.

Version 3.9 though! Just FYI in case of any missing updates causing issues.
https://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/F5142
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: txweather.org on July 17, 2019, 04:17:36 PM
Looks like antstrafer is using a Meteobridge based on CWOP and forum signature.

https://weather.gladstonefamily.net/site/F5142


Wooha!  Even easier. Thanks galfert!

@antstrafer, PM me and I can help you get going!
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: Mattk on July 17, 2019, 04:27:36 PM
Many so called free sites with what ever attracts or has attracted users will all eventually in the not too distant future (already fairly obvious) be going down or following each other down the subscription path or simply close up shop as the higher end so called fast updates require a lot more infrastructure and cost to provide than most users require or are prepared to pay for. This is not only a WU issue.

Users are going to have to be prepared to pay for the level of service they want or unable to provide their own needs if they expect a third party to provide it, this is simply the way of the world. This expectation re previous provider models is fast coming to an end so justifying any PWS purchase based on what WU are or is doing is really not a decision maker. There are lots of other options and typically much better options as noted above.

The more one expects the more one will typically pay for it if requiring a third party server providor.   
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: davidmc36 on July 17, 2019, 05:29:24 PM
WU came around some 15 years after my first weather station. I've always done it for my own interest. Being able to share was just icing on the cake.
My first station did not have internet ability at all. I did it because I want to know what it is like right where I am before I go outside . Among other interests.
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: OldAlaskaGuy on July 17, 2019, 08:49:56 PM
I keep it simple. I have a AW-1401-IP, no weather cam. It reports to WU and Ambient weather. Data is good. Location is good and forecast page is correct. I have occasional issues but if I wait for a while everything comes together. The wireless bridge plugs directly into the router so I do not need to keep the computer on. The station is accessible with my Android phone. Others are reporting issues such as incorrect station location or can't access by smart phone or can't connect to their router. I guess that I am lucky.
https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KCAGRASS150
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: txweather.org on July 17, 2019, 09:56:21 PM
I keep it simple. I have a AW-1401-IP, no weather cam. It reports to WU and Ambient weather. Data is good. Location is goon and forecast page is correct. I have occasional issues but if I wait for a while everything comes together. The wireless bridge plugs directly into the router so I do not need to keep the computer on. The station is accessible with my Android phone. Others are reporting issues such as incorrect station location or can't access by smart phone or can't connect to their router. I guess that I am lucky.
https://www.wunderground.com/dashboard/pws/KCAGRASS150

I dont think the issues that "others" have are due to complexity.... just like I dont think that yours is "working" due to simplicity ;) I think that been "lucky" is more or less "correct" ;)
At the end of the day... The less you care for your data the less you will know. Simple sometimes is the poison.... just like complexity can be the worst of both worlds... lol :)
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: Mattk on July 17, 2019, 10:15:49 PM
This doesn't only apply to PWS but anything related to data, the data has the value, what produces that data is basically a black box and something that can be easily replaced
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: txweather.org on July 17, 2019, 10:21:38 PM
This doesn't only apply to PWS but anything related to data, the data has the value, what produces that data is basically a black box and something that can be easily replaced

This is true 100%
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: weather34 on July 18, 2019, 03:27:37 AM



Your own dashboard :)
You can install your own dashboard template and let it update as fast as your hearts content :D




The Weather34 Dashboard is one of the easiest template to install. I would be more than glad to help :)
You can see mine here: https://dashboard.txweather.org/

weather34 looks like it has about everything you need.  how does it work?  download template and then what.

What application you use for data logging?
Weather34 has several official and unofficial templates that work with different data logging applications.

In no specific order WD34 works with:

Weather Display
Meteobridge
Meteohub
Cumulus
Weatherlink
WeeWX

and some others...

Good morning I'll try and clear up some confusion reference to the template you listed above .These are version published by Wim and are not weather34 based design or code.the difference is really apparent in the code in those versions, they are written by Wim and does not follow or have any similarity in the code structure.The appearance is similar but when you look closer you will see some differences in particular graphic quality presentation. It is hoped in the near future Wim will rename the template and remove the references to weather34 and name it something different to clearly differentiate between the two. Increased volume of email support appeared recently and due to these versions being labelled with 34 I ended up going round in circles chasing urls and non native english translated emails only to discover these share no similarity in code structure.

Weather34 based designs support meteobridge, cumulus, weewx only

more info here https://weather34.com/homeweatherstation/

There is no weather34 design for weather display, wifilogger, meteohub, weatherlink etc .

In advance I sincerely apologise for any confusion caused the original intention was to have experienced individuals with specific knowledge of each hardware or software to offer support specific to each software, hardware. Often the support needs to be at software, hardware level to offer a good chance to resolve many issues or add enhancements, new features .

Further information about those can be found here https://weather34.com/homeweatherstation/

you will notice a Beta but that is primarily going to be for meteobridge NANOSD/Pro/Davis hardware and it does not use or have any requirement for Mysql ,the meteobridge NANOSD does all the work and when setup it is self sufficient without any regular maintenance.* Possibility in the near or far future this revised version will be included in the NANOSD but it is unconfirmed at present but Boris is toying with the idea to replace current version built into NANOSD..
https://weather34.com/homeweatherstation/beta-meteobridge.html

The official meteobridge version maintained by William aka Lightmaster and that is fully compatible with popular meteobridge hub,NANO(SD),Pro hardware. https://github.com/lightmaster/Meteobridge-Weather34-Template
I encourage you to participate with him as he has a good knowledge of meteobridge and other stuff particularly like how he is testing some new lightning hardware and has implemented that https://baxleyweather.com/pws/index.php

so I hope it clears up some confusion and Im sure in the future it will become apparent and easy to distinguish .

as for weather underground I dont know why any one bothers , i get the part its free , its convenient but big but its not reliable and has not been for many years, I stopped sending data in November 2017 and focused on creating a reliable solution albeit it comes at a cost but that saying "you get what you pay for" and when its free you soon find the limitations .

this forum itself offers a wide array of templates, information, knowledge on all aspects of displaying your data to suit your personal needs be it basic or a vast array of data. Think its time to stop the repetitive week in week out complaints of wunderground services and focus on something that you can really participate in..

edit:typo as usual :-)

brian...
Title: Re: With all the WU complaints, why buy a weather station?
Post by: txweather.org on July 18, 2019, 12:18:53 PM
Brian,

Thanks for the clarification. Thats why I stated "unofficial" I guess that was not enough. Thanks again.